Was it something I said?

[coffeebean]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

[RICH1]

Not sure, but Apologizing here may only start a thread about Depression in The Villages!
Keep voicing your opinion, it opens closed minds..

[Laker14]

If you did not get an explanation, or acknowledgement of some transgression from a moderator, then it likely wasn't anything YOU said, but, more likely, just the general direction that the thread had taken.
It happens a lot.
For example, the thread asking for witnesses to an accident turned into a discussion of changing traffic laws, and changing requirements for how aging people should be licensed.
After a while the mods just close such threads down because the conversation has lost its way from the original subject.

Your posts probably didn't violate any rules of the forum, but just happened to be the last one on a wayward tack.

[coffeebean]

Thanks to both of you for commenting. I read the entire thread just this morning and the next thing I knew, right after I made that last comment, the thread was closed. I still think it might have been what I said. :(

[John Mayes]

Thanks to both of you for commenting. I read the entire thread just this morning and the next thing I knew, right after I made that last comment, the thread was closed. I still think it might have been what I said. :(

I doubt it. More than likely, the thread had run its course.

[ThirdOfFive]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.
Was there a comment by the thought police at the end of the thread as to why the thread was being taken down? They'll usually do that. Unless you get a specific message it probably wasn't anything you posted. Look at the very top of this page just under the green topic headings. You should see something like "private messages; unread __, total __. If the number in the "unread" line has anything but a zero in it it means you have a message.

[dewilson58]

Thanks to both of you for commenting. I read the entire thread just this morning and the next thing I knew, right after I made that last comment, the thread was closed. I still think it might have been what I said. :(

It was.
Not the first time.
Not the last time.
:posting:

:mornincoffee:

[Caymus]

Thanks to both of you for commenting. I read the entire thread just this morning and the next thing I knew, right after I made that last comment, the thread was closed. I still think it might have been what I said. :(

Maybe you made the comment at "shift" change.

[Kenswing]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

Of course it was something you said. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[nick demis]

Never say you're sorry for doing something that you believe is not wrong. Someone somewhere will always find a reason to be offended.

[Two Bills]

Well. At least you get to have the last word.
Something I have never achieved with my wife! :ohdear:

[PugMom]

Thanks to both of you for commenting. I read the entire thread just this morning and the next thing I knew, right after I made that last comment, the thread was closed. I still think it might have been what I said. :(

i think it was something I said, not you :cryin2:

[Boomer]

You made me look. Here’s what could have happened……

I assume you mean the thread about the homeless in TV.

The topic of the homeless is impossible for a group to discuss without some bringing their personal, religious beliefs into the conversation.

Religion has been in 2 or 3 TOTV threads lately and those threads have moved along OK — mostly— although I could see they would eventually hit thin ice.

Your last post in that thread took a direct hit on one of the posters who expressed Christianity as the basis for his personal response to the topic — as had others.

You have been making your thoughts on religion clear — and that is your prerogative. But I think that last post of yours came off like, “ Shut the hell up” — even though you did not word it like that, you quoted a poster who maybe got on your last nerve……..

Posting in disagreement can be like walking a tightrope, trying to address the opinion without taking a direct hit on the poster.

Also, the moderator might have grown weary of monitoring what could have turned into an all out religious war and you just happened to fire the last shot in a battle.

Boomer

[manaboutown]

It seems the thread was closed but not "disappeared" which is a good thing.

In the past threads have been both closed and disappeared after my posts several times.

My thought is the topic had been thoroughly discussed, had run its course, and the discussion was running on ad nauseam.

[VApeople]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

No need to apologize, Coffeebean.

Maybe we can form a club for people who write posts that irritate others.

[dewilson58]

Maybe we can form a club for people who write posts that irritate others.

Big Club.

[Caymus]

No need to apologize, Coffeebean.

Maybe we can form a club for people who write posts that irritate others.

Maybe a club for people that are easily irritated.

[Michael G.]

Maybe a club for people that are easily irritated.

And during happy hour............:thumbup:

[bsloan1960]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.
I doubt it was something you said. There are people here who are vicious and get a thrill out of attacking others; calling questions stupid, answering by writing "Duh", etc. When you spot one of these people and scan their profile for past answers you can see a high percentage of insulting, mean spirited bullying. These people are allowed to insult others every day even though the Forum rules claim action will be taken. I said all that to say this- it seems NOTHING you can say here will get you in trouble. I'll await the insults to my remarks.

[Papa_lecki]

Most threads go off the rails after about 20 or 25 responses.

[dewilson58]

I said all that to say this- it seems NOTHING you can say here will get you in trouble. I'll await the insults to my remarks.

Almost a cross-thread violation.


:pepper2:

[DAVES]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

I'm NOT brown nosing. I do not know who the moderator is. I suspect since it is 24 hours a day 7 days a week there is more than one. Read any of the threads. Over time they all seem to turn wine into vinegar.

Political-
It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep political mass conversations CIVIL and yet most issues involve Politics. They have decided to close this site to political subjects.

[DAVES]

Well. At least you get to have the last word.
Something I have never achieved with my wife! :ohdear:

I do not do marital advice. There is a reason why eye sight and hearing fade.

[DAVES]

You made me look. Here’s what could have happened……

I assume you mean the thread about the homeless in TV.

The topic of the homeless is impossible for a group to discuss without some bringing their personal, religious beliefs into the conversation.

Religion has been in 2 or 3 TOTV threads lately and those threads have moved along OK — mostly— although I could see they would eventually hit thin ice.

Your last post in that thread took a direct hit on one of the posters who expressed Christianity as the basis for his personal response to the topic — as had others.

You have been making your thoughts on religion clear — and that is your prerogative. But I think that last post of yours came off like, “ Shut the hell up” — even though you did not word it like that, you quoted a poster who maybe got on your last nerve……..

Posting in disagreement can be like walking a tightrope, trying to address the opinion without taking a direct hit on the poster.

Also, the moderator might have grown weary of monitoring what could have turned into an all out religious war and you just happened to fire the last shot in a battle.

Boomer


Often ADVICE in contact with people is do not discuss POLITICS or RELIGION. There is merit in that.

[Two Bills]

I do not do marital advice. There is a reason why eye sight and hearing fade.

Actually, I just built a big shed!:icon_wink:

[Bogie Shooter]

Actually, I just built a big shed!:icon_wink:

Did you get ARC approval?:police:

[coffeebean]

Was there a comment by the thought police at the end of the thread as to why the thread was being taken down? They'll usually do that. Unless you get a specific message it probably wasn't anything you posted. Look at the very top of this page just under the green topic headings. You should see something like "private messages; unread __, total __. If the number in the "unread" line has anything but a zero in it it means you have a message.

I have had those messages from the mods a couple of times but not this last time when the thread was closed. I guess it wasn't my comment that closed this last thread I'm referring to..

[coffeebean]

Well. At least you get to have the last word.
Something I have never achieved with my wife! :ohdear:

I have always appreciated your sense of humor.

[coffeebean]

Well. At least you get to have the last word.
Something I have never achieved with my wife! :ohdear:

You made me look. Here’s what could have happened……

I assume you mean the thread about the homeless in TV.

The topic of the homeless is impossible for a group to discuss without some bringing their personal, religious beliefs into the conversation.

Religion has been in 2 or 3 TOTV threads lately and those threads have moved along OK — mostly— although I could see they would eventually hit thin ice.

Your last post in that thread took a direct hit on one of the posters who expressed Christianity as the basis for his personal response to the topic — as had others.

You have been making your thoughts on religion clear — and that is your prerogative. But I think that last post of yours came off like, “ Shut the hell up” — even though you did not word it like that, you quoted a poster who maybe got on your last nerve……..

Posting in disagreement can be like walking a tightrope, trying to address the opinion without taking a direct hit on the poster.

Also, the moderator might have grown weary of monitoring what could have turned into an all out religious war and you just happened to fire the last shot in a battle.

Boomer

Yup.

[coffeebean]

No need to apologize, Coffeebean.

Maybe we can form a club for people who write posts that irritate others.

............. :)

[fdpaq0580]

Political-
It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep political mass conversations CIVIL and yet most issues involve Politics. They have decided to close this site to political subjects.

Political! Even my shoes are political. One is left and the other is right. 😏

[Sabella]

Can’t wait till our basic right - freedom of speech is restored.

[Laker14]

Often ADVICE in contact with people is do not discuss POLITICS or RELIGION. There is merit in that.

it took me a long time to learn this piece of advice to the point that I actually follow it now.
But I have an excuse for being so slow to learn.
As I reflect back on my youth, in my house we discussed politics a lot, and religion as well, and usually from disagreeing viewpoints.
My dad was not so much interested in that we agreed with him as he was interested in seeing us think critically. He also talked in a loud and animated way, which to the uninitiated sounded a lot like he was arguing, and angry. Those of us who lived under his roof knew that "angry" sounded a whole lot different.

Unfortunately, for me, I thought this was normal behavior, and it took me a long time to figure out that what I thought was clever and well articulated, just came off as argumentative to others. It took far too long. But I think I'm better at it now. Pretty much I just "zip it" which is easier to do in person than on the keyboard.

[Laker14]

Political! Even my shoes are political. One is left and the other is right. 😏

That's a good one.

I have a golf swing that can't figure out which way I should go.

[Get real]

Vibrant discussions are prohibited on here. :censored:

[Worldseries27]

twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment i made. Is it something i said? My bad. Sorry.
try t

[coffeebean]

try t

Not sure what this means.

[Climoge]

I’ve had several replies, polite and pleasant, referencing common moral guidelines from the Bible not appear. Censored?

[Climoge]

It would appear so. I just quick replied with only a general mention of the Bible and it showed up. Previous replies referenced the Decalogue and “Do unto others …”

[Worldseries27]

not sure what this means.
your handle is ☕
try tea.
As some have suggested go easy

[airstreamingypsy]

Can’t wait till our basic right - freedom of speech is restored.

LOL. You do know that Freedom of Speech protects you from the government. It has nothing to do with social media and breaking rules.

[OhioBuckeye]

Usually when TOTV thinks I said something bad they banned me. I don’t think you said anything thing bad. Because believe me they wouldn’t just have a Closed Thread. You wouldn’t be hear saying what you did!

[Lillyangel]

Never say you're sorry for doing something that you believe is not wrong. Someone somewhere will always find a reason to be offended. Are there any self-esteem classes here for those who don't know that no one can insult or offend you unless you allow them to? In other words, it is your perception/interpretation. It seems as if a simple solution directed at someone's comment can be taken as an insult. Meanwhile, the reporting behavior may be perpetuated via restrictions even when a reply contains nothing that personally attacks the commenter.

[DAVES]

Actually, I just built a big shed!:icon_wink:

Teasing but-put in air conditioning so when you are in the dog house you can say YES DEAR and mean it.

[DAVES]

Can’t wait till our basic right - freedom of speech is restored.

As far as freedom of speech, I read an in depth book about the Wright Brothers. Reminder the first powered flight was 1903. They were actually a world event and many or most of their writings have been saved. They in the early 1900's had similar complaints to ours. Reporters saying things they do not understand. Other reporters copying others and claiming it is their own research and reporters showing national bias. Powered flight was a world competition.

Freedom of speech has CHANGED thanks to computers and the internet. For those who choose to do so, you can publish your own book or start you own blog or post your thoughts for little or no cost. Censer, such things as letters to the editor, were always censured.

[DAVES]

Are there any self-esteem classes here for those who don't know that no one can insult or offend you unless you allow them to? In other words, it is your perception/interpretation. It seems as if a simple solution directed at someone's comment can be taken as an insult. Meanwhile, the reporting behavior may be perpetuated via restrictions even when a reply contains nothing that personally attacks the commenter.

I don't think any such classes will help. Perhaps a human need a human problem. Regular posts replies what do others think. My view unless you are intruding on the rights of others, WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHAT THEY THINK? Most people are not original thinkers but rather
PARROT what others tell them to think.

[Larchap49]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

If you used the R, D, C, or L word it might have been, but also would have resulted in a time out for you.

[coffeebean]

your handle is ☕
try tea.
As some have suggested go easy

Oh, I get it. Thanks.

[mikeycereal]

Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

Whew! Thankfully I may have dodged that one. :duck:

Let's just say "thread closer" is not the reputation that I was going for when I signed up. I would much rather prefer "popcorn eater." :popcorn:

[unialimon]

I have requested 2 times from the moderator on how to close my account. They seem to be sleeping unless I post something political. Does anyone know how to wake them up?
Or how to close an account? If need be I will post a political comment.

[JMintzer]

I have requested 2 times from the moderator on how to close my account. They seem to be sleeping unless I post something political. Does anyone know how to wake them up?
Or how to close an account? If need be I will post a political comment.

That won't get your account closed. Might get you a "time out", but your account will remain...

If you don't want an account, just stop posting...

[Pairadocs]

[QUOTE=coffeebean;2154016]Twice (to my knowledge) threads have been closed following a comment I made. Is it something I said? My bad. Sorry.

I have no idea why some people's comments are censored, and others not, why some things are considered "controversial" and others not. Since the beginning of this site, I've tried to make sure the comments I make are helpful, or uplifting, or just "tips" on various projects or topics. Having said that, I may be wandering into the forbidden territory with my question. In NO WAY am I asking this in any context of politics, NOR in any way making any comment on shots or boosters. I noticed you always sign that you are vaccinated and boosted, and got covid on a cruise but never got sick. PLEASE don't read anything nefarious into this, but how would any of us know we got Covid if we were not sick ? Did you maybe mean you went on a cruise and had a positive test result ? That could happen, I cold see that, many false positives have happened to friends. That's all, just wondering how one would know if they were never sick ? Personally, do you feel you know have natural immunity protection ? I wonder if we will ever know for sure ? Another thought, maybe "they" just did not like your printing your vaccination history ? Maybe it was not something you commented on ?

[Pairadocs]

Can’t wait till our basic right - freedom of speech is restored.

Sadly, don't think that we will ever again see the day that right is completely restored.

[Pairadocs]

Are there any self-esteem classes here for those who don't know that no one can insult or offend you unless you allow them to? In other words, it is your perception/interpretation. It seems as if a simple solution directed at someone's comment can be taken as an insult. Meanwhile, the reporting behavior may be perpetuated via restrictions even when a reply contains nothing that personally attacks the commenter.

You have made a VERY important point.... we have become an entire society of "the offended", and YES, every oral and written remark is subject to PERSONAL INTERPRETATION. WE alone have the right to "skewer" any words in the direction that will support our "victim" status. If someone comments that "YOU are uneducated", and you know you are not "uneducated", the words simply have no real meaning. The old word for what is going on was "thin skinned", people seldom take the time to reflect what might be true, worthwhile, or valuable in the words of another, the opinions of another, or even the religion or political views of another. This is a sad sad deterioration of our collective culture, and the lack of even a modicum of respect for others is NOT a good trend.

[MorTech]

If someone Feeeels offended... It is their problem.
Feeeelings...WhoaWhoaWhoa Feeeeelings.
People and their feelings...We have become a nation of feebleminded children.

[Two Bills]

I have requested 2 times from the moderator on how to close my account. They seem to be sleeping unless I post something political. Does anyone know how to wake them up?
Or how to close an account? If need be I will post a political comment.

"You can check out any time you like,
but you can never leave!"
HC.

[jebartle]

Some posters have a difficult time articulating without offending, but for the most part, our forum is informative even thou kindness goes out the window at times.

[MrFlorida]

Be happy, you got the last word in......

[blueash]

...I noticed you always sign that you are vaccinated and boosted, and got covid on a cruise but never got sick. PLEASE don't read anything nefarious into this, but how would any of us know we got Covid if we were not sick ? Did you maybe mean you went on a cruise and had a positive test result ? That could happen, I cold see that, many false positives have happened to friends. ....?


I will not read anything nefarious into your comment that you suggest her test was a false positive as many of your friends had a false positive..... BUT...

I don't want to highjack this thread but your statement needs to be given some correction as that is how false Covid data gets spread.

Any lab test is evaluated on its sensitivity... whether a person with a disease diagnosed by a gold standard (PCR) will be found positive by the test. So if 100 people have Covid a perfect test would be positive in those 100 patients, 100% sensitive, it doesn't miss any persons whether they feel fine or sick. Rapid antigen testing does not achieve this goal. It is falsely negative in about 30% of people who really have Covid. Not great but pretty good. That is why it is often suggested to do a second test a day or two later if your first was negative and you remain unwell.

Specificity defines whether a negative test is a true negative. Take subjects and do a PCR for Covid and at the same time do a rapid test. Now look at only those with negative PCR [truly not infected]. For 1000 persons with a negative PCR they will be negative on about 990 to 999 rapid tests. This is for patients PCR tested with or without symptoms.

There are effectively NO FALSE POSITIVES on rapid testing.
See http://nzz-files-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/2021/4/6/4c1f9962-44bf-4288-b543-5e71ade9c0e0.pdf which is Cochrane review " Average specificities were high in symptomatic and asymptomatic participants, and for most brands (overall summary specificity 99.6%, 95% CI 99.0% to 99.8%)."

Keep in mind that having a positive PCR for Covid means that the virus, or parts of the virus, is present in the sample. It does not mean the patient is sick or contagious.

Sensitivity and specificity - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_specificity) to understand the meanings of specific and sensitive Additional concepts of positive and negative predictive value become important depending on the true amount of circulating disease.

[unialimon]

F rom what I can tell.
J ust mentioning a political story can
B ecome a problem.

[PugMom]

It was.
Not the first time.
Not the last time.
:posting:

:mornincoffee:

haven't seen you, where you been>???

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Some posters have a difficult time articulating without offending, but for the most part, our forum is informative even thou kindness goes out the window at times.

At times? Hah. I think you're just trying to be kind.