Leesburg Selling More Land to The Villages

[champion6]

Leesburg selling an additional 515 acres to The Villages for more houses and retail expansion

Leesburg selling an additional 515 acres to The Villages for more houses and retail expansion - Leesburg-News.com (https://www.leesburg-news.com/2022/11/20/leesburg-agrees-to-sell-515-5-acres-to-the-villages-for-major-expansion/)

[shut the front door]

Those lucky Dabney residents are going to love that smell from the treatment facility!

[tophcfa]

Those lucky Dabney residents are going to love that smell from the treatment facility!

I think there is a song about that which goes something like:

Turnpike noise to the left of me, stink to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle pee u

[Chi-Town]

Downtown Leesburg may become the fifth Town Square.

[ThirdOfFive]

My wife was opining this morning that within 20 years, Orlando could become a suburb of The Villages.

[Babubhat]

Lake County. No thanks

[kansasr]

With the estimated population growth of over 225,000 once the developer has developed all currently owned land, The Villages will likely rank #6 in Florida, surpassing Cape Coral, Port St Lucie and Hialeah and just below St Petersburg

[Michael 61]

With the estimated population growth of over 225,000 once the developer has developed all currently owned land, The Villages will likely rank #6 in Florida, surpassing Cape Coral, Port St Lucie and Hialeah and just below St Petersburg

Maybe then, with that large of a population, we will finally earn ourselves a Costco!

[tophcfa]

Maybe then, with that large of a population, we will finally earn ourselves a Costco!

Na, a household consisting of two old people going shopping in a golf cart don’t do the mass quantity shopping that is Costco’s target market.

[Rwirish]

The kids just can not stop.

[gbs317]

The new capital of Florida will be The Villages.

[Fastskiguy]

Anybody have the link handy to the property they purchased?

Joe

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Leesburg selling an additional 515 acres to The Villages for more houses and retail expansion

Leesburg selling an additional 515 acres to The Villages for more houses and retail expansion - Leesburg-News.com (https://www.leesburg-news.com/2022/11/20/leesburg-agrees-to-sell-515-5-acres-to-the-villages-for-major-expansion/)


Hmm, let's see: 515 acres should mean about 5,150 homes.

[Djean1981]

Those lucky Dabney residents are going to love that smell from the treatment facility!
So, it starts immediately. Lol

[FredJacobs]

This past June, in a trial against former agents of Properties of the Villages, a member of the Morse/Boone family testified that TV will double its size within 10-years.

[Michael 61]

Na, a household consisting of two old people going shopping in a golf cart don’t do the mass quantity shopping that is Costco’s target market.

You are probably correct - still hoping though - Clermont is not that far away from my village, and I can stock up by just making quarterly visits to Costco - though it would be nice if they were closer, so I could purchase their $4.99 roasted chicken on a weekly basis.

[njbchbum]

The kids just can not stop.

What do Developers do if not develop?

How do they earn money to support themselves, their families, their employees, their contractors/sub-contractors and suppliers?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You are probably correct - still hoping though - Clermont is not that far away from my village, and I can stock up by just making quarterly visits to Costco - though it would be nice if they were closer, so I could purchase their $4.99 roasted chicken on a weekly basis. Walking into a big box store to purchase a $4.99 chicken instead of going into Publix has always been high on my list of things to do

[Altavia]

The kids just can not stop.

Because ≈10,000 people are retiring every day.

Roughly 100 a week buy here.

[kkingston57]

Maybe then, with that large of a population, we will finally earn ourselves a Costco!

Hopefully, but TV will turn into a northern suburb of Orlando. Will never happen, but a nearer airport would be great.

[mlmarr]

Maybe then, with that large of a population, we will finally earn ourselves a Costco!

Cosco is owned by Target.. go to the website and ask them ..
enough of the big box stores..

[ElDiabloJoe]

Cosco is owned by Target.. go to the website and ask them ..
enough of the big box stores..

I do not think that is correct. Target is owned by Dayton, the old Dayton-Hudson Company. Costco is owned by Costco Companies, which was a merger between old big-box discounters Price Club (formerly Pace) and Costco.

Now, what you are probably referring to is that they are both invested in by a few of the same investment firms. Blackrock Fund Advisors, the Fidelity 500 Index and Vanguard are both big share holders (holding some 14 Million shares of Target and 13 Billion shares of Costco.

Source: Does Target Own Costco In 2022? (Not What You Think…) (https://querysprout.com/does-target-own-costco/)

[GPGuar]

It will never stop as long as Wildwood and Leesburg keep selling off their land and changing their zoning to allow housing development. They want the taxes and revenue! Can’t really blame the developers, that’s what they do. We need a two year moratorium on building so infrastructure can catch up.

[Stu from NYC]

Cosco is owned by Target.. go to the website and ask them ..
enough of the big box stores..

Sorry you are wrong.

[Altavia]

It will never stop as long as Wildwood and Leesburg keep selling off their land and changing their zoning to allow housing development. They want the taxes and revenue! Can’t really blame the developers, that’s what they do. We need a two year moratorium on building so infrastructure can catch up.


It's not just the developer.

What do you propose to replace the incremental two billion in taxable property per year and lost the jobs of thousands of construction workers lost during that moratorium?

[Laker14]

Maybe then, with that large of a population, we will finally earn ourselves a Costco!

If you really want to be near a Costco, wait a few years and you can buy into a new TV village that will be built in near proximity to one of the Costco stores already built.

[Kenswing]

If you really want to be near a Costco, wait a few years and you can buy into a new TV village that will be built in near proximity to one of the Costco stores already built.

The way it’s going The Villages might hit Claremont right around the time their Costco is being completed.

[Priebehouse]

You are probably correct - still hoping though - Clermont is not that far away from my village, and I can stock up by just making quarterly visits to Costco - though it would be nice if they were closer, so I could purchase their $4.99 roasted chicken on a weekly basis.

Fresh Market chicken is better than Costco. :jester:

[Petersweeney]

I’d rather have cheap eggs than a cheap roaster…

[jimkerr]

The Villages already owns enough land to grow to close to 500,000 residents. We will continue to grow for a long time to come.

[Michael G.]

With the estimated population growth of over 225,000 once the developer has developed all currently owned land, The Villages will likely rank #6 in Florida, surpassing Cape Coral, Port St Lucie and Hialeah and just below St Petersburg

Especially is Florida's coastline property keeps eroding. :eek:

[Kelevision]

Let’s see what’s allowed….. “The Villages has not set a use for the property, but would consider development like commercial, industrial or even residential, depending on what is allowed”.

[Djean1981]

Cosco is owned by Target.. go to the website and ask them ..
enough of the big box stores..
I have emailed them, and received no reply..

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The Villages, formerly known as Florida.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Since the turnpike is a north south road I assume that they mean east of the turnpike. Is this down off of 470?

[Altavia]

Since the turnpike is a north south road I assume that they mean east of the turnpike. Is this down off of 470?

Yes

[kansasr]

The Villages already owns enough land to grow to close to 500,000 residents. We will continue to grow for a long time to come.

Hardly. The average The Villages owns south of CR 470 in Sumter and Lake would mean somewhere between 200,000 and 225,000, based up their building densities in the past.

[OhioBuckeye]

Oh no, this doesn’t sound good already!

[justjim]

Walking into a big box store to purchase a $4.99 chicken instead of going into Publix has always been high on my list of things to do

Best reply yet as to not have a Costco.

[JMintzer]

The Villages already owns enough land to grow to close to 500,000 residents. We will continue to grow for a long time to come.

Pretty sure it's a little less that 1/2 that number...

[Fastskiguy]

Yes

Thanks for the picture :) That location is right along the turnpike but will be close to the UF medical area and leesburg too. Hop on the turnpike and you're at orlando international in like an hour. I think it's great!

Joe

[golfnut]

Not sure why so many are fixated on the size of the villages, we've been here 18 years, I venture roughly 8 miles from my house for 3 town squares and 15 executive golf courses, it could go to 250,000 houses and it wouldn't effect anything I do.

[RedChariot]

the kids just can not stop.


truth!!!!

[Kenswing]

The kids just can not stop.

And why would they? Like it or not this area is growing. The developer has been here for 30 or so years. Has a vested interest in the success of The Villages and surrounding communities. If “The Developer” didn’t continue to build someone else would step in to fill the gap.

There aren’t too many outfits around that could handle the scope of what developing here entails. So you’d end up with a mishmash of disjointed communities by different developers resulting even more urban sprawl than we’re seeing now. At least with this developer we pretty much know what we’re going to get. We know the type of amenities that come with a new neighborhood.
The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.

[Laker]

And why would they? Like it or not this area is growing. The developer has been here for 30 or so years. Has a vested interest in the success of The Villages and surrounding communities. If “The Developer” didn’t continue to build someone else would step in to fill the gap.

There aren’t too many outfits around that could handle the scope of what developing here entails. So you’d end up with a mishmash of disjointed communities by different developers resulting even more urban sprawl than we’re seeing now. At least with this developer we pretty much know what we’re going to get. We know the type of amenities that come with a new neighborhood.
The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.
Smartest comment of the thread…

[JGibson]

Let's see how many golf course they build out of that 500 acres. Folks down south are already having to go north to play.

[asianthree]

Let's see how many golf course they build out of that 500 acres. Folks down south are already having to go north to play.

So how many times a week do you “Go North to play golf? For you what is North. We travel to the farthest point north to south and any course in between, to play. We find the older one is the closer they stay to home. Guess we aren’t there yet.

[Oldragbagger]

Since the turnpike is a north south road I assume that they mean east of the turnpike. Is this down off of 470?
The turnpike runs north and south but also east and west across the state, Ocala to Fort Lauderdale.

[JGibson]

So how many times a week do you “Go North to play golf? For you what is North. We travel to the farthest point north to south and any course in between, to play. We find the older one is the closer they stay to home. Guess we aren’t there yet.
Point being that they haven't had a consistent ratio of homes to golf courses as of late. There is so many more golf courses north of 466a to 44. I personally don't care and live next to Palmer where golf courses are plenty full but I run into many folks complaining about the lack of golf courses south of 466a.
I just wouldn't want to see a situation where golf courses become a real challenge to get tee times because of overcrowding because of lack of courses.

[Altavia]

Let's see how many golf course they build out of that 500 acres. Folks down south are already having to go north to play.

Most recent updates of new golf in work and planned South of 44.

Continuing The Dream: Volume 15 (https://www.nxtbook.com/thevillages/TheVillages/ContinuingTheDream_Vol15/index.php#/p/1)

[Altavia]

Deleted duplicate post.

[Altavia]

Point being that they haven't had a consistent ratio of homes to golf courses as of late. There is so many more golf courses north of 466a to 44. I personally don't care and live next to Palmer where golf courses are plenty full but I run into many folks complaining about the lack of golf courses south of 466a.
I just wouldn't want to see a situation where golf courses become a real challenge to get tee times because of overcrowding because of lack of courses.

Not correct.

[JMintzer]

And why would they? Like it or not this area is growing. The developer has been here for 30 or so years. Has a vested interest in the success of The Villages and surrounding communities. If “The Developer” didn’t continue to build someone else would step in to fill the gap.

There aren’t too many outfits around that could handle the scope of what developing here entails. So you’d end up with a mishmash of disjointed communities by different developers resulting even more urban sprawl than we’re seeing now. At least with this developer we pretty much know what we’re going to get. We know the type of amenities that come with a new neighborhood.
The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.

Truth...

Thank goodness they didn't stop after building the "Historic Section", or all those people complaining about the newer sections wouldn't have a place to live....

[JMintzer]

Let's see how many golf course they build out of that 500 acres. Folks down south are already having to go north to play.

Surely you're aware of the multiple championship and executive courses under construction and planned to be built south of 44, right?

[Hardlyworking]

Let's see how many golf course they build out of that 500 acres. Folks down south are already having to go north to play.

I see plenty of people heading south of 44 to play golf. Get over it. They all belong to everyone.

[tophcfa]

Point being that they haven't had a consistent ratio of homes to golf courses as of late. There is so many more golf courses north of 466a to 44. I personally don't care and live next to Palmer where golf courses are plenty full but I run into many folks complaining about the lack of golf courses south of 466a.
I just wouldn't want to see a situation where golf courses become a real challenge to get tee times because of overcrowding because of lack of courses.

That’s why Southern Oaks is the most expensive Championship course despite being rather mediocre relative to most of the other courses. The supply demand balance is way different in the newer areas. And don’t fool yourself, the new championship golf planned will still result in a much lower ratio of golf holes to homes in the newer areas.

[kansasr]

Most recent updates of new golf in work and planned South of 44.

Continuing The Dream: Volume 15 (https://www.nxtbook.com/thevillages/TheVillages/ContinuingTheDream_Vol15/index.php#/p/1)


And yes, right now, we are low on championship courses down here, but not for long.

[asianthree]

Point being that they haven't had a consistent ratio of homes to golf courses as of late. There is so many more golf courses north of 466a to 44. I personally don't care and live next to Palmer where golf courses are plenty full but I run into many folks complaining about the lack of golf courses south of 466a.
I just wouldn't want to see a situation where golf courses become a real challenge to get tee times because of overcrowding because of lack of courses.

My grandfather and father were avid golfers, we play 5 plus days a week, prior to retirement.

Our children, all medical, play when they visit TV, and rarely back home.

Only one grand plays golf, and that to stay level with the other med students. They are more interested in physical sports, long distance biking, running, and swimming. So no worries as herds thin, there will be more tee times available

[Papa_lecki]

Truth...

Thank goodness they didn't stop after building the "Historic Section", or all those people complaining about the newer sections wouldn't have a place to live....

Or anything to complain about.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Point being that they haven't had a consistent ratio of homes to golf courses as of late. There is so many more golf courses north of 466a to 44. I personally don't care and live next to Palmer where golf courses are plenty full but I run into many folks complaining about the lack of golf courses south of 466a.
I just wouldn't want to see a situation where golf courses become a real challenge to get tee times because of overcrowding because of lack of courses.

That's okay. It has been well documented that the current generations younger than boomers prefer walking paths, cycling, long distance running, and other individual cardio activities. That explains why The Developer is building more pathways and fewer golf courses in the growing and expanding areas of The Villages.

Golf is generally believed to be, overall, a dying activity. It will probably never die, but a significant waning has occurred in recent decades.

Is Golf A Dying Sport? [The Answer May Surprise You] – Prime Putters (https://primeputters.com/is-golf-a-dying-sport/)

Golf'''s Decline: 5 Reason Why Golf Is a Dying Sport | Money (https://money.com/golf-dying-tiger-woods-elitist/)

While golf is enjoying a slight, pandenic-fueled resurgence, the overall trajectory has been significant decline, as illustrated in the graph below:

https://www.zippia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/number-of-us-golf-participants-over-time.jpg

[Altavia]

That's okay. It has been well documented that the current generations younger than boomers prefer walking paths, cycling, long distance running, and other individual cardio activities. That explains why The Developer is building more pathways and fewer golf courses in the growing and expanding areas of The Villages.

Golf is generally believed to be, overall, a dying activity. It will probably never die, but a significant waning has occurred in recent decades.

Is Golf A Dying Sport? [The Answer May Surprise You] – Prime Putters (https://primeputters.com/is-golf-a-dying-sport/)

Golf'''s Decline: 5 Reason Why Golf Is a Dying Sport | Money (https://money.com/golf-dying-tiger-woods-elitist/)

While golf is enjoying a slight, pandenic-fueled resurgence, the overall trajectory has been significant decline, as illustrated in the graph below:

https://www.zippia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/number-of-us-golf-participants-over-time.jpg

New golf course development is booming in Florida again

New golf course development is booming in Florida again (https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/new-golf-courses-florida-development-boom)

[Normal]

The area is located right next to a turnpike exit and adjacent to the Villages while being zoned commercial. This is a great move for both residents striving for more commercial development and business owners. It will get a lot of commerce traffic.

[Fastskiguy]

Yes

The area is located right next to a turnpike exit and adjacent to the Villages while being zoned commercial. This is a great move for both residents striving for more commercial development and business owners. It will get a lot of commerce traffic.

That will be really handy. I mean....have you driven thru Newell? It's a long way from anywhere except Sawgrass but if some retail crops up in that location it'll be super sweet.

Joe

[Altavia]

That will be really handy. I mean....have you driven thru Newell? It's a long way from anywhere except Sawgrass but if some retail crops up in that location it'll be super sweet.

Joe

It's all relative, Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart.

We're retired, what's the rush?

[golfing eagles]

It's all relative, Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart.

We're retired, what's the rush?

Sawgrass to Brownwood in 6 minutes??????

Your cart must go 55 mph

[Kenswing]

It's all relative, Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart.

We're retired, what's the rush?

From Sawgrass to Brownwood is twelve minutes by car. If you can do it in six minutes by cart you must have wings. lol

[Aloha1]

Fresh Market chicken is better than Costco. :jester:

Costco fresh chicken is $3.49 a pound. 50 cents cheaper than Fresh Market.

[golfing eagles]

Costco fresh chicken is $3.49 a pound. 50 cents cheaper than Fresh Market.

and???????

How about this----Aldi's canned corn is cheaper than Green Giant's

[Fastskiguy]

It's all relative, Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart.

We're retired, what's the rush?

Maybe you meant 16 minutes? I mean…..it’s a fair bit from sawgrass to brownwood. But you’re right, a lot less of a hurry these days :)

[Altavia]

Sawgrass to Brownwood in 6 minutes??????

Your cart must go 55 mph

Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart THAN FROM SAWGRASS.

[Fastskiguy]

Newell is less than 2 mi Sawgrass. So just 6 min longer to Brownwood by cart THAN FROM SAWGRASS.

Ah that makes a lot more sense

[Altavia]

Ah that makes a lot more sense

The original post was poorly worded.

People who don't live here (yet) may not have a feel for how close things are. Once your in a golf cart, a couple of miles is just few more minutes.