How to overcome the "occasional" night of not being able to get to sleep.

[billethkid]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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[JSR22]

2 extra strength Aleve.

[dewilson58]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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U R old enough to know about what not to eat & drink and timing.............common fix for some once learned.

Not a fan of warm milk, booze assistance, drugs or reading.

Some say, stay away from the TV because it stimulates..............not me.
Late night TV came put me asleep.
Jus be selective on what you watch.

:)

[Velvet]

After a very special person died, there was no time I could sleep more than a few minutes at a time, for a long time. I listened to Mark Grant Sleep Restore Based on EMDR, on YouTube on my iPad. Later I blue tooth it to my Bose sound system for higher quality of sound. EMDR is psychiatric therapy for PTSD, very effective at breaking trauma. Sleep became slightly longer and in 4 months I was able to graduate to gentle, classical music. A warm bath and 1/2 glass of warm milk before bed time helped me too.

[oldtimes]

Oddly a small snack often works for me, just a cookie or a cracker. It seems that engaging the stomach often diverts the brain.

[Two Bills]

I have always been very lucky getting off to sleep pretty much as soon as my head hits the pillow
On the rare occasions when I cannot get off, I play a round of golf in my head at one of the different courses I have played over the years.
I very seldom finish a round.
If that does not work, I get up, put a blanket round myself, lay on sofa and turn on the tv, with no sound.
Works better than Mogadon!

[retiredguy123]

Two Melatonin gummies, 10MG.

[asianthree]

Mid 60’s and for 45 years of call, had to be awake and alert in seconds. 4 hours of solid sleep is all I have ever needed. It’s hereditary on my father side entire family doesn’t sleep more than 4 to 5 hours, almost all lived until late 90’s.

Never, tired, not sleepy and if I take a nap I’m not be sleeping that night. I haven’t used caffeine since 1971, super sensitive.

Everyone said when I slow down from working, I would stop waking at 3:30a, still going to bed around 11 or 1130.

They were right, I now wake at 3:45 that extra 15 minutes really changes your day.
Our gym up north was 24/7, 364.5, with indoor pool. Here have to wait til 7a to lap, so run for awhile, then zip over to swim, after cup of tea and a fruit.

I gave up trying to sleep longer in my 20’s, but sometimes I do envy when someone says I only got 10 hours of sleep last night

[pacjag]

The best advice I can give is to stay active and eliminate any caffeine after mid-day. I used to have trouble but switching to decaffeinated drinks and tea, I drop off in just a couple of minutes.

[Aces4]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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I normally have the “occasionally” sleepless night the week before full moon and know of many others with that timing.

I don’t panic or worry about being awake. I dwell lightly on running through all the things I’m grateful for in my life and I can usually doze back off rather quickly. If that doesn’t work, I make sure I’m warm enough or cool enough and may take one adult aspirin if slightly achy.

And every once in awhile, it’s just a night of less sleep. :shrug:

[OpusX1]

We take a teaspoon of raw honey at bed time nd it has worked for us.

[sail33or]

XANAX. Tiny piece.

[BrianL99]

Mid 60’s and for 45 years of call, had to be awake and alert in seconds. 4 hours of solid sleep is all I have ever needed. It’s hereditary on my father side entire family doesn’t sleep more than 4 to 5 hours, almost all lived until late 90’s.

Never, tired, not sleepy and if I take a nap I’m not be sleeping that night. I haven’t used caffeine since 1971, super sensitive.

Everyone said when I slow down from working, I would stop waking at 3:30a, still going to bed around 11 or 1130.

They were right, I now wake at 3:45 that extra 15 minutes really changes your day.
Our gym up north was 24/7, 364.5, with indoor pool. Here have to wait til 7a to lap, so run for awhile, then zip over to swim, after cup of tea and a fruit.

I gave up trying to sleep longer in my 20’s, but sometimes I do envy when someone says I only got 10 hours of sleep last night

I'm sure that was a very helpful response for the poster who asked a question.

[patfla06]

I feel your pain. I used to sleep like a baby and now realize how much I took that for granted.

I think my problem is my addiction to my Ipad, it messes with sleepiness.

[manaboutown]

The only time I have trouble sleeping is if an event severely stresses me out during the day or I start worrying about something. What I have found helps me is that as soon as possible after the stressful event occurs to take a half hour walk or ride my stationary bicycle to bring my cortisol level down. Also when in bed I try to focus on pleasant thoughts and memories or meditate.

[Boomer]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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If my brain is preoccupied and won’t let me sleep, I try to reoccupy the part that is preoccupied……

I visualize a map of the United States and then think through the state capitals. Boredom sets in and I fall asleep before I get through all 50.

Boomer

[bowlingal]

turn on the tv in the bedroom....works like a charm

[banjobob]

Crown Royal and a little 7UP with ice works for me

[Dusty_Star]

Given your specific question about turning off your thinking, I think the two responses that people gave to otherwise occupy your brain are probably the most helpful. You need to find something that interests you, can potentially take a while to think through, & is at the same time a little dull (by this I mean it in no way gets you stressed or excited) or offers avenues that you can dwell on (for example both for golf & state capitals, you can start remembering the scenery). Both posters, the round of golf & the state capitals offer all of the qualities. I do something similar & it helps. I am interested in history so I can start listing the causes of the Wars of the Roses or the First World War, or listing English Monarchs & any details about them or US Presidents. On the other hand if politics gets you upset don't try the Presidents thing.
:icon_wink: But anything along these lines will do. You could take apart an engine & put it back together.

[fsusix]

The liquid version of ZQuil with no medicine in it - I prefer the purple one - works amazing for me and my husband. Liquid works faster than pills. Saying prayers works wonders

[Dusty_Star]

I think I should have added another quality of a good soporific brain exercise is it has a goal that keeps you on track, ie: 18 holes, 50 states, 40 some odd monarchs, etc.

[CSB1228]

[QUOTE=billethkid;2155278]Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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A breathing solution that works most of the time. Take 3 deep breaths, exhale continuously out with your lips pursed until you want to yawn. Try it at least twice. It should help you relax.

[retiredguy123]

If my brain is preoccupied and won’t let me sleep, I try to reoccupy the part that is preoccupied……

I visualize a map of the United States and then think through the state capitals. Boredom sets in and I fall asleep before I get through all 50.

Boomer
LOL. I visualize the Universe and think through the galaxies.

[JGibson]

It's even worst when you can't sleep and go to the kitchen and start eating. Or wake up in the middle of the night and start eating. It's called nocturnal eating disorder and it's almost like sleep walking.
Xanax works but contrary to popular belief it's addictive hence why it's a narcotic. Ambian is the worst it does all types of weird things to your brain.
There is nothing like natural sleep. My wife falls asleep the minute her heads her pillow. Grrrrrrr ������*♂️

[Sandy and Ed]

Easy peasy: one half Benadryl and a cup of camomile tea does it for me every time.

[Nucky]

If my brain is preoccupied and won’t let me sleep, I try to reoccupy the part that is preoccupied……

I visualize a map of the United States and then think through the state capitals. Boredom sets in and I fall asleep before I get through all 50.

Boomer
I wonder which state you fall asleep ������ at on your countdown?

I get up and make sure the screws in the cover plates of the outlets and switch plates are all from east to west.

The other thing that works is YouTube. I put on Unashamed with the Duck Dynasty crew and just listen. Their banter is a surefire remedy for sleep and if I’m still jammed up then All In The Family works.

Swimming during the day knocks me out! Good Luck, no sleep is hell.

[Two Bills]

I wonder which state you fall asleep 💤 at on your countdown?

I get up and make sure the screws in the cover plates of the outlets and switch plates are all from east to west.

The other thing that works is YouTube. I put on Unashamed with the Duck Dynasty crew and just listen. Their banter is a sure fire remedy for sleep and if I’m still jammed up then All In The Family works.

Swimming during the day knocks me ou! Good Luck, no sleep is hell.

North to south man with the screws myself.
Water runs off better if splashed.
Off to sort out my sock draw.
Wife got color order mixed up!:icon_wink:

[lindaelane]

Alteril is over the counter, contains melatonin, valerian, L-tryptophan and chamomile.

Also, I sometimes "count to 100" but my rule is that if my mind wanders and the numbers are not the main thing with my attention, then I start over.

I get further and further with each attempt to stop my mind wandering off. I do not usually make it to 100 before falling asleep after a few attempts. It is quite boring, but has mostly been effective. However, some nights, I give up after quite a few attempts to reach 100.

[pfankuch]

Breathe in through the nose for 4 seconds, hold it for 8 seconds, exhale though the mouth for 7 seconds. If you feel like yawning do it. Take it to the next level: do the same exercise while counting back from 100.

[dewilson58]

The liquid version of ZQuil with no medicine in it

:22yikes::22yikes:

WOW!!!!

[Craftylady]

After not sleeping thru the night in 20 years I got medical marijuana. One gummy and I sleep like a baby

[MidWestIA]

Wind down reading things like this on the internet until I feel tired then go to bed

[Cartybabe]

Really Folks. XANAX. Tiny piece. Non addictive. Very safe.

Actually Xanax is very addictive. Maybe w the small piece you tske it’s better. But it is a very addictive drug.

[airstreamingypsy]

Normally I fall asleep when my head hits the pillow, thanks to a 25% diphenhydramine before bed. (Benadryl) Last night I watched the Kansas City game and was so pumped I couldn't fall asleep. Football games should be earlier <g>

[wamley]

I do the same with Golf, I play hole si've played many times having my drives land in different areas and pick the right club for the locastion and conditions of that spot. I only make it through several holes. I start at different holes to avoid being bored.

[Djean1981]

I've tried many options. The best non-medicinal is a half cup of warm almond milk with a little cinnamon stirred in. Also, I've successfully used the Michael Saeley sleep videos in YouTube (esp. the one with a black and white/grey palm tree for the image).

If that doesn't work, a melatonin gummy. :(

[BlkBlt6]

[QUOTE=billethkid;2155278]Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

______________________________________________
Exercise! I find that if I am active in the day I have an easy time going to sleep at night. I walk 3-8 miles a day unless I play golf. I walk the golf course. I also think water walking is a good way to exercise your muscles with little chance of hurting yourself. Good luck!

[Two Bills]

Another method I used , was counting the people who would miss me when I am gone, but that never worked, as list was way to short.
I changed to all those who'd love to see the back of me.
That worked.
Never got to the end of that list!

[nhtexasrn]

Really Folks. XANAX. Tiny piece. Non addictive. Very safe.

Xanax is a benzodiazepine and therefore is considered an addictive drug. One can also become physically dependent on the drug and with regular use it can take more and more to work. Sudden withdrawal can cause many serious symptoms including seizures. Please don't play Dr. and recommend something that could be quite harmful to someone even if you personally tolerate it with no problems.

[frasep]

I stare at the back of my eyelids and refuse to let any thought in. When one sneaks in I chase it away and go back to seeing "nothing". It sometimes takes chasing away quite a few but eventually it works for me.

[midiwiz]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

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First thing for Brain doesn't turn off is no Melatonin, you aren't helping anyone but the doctor. Brain activity is best off to be 'distracted' , I've been that way forever, actually I get my best ideas at night lol. I use a tablet, I have my streaming on there, I just put it on barely any volume so there is some noise but not enough to distract, also find something you aren't going to get tied up wanting to watch... I find Guy Fieri droning on DDD to be just enough distraction with zero interest in watching. remember it's just other noise, I tried XM and stuff but I have a music background so it would stop me from drifting off.

Never turn to meds for this, it's far easier to use distraction...and learn yoga breathing to relax down to sleep.

[Donaz1]

I get to sleep quickly but wake up after 3 hours. I then take 1/2 of a benadryl tablet and that really works for me.

[Nucky]

North to south man with the screws myself.
Water runs off better if splashed.
Off to sort out my sock draw.
Wife got color order mixed up!:icon_wink:

We use East to West to catch the water because the money we save on water makes up for leaving the doorbell light and the post light on all night! :jester::a20:

[Nucky]

Another method I used , was counting the people who would miss me when I am gone, but that never worked, as list was way to short.
I changed to all those who'd love to see the back of me.
That worked.
Never got to the end of that list!

I don't think that's a short list, Bill. I always enjoy your posts. You get what this forum is all about! :posting:

[Tyson]

2 Ibupropfon PM and your out

[tophcfa]

I stay active as much as possible during waking hours so I’m exhausted and pop two 5 mg indica gummy’s about 45 minutes before bed and could easily sleep without waking up to 8 1/2 hours if my dam bladder didn’t wake me up in the middle of the night.

[bp243]

As a last resort, warm hot chocolate works for me. Heat up a small cup of milk (or almond milk) for 1 microwave minute and add a couple spoons of chocolate mix. Whip to combine and enjoy. For some reason, it works like magic for me.

[Velvet]

As a last resort, warm hot chocolate works for me. Heat up a small cup of milk (or almond milk) for 1 microwave minute and add a couple spoons of chocolate mix. Whip to combine and enjoy. For some reason, it works like magic for me.

I use Breville frother to whip up the milk. You can pick both temperature and texture of froth - absolutely yummy!

[Whitley]

Difficult question. Imagine it is different for each person. I started a company when I was 26. Developed ulcers, could not turn off my brain. At 35 I had two small children and was diagnosed with cancer(Stage 3). I was getting maybe 90 minutes of broken sleep a night. They gave me sleeping meds that I imagine our no longer prescribed as I do not hear of them (secanol, halcyon etc.). To this day, if I wake up and lay awake my mind will spin out of control.
There is an rx called cyclobenzaprine (I probably butchered the spelling) that seems to work and is supposedly not addictive. It can be taken with other meds with greater safety (Please do not take the word of someone in a message board. Consult with your doctor). My current onc wants to put me on thc. I have a couple of fed licenses that I fear could be pulled as it is not viewed as legal by the fed government. I also wonder if I would have a bad recation to it. I know it sounds silly as I have no doubt much of what I have been prescribed is probably far more dangerous. I have survived over 20 years now and plan to keep on going.

[HORNET]

Milk isn’t the best thing to lay in the stomach overnight

[Aces4]

I use Breville frother to whip up the milk. You can pick both temperature and texture of froth - absolutely yummy!

Wouldn’t work for most of us, our minds would remain awake so we could have that treat.:icon_wink:

[fdpaq0580]

Try to get my wonderful wife to quit snoring. KRONK!! SNORK!! ZONK!!
😱😠😵

[mikeycereal]

A ways before my 70's, but late night tv is my drug of choice. A familiar movie or show puts me to sleep. Long as it doesn't have a scream in it so it won't wake me.

Better yet, if not movies/shows there are some good white noise channels on youtube. My favorites are the rain and crackling fireplace ones with repeat video of the scenery or room. Some are 8 hrs long.

[New Englander]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

______________________________________________

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I use Zolpidem 10mg. Talk to you primary care Physician.

[ThirdOfFive]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

______________________________________________

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I guess I'm luckier than most; when that happens my wife just rocks me to sleep.

She uses a rock...about this big...

[D.Bolen]

. . . . There is an rx called cyclobenzaprine (I probably butchered the spelling) that seems to work and is supposedly not addictive. It can be taken with other meds with greater safety (Please do not take the word of someone in a message board. Consult with your doctor). . . .

My spouse was prescribed Cyclobenzaprine at one time, it's a muscle relaxant (just FYI). Taken as directed with an Rx for nerve pain that was also prescribed, the combo resulted in a bit too much relaxing and tendency to fall during nightly nature calls. Not giving advice (and not wanting to veer this thread off into an Rx discussion), just sharing info.

[sail33or]

I corrected my original post. Looked up XANAX and it can be habit forming for some people. I inherited them from my 98 year old mother who took them for 30 years. No issues.

[Toymeister]

I would get a script for 50mg of trazodone. It is written off label for insomnia, typically at doses below 100mg. It's been existence for sixty years now. It's not considered addictive when used as needed

[Aces4]

I corrected my original post. Looked up XANAX and it can be habit forming for some people. I inherited them from my 98 year old mother who took them for 30 years. No issues.

Ah, thirty years may be an addition. ;-)

[Velvet]

Ah, thirty years may be an addition. ;-)

Addiction…I think he meant that too… personally, I only take prescribed meds on pain of death. The pharma companies must hate me.

[Two Bills]

A good old time herbal help is Valerian.
I have used it when my sciatica kicks off.
Definitely helps me.

[Mustagotlost]

I just starter having difficulty falling asleep. I am (75+) and miserable when I don’t sleep. My wife doesn’t sleep well but she some how plows through the day. May slip in a nap hear and there.

I’m with the guys using CBD or if necessary I pull out the big gun THC never in large quantities (10 mg). Misspent youth glad it legal. Back home even THC can be purchased without a license. Although in FL. it’s easy to get approved for medical marijuana.:coolsmiley:

[Byte1]

Playing solitaire on the computer is so boring that it puts me to sleep.

[PugMom]

have a hot bath, small snack with a glass of milk & late, late nite reruns of old b&w westerns @ low volume. also use deep breathing techniques. sometimes the feeling of clean crisp sheets can be enough to relax me, & don't TRY to fall asleep. it will happen on its own. good luck :ho:

[coffeebean]

North to south man with the screws myself.
Water runs off better if splashed.
Off to sort out my sock draw.
Wife got color order mixed up!:icon_wink:

Agree about the screws. All of ours are north to south and perfectly straight.

[PugMom]

Difficult question. Imagine it is different for each person. I started a company when I was 26. Developed ulcers, could not turn off my brain. At 35 I had two small children and was diagnosed with cancer(Stage 3). I was getting maybe 90 minutes of broken sleep a night. They gave me sleeping meds that I imagine our no longer prescribed as I do not hear of them (secanol, halcyon etc.). To this day, if I wake up and lay awake my mind will spin out of control.
There is an rx called cyclobenzaprine (I probably butchered the spelling) that seems to work and is supposedly not addictive. It can be taken with other meds with greater safety (Please do not take the word of someone in a message board. Consult with your doctor). My current onc wants to put me on thc. I have a couple of fed licenses that I fear could be pulled as it is not viewed as legal by the fed government. I also wonder if I would have a bad recation to it. I know it sounds silly as I have no doubt much of what I have been prescribed is probably far more dangerous. I have survived over 20 years now and plan to keep on going.

dear friend, i take cyclobenzaprine, but for chronic daily muscle spasms. i'm on a higher dose than most, 3 10mg tabs a day. as for being addicted, i had a heart to heart with my dr years ago. she discussed the difference between the terms addiction & dependence. i depend on these meds the same way i depend on my blood pressure or thyroid pills to care for my health. if you do not exceed recommended dosage & use as directed, you're all good. the thing is i had to get them from my pain dr., idk if a regular doc would prescribe them. i also use thc, & imo only, i'd go with the thc. i'd think as long as you use MEDICAL thc, you should be under less scrutiny, but you will have to verify that. if you choose thc, you'd want a high thc (25% @ least) indica strain @ bedtime for sleepless nights. best of luck no matter what you choose

[La lamy]

I have had issues sleeping throughout my life. I now start my bedtime routine with reading a few pages, then I go through my gratitude list which I often don't make through before either falling asleep or getting distracted. Then I'll get back to it and continue where I left off, I'm up to almost 100 things to be grateful for!!! If I'm still awake I'll either do my mantra or start singing Bridge over troubled waters in my brain. I know, random!! A big help is doing stretches about 1 1/2 before bed. It's amazing how those stretches bring circulation and calmness to achy muscles which leads to much easier sleep. But it sure takes discipline to do it!

[ithos]

Millions like me have found that brown, pink or white noise makes a big difference. For me it is almost hypnotic and it helps masks any other background noise.

White noise (and pink and brown): The science behind the sounds | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/health/white-pink-brown-noise-sleep-wellness)

[Two Bills]

I have had issues sleeping throughout my life. I now start my bedtime routine with reading a few pages, then I go through my gratitude list which I often don't make through before either falling asleep or getting distracted. Then I'll get back to it and continue where I left off, I'm up to almost 100 things to be grateful for!!! If I'm still awake I'll either do my mantra or start singing Bridge over troubled waters in my brain. I know, random!! A big help is doing stretches about 1 1/2 before bed. It's amazing how those stretches bring circulation and calmness to achy muscles which leads to much easier sleep. But it sure takes discipline to do it!

Maybe if you cut out 99% of the things and rituals you have to get through, it would clear your mind, and make it easier to get to sleep?
Luckily I am a male, and it's a well proven fact that men can only think of, or do one thing at a time. So I do have that advantage!:icon_wink:

[Worldseries27]

most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

______________________________________________

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go over your tax statement from tri county authorities. Start with words " ad valorem" as if it was a greeting/ salutation.
Better off saying it in english," beware all ye who enter

[Jewelz]

There is a study that taking Benadryl (also the same ingredient in the Tylenol p.m. etc drugs) regularly can increase the risk for dementia!
Common anticholinergic drugs like Benadryl linked to increased dementia risk - Harvard Health (https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-drugs-like-benadryl-linked-increased-dementia-risk-201501287667)

[La lamy]

Maybe if you cut out 99% of the things and rituals you have to get through, it would clear your mind, and make it easier to get to sleep?
Luckily I am a male, and it's a well proven fact that men can only think of, or do one thing at a time. So I do have that advantage!:icon_wink:

So true! Maybe I stress myself out trying to get through my long gratitude list. Hahaha

[lildfromnyc]

I'm sure that was a very helpful response for the poster who asked a question.
Hahaha!

[Worldseries27]

i have had issues sleeping throughout my life. I now start my bedtime routine with reading a few pages, then i go through my gratitude list which i often don't make through before either falling asleep or getting distracted. Then i'll get back to it and continue where i left off, i'm up to almost 100 things to be grateful for!!! If i'm still awake i'll either do my mantra or start singing bridge over troubled waters in my brain. I know, random!! A big help is doing stretches about 1 1/2 before bed. It's amazing how those stretches bring circulation and calmness to achy muscles which leads to much easier sleep. But it sure takes discipline to do it!
i watch a little ballet. The spinning makes me dizzy and sleepy

[jimkerr]

Most of us have this happen from time to time. Maybe more often as we get older.......75+++.

Those times when you just can not turn off your brain.

What do you do?

______________________________________________

:censored:

Medical Marijuana

[Berwin]

Pick up the Kindle and select Moby Dick. Two pages and I'm out like a light. Has worked for years and I'm almost 1/3 through it. :-)

[FT9508]

Good advise all......

[Jillbugg]

Take one benedryl. Makes you drowsy enough to fall asleep.

[Petersweeney]

No one noticed the full moon last night….

[Ptmckiou]

Two Melatonin gummies, 10MG.

Works for me too! Also, no alcohol. It disturbs your sleep pattern and wakes you up around 3AM.

[Velvet]

go over your tax statement from tri county authorities. Start with words " ad valorem" as if it was a greeting/ salutation.
Better off saying it in english," beware all ye who enter

Yep, that would work for me.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Normally I fall asleep when my head hits the pillow, thanks to a 25% diphenhydramine before bed. (Benadryl) Last night I watched the Kansas City game and was so pumped I couldn't fall asleep. Football games should be earlier <g>

Works great.
One problem, I'm completely useless the next day
Oh, and move to Hawaii. Real early NFL

[StuartCoffey]

lf I determine that I am not going back to sleep (awake for 30 minutes) I get up, get small glass of milk and 4 small graham crackers, dunk crackers in milk, back to bed and back to sleep. The sooner I determine that I am not getting back to sleep the better for taking this snack solution.

[Aces4]

No one noticed the full moon last night….

Yeah, it was mentioned earlier…. Post #10