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RICH1
11-15-2022, 06:59 AM
China’s Taiwan is the Worlds premier chip maker, and current technology depends on them. Obviously the Russian Military has been demoralized, and running on fumes. Russia has a failing economy and requires Chinas financial support. China requires something in return. It appears that after China gains control over Russia, they will soon control the oil supply to Europe. China never fired a shot and had everything to gain from the Russian invasion or Ukraine. World Domination is Chinas end game!
fishon
11-15-2022, 07:03 AM
China has made great gains influencing some South American countries.
If they can get Russia under their wing they will certainly have world wide power.
Byte1
11-15-2022, 08:36 AM
Come to think about it, China DID construct a larger canal for Panama recently.
Arctic Fox
11-15-2022, 01:40 PM
China never fired a shot and had everything to gain from the Russian invasion of Ukraine. World Domination is China's end game!
The failure of Russia to crush the Ukraine is a wake-up call for all "World Powers", just as Vietnam was for the USA.
The USA has used its wealth to influence many countries worldwide but that doesn't mean that it, or China, is aiming for "World Domination". That kind of thinking powered the arms race, which benefited military leaders and suppliers enormously but has not done much good for the man in the street.
jimbomaybe
11-15-2022, 07:05 PM
The failure of Russia to crush the Ukraine is a wake-up call for all "World Powers", just as Vietnam was for the USA.
The USA has used its wealth to influence many countries worldwide but that doesn't mean that it, or China, is aiming for "World Domination". That kind of thinking powered the arms race, which benefited military leaders and suppliers enormously but has not done much good for the man in the street.
China hasn't had a blue water navy since the middle ages, only a coastal force, after the Open door to China of the Kissinger / Nixon era China started to modernize their military both quantitatively and qualitatively, create and militarize islands sitting astride world trade routes, first surface ships then subs latest addition a carrier force, ballistic missile systems, claiming large sections of the pacific as their economic zone, anti ship missile systems that have a very long reach from the mainland , ,, I guess they just like sailing around in new hightech warships
RICH1
11-15-2022, 10:53 PM
Chinas Navy has surpassed the United States Navy!
Chi-Town
11-15-2022, 11:44 PM
Nothing like a yellow peril thread on TOTV.
jimbomaybe
11-16-2022, 05:21 AM
Nothing like a yellow peril thread on TOTV.
The geo/political/military/economic facts have changed, characterizing them as "yellow peril" does not change the facts and what they portend
Stu from NYC
11-16-2022, 07:39 AM
Chinas Navy has surpassed the United States Navy!
In quantity but not quality.
Hape2Bhr
11-16-2022, 10:01 AM
In quantity but not quality.
Who do you think they stole the blueprints from?
ElLegal
11-16-2022, 05:34 PM
The failure of Russia to crush the Ukraine is a wake-up call for all "World Powers", just as Vietnam was for the USA.
The USA has used its wealth to influence many countries worldwide but that doesn't mean that it, or China, is aiming for "World Domination". That kind of thinking powered the arms race, which benefited military leaders and suppliers enormously but has not done much good for the man in the street.
The USA has used its influence to destroy countries.
Aces4
11-16-2022, 06:29 PM
The USA has used its influence to destroy countries.
Please name the countries that were destroyed and why the USA destroyed them and how.
coralway
11-16-2022, 07:08 PM
Wonder if we are still looking for all those WMD's Iraq had.
bowlingal
11-17-2022, 04:22 AM
Rich1.......maybe when Putin is dead....and most likely not in our lifetime
Two Bills
11-17-2022, 04:51 AM
We in Britain once had the largest Empire in the world, and a navy that ruled the waves, but now they can't muster enough ships to stop an invasion of rubber dinghies bringing thousands of illegal migrants from France across the Channel daily. :shrug:
Every dog has its day in the sun!
Woof! Woof!
thevillager1988
11-17-2022, 07:12 AM
This book is very well researched and informative.
michstrito
11-17-2022, 07:26 AM
“Obviously the Russian military has been demoralized and is running on fumes.” Well yes, according to our main stream media. But we’re being misled unfortunately. It’s not that hard to balance the truth by seeking sources that are outside of western media influence.
Regarding world domination being China’s end game: the US has 750 foreign military bases in 80 countries. China has 5. I think their end game is to live well and prosper.
Regorp
11-17-2022, 09:25 AM
China’s Taiwan is the Worlds premier chip maker, and current technology depends on them. Obviously the Russian Military has been demoralized, and running on fumes. Russia has a failing economy and requires Chinas financial support. China requires something in return. It appears that after China gains control over Russia, they will soon control the oil supply to Europe. China never fired a shot and had everything to gain from the Russian invasion or Ukraine. World Domination is Chinas end game!
Taiwan is called the Republic of China, a separate country, and mainland China is called the People's Republic of China, but they do not rule Taiwan, though they wish to, the #1 maker of semi-conductors in the world.
Carla B
11-17-2022, 11:23 AM
This book is very well researched and informative.
My husband and I were alerted to Peter Zeihan and geopolitics about a month ago when we were sent an email linking to a video of a recent speech he made to a group. Instead of trying to watch the hour-long speech on the little screen I found it on YouTube on the big screen.
Not only is that speech on YouTube, so are many, many more dating back to around 2013. All are based and built on the idea that geographical and demographic advantages are possessed by certain countries and is how they got where they are today. He is also such an engaging speaker that one doesn't want to miss a single word.
I regret living on the planet so long without being exposed to this kind of geopolitical knowledge, but then it is not uncommon for Americans to be insulated and isolated.
michstrito
11-17-2022, 01:33 PM
Zeihan believes that after Russia dispenses with Ukraine it will come for NATO. This is fantasy. If you read a 2017 Rand study (available online) it’s clear that it’s the other way around. US/NATO have been pushing ever eastward since the fall of the Berlin wall after promising Gorbachev they would not expand “one inch” beyond Germany’s border. Yes Russia is in an existential fight for its survival. They will never accept NATO in Ukraine.
As regards Putin’s desire to reconstitute the Soviet empire here is a quote: “ People in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart, and those that do regret it have no brain.”
Stu from NYC
11-17-2022, 02:23 PM
Life will get more and more interesting.
At some point the people of China will rise up against the party.⁹
michstrito
11-17-2022, 03:14 PM
Sorry, I promise to leave this alone but since 1980 China has lifted 800 million people out of Poverty. And here’s a tidbit exposing Pompeo’s misleading statement about the CCP vs a recent study released by the Harvard Ash Center.
“In late July, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a speech that the Chinese Communist Party rules over an “oppressed” people. “The CCP fears the Chinese people’s honest opinions more than any foe,” he said. While the Communist Party presents itself as a spokesperson for the Chinese people, Pompeo was now accusing them of holding their own people hostage. But a recent study released by the Harvard Ash Center portrayed a different reality. In a decade-long survey of more than 31,000 Chinese citizens from 2003 to 2016, researchers Edward Cunningham, Tony Saich, and Jessie Turiel found that “Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board.”
jimjamuser
11-17-2022, 04:22 PM
China’s Taiwan is the Worlds premier chip maker, and current technology depends on them. Obviously the Russian Military has been demoralized, and running on fumes. Russia has a failing economy and requires Chinas financial support. China requires something in return. It appears that after China gains control over Russia, they will soon control the oil supply to Europe. China never fired a shot and had everything to gain from the Russian invasion or Ukraine. World Domination is Chinas end game!
i see things a little differently. Russian would like to PARTNER UP with China to oppose the US, Europe, and the west. But, Russia is NOT about to become China's lap dog. Russia has the earth's most nuclear ICBMs so can't be taken lightly by anyone. Both China and Russia are showing signs of weakness because of increased totalitarian decision-making.
Stu from NYC
11-17-2022, 04:31 PM
Sorry, I promise to leave this alone but since 1980 China has lifted 800 million people out of Poverty. And here’s a tidbit exposing Pompeo’s misleading statement about the CCP vs a recent study released by the Harvard Ash Center.
“In late July, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a speech that the Chinese Communist Party rules over an “oppressed” people. “The CCP fears the Chinese people’s honest opinions more than any foe,” he said. While the Communist Party presents itself as a spokesperson for the Chinese people, Pompeo was now accusing them of holding their own people hostage. But a recent study released by the Harvard Ash Center portrayed a different reality. In a decade-long survey of more than 31,000 Chinese citizens from 2003 to 2016, researchers Edward Cunningham, Tony Saich, and Jessie Turiel found that “Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board.”
Ever talk to people who live in China? I have an get a different answer on citizen satisfaction.
jimbomaybe
11-17-2022, 04:32 PM
Zeihan believes that after Russia dispenses with Ukraine it will come for NATO. This is fantasy. If you read a 2017 Rand study (available online) it’s clear that it’s the other way around. US/NATO have been pushing ever eastward since the fall of the Berlin wall after promising Gorbachev they would not expand “one inch” beyond Germany’s border. Yes Russia is in an existential fight for its survival. They will never accept NATO in Ukraine.
As regards Putin’s desire to reconstitute the Soviet empire here is a quote: “ People in Russia say that those who do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union have no heart, and those that do regret it have no brain.”
The reason for NATOs expansion is that former Warsaw Pact countries want to distance themselves from Russia
jimbomaybe
11-17-2022, 04:36 PM
Ever talk to people who live in China? I have an get a different answer on citizen satisfaction.
I think a Chinese citizen who was not careful of what they said to whom would be very misguided and perhaps sent somewhere to think about it
jimjamuser
11-17-2022, 04:37 PM
Rich1.......maybe when Putin is dead....and most likely not in our lifetime
If Putin were dead or overthrown and a true democracy replaced the dictatorship, then Russia would be a STRONGER country than it is today country, not WEAKER. That could possibly happen. The question is what system will dominate, not which country in the future.
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