Why? Honest question…..

[Sportsguy1]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

[village dreamer]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?
and to lowes, walmart,restaunts and any place they can get away with.

[JSR22]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

How do you know they were not service dogs?

[JSR22]

and to lowes, walmart,restaunts and any place they can get away with.

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.

[Stu from NYC]

Some people think dogs are their children and most always be with them

[tophcfa]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Because a dog never gets angry with you or tells you what you can’t do.

[asianthree]

So at Marshals, dog in cart drinking water from a bowl owner took off the shelf. Lady told the manger I have to bring my dog everywhere if I don’t

“He will ignore me for a week, and refuse to be in the same room”.

Thinking dog is good, but owner should not be out by themselves, if she truly believes the dog would ignore her for a week. Bet if she missed one feeding, dog would be right beside her.

[Sportsguy1]

How do you know they were not service dogs?

Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

[Sportsguy1]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are -ermiied at the squares.

What does ‘ermiied’ mean???

[JSR22]

Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

You are incorrect. Service dogs are not required to wear a vest. Actually, most of the dogs wearing a vest are not service dogs. The owners buy them on the internet

[JSR22]

What does ‘ermiied’ mean???

allowed lol

[BrianL99]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?


Gee, this is a novel post & discussion. I don't think it's been brought up on this page, in at least a week or two.

& people bring their dogs, for the same reason people bring their grandchildren ... gets them out of the house, they get some exercise, they're not at home, playing video games and like my Mom always said when she was throwing me out of the house ... "the fresh air will do you good" !

[Sportsguy1]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.

I am not saying they are not allowed, I’m asking, seriously, what is the reasoning for bringing a large dog or any dog to an event that is elbow to elbow with people? Would love to hear the ‘why’ from people who actually do this….bring their dog to an event like Saturday night at Brownwood that thousands of people are at and there is limited space.

[Papa_lecki]

Gee, this is a novel post & discussion. I don't think it's been brought up on this page, in at least a week or two.

& people bring their dogs, for the same reason people bring their grandchildren ... gets them out of the house, they get some exercise, they're not at home, playing video games and like my Mom always said when she was throwing me out of the house ... "the fresh air will do you good" !

This is a good point. I believe, one of the benefits of The Villages, is getting out of the house, being active. Active could mean golfing, playing pickleball or walking around the square.
If taking Fido to the lighting ceremony gets Mrs Habberdashery (fictitious name) out of the house, then that’s good.

[Sportsguy1]

You are incorrect. Service dogs are not required to wear a vest. Actually, most of the dogs wearing a vest are not service dogs. The owners buy them on the internet

True….service dogs don’t HAVE to wear a vest identifying them as such but many do. Also you could tell they weren’t service dogs because they would get distracted, bark and their owner was allowing people to pet and talk to their dog. THAT is a pet not a service dog.

[airdote22]

See my best friend or I just want to pi## off others

[JSR22]

I am not saying they are not allowed, I’m asking, seriously, what is the reasoning for bringing a large dog or any dog to an event that is elbow to elbow with people? Would love to hear the ‘why’ from people who actually do this….bring their dog to an event like Saturday night at Brownwood that thousands of people are at and there is limited space.

Dog owners' choice. Not your business!

[JMintzer]

I am not saying they are not allowed, I’m asking, seriously, what is the reasoning for bringing a large dog or any dog to an event that is elbow to elbow with people? Would love to hear the ‘why’ from people who actually do this….bring their dog to an event like Saturday night at Brownwood that thousands of people are at and there is limited space.

Maybe it was their first time for the tree lighting event and they didn't know it would be "elbow to elbow", with thousands of people?

[JSR22]

True….service dogs don’t HAVE to wear a vest identifying them as such but many do. Also you could tell they weren’t service dogs because they would get distracted, bark and their owner was allowing people to pet and talk to their dog. THAT is a pet not a service dog.

he majority of the dogs wearing vests are not service dogs. Service dogs may be petted if the owner agrees. Get over it TV is dog friendly.

[bsloan1960]

What does ‘ermiied’ mean???

I the early days of The Internet people who jumped on posters for making spelling or grammar errors were called "Trolls"- Congratulations

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I am not saying they are not allowed, I’m asking, seriously, what is the reasoning for bringing a large dog or any dog to an event that is elbow to elbow with people? Would love to hear the ‘why’ from people who actually do this….bring their dog to an event like Saturday night at Brownwood that thousands of people are at and there is limited space.

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

[JSR22]

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

I have had dogs for 6byears and owned a dog business for a number of years. Your opinion and I disagree. I take my small dog and carry him. The loud music does not bother him! I feel badly for the older dog, but it is the owner's choice not yours! MYOB

[BrianL99]

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWsGB2emes

[JSR22]

Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

Thanks. You are totally correct!

[Garywt]

These are the same people that bring dogs to the stores and restaurants. Maybe people didn’t expect the crowds to be so large. We bring our small dog to the squares when we go for the music but we stay on the other side of the street. We love our dogs but have no problem leaving them in the house when we go someplace they shouldn’t be. I do not like seeing dogs in restaurants or store, generally sitting in a cart.

[manaboutown]

I have had dogs for 6byears and owned a dog business for a number of years. Your opinion and I disagree. I take my small dog and carry him. The loud music does not bother him! I feel badly for the older dog, but it is the owner's choice not yours! MYOB

How do you know? Have you asked your pooch?

[JoMar]

I have had dogs for 6byears and owned a dog business for a number of years. Your opinion and I disagree. I take my small dog and carry him. The loud music does not bother him! I feel badly for the older dog, but it is the owner's choice not yours! MYOB

MYOB.....might want to take that advice

[JSR22]

How do you know? Have you asked your pooch?

I can tell when he is uncomfortable.

[JSR22]

MYOB.....might want to take that advice

Since you know nothing about dogs MYOB!!!! You add nothing to the thread as usual!

[Velvet]

Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWsGB2emes

Dogs’ body language is easy to read if you are an interested observer. Loud sounds do hurt dog’s ears without question.

I just did an experiment with my cat; played Handel’s Messiah to him. When the instruments and singers hit a really high note, the cat lowered its ears. When the instruments played mid-range, the cat’s face relaxed. The cat showed me which pieces he liked to listen to.

[JSR22]

Dogs’ body language is easy to read if you are an interested observer. Loud sounds do hurt dog’s ears without question.

I just did an experiment with my cat; played Handel’s Messiah to him. When the instruments and singers hit a really high note, the cat lowered its ears. When the instruments played mid-range, the cat’s face relaxed. The cat showed me which pieces he liked to listen to.

Do not compare dogs to cats!

[Sportsguy1]

Dog owners' choice. Not your business!

Yes, it IS the dogs owners choice but you are missing my point totally. I am asking WHY ….WHY do dog owners bring their dog to an event that thousands of people are going to be jammed into a small roped off area? Give me the reasons you do it…..seriously….WHY do you?

[Velvet]

Do not compare dogs to cats!

Dogs are even more sensitive. My Welsh terrier can’t even stand listening to singing “Happy Birthday” without howling. And, I used to breed dogs too, American Staffs.

[JSR22]

Yes, it IS the dogs owners choice but you are missing my point totally. I am asking WHY ….WHY do dog owners bring their dog to an event that thousands of people are going to be jammed into a small roped off area? Give me the reasons you do it…..seriously….WHY do you?

My choice. I do not care about your opinion.

[manaboutown]

My choice. I do not care about your opinion.

Nor I about yours!

[manaboutown]

Dogs are even more sensitive. My Welsh terrier can’t even stand listening to singing “Happy Birthday” without howling. And, I used to breed dogs too, American Staffs.

Yes!

[JSR22]

Nor I about yours!

Back at you! NVA

[manaboutown]

Do not compare dogs to cats!

Why not?

[Sportsguy1]

My choice. I do not care about your opinion.

That is the difference between you and me then….I do care about your opinion and why you do it. I’m not trying to be argumentative here….I’m truly interested in why people bring their dog or dogs to events where there are a lot of people. If your only reason is because ‘it’s my choice and I choose to do it’ then so be it but it seems like there are other reasons people do and I’m interested in knowing why. Educate me on this. I have a dog and I would never take him to an event like Saturday night at brownwood and truly want to know the reasoning why people do. Carry on.

[manaboutown]

Back at you! NVA

Actually I have no dog in this fight as I own no pets. I do realize dogs are not people and may not enjoy what people do, loud music, crowds other things. After all, they are canines, not primates.

[Pairadocs]

and to lowes, walmart,restaunts and any place they can get away with.

Like many replies, NOT a dog "hater", had many, treated them all very VERY well but.... I don't know if there has just been a huge "shift" in a very subtle area, but the lines have seemed to become more and more blurred (between human and pets, particularly dogs) in the last decade or so. I can't think of a better home than my parents provided for my dog(s)(had several growing up), mindful of their health, need to play, exercise, attention and touch (petting, ear rubbing), but (and this is difficult to adequately portray) never have I met so many people who seem to not even recognize a line between a human and an animal. I (sadly) will use an example of a dear relative. I want to make clear, no, this person absolutely is not in dementia or pre-dementia, but many reading this will think my family and I are just in denial, so be it. This relative just retired and is still actively teaching on a major campus, he retired about two years ago. The dog absolutely must go everywhere with them, everywhere. In our phone conversations and emails, she tell me " we want to go to ___ but ___ (the dog !) was just maddening, he pouted, he whined, he made us feel so guilty we just stayed home !" So if you are reading this, at this point you are saying, "she's demented of course". But it gets worse, since she is still teaching some classes, her husband is now in charge of the "play dates" for ___ (dog), driving him to and from the play dates with his friends. They are not in need of finances, but said they did "reschedule" a planned canal cruise in '23, until '24 because ___ (dog) dental bills were absolutely astronomical. It has just become a way of talking for here, "I am almost done with my Christmas shopping, such a relief, except for a few more things for ____(dog). He has way too many coats and sweaters now, but, he was shopping with me at ___ just to get his dog food and he kept going to this one "toy" and a sweatshirt that he just loved, and when I said, no, no treats today, he just got so stubborn I had to pick him up, NO easy task as you know, and literally carry him out."
This goes on all the time, taking about having to get his present to take to his friend's (other dog) birthday party ! These people don't even go out to dinner with friends and leave the dog home ! Amazing, they will eat at their local country club (not in Florida) on the patio because they don't want to deal with the dog's anger, upset, pouting, or punishing if they leave him. People in their social and professional circles would never dream they had such a "mental" problem (a dog who rules their life... they THINK !) And yes, they have three, grown, well adjusted, very successful children so they once KNEW the difference. The money they spend because (dog) must fly in coach or they can't go anywhere.... is it something in the water, they are not the only people like this. When we went from companion dogs for the disabled, to "emotional" support dogs, something happened in this world ! ? Saw one eating at a table from same dishes human customers eat at in a village restaurant... never went back... I know the dishes are sterilized, I know in my rational mind, but it's just too much to sit and have animals sitting like humans consuming from the same table. Oh will I get hate for that... oh well, won't change that I DO love animals and always have, but I know they differ from humans, that's all.

[manaboutown]

Like many replies, NOT a dog "hater", had many, treated them all very VERY well but.... I don't know if there has just been a huge "shift" in a very subtle area, but the lines have seemed to become more and more blurred (between human and pets, particularly dogs) in the last decade or so. I can't think of a better home than my parents provided for my dog(s)(had several growing up), mindful of their health, need to play, exercise, attention and touch (petting, ear rubbing), but (and this is difficult to adequately portray) never have I met so many people who seem to not even recognize a line between a human and an animal. I (sadly) will use an example of a dear relative. I want to make clear, no, this person absolutely is not in dementia or pre-dementia, but many reading this will think my family and I are just in denial, so be it. This relative just retired and is still actively teaching on a major campus, he retired about two years ago. The dog absolutely must go everywhere with them, everywhere. In our phone conversations and emails, she tell me " we want to go to ___ but ___ (the dog !) was just maddening, he pouted, he whined, he made us feel so guilty we just stayed home !" So if you are reading this, at this point you are saying, "she's demented of course". But it gets worse, since she is still teaching some classes, her husband is now in charge of the "play dates" for ___ (dog), driving him to and from the play dates with his friends. They are not in need of finances, but said they did "reschedule" a planned canal cruise in '23, until '24 because ___ (dog) dental bills were absolutely astronomical. It has just become a way of talking for here, "I am almost done with my Christmas shopping, such a relief, except for a few more things for ____(dog). He has way too many coats and sweaters now, but, he was shopping with me at ___ just to get his dog food and he kept going to this one "toy" and a sweatshirt that he just loved, and when I said, no, no treats today, he just got so stubborn I had to pick him up, NO easy task as you know, and literally carry him out."
This goes on all the time, taking about having to get his present to take to his friend's (other dog) birthday party ! These people don't even go out to dinner with friends and leave the dog home ! Amazing, they will eat at their local country club (not in Florida) on the patio because they don't want to deal with the dog's anger, upset, pouting, or punishing if they leave him. People in their social and professional circles would never dream they had such a "mental" problem (a dog who rules their life... they THINK !) And yes, they have three, grown, well adjusted, very successful children so they once KNEW the difference. The money they spend because (dog) must fly in coach or they can't go anywhere.... is it something in the water, they are not the only people like this. When we went from companion dogs for the disabled, to "emotional" support dogs, something happened in this world ! ? Saw one eating at a table from same dishes human customers eat at in a village restaurant... never went back... I know the dishes are sterilized, I know in my rational mind, but it's just too much to sit and have animals sitting like humans consuming from the same table. Oh will I get hate for that... oh well, won't change that I DO love animals and always have, but I know they differ from humans, that's all.

Yes! Many people anthropomorphize their dogs and cats, treating them like children. Very sad, even sick. Let's hope it does not extend to their goldfish next.

I have experienced dogs as pets since I was born. They are dogs, wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

[Pairadocs]

Some people think dogs are their children and most always be with them

That IS the case with relatives I wrote about on this thread. The are lovely, educated, people who are not "slipping" mentally so to speak, but kids are raised, doing very well, and the dog now rules (actually rules !) their lives because they are able to cast HUMAN emotions onto the dog, and rationalize (I suppose) what they can and can't do, again projecting it on the dog.

[Pairadocs]

Yes! Many people anthropomorphize their dogs and cats, treating them like children. Very sad, even sick. Let's hope it does not extend to their goldfish next.

I have experienced dogs as pets since I was born. They are dogs, wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

So true, so true, double thumbs up.... Have relatives in which this condition (anthropomorphic, projecting) is getting worse month by month. Like you, had many, wonderful, loving, pets, treated them well, fed them well, took care of their basic health... but constant new clothes, throwing "fits" in stores when they don't get a new coat, buying them boots (rain and snow), new clothes for their Christmas picture ON Santa's lap, obsessing over find the perfect birthday gift for the dog's best friends.... it's like they are actually living IN "The secret life of Pets" movie. What ever makes people happy I guess... these relatives don't play golf, so underneath it all, I am sure they marvel that we could spend so much time and money trying to hit a little ball all over many acres and into a tiny hole. LOL !

[LAFwUs]

I was in Home depot one day and a rather large discussion was taking place on the corner of a main isle. Customers & Employees.

It seems that down at the end of the Isle was a teenage girl who had brought her "support kangaroo" into the store.
I peeked and yep, there it was, bounding around on a yellow leash...

So, dogs or no dogs, at least we don't have "service/support" Kangaroos, Zebras, Camels, Aligators or Yeti's arriving in the squares....well not yet anyway!
:0000000000luvmyhors

[Bonanza]

That is the difference between you and me then….I do care about your opinion and why you do it. I’m not trying to be argumentative here….I’m truly interested in why people bring their dog or dogs to events where there are a lot of people. If your only reason is because ‘it’s my choice and I choose to do it’ then so be it but it seems like there are other reasons people do and I’m interested in knowing why. Educate me on this. I have a dog and I would never take him to an event like Saturday night at brownwood and truly want to know the reasoning why people do. Carry on.

Perhaps I can give you a reason . . . We have a dog . . . a very large dog. If we had taken her to Brownwood that night with that amount of people, truthfully, we would have left. I don't think it would have been fair to anyone, dog included, to be in such a mob scene with a dog. I think it is selfish to bring a dog to a wall-to-wall people event and regardless of what a person's reasoning is, it is wrong.

However, we will take her to Lowe's or Home Depot because they do permit dogs. We will go to a square at night to listen to the music. We will sit in the back or somewhere where she doesn't interfere with the crowd, but if it is somewhat crowded, we move further out. Our main reason for taking our dog to people places is for exposure to different places, sounds/noises, people, etc. In other words it is to socialize her and give her exposure so she doesn't get spooked (we hope) to different places and things.

Unfortunately, I do not think our reasoning is the same as others; I can't account for what others do and very often I am tempted to say something, but don't.

[mikempp]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Why do you bring your wife or kids? If the dogs are permitted it simply is none or your business. Why so many old folk have to be so bossy?

[BrianL99]

Dogs’ body language is easy to read if you are an interested observer. Loud sounds do hurt dog’s ears without question.

I just did an experiment with my cat; played Handel’s Messiah to him. When the instruments and singers hit a really high note, the cat lowered its ears. When the instruments played mid-range, the cat’s face relaxed. The cat showed me which pieces he liked to listen to.

Would you mind having your CAT peruse this week's scheduled entertainment at Sumter Landing Square, so I know which bands my DOG will like?

[BrianL99]

Like many replies, NOT a dog "hater", had many, treated them all very VERY well but.... I don't know if there has just been a huge "shift" in a very subtle area, but the lines have seemed to become more and more blurred (between human and pets, particularly dogs) in the last decade or so. I can't think of a better home than my parents provided for my dog(s)(had several growing up), mindful of their health, need to play, exercise, attention and touch (petting, ear rubbing), but (and this is difficult to adequately portray) never have I met so many people who seem to not even recognize a line between a human and an animal. I (sadly) will use an example of a dear relative. I want to make clear, no, this person absolutely is not in dementia or pre-dementia, but many reading this will think my family and I are just in denial, so be it. This relative just retired and is still actively teaching on a major campus, he retired about two years ago. The dog absolutely must go everywhere with them, everywhere. In our phone conversations and emails, she tell me " we want to go to ___ but ___ (the dog !) was just maddening, he pouted, he whined, he made us feel so guilty we just stayed home !" So if you are reading this, at this point you are saying, "she's demented of course". But it gets worse, since she is still teaching some classes, her husband is now in charge of the "play dates" for ___ (dog), driving him to and from the play dates with his friends. They are not in need of finances, but said they did "reschedule" a planned canal cruise in '23, until '24 because ___ (dog) dental bills were absolutely astronomical. It has just become a way of talking for here, "I am almost done with my Christmas shopping, such a relief, except for a few more things for ____(dog). He has way too many coats and sweaters now, but, he was shopping with me at ___ just to get his dog food and he kept going to this one "toy" and a sweatshirt that he just loved, and when I said, no, no treats today, he just got so stubborn I had to pick him up, NO easy task as you know, and literally carry him out."
This goes on all the time, taking about having to get his present to take to his friend's (other dog) birthday party ! These people don't even go out to dinner with friends and leave the dog home ! Amazing, they will eat at their local country club (not in Florida) on the patio because they don't want to deal with the dog's anger, upset, pouting, or punishing if they leave him. People in their social and professional circles would never dream they had such a "mental" problem (a dog who rules their life... they THINK !) And yes, they have three, grown, well adjusted, very successful children so they once KNEW the difference. The money they spend because (dog) must fly in coach or they can't go anywhere.... is it something in the water, they are not the only people like this. When we went from companion dogs for the disabled, to "emotional" support dogs, something happened in this world ! ? Saw one eating at a table from same dishes human customers eat at in a village restaurant... never went back... I know the dishes are sterilized, I know in my rational mind, but it's just too much to sit and have animals sitting like humans consuming from the same table. Oh will I get hate for that... oh well, won't change that I DO love animals and always have, but I know they differ from humans, that's all.

Your "dear relative" seems to have way more psychological issues than most dogs. If they're so "dear", perhaps you should arrange for them to get some professional help?

[Blackbird45]

I love dogs they're good companions and they're loyal, but people do not own dogs. Dogs own people. My neighbor could not leave their dog home when they went out because when they got home there would be a surprise.

[banjobob]

I agree with this post , pets should not be included in crowded situations , big dogs I agree could be seen but some unthinking pet owners bring small dogs on a leash to crowded venues which in my opinion is begging for your beloved pet to be injured. Most of all leave your dogs at home ! Nobody enjoys your dog.

[Worldseries27]

why do you bring your wife or kids? If the dogs are permitted it simply is none or your business. Why so many old folk have to be so bossy?
never saw a class of people dragging their animals everywhere other humans are congregating. How bout a local farmer brings his herd to brownwood. This cry for narcissisic attention is beyond the pale. I think the next time any of these needy individuals are having say, open heart surgery, the whole medical team should bring their pets to watch daddy and mommy work with the room full of horses, pigs, chickens and cows
if its a dental treatment leave the chickens home bring the rest.
This did not happen in our society till the 90's.
There has to be a showdown in congress. These are people infringing on our rights to the pursuit of happiness. Some constitutional lawyer should get crackin on it. Science officer spock speaking at the academy stated " the needs of the many outweigh those of the few. The villages should build them their own village and stores
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[Travelhunter123]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.
Does not answer the responders question

[Travelhunter123]

Some people think dogs are their children and most always be with them

Children grow up, so do some parents

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Because dog make better companions than most people.

[Travelhunter123]

This is a good point. I believe, one of the benefits of The Villages, is getting out of the house, being active. Active could mean golfing, playing pickleball or walking around the square.
If taking Fido to the lighting ceremony gets Mrs Habberdashery (fictitious name) out of the house, then that’s good.

Is it good for the rest of the people on the square?

[Travelhunter123]

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

Wry well said

[Travelhunter123]

I have had dogs for 6byears and owned a dog business for a number of years. Your opinion and I disagree. I take my small dog and carry him. The loud e music does not bother him!ensitiv I feel badly for the older dog, but it is the owner's choice not yours! ArMYOB

I think dogs do have sensitive ears, perhaps your dogs hearing is damaged from being subjected to loud music and crowds

[Pmota]

Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

Yes, most service dogs will have a vest or some type of ID to show they are working dogs.
No. Some animals don’t go through the service animal program but act/service the same way.
Here is the thing, not all Special needs are visible and not everyone can afford to put their dog through such training.
We know someone that got a Jack Russel pup for their son (anyone with such dog knows how full of energy they are); long story short - our friends wife started getting some issues and that dog got on her side 24/7, he would let her know when an attack was about to happen. This dog had not special training and if you look at my friends wife you see nothing wrong with her.
“Large dog” or small dog, if someone has one with them who are we to judge on why they have it? If the animal is well behaved, the owner has total control and feels like having them there, great.

[BoatRatKat]

Because a dog never gets angry with you or tells you what you can’t do.

And they never judge you for your choices or lecture or admonish you when they don't agree with your actions. We could all learn a lot from dogs.

[Byte1]

WHY? WHY? The simple answer is that some people are stupid and inconsiderate, either to their pets or to other folks around them. It's called, being selfish. I too love dogs, or actually just about any animal but keep it out of my yard and leave it at home when you go where there are a multitude of people. Need it as a service dog? Maybe you should see a professional or stay home where YOU are safe. No such thing as a "service dog" when I was growing up and folks still made it to a ripe old age.

[bonrich]

Its because the owner is supposed to take his/her dog for the nightly walk, but the owner wants to go to the square. Problem solved, take the dog, both owner and pet will have a wonderful time.

[Travelhunter123]

Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWsGB2emes

You don’t need to have an awakening from a previous life, my friend. A little education goes a long way. This should answer all your above questiond

National Geographic Kids Everything Dogs: All the Canine Facts, Photos, and Fun You Can readGet Your Paws On! https://a.co/d/6HTJmP0

[Travelhunter123]

My choice. I do not care about your opinion.

Another vote for Americas friendliest hometown

[Larchap49]

Gee, this is a novel post & discussion. I don't think it's been brought up on this page, in at least a week or two.

& people bring their dogs, for the same reason people bring their grandchildren ... gets them out of the house, they get some exercise, they're not at home, playing video games and like my Mom always said when she was throwing me out of the house ... "the fresh air will do you good" !

Then walk them around the block, take them to the dog park, take them on a nature trail. Your beloved dog will enjoy that alot more than being stuck on a leash surrounded by strangers. Did you ever consider the stress this causes an animal? Be real it's all about you not at all about the poor over stressed dog.

[Hendrick22]

An honest question deserves an honest answer - because they spent A LOT of money for these dogs and:
1-want to show them off
2-maybe get business for the breeder
3-conversation starters

[Miekies]

Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

Not legally required

[Chamo]

Service dogs do not need a vest to be a service dog. The owner would have an ID in their pocket so don’t assume they are not service dogs.

[Miekies]

That is the difference between you and me then….I do care about your opinion and why you do it. I’m not trying to be argumentative here….I’m truly interested in why people bring their dog or dogs to events where there are a lot of people. If your only reason is because ‘it’s my choice and I choose to do it’ then so be it but it seems like there are other reasons people do and I’m interested in knowing why. Educate me on this. I have a dog and I would never take him to an event like Saturday night at brownwood and truly want to know the reasoning why people do. Carry on.

Maybe you should have asked those people with the dogs at the time. Since you are not satisfied with random people who may or may not have a dog, who may or may not bring their dog somewhere.

You created a troll post

[defrey12]

THIS IS THE NOT QUESTION! The question is WHY do YOU bring them to 1) a place it DOES NOT WANT TO BE and 2) a place where others are NOT appreciative of YOUR animals! Why on earth these places allow animals is another discussion…a dog in a stroller? The World has gone bat*^%# crazy!

[Larchap49]

Why do you bring your wife or kids? If the dogs are permitted it simply is none or your business. Why so many old folk have to be so bossy?

If you are seriously comparing your wife and kids with your dogs you sir need professional help and I don't mean a support dog.

[Sandy and Ed]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.
Yes. I wonder why some folks make such a fuss over those establishments and venues that allow pets on the premises. Almost like talking politics and religion sometimes. .

[ThirdOfFive]

Maybe you should have asked those people with the dogs at the time. Since you are not satisfied with random people who may or may not have a dog, who may or may not bring their dog somewhere.

You created a troll post
Troll post? Dunno about that. It is a timely topic especially with the larg(er) crowds at the squares and other places now that the snowbirds are flooding in.

I have no problems with the people and their dogs that I've encountered thus far in TV. The dogs have all been well-mannered and obedient to their owners when I've encountered them in public places. But there is a dynamic here that so far has been ignored, and deserves discussion. TV may be "America's friendliest hometown" but it can also be an awfully lonely place, especially if you've just lost your spouse or have suffered other significant emotional setbacks. All of a sudden the person or situation you've depended on for social and emotional support is no longer there. All you have is your dog. Never (yet) having been in that situation myself this is only conjecture, but in my opinion it is entirely possible, if you're going out of your house shopping, to the squares or whatever, you take Fido along rather than being completely alone surrounded by crowds of strangers. Fido will love you and stay by your side no matter what.

It is hard to be old and alone.

[Lindaws]

No brains

[NoMo50]

You can lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car, and come back 4 hours later. Only the dog will be glad to see you!

[Sandy and Ed]

THIS IS THE NOT QUESTION! The question is WHY do YOU bring them to 1) a place it DOES NOT WANT TO BE and 2) a place where others are NOT appreciative of YOUR animals! Why on earth these places allow animals is another discussion…a dog in a stroller? The World has gone bat*^%# crazy!
Many residents live in houses without a fenced yard so outings with a pooch is necessary (besides the daily walk around the block). It also helps to better socialize the pet to come in contact with other folks. Finally with so many activities not many would like to leave the dog cooped up in the house all day. NOW, having said all this I agree with the OP that bring a dog to the square for this kind of event makes zero sense. Bad for the dog. Also extremely loud amped music can’t be enjoyable for the dog - maybe walking around the square - but probably not in the square. Just my opinion.

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

Here we go about the dogs again. First of dogs are allowed at the squares. And no I would not take my dog to a large crowd or a large event and no I do not take my dog everywhere with me, but I do take my dog out with me sometimes. And all of who do not like dogs and like to complain about dogs. why did you move here to The Villages that is pet friendly?
And not every pet owner is a good pet owner. We all know that. But there are people who like the wine hear about pets, no matter what they are good or bad or welcome or not. My suggestion is you should move out of the villages if you’re not pet friendly, or maybe go start your own village. But to move into a place that is pet friendly and bitch about pets is stupid. But I can only imagine that’s not the only thing you guys complain about.

[mikeycereal]

I too wonder if all the excitement is too much for the dog. The large b&w border collie I saw at Brownwood that night was just chilling lying down by the owners. Didn't look overwhelmed or if it was it somehow knew how to behave.

So I'll use an example of a friend and how she is with her dogs. Loves them to pieces and so do I since I love and enjoy animals. So when I visit them the dogs get positive attention when they aren't lying down chilling around us. I jokingly call them spoiled but they really are having a good doggie life. Friends tell her if they themselves ever came back as a dog they would want her for their owner.

So on taking them out of the house she may take them for a cart ride (making sure they're secure for the ride) and says her dogs love it. Takes them outside but not for long walks as they get plenty of exercise. Takes them to work (she's the owner) and her employees love them. Leaves them with dog sitters when out of state; they only fly if going to their alt homes.

But she would never ever take them to the store, a restaurant, or to one of the squares. Why, because it's a short trip (store) or her time with friends or family. The 2 dogs stay home in their enclosure and don't leave surprises because she makes sure to take them out to pee etc before. So when I watch how she handles her pets I notice that she enjoys time with them at home and enjoys time without them when she goes out to have fun and that's what I see as the right way to handle pets. Not ignoring them but not overdoing, just in the middle somewhere but giving dogs the benefit if they seem to want something like attention or food. Friends and family are welcome to come over and enjoy the dogs there when visiting.

I jokingly call her the dog whisperer because she knows how to connect with them. Was with her at a relative's house and the subject came up about their dog and how to get it to do certain things. She calmly goes over to the dog and connects with it and actually teaches it to roll over and it responds. We were amazed as she had only just met it.

Everyone has their own methods and dogs behaviors are different. Tell you what though I never saw a dog get fussy over not buying them something in a store like a kid... I would think owner is cuckoo. :loco:

[Sandy and Ed]

Troll post? Dunno about that. It is a timely topic especially with the larg(er) crowds at the squares and other places now that the snowbirds are flooding in.

I have no problems with the people and their dogs that I've encountered thus far in TV. The dogs have all been well-mannered and obedient to their owners when I've encountered them in public places. But there is a dynamic here that so far has been ignored, and deserves discussion. TV may be "America's friendliest hometown" but it can also be an awfully lonely place, especially if you've just lost your spouse or have suffered other significant emotional setbacks. All of a sudden the person or situation you've depended on for social and emotional support is no longer there. All you have is your dog. Never (yet) having been in that situation myself this is only conjecture, but in my opinion it is entirely possible, if you're going out of your house shopping, to the squares or whatever, you take Fido along rather than being completely alone surrounded by crowds of strangers. Fido will love you and stay by your side no matter what.

It is hard to be old and alone.
AMEN. Well said. Grow a little more empathy folks!!! Dogs fill voids in peoples lives. Children, grandchildren, spouses, whomever. Just ignore the pets. Turn away if they offend your eyes. Go back to whatever it is you do and leave the pet owner enjoy their interest

[Whitley]

Yes, it IS the dogs owners choice but you are missing my point totally. I am asking WHY ….WHY do dog owners bring their dog to an event that thousands of people are going to be jammed into a small roped off area? Give me the reasons you do it…..seriously….WHY do you?

Because they want to. They will meet like minded people there also with a dog. They want to give some stimulation to the dog (I'd imagine staying inside all day with a few brief trips to the yard can be boring). Perhaps they are socially awkward and the dog gives them confidence, having a dog with them leads to meeting new people who come up and ask about the dog.
Lots of reasons I can come up with. Ultimately it is their business, as long as they are not breaking any law or violating a private entities rules for its property. While we are on the topic, are dogs permitted in Publix? I would think not, yet I see store managers petting dogs in grocery carts inside the store.

[bragones]

Yes, it IS the dogs owners choice but you are missing my point totally. I am asking WHY ….WHY do dog owners bring their dog to an event that thousands of people are going to be jammed into a small roped off area? Give me the reasons you do it…..seriously….WHY do you?

My previous dog used to turn the other way when I brought him to a square, so I stopped taking him. My current dog pipes up with excitement/wagging and practically pulls me into a square as we approach, so I take him there for a 1/2 hour or so. You asked why....because it makes us both happy. If its a packed event, I would stay on the outskirts though.

[Veiragirl]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Forget the big dogs issue it's gonna happen. My problem is the huge amount of PEOPLE. We have lived here for 10 years and have gone to this event every year...except this one. We tried to find a parking spot for the golfcart and did. In front of MVP gym. Needless to say we didnt stay. Ever since the Villages built across 44 , the crowds at everything are really bad.

[GmaLisaG]

Maybe just plainly that they want to bring them. No rule against it and maybe they just don't want to leave the dog alone at home. Their choice. I have dogs and love them dearly and choose not to bring them. My choice. ❤️

[Whitley]

I have no pets. Want to get that out there. I am amazed at people who get so upset over a dog at the outside square. You do not need to know why the owner brings the dog. You can be curious, and if you wish, ask someone when you see it, but no one really needs to give anyone a reason. I guessed at a few reasons. They meet others at the square with similar views on dogs, they feel more comfortable having the dog with them, they are socially awkward and the dog helps with their stress, having a dog with them leads to meeting more people. Whatever reason they have, it is their reason. Not worth stressing over.

[kendi]

If its that important for you to know then ask them directly. We brought our dog everywhere for the first 3 or 4 days after arriving at our rental. Gave her time to acclimate to the new house and environment before leaving her alone. She had been abandoned by previous owners so this was especially important to do. After that, no more to the squares.

[Daxdog]

Why do you bring kids, especially babies in strollers, they don’t care!

[airstreamingypsy]

Dog owners' choice. Not your business!

Exactly...... these people. <rolls eyes> Wah wah wah..... I saw dogs at the squares.

[mjr0773]

“why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?”

To the OP, why do you direct this towards everyone who reads this post. I was there that night too. The vast majority of participants did not have a dog with them.

[manaboutown]

My son who resides in the Panhandle area of Idaho has a wonderful (and smart) Terrier mix small dog which loves running and playing outdoors in nature. It loves to chase squirrels more than anything else. I doubt that dog would enjoy loud music and crowds at the squares.

[PugMom]

See my best friend or I just want to pi## off others

dittos. we bring them to the squares so you could have something to complain about online. if no dogs were present, it would be 1 less thing for you to 'discuss' , leaving only little white crosses & ladies with clipboards. if you don't like it, well, you could always stay home, as it is not your decision to make. :spoken:

[Ptmckiou]

My guess is a couple of things. They are going to be gone longer than the dog can hold it’s pee, so they just take the dog with them and don’t have to worry about a timeline. Another reason is laziness. I know that sounds ridiculous. Dogs have to be walked and exercised. If they take the dog with them, it “kills too birds with one stone”. They then don’t have to do any extra walks when they get home, just to exercise their dog, so they just drag him along with them, since they were going to have to go so e where anyways. Thirdly, they prefer the company of their dog, to most humans, so it’s their “companion “.

[JSR22]

dittos. we bring them to the squares so you could have something to complain about online. if no dogs were present, it would be 1 less thing for you to 'discuss' , leaving only little white crosses & ladies with clipboards. if you don't like it, well, you could always stay home, as it is not your decision to make. :spoken:

Agree. TV s pet friendly. Not a great place to live if you dislike animals.

[airstreamingypsy]

I agree with this post , pets should not be included in crowded situations , big dogs I agree could be seen but some unthinking pet owners bring small dogs on a leash to crowded venues which in my opinion is begging for your beloved pet to be injured. Most of all leave your dogs at home ! Nobody enjoys your dog.

I enjoy their dogs, I enjoy all dogs. Your reasoning is invalid.

[PugMom]

My previous dog used to turn the other way when I brought him to a square, so I stopped taking him. My current dog pipes up with excitement/wagging and practically pulls me into a square as we approach, so I take him there for a 1/2 hour or so. You asked why....because it makes us both happy. If its a packed event, I would stay on the outskirts though.

as hard as it is to believe, this pug will sit on the bleachers or chairs in my lap, watching the activity & soaking up any attention given to her by passers-by or children. all of my dogs were highly socialized. even Pete the doberman who enjoyed firework displays on the Ct. river, & driving thru xmas light shows, head out the window, no anxiety ever, waiting for someone to pet him. all my dogs know what a drive-thru window is, too :ho:

[PersonOfInterest]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

I'd like to know WHY people go to events that are that overcrowded. Why do people go to Sports events? Why do people ride Motorcycles?

I don't see a reason for any of those, but obviously others do. Not everybody has you values or your sense of reason. People do what they think is right or in their best interest.

I could just as well ask "Why did you go to a Jam Packed people Event?" I certainly did not go, Why did you?

[BrianL99]

...

This did not happen in our society till the 90's.
There has to be a showdown in congress. These are people infringing on our rights to the pursuit of happiness. Some constitutional lawyer should get crackin on it.

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I'm thinking Congress will definitely take this up in the new session. What else do they have to do, that's more important?

[Zenmama18]

We left our medium-sized dog at home. Just too crowded and would be too stressful for her (and us!).

[chorndawg]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?
Were there any signs/rules that state "dogs not allowed" at this event? If so, then I can see why your curiosity was piqued. If not, then all I see in your post is your opinion...If it's allowed, what's the issue? You don't like it? Too bad
Wondering how many of these dogs were new to their families? If so, were they merely bringing the dogs to teach them socialization skills in public? Teaching them not to bark, or not to react to people. Not all dog training happens at home.
SMH...Must have been a slow day in the complaint department

[ex34449]

Why?... don't you ask one of the dogs owners? I go out there often with my dog. Never has anyone come up to me and asked for anything other than 'can I pet him'.
Why wouldn't you ask one of them in person instead of knocking them from behind a keyboard?

[ex34449]

wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

Yeah, thank God they're so much smarter.

[Dcadrette]

people bring their dogs, for the same reason people bring their grandchildren ... gets them out of the house, they get some exercise, they're not at home, playing video games and like my Mom always said when she was throwing me out of the house ... "the fresh air will do you good" ![/QUOTE]

I agree, people look at their animals as their grandchildren, plain and simple. Many times I have to stop and think did I move to a retirement community or a family community. so just think of the animals as their kids or grandchildren. They probably were there for maybe an hour did a walkabout and went home. But I understand the question. Almost every day I have to stop and think of why people do what they do without looking at their surrounding area.

[rsibole]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?


Giving human characteristics to animals, inanimate objects or natural phenomena is a human trait called “to anthropomorphize.” This condition is often exhibited by those who also suffer from cognitive dissonance. In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Just thought you might not be aware of these symptoms or recognize them when displayed.

[jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com]

Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

[JSR22]

Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

Service dogs are NOT REQUIRED to wear a vest!

[Velvet]

Would you mind having your CAT peruse this week's scheduled entertainment at Sumter Landing Square, so I know which bands my DOG will like?

Very sorry, cat has a difficult time reading…

[Byte1]

Were you a dog in a previous life?

How else would you know so much about how dogs feel and what they like? Are all breeds the same? Do all breeds like (& dislike) the same sort of music? Do they all hate 50's & 60's rock? Do some of them like Rap music or Techno?

How do you explain this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWsGB2emes

I rarely agree with Orange, but this post was right and I agree. I'll tell you how one knows about dogs. Experience and advice from experts. I've had dogs for decades and also trained them for the military. Professionals make it their business to know as much about a subject as possible.
Folks in the Villages are selfish in the manner they treat their pets. Yes, many animals love to ride in a car with their owner. Yes, animals love to go with their masters when they go ANYWHERE. That does not make it right. Some folks are allergic to animals and don't appreciate having your pet forced upon them. Some folks are scared of animals. Some folks do not want your pet sitting in a shopping cart where food is carried. Some animals do not enjoy loud music, large crowds, being stepped on, having a stranger pet them, etc. Most of that should be common sense, but some idiots have total disregard for their pets and just want them as a security blanket. Get a stuffed teddy bear.

[Sealvi]

Because a service dog has a vest on that says ‘service dog’ and none of these had on a vest.

News flash: All service dogs do not wear vests nor is there a requirement that mandates a service dog wearing a vest.

[airstreamingypsy]

So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

I'll give you the answer you're looking for. The answer is.... <drum roll> because I want to. (Actually I didn't bring my dog, I didn't even go, but I think I speak for the people who did)

[Drakeswood]

Why dogs of any size? Animals get anxious too. Of course I am biased b/c epi pens are expensive for folks like me with allergies. As the dog owners say “my rights”…but treading on mine as well!

[JMintzer]

I the early days of The Internet people who jumped on posters for making spelling or grammar errors were called "Trolls"- Congratulations

No, a spelling/gramma error is using "their" instead of "they're" or "there"...

Asking someone typing something that isn't even close to a word (which can happen if you use the "don't look" typing method and your fingers are out of place) is a simple request for clarification...

[JMintzer]

I have experienced dogs as pets since I was born. They are dogs, wonderful, delightful and lovable but they are not humans.

True... They are better than many humans... :laugh:

[JMintzer]

Another vote for Americas friendliest hometown

No less friendly than those who think they can psychoanalyze the problems of people who enjoy having their pets around...

[JMintzer]

THIS IS THE NOT QUESTION! The question is WHY do YOU bring them to 1) a place it DOES NOT WANT TO BE and 2) a place where others are NOT appreciative of YOUR animals! Why on earth these places allow animals is another discussion…a dog in a stroller? The World has gone bat*^%# crazy!

There are places NO ONE wants to see a dog. Some people just don't like them...

Not my problem...

And who are you to say what someone's dog does or doesn't like?

And strollers?

Dogs age, just like people. Those strollers can be like wheelchairs for them. If one is in a wheelchair, should they just be left at home? Especially if it's crowded?

[JMintzer]

If you are seriously comparing your wife and kids with your dogs you sir need professional help and I don't mean a support dog.

Where's the "America's Friendliest Hometown" guy?

Oh, right... He agrees with this, so it's okay...

[JMintzer]

You can lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car, and come back 4 hours later. Only the dog will be glad to see you!

I was just going to post that! :beer3:

[JMintzer]

Here we go about the dogs again. First of dogs are allowed at the squares. And no I would not take my dog to a large crowd or a large event and no I do not take my dog everywhere with me, but I do take my dog out with me sometimes. And all of who do not like dogs and like to complain about dogs. why did you move here to The Villages that is pet friendly?
And not every pet owner is a good pet owner. We all know that. But there are people who like the wine hear about pets, no matter what they are good or bad or welcome or not. My suggestion is you should move out of the villages if you’re not pet friendly, or maybe go start your own village. But to move into a place that is pet friendly and bitch about pets is stupid. But I can only imagine that’s not the only thing you guys complain about.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[JMintzer]

Why do you bring kids, especially babies in strollers, they don’t care!

They typically fall asleep...

We've brought our dog to the square on nights they've had loud bands.

We park right up against the square, listen to the music and out dog falls asleep between us...

Just like my kids did at outdoor concerts when they were babies...

[JMintzer]

My guess is a couple of things. They are going to be gone longer than the dog can hold it’s pee, so they just take the dog with them and don’t have to worry about a timeline. Another reason is laziness. I know that sounds ridiculous. Dogs have to be walked and exercised. If they take the dog with them, it “kills too birds with one stone”. They then don’t have to do any extra walks when they get home, just to exercise their dog, so they just drag him along with them, since they were going to have to go so e where anyways. Thirdly, they prefer the company of their dog, to most humans, so it’s their “companion “.

You guessed wrong...

[JMintzer]

Giving human characteristics to animals, inanimate objects or natural phenomena is a human trait called “to anthropomorphize.” This condition is often exhibited by those who also suffer from cognitive dissonance. In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Just thought you might not be aware of these symptoms or recognize them when displayed.

Thanks for the "WebMD" diagnosis, Dr Google...

[JMintzer]

Because service dogs are required to wear a vest that says service dog and most say do not pet

Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't reads the thread...

[CFrance]

I think it depends on the personality of the dog. We could take our golden to restaurants in Europe but rarely did so, unless it was outside. Most did not have a lot of room, and he struggled a bit to fit himself in. Even though the restaurants allowed it, we mostly left him at home, with a couple of exceptions. (He liked sitting outside for after-dinner wine.) We wouldn't take him into big crowds for his own safety.

Our rescue beagle mix is skittish around noises. So no go to any outdoor gathering with her. Walks and dog parks.
Most people know their dogs. If I saw a big dog in a crowded situation, I would assume the owner knows the dog is good in that situation, knows how he will act. Was that big dog the OP saw jumping up on people? Truly freaking out? Really, I've never seen a dog jump up on strangers in outdoor markets or other venues. I can't think of one time I've seen that. I give people credit.

As for anthropomorphizing pets, I have to mention this: we anthropomorphize many things, God included. So what. Does that mean we're crazy or something?

Finally... I may not always have a husband, but I WILL always have a dog. (Although at 52 years together, husband is pretty safe.)

[JMintzer]

I rarely agree with Orange, but this post was right and I agree. I'll tell you how one knows about dogs. Experience and advice from experts. I've had dogs for decades and also trained them for the military. Professionals make it their business to know as much about a subject as possible.
Folks in the Villages are selfish in the manner they treat their pets. Yes, many animals love to ride in a car with their owner. Yes, animals love to go with their masters when they go ANYWHERE. That does not make it right. Some folks are allergic to animals and don't appreciate having your pet forced upon them. Some folks are scared of animals. Some folks do not want your pet sitting in a shopping cart where food is carried. Some animals do not enjoy loud music, large crowds, being stepped on, having a stranger pet them, etc. Most of that should be common sense, but some idiots have total disregard for their pets and just want them as a security blanket. Get a stuffed teddy bear.

I sense a trend in your post..."Some"...

Some idiots want to turn "some" into "all"...

[JMintzer]

Why dogs of any size? Animals get anxious too. Of course I am biased b/c epi pens are expensive for folks like me with allergies. As the dog owners say “my rights”…but treading on mine as well!

Yes, just seeing a dog at a crowded event will cause someone to go into anaphylactic shock...

[Heytubes]

Difference between cats and dogs:
Dogs have masters and cats have staff.

[jmpalladino]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.

But the question is why would you bring a dog to such a large event? You did not answer the question posed by the OP.

[JSR22]

But the question is why would you bring a dog to such a large event? You did not answer the question posed by the OP.

People bring dogs to events because the events are dog friendly. It is the owner's decision to bring their pet.

[JMintzer]

But the question is why would you bring a dog to such a large event? You did not answer the question posed by the OP.

And multiple people have answered his question.

You may not like the answers given, and that's fine...

[jimmy o]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Because dogs are allowed and the owner can bring them if they want to. There does not need to be any other reason than they want to. The Villages is a very dog friendly place, that is one of the appeals of living here. A couple of reasons that might answer your question: "I love my dog and want to be with him"; "I love my dog and my dog loves me and she wants to be with me"; or one more.... "I want to annoy some people by bringing my dog." Any of these answers are reason enough to bring a dog to an event.

[ThirdOfFive]

I think it depends on the personality of the dog. We could take our golden to restaurants in Europe but rarely did so, unless it was outside. Most did not have a lot of room, and he struggled a bit to fit himself in. Even though the restaurants allowed it, we mostly left him at home, with a couple of exceptions. (He liked sitting outside for after-dinner wine.) We wouldn't take him into big crowds for his own safety.

Our rescue beagle mix is skittish around noises. So no go to any outdoor gathering with her. Walks and dog parks.
Most people know their dogs. If I saw a big dog in a crowded situation, I would assume the owner knows the dog is good in that situation, knows how he will act. Was that big dog the OP saw jumping up on people? Truly freaking out? Really, I've never seen a dog jump up on strangers in outdoor markets or other venues. I can't think of one time I've seen that. I give people credit.

As for anthropomorphizing pets, I have to mention this: we anthropomorphize many things, God included. So what. Does that mean we're crazy or something?

Finally... I may not always have a husband, but I WILL always have a dog. (Although at 52 years together, husband is pretty safe.)

Your dog liked wine?

Had a German Shepherd once who liked beer...

[Weiserj]

Most dogs are very social and if trained to behave, they have just as much a right to be there as you. So why don’t you just stay home if this bothers you so much. I currently don’t have a dog and I LOVE getting to greet and pet them all💗🤣

[Tripngirl]

Because a dog never gets angry with you or tells you what you can’t do.
Just saying…
1. Dogs don’t get drunk at events
2. Dogs don’t drive the golf carts into walls
3. Dogs are more handsome than most Villagers
4. Dogs are more behaved than certain Villagers
5. Dogs don’t save “spots” in the bleachers for their friends.
Just kidding….. happy holidays to all!

[Worldseries27]

saturday i was at the brownwood paddock square with some family and friends for the christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, i love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like i was at saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but i saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?
waiting for the article where someone gets bit, sues the owner for his village home and/ or the venue/ store for millions in pyschological damages. You'll really need your service dog then

[Pairadocs]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

Don't have a dog (been there done that many times, but wanted a retirement dog free life, selfish but, want to be able come and go with out so much responsibility. Since so many seem to give such, well, rather nasty type replies, I'll try to give you an honest answer. Have a cousin who takes her dog everywhere, and I mean everywhere, if you invite her to lunch at your home (and I have), you also get the dog. It goes to all the stores, she does take a pad she puts in the shopping buggy, and she constantly tells us how "even at stores that tend to discourage you from bringing your dog inside, just fall in love with our Hunter, they just flock to him everywhere we go". I have never understood why people would just flock to this dog as she always relates they do... it's not a small dog, medium mixed breed from a shelter, not "snippy", seems friendly enough when we're around him, but he's quite a load for a shopping cart or in a restaurant, etc. She claims HE will not allow her to go anywhere, even on a quick errand, without HIM or he pouts and is angry with her for several days ???? I gave up trying to figure it out. Apart from this odd behavior, she has NO other odd behaviors or talk ! ? All I can say is, from what we have observed in our home, in her home, and out at public events, she just firmly believes the dog IS AN ACTUAL HUMAN PERSON with the same range of emotions, desires, and demands ! ?

[Pairadocs]

I'm thinking Congress will definitely take this up in the new session. What else do they have to do, that's more important?

:agree: Not much that's for sure, well, they do seem to know how to spend other people's money very very well... both parties...LOL !

[Pairadocs]

I rarely agree with Orange, but this post was right and I agree. I'll tell you how one knows about dogs. Experience and advice from experts. I've had dogs for decades and also trained them for the military. Professionals make it their business to know as much about a subject as possible.
Folks in the Villages are selfish in the manner they treat their pets. Yes, many animals love to ride in a car with their owner. Yes, animals love to go with their masters when they go ANYWHERE. That does not make it right. Some folks are allergic to animals and don't appreciate having your pet forced upon them. Some folks are scared of animals. Some folks do not want your pet sitting in a shopping cart where food is carried. Some animals do not enjoy loud music, large crowds, being stepped on, having a stranger pet them, etc. Most of that should be common sense, but some idiots have total disregard for their pets and just want them as a security blanket. Get a stuffed teddy bear.

Nice to know there are are animal/dog loves here who are also able to view pets in a rational way, and realize that while we should always treat animals with kindness and respect, they are not "equal to" human beings. You expressed some rational thinking, nice to see !

[Pairadocs]

Perhaps I can give you a reason . . . We have a dog . . . a very large dog. If we had taken her to Brownwood that night with that amount of people, truthfully, we would have left. I don't think it would have been fair to anyone, dog included, to be in such a mob scene with a dog. I think it is selfish to bring a dog to a wall-to-wall people event and regardless of what a person's reasoning is, it is wrong.

However, we will take her to Lowe's or Home Depot because they do permit dogs. We will go to a square at night to listen to the music. We will sit in the back or somewhere where she doesn't interfere with the crowd, but if it is somewhat crowded, we move further out. Our main reason for taking our dog to people places is for exposure to different places, sounds/noises, people, etc. In other words it is to socialize her and give her exposure so she doesn't get spooked (we hope) to different places and things.

Unfortunately, I do not think our reasoning is the same as others; I can't account for what others do and very often I am tempted to say something, but don't.

I understand why you might have to "hold your tongue" at times, you seem to be not only a "responsible" pet owner, but I would guess you also treat your pet very well and do not walk it a couple blocks away, momentarily unleash it, and urge it into a yard to do it's business. I watch this and really wonder if the owner did that in the PREVIOUS locations where she lived, or does this happen when you moved to the V's ? Puzzling, and very disrespectful ! Actually gives me a sad feeling to watch some of the "entitled" behaviors you see here. Here's another interesting "discussion"...LOL... why "some" people feel entitled to park a golf cart in the MIDDLE of a parking space... do they have the "right", of course, but why do it ? What do people feel they can just drive their autos IN the golf cart lane along main streets ? But they do it ALL the time, not just "swerve" into the GC lane momentarily because they were busy checking their cell phone, but actually drive with the right front and rear tires entirely in the GC lane ! Senility or entitlement I always wonder, same with some of the things you see in regard to pets, dogs in particular. Like you, just watch and shake my head in wonder, but hold my tongue... LOL !

[EdFNJ]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? ….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event? They probably bring their dogs so people who see them can post 20 pages on TOTV about "why do they bring dogs to <fill in the blank>" every week. I guess this smells better than POOP posts. Just wait! Next will be "when is Costco for Dogs" coming to The Villages? :D:D

[mlmarr]

totally agree, leave the pets at home, if they need you that much, stay with them.

[WingedFoot78]

Does taking a pet for a walk in a baby carriage actually considered " taking a pet for a walk"? It seems to defeat the purpose.

[WingedFoot78]

138 posts............is this some sort of a record?

[Travelhunter123]

I rarely agree with Orange, but this post was right and I agree. I'll tell you how one knows about dogs. Experience and advice from experts. I've had dogs for decades and also trained them for the military. Professionals make it their business to know as much about a subject as possible.
Folks in the Villages are selfish in the manner they treat their pets. Yes, many animals love to ride in a car with their owner. Yes, animals love to go with their masters when they go ANYWHERE. That does not make it right. Some folks are allergic to animals and don't appreciate having your pet forced upon them. Some folks are scared of animals. Some folks do not want your pet sitting in a shopping cart where food is carried. Some animals do not enjoy loud music, large crowds, being stepped on, having a stranger pet them, etc. Most of that should be common sense, but some idiots have total disregard for their pets and just want them as a security blanket. Get a stuffed teddy bear.

Agree

[Daxdog]

A real service dog must have a note from a doctor. You can not ask the person what if anything is wrong with them, but according to Fl law you can ask what the dog is trained to do. A business can decline to entry to a support animal but not a true service dog. Just because you went online and brought a vest or a leash with “service animal” it doesn’t make it real.

[JMintzer]

Don't have a dog (been there done that many times, but wanted a retirement dog free life, selfish but, want to be able come and go with out so much responsibility. Since so many seem to give such, well, rather nasty type replies, I'll try to give you an honest answer. Have a cousin who takes her dog everywhere, and I mean everywhere, if you invite her to lunch at your home (and I have), you also get the dog. It goes to all the stores, she does take a pad she puts in the shopping buggy, and she constantly tells us how "even at stores that tend to discourage you from bringing your dog inside, just fall in love with our Hunter, they just flock to him everywhere we go". I have never understood why people would just flock to this dog as she always relates they do... it's not a small dog, medium mixed breed from a shelter, not "snippy", seems friendly enough when we're around him, but he's quite a load for a shopping cart or in a restaurant, etc. She claims HE will not allow her to go anywhere, even on a quick errand, without HIM or he pouts and is angry with her for several days ???? I gave up trying to figure it out. Apart from this odd behavior, she has NO other odd behaviors or talk ! ? All I can say is, from what we have observed in our home, in her home, and out at public events, she just firmly believes the dog IS AN ACTUAL HUMAN PERSON with the same range of emotions, desires, and demands ! ?

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000123065968-qr5sio-t500x500.jpg

[JMintzer]

I understand why you might have to "hold your tongue" at times, you seem to be not only a "responsible" pet owner, but I would guess you also treat your pet very well and do not walk it a couple blocks away, momentarily unleash it, and urge it into a yard to do it's business. I watch this and really wonder if the owner did that in the PREVIOUS locations where she lived, or does this happen when you moved to the V's ? Puzzling, and very disrespectful ! Actually gives me a sad feeling to watch some of the "entitled" behaviors you see here. Here's another interesting "discussion"...LOL... why "some" people feel entitled to park a golf cart in the MIDDLE of a parking space... do they have the "right", of course, but why do it ? What do people feel they can just drive their autos IN the golf cart lane along main streets ? But they do it ALL the time, not just "swerve" into the GC lane momentarily because they were busy checking their cell phone, but actually drive with the right front and rear tires entirely in the GC lane ! Senility or entitlement I always wonder, same with some of the things you see in regard to pets, dogs in particular. Like you, just watch and shake my head in wonder, but hold my tongue... LOL !

Aaaand, you let it all out here... :p

[JMintzer]

Does taking a pet for a walk in a baby carriage actually considered " taking a pet for a walk"? It seems to defeat the purpose.

Does taking someone in a wheelchair out for a walk really count as taking them out for a walk?

Sometimes, it's the best one can do to get fresh air and see the world outside their home...

[DAVES]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?

People, dogs and Christmas. Add gold cart speeding and lawns.

[JMintzer]

138 posts............is this some sort of a record?

Not even close...

[DAVES]

A real service dog must have a note from a doctor. You can not ask the person what if anything is wrong with them, but according to Fl law you can ask what the dog is trained to do. A business can decline to entry to a support animal but not a true service dog. Just because you went online and brought a vest or a leash with “service animal” it doesn’t make it real.

No matter what the law is or it's INTENT, there will be people who think they are ENTITLED to abuse it. We/I tend to notice ABUSERS but need to remember that MOST
people are responsible. As far as a business POLICING customers, Imagine the POSTS from SOME of our fellow Villagers. They have ALL decided it is not a good idea.
Grocery, better not to realize the previous user decided THEIR mutt that just stepped in
poop, is needed as a consultant to decide what FOOD to purchase. Have not seen any pet, oops, service pigs.

[jimkerr]

Because it’s good for socialization. Who cares if someone brings a dog. There are so many busy bodies trying to get involved in other peoples business here.

I encourage more people to bring their dogs.

[Laker14]

I've seen dogs at the squares, but I've never seen one that seemed distressed by the crowds or the noise, probably because the owner has taken the time to desensitize the dog to such an environment, by, (get ready for this now...) bringing the dog to places with people and noise.
If the dog has been conditioned to it, and is behaving well, I have no problem with it. Not all dogs are bothered by it. Some dogs tolerate guns being shot over their heads, other dogs hide under the bed when a car door gets slammed shut. If the dog is freaking out, and as I say, I haven't personally seen this at the squares, then the owner should get the dog away and seek some professional guidance in dog behavior and training, and learn how to gradually desensitize the dog to such an environment. This can be a daunting task, and likely more time consuming than most dog owners realize, or are willing to undertake.

Training dogs is not that hard to do, but it requires an owner who is willing to do it, and consistently reenforce desired behaviors, while calmly, assertively, and humanely, discouraging undesirable behaviors.

[mikeycereal]

Just saying…
1. Dogs don’t get drunk at events
2. Dogs don’t drive the golf carts into walls
3. Dogs are more handsome than most Villagers
4. Dogs are more behaved than certain Villagers
5. Dogs don’t save “spots” in the bleachers for their friends.
Just kidding….. happy holidays to all!

humans don't take a dump in other human's yards.

Uh oh! :duck:

Saw an allergy post on the other page. Used to work with a guy that couldn't be around dogs for that reason. For him we had a strict no dogs at work policy. The couple times it happened he got annoyed and a few of us mentioned it to the owners and the dog was kept away from roaming our side until they took it out and left. I also knew a little kid who loved dogs but if he pet them would stir up his allergy and the mom always had to refrain him from doing so because she didn't want to have to rush him to the ER. Sad on both cases but allergies suck.

[fdpaq0580]

How do you know they were not service dogs?

BS counter and deffect. How do know they were not Russian spy dogs, space aliens, etc.

[JSR22]

BS counter and deffect. How do know they were not Russian spy dogs, space aliens, etc.

You cannot determine if a dog is or is not by looking at them, unless they are lunging, barking or uncontrolled.

What is deffect?

[Hifred]

Why do you bring your wife or kids? If the dogs are permitted it simply is none or your business. Why so many old folk have to be so bossy?

It is because some people put their own needs in front of the dog's needs. Loud noise and crowds overstimulate animals with sensitive hearing. Some adults put their needs above those of the elderly, babies and young children. It is sad but selfishness and what one person wants with disregard for others (human or animal) does exist. It is important to recognize those traits. That is why some people want to work in a care giving position with either the very old, the very young or the infirmed. It is so they can indulge themselves either on their phones or whatever and not think about the one who needs their care. I see people with very large dogs like Newfoundland's who bring them to the square in the summer and don't even bring a dish of water for the dog. It is horrible to see those animals suffer and their owners only want to gratify their own needs. What Newfoundland would want to be in 90 degree heat with their heavy coats and no water?

[fdpaq0580]

Because it’s good for socialization. Who cares if someone brings a dog. There are so many busy bodies trying to get involved in other peoples business here.

I encourage more people to bring their dogs.

Good for socialization?? Like taking them to a fireworks display gets them to loud explosions. Or putting them out in lightning stom gets them to appreciate the wonder and beauty of wild weather.
"Who care"? I, and many others who have been attacked, are allergic, feel dogs don't belong at every human focused event or business.
"Get involved in other peoples business". By bringing a dog to a crowded publick event, you are messing with other people's business and their right and ability to enjoy the public festivities.
I encourage folks to leave their pets at home for the benefit of all, pet and human.

[Laker14]

humans don't take a dump in other human's yards.

.

Pretty broad statement, that.

[JSR22]

Good for socialization?? Like taking them to a fireworks display gets them to loud explosions. Or putting them out in lightning stom gets them to appreciate the wonder and beauty of wild weather.
"Who care"? I, and many others who have been attacked, are allergic, feel dogs don't belong at every human focused event or business.
"Get involved in other peoples business". By bringing a dog to a crowded publick event, you are messing with other people's business and their right and ability to enjoy the public festivities.
I encourage folks to leave their pets at home for the benefit of all, pet and human.

It is the owner's choice to bring their dog not yours. There are many communities that do not allow dogs. If the dogs upset, you that much you can move to one of those communities. We moved here because of the multitude of championship golf courses and that TV is dog friendly.

[Villagevip]

If bringing beautiful dogs to the squares at night, is your number one bug in this world ..This, and having to post it, you are very lucky indeed.....

[JSR22]

If bringing beautiful dogs to the squares at night, is your number one bug in this world ..This, and having to post it, you are very lucky indeed.....

Best post in this thread!

[Bill14564]

If bringing beautiful dogs to the squares at night, is your number one bug in this world ..This, and having to post it, you are very lucky indeed.....

You may want to (re)read the original post. The OP doesn't have an issue with bringing dogs to the squares. His question, as I read it, was why presumably caring owners would subject their pets to such a crowd. Assuming there is a reason for it, what is the reason?

"Beautiful dogs"? Definitely in the eye of the owner.

[JSR22]

You may want to (re)read the original post. The OP doesn't have an issue with bringing dogs to the squares. His question, as I read it, was why presumably caring owners would subject their pets to such a crowd. Assuming there is a reason for it, what is the reason?

"Beautiful dogs"? Definitely in the eye of the owner.

The reason is the owner chose to bring the dog. I have never owned a dog that was intimidated by a crowd.

[Eg_cruz]

How do you know they were not service dogs?
At this age if the OP can’t tell the difference there’s big problem
ALL true service dogs are very clearly known

[JSR22]

At this age if the OP can’t tell the difference there’s big problem
ALL true service dogs are very clearly known

Not true.

[retiredguy123]

The reason is the owner chose to bring the dog. I have never owned a dog that was intimidated by a crowd.
I'm intimidated by crowds, but I'm not a dog.

[Eg_cruz]

Saturday I was at the Brownwood Paddock Square with some family and friends for the Christmas tree lighting. The place was absolutely packed. Thousands of people were in the square. The bleacher seating area was full, the chairs were full, the dance floor was full, the blocked off area for vendors around the square was packed with people. So serious question….why do you insist on bringing your very large dog to this ‘packed with people’ event? Now before you accuse me of not liking dogs, I love dogs! I have a dog but would never take him to a crowed event like I was at Saturday and would love to know why you feel you have to bring your dog or dogs to this type of event. If it is a service dog that is one thing but I saw dogs there the size of goat or a small horse and they were not service dogs. I really don’t think dogs care one bit about the ‘lighting of a big Christmas tree’! I have discussed this with a number of people and for the life of us we can’t come up with why people do this. So please enlighten me….why do you bring your dog to a jam packed people event?
I really wish the dog owners would stop this craziness of having take their dogs everywhere.

I went to Home Depot as I walked into the door with my 8 yr old grandchild, I lady stopped right in front of us trying to control her Dalmatian. There was another dog a large Poodle heading right towards all of us and the dog we’re wanting to go after each other. This dogs were 2 feet away from my grandchild. As I grabbed my little one the dog owners were pulling their dogs with all their might it was a bit crazy and my grandchild was pretty scared.
As the Poodle left the store the aggressive dog stay in the store……..smh I looked at the owner and said this is why you leave your pets at home. Not is a sorry. The Poodle owner did apologize as he walk by us.

[JSR22]

I'm intimidated by crowds, but I'm not a dog.

Stay away from the tree lighting ceremonies.

[Eg_cruz]

Not true.
Yes they are……true service dogs are. Not talking about these made up service dogs.

[JSR22]

Yes they are……true service dogs are. Not talking about these made up service dogs.

How would you identify an authentic service dog?

[Velvet]

I really wish the dog owners would stop this craziness of having take their dogs everywhere.

I went to Home Depot as I walked into the door with my 8 yr old grandchild, I lady stopped right in front of us trying to control her Dalmatian. There was another dog a large Poodle heading right towards all of us and the dog we’re wanting to go after each other. This dogs were 2 feet away from my grandchild. As I grabbed my little one the dog owners were pulling their dogs with all their might it was a bit crazy and my grandchild was pretty scared.
As the Poodle left the store the aggressive dog stay in the store……..smh I looked at the owner and said this is why you leave your pets at home. Not is a sorry. The Poodle owner did apologize as he walk by us.

Well, I am absolutely amazed at your composure. I was a breeder, also a teacher of young children. I love them both, but had a dog approached one of my students in an unfriendly way, there would be no question as to what I would have done.

[Bill14564]

The reason is the owner chose to bring the dog. I have never owned a dog that was intimidated by a crowd.

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

[KeithRiz]

Because they're selfish, and don't care that their dog is probably only behaving itself because it's overwhelmed and unable to do anything else.

They don't care that the loud music coming from multiple speakers from the square's nightly entertainment is likely painful to their VERY SENSITIVE ears. They don't care that the only thing their dog sees when he's being walked through the crowd are legs and feet and it's likely one of the last things it actually wants to be doing. They will insist that their dog loves the attention, loves being out with mommy and daddy, loves the crowd, loves the music.

No - they don't. Your dog doesn't love it. Your dog loves you, and to the detriment of its own health, will obey you willingly and with a wag on his tail. You are damaging your dog's hearing. This is cruel, not love.

I love dogs and I would never EVER subject a dog to large crowds with loud music, unless it was my service dog. And even then I'd probably do it minimally, out of respect to the dog.

I say this about large dogs and small dogs. Pets don't belong in large crowds with live music. Add to this for the small dogs - they endure all of the above, but they also run a greater risk of being stepped on, dragged around, and "hounded" by well-meaning people who don't know any better and insist on "oooooh looka how cuuuuuute!" grabbing and petting.

There's one lady who -literally- drags her dog around - this pooch is probably 15 years old, can barely see, is lame with one REALLY bad leg and three somewhat bad legs. And gets - I kid you not - dragged. She walks faster than the dog can walk, and it can't keep up with her and falls and she just tugs it over the concrete square. That's the worst of them.

Some people can’t handle it when other people don’t share the same opinions. My dog loves meeting new people and dogs whenever he can.

[JSR22]

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.
I have had dogs my entire life and owned a dog relate business for a number of years. I can tell if my dog is stressed. We take him to the Farmers Market every Saturday, and he enjoys going. I am fully capable of knowing if my dog is unhappy, and I would never leave him alone in a car.

[Laker14]

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

Did you just conflate "dog sitting in a car" with "dog sitting in a hot car"? Two different things. Dogs generally love cars. Windows open, in the shade, with a water dish, likely =dog heaven.
Dog in car, windows up, in sunshine, on a hot day with no water likely = dog death.

But why equate the two?

And you have been given reasons for why people would bring the dogs to the squares. I will repeat them for you.
1. Human enjoys being with dog
2. Dog enjoys being with human
3. Dog is OK with crowds
4. Dog is OK with loud noises.

Note: to repeat what I and others have posted, not all dogs are freaked out by crowds and noise.

And, #5, it is allowed.

No real mystery here.

[Bill14564]

Did you just conflate "dog sitting in a car" with "dog sitting in a hot car"? Two different things. Dogs generally love cars. Windows open, in the shade, with a water dish, likely =dog heaven.
Dog in car, windows up, in sunshine, on a hot day with no water likely = dog death.

But why equate the two?

And you have been given reasons for why people would bring the dogs to the squares. I will repeat them for you.
1. Human enjoys being with dog
2. Dog enjoys being with human
3. Dog is OK with crowds
4. Dog is OK with loud noises.

Note: to repeat what I and others have posted, not all dogs are freaked out by crowds and noise.

And, #5, it is allowed.

No real mystery here.

Dogs sitting in cars : dogs going to squares.

Dogs sitting in hot cars : dogs going to extremely crowded squares.

And another “Because I Can!” answer

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It is the owner's choice to bring their dog not yours. There are many communities that do not allow dogs. If the dogs upset, you that much you can move to one of those communities. We moved here because of the multitude of championship golf courses and that TV is dog friendly.

And it's my choice to give you the stink-eye when I see you do it. MURIKA!

[JSR22]

Dogs sitting in cars : dogs going to squares.

Dogs sitting in hot cars : dogs going to extremely crowded squares.

And another “Because I Can!” answer

If you don't like the dogs around, you should have moved to a community that does not allow pets. There will be more dogs come January when the birds arrive.

[Laker14]

And it's my choice to give you the stink-eye when I see you do it. MURIKA!

OH God, NO!!!! Not the STINK EYE!!!

RUNAWAYYYYYY!!!!!!

[Worldseries27]

good for socialization?? Like taking them to a fireworks display gets them to loud explosions. Or putting them out in lightning stom gets them to appreciate the wonder and beauty of wild weather.
"who care"? I, and many others who have been attacked, are allergic, feel dogs don't belong at every human focused event or business.
"get involved in other peoples business". By bringing a dog to a crowded publick event, you are messing with other people's business and their right and ability to enjoy the public festivities.
I encourage folks to leave their pets at home for the benefit of all, pet and human.
well said

[JMintzer]

I'm intimidated by crowds, but I'm not a dog.

While I'm not intimidated by crowds, I tend to avoid them because people can suck...

I doubt I'd ever go to an event at one of the squares with as many people crammed into one place like they had at the tree lighting...

So, I guess my dog is safe...

[Worldseries27]

i really wish the dog owners would stop this craziness of having take their dogs everywhere.

I went to home depot as i walked into the door with my 8 yr old grandchild, i lady stopped right in front of us trying to control her dalmatian. There was another dog a large poodle heading right towards all of us and the dog we’re wanting to go after each other. This dogs were 2 feet away from my grandchild. As i grabbed my little one the dog owners were pulling their dogs with all their might it was a bit crazy and my grandchild was pretty scared.
As the poodle left the store the aggressive dog stay in the store……..smh i looked at the owner and said this is why you leave your pets at home. Not is a sorry. The poodle owner did apologize as he walk by us.
let's leave aside the issue of so-called service dogs in stores and restaurants . Let's concentrate on the issue of bringing them to the villages town squares while the music is playing and people are showing up to have a good time.
Would you bring your service dog to a party you had been invited to with say 20 to 30 guests mingling, drinking and having a good time maybe dancing. No it would be rude for you to be sitting in their living room all night with scooby do or poolside with your dog interfering in the party process. The same applies to the town squares. The people go there to dance ,drink ,co-mingle, not to sit next to someone's 130 lb dog . Does this make it clearer, it is rude. The party is for the people, not a dog show or for any other barnyard pet. Wish i owned a t-rex, think i could make my point better then, but no worries, he would have a leash on

[JMintzer]

Stay away from the tree lighting ceremonies.

While I wasn't in town for it, there is no way I would have gone...

[JMintzer]

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse. Your dog may not be intimidated by a crowd but as others have mentioned, crowds and loud sounds are not good for dogs - so why subject them to it?

I’ve seen a lot of “Because I Can!” answers but no explanation for why you would choose to put a loved pet in such a situation.

Because loud sounds and crowds don't bother "all dogs"...

As I've said before, the few times we brought our dog to the squares when music was playing, she fell asleep in our lap...

So please explain, what horrors did we subject her to?

[JMintzer]

I have never owned a dog that was afraid to sit on a car. However, choosing to allow my dog to sit in a car on a hot day is considered abuse.

Ridiculous analogy...

[JMintzer]

Dogs sitting in cars : dogs going to squares.

Dogs sitting in hot cars : dogs going to extremely crowded squares.

And another “Because I Can!” answer

And another ridiculous analogy...

[JMintzer]

And it's my choice to give you the stink-eye when I see you do it. MURIKA!

Yeah, that'll change things! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Laker14]

Because loud sounds and crowds don't bother "all dogs"...

As I've said before, the few times we brought our dog to the squares when music was playing, she fell asleep in our lap...

So please explain, what horrors did we subject her to?

Boredom.

[JMintzer]

OH God, NO!!!! Not the STINK EYE!!!

RUNAWAYYYYYY!!!!!!

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[JMintzer]

let's leave aside the issue of so-called service dogs in stores and restaurants . Let's concentrate on the issue of bringing them to the villages town squares while the music is playing and people are showing up to have a good time.
Would you bring your service dog to a party you had been invited to with say 20 to 30 guests mingling, drinking and having a good time maybe dancing. No it would be rude for you to be sitting in their living room all night with scooby do or poolside with your dog interfering in the party process. The same applies to the town squares. The people go there to dance ,drink ,co-mingle, not to sit next to someone's 130 lb dog . Does this make it clearer, it is rude. The party is for the people, not a dog show or for any other barnyard pet. Wish i owned a t-rex, think i could make my point better then, but no worries, he would have a leash on

Not even close to the same thing. One is a private home, the other is a public square...

Should I be forced to sit next to Mable, who douses herself in cheap perfume?

Or Cleetus, who forgot to shower this week?

Oh, and my dog weighs 12-13 lbs...

[JMintzer]

Boredom.

She must be bored a lot. Any time she's on the couch, she falls asleep...

Wait a sec, so do I!

[Laker14]

She must be bored a lot. Any time she's on the couch, she falls asleep...

Wait a sec, so do I!

I feel her pain.

[Worldseries27]

not even close to the same thing. One is a private home, the other is a public square...

Should i be forced to sit next to mable, who douses herself in cheap perfume?

Or cleetus, who forgot to shower this week?

Oh, and my dog weighs 12-13 lbs...
oh ok, i'll leave the t rex home and bring a velociraptor instead. Please look up the word " rude" in any source material you so choose. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE CONCEPT OF RUDE IS THE WEIGHT OF YOUR PET. ARE YOU SAYING ITS POLITE FOR YOU TO BRING FIDO TO A HOUSE PARTY?

[Laker]

…to admit in public that you are so emotionally needy that you can’t be without your dog for 3 hours. Wow…..

[Worldseries27]

not even close to the same thing. One is a private home, the other is a public square...

Should i be forced to sit next to mable, who douses herself in cheap perfume?

Or cleetus, who forgot to shower this week?

Oh, and my dog weighs 12-13 lbs...
you bring up a good point about being forced to sit next to "mable".
Let's do this. Section off an area of the town squares for those who bring their pets. You all sit together with your service animals. Surely your beloved pets will love this experience, or, would chaos reign, the same experience you would subject us to. Did you ever think your pets make non pet owners nervous? Especially in close quarters. Do you think its pleaseant to sit near an animal who may decide to snack on you. What would you do if it happened. Would you be the one to call 911 and inform them of the event and turn yourself in? Kind of think the pet owner would make apologies and get into the wind as fast as possible.

[fdpaq0580]

You cannot determine if a dog is or is not by looking at them, unless they are lunging, barking or uncontrolled.

What is deffect?

Auto-correct changing the word deflect. I like dogs WAY better than auto-correct.

[fdpaq0580]

It is the owner's choice to bring their dog not yours. There are many communities that do not allow dogs. If the dogs upset, you that much you can move to one of those communities. We moved here because of the multitude of championship golf courses and that TV is dog friendly.

"Owner's choice". Indeed. I just think that bringing the dog/dogs along is not always the best or proper choice, depending on the venue.

[JSR22]

"Owner's choice". Indeed. I just think that bringing the dog/dogs along is not always the best or proper choice, depending on the venue.

That is your opinion, but the owner has the choice.

[Bilyclub]

Lowes allows dogs. A number of restaurants allow dogs on the outdoor patios. Dogs are allowed at the squares.

Florida Law bans pets at restaurants, but allows local authorities to make exemptions if certain rules and regulations are followed. Restaurants can allow dogs to be on their outdoor patios, but first the establishment must apply for and be issued an exemption to do so by the proper authorities like Wildwood, Lady Lake, or Sumter County.

[JMintzer]

oh ok, i'll leave the t rex home and bring a velociraptor instead. Please look up the word " rude" in any source material you so choose. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE CONCEPT OF RUDE IS THE WEIGHT OF YOUR PET. ARE YOU SAYING ITS POLITE FOR YOU TO BRING FIDO TO A HOUSE PARTY?

I was responding to the mythical "130 lb dog" that was being used as an example...

And I never said I would bring my dog to a house party, regardless of her weight...

I was comparing a PRIVATE house party to a PUBLIC square...

I thought that was abundantly clear to anyone with a basic understanding of english.

Apparently, I was mistaken...

[JMintzer]

…to admit in public that you are so emotionally needy that you can’t be without your dog for 3 hours. Wow…..

Who did that?

[JMintzer]

you bring up a good point about being forced to sit next to "mable".
Let's do this. Section off an area of the town squares for those who bring their pets. You all sit together with your service animals. Surely your beloved pets will love this experience, or, would chaos reign, the same experience you would subject us to. Did you ever think your pets make non pet owners nervous? Especially in close quarters. Do you think its pleaseant to sit near an animal who may decide to snack on you. What would you do if it happened. Would you be the one to call 911 and inform them of the event and turn yourself in? Kind of think the pet owner would make apologies and get into the wind as fast as possible.

If my pet EVER hurt someone, I would immediately render first aid and stay with the person until help arrived.

And I'm sorry that the mere sight of a dog causes you so much distress.

Maybe a "dog friendly" community like TV is not the place for you..

[JMintzer]

"Owner's choice". Indeed. I just think that bringing the dog/dogs along is not always the best or proper choice, depending on the venue.

Well, that is certainly your opinion. If you are a dog owner, don't bring yours along with you...

But to force your choices onto others, when their choice is quite legal is a non-starter...

[PugMom]

True... They are better than many humans... :laugh:

:bigbow:

[fdpaq0580]

Well, that is certainly your opinion. If you are a dog owner, don't bring yours along with you...

But to force your choices onto others, when their choice is quite legal is a non-starter...

Currently dogless. Chose a human over a dog for my life companion.
Never force my choices, but do suggest that some choices, legal or not, might be nicer, better and more considerate choices for all.

[JSR22]

Currently dogless. Chose a human over a dog for my life companion.
Never force my choices, but do suggest that some choices, legal or not, might be nicer, better and more considerate choices for all.

My dog my choice! Don't like dogs move to a community that does not allow pets.

[Inexes@aol.com]

Wow, I cannot believe 14 pages of responses to this thread,,,,, I waded through 8 of the pages..... gave up. Astoundingly not one mention of my greatest fear..... how are you going to feel when one of those "little pooches" trips an elderly person, causes that person to fall, fracture a hip and most likely never fully recover from same???? If you watch the activities on the live cameras you will see what I am talking about..... not only the pets, but small children, bouncing/walking/running about in the crowd..... one day it's going to happen... if not already... Think about it, you may wind up in court.

[fdpaq0580]

My dog my choice! Don't like dogs move to a community that does not allow pets.

Your dog, your choice. My human, my choice. Thanks for your thoughtful suggestion where I live, but we like it here just fine.
Happy Holidays! 🎅🎄🎁

[Moderator]

Good grief. Thread closed.

Moderator