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jimschlaefer
01-02-2023, 04:24 PM
I'm trying links from GolftheVillages.com to the TeeTimeSystem using both Google and Firefox browsers and continue to get 404 errors (basically 'bad link'). Would someone share the URL for that system so I can request some tee times. And if the GolftheVillages team is "listening", please check your site for valid links.
Thanks in advance.

Arlington2
01-02-2023, 04:28 PM
Just now tried with Chrome browser on pc. No problem logging in.

alwann
01-02-2023, 05:25 PM
I'm trying links from GolftheVillages.com to the TeeTimeSystem using both Google and Firefox browsers and continue to get 404 errors (basically 'bad link'). Would someone share the URL for that system so I can request some tee times. And if the GolftheVillages team is "listening", please check your site for valid links.
Thanks in advance.

I didn't know there is a link from golfthevillages to thevillages.net, which is what most use for booking tee time requests on-line. It's a subscription service.

BrianL99
01-02-2023, 05:57 PM
I didn't know there is a link from golfthevillages to thevillages.net, which is what most use for booking tee time requests on-line. It's a subscription service.


The Link works just fine, I just tried it.

Papa_lecki
01-02-2023, 07:01 PM
No tee times from golfTheVillages.com - need to go to thevillages.net - the link is in the bottom right

Flyers999
01-03-2023, 04:08 PM
Link works for me on both Chrome and Edge on a pc.

You may want to "Clear Browsing data." On Edge go to "Settings/Privacy, Search and services/ Clear browsing data."

MrChip72
01-03-2023, 07:34 PM
I didn't know there is a link from golfthevillages to thevillages.net, which is what most use for booking tee time requests on-line. It's a subscription service.

A monthly paid subscription service to book anything online in 2023 just seems crazy. Reminds me of a few things that existed in the early 90's but don't exist anymore for good reason.

Even many of the most basic cheap golf courses in Florida offer online booking at no extra charge.

MrFlorida
01-03-2023, 07:36 PM
I'm trying links from GolftheVillages.com to the TeeTimeSystem using both Google and Firefox browsers and continue to get 404 errors (basically 'bad link'). Would someone share the URL for that system so I can request some tee times. And if the GolftheVillages team is "listening", please check your site for valid links.
Thanks in advance.

The service is not free, you need a paid subscription to use it.

MSchad
01-03-2023, 07:54 PM
A monthly paid subscription service to book anything online in 2023 just seems crazy. Reminds me of a few things that existed in the early 90's but don't exist anymore for good reason.

Even many of the most basic cheap golf courses in Florida offer online booking at no extra charge.
Comparing of a single course reservation system to a system that handles 57 courses allowing requests for multiple courses and multiple times besides straight reservations? Apples and oranges. Major online reservation systems (golf now etc) also charge a membership fee or a booking fee.

Papa_lecki
01-03-2023, 08:36 PM
A monthly paid subscription service to book anything online in 2023 just seems crazy. Reminds me of a few things that existed in the early 90's but don't exist anymore for good reason.

Even many of the most basic cheap golf courses in Florida offer online booking at no extra charge.

Someone needs to pay for it. Since most of the tee times are for executive courses, the development districts will pay for it, which means the residents pay for it.
The Developer will pass the cost onto those playing championship courses in the greens fees.

Bogie Shooter
01-03-2023, 08:55 PM
A monthly paid subscription service to book anything online in 2023 just seems crazy. Reminds me of a few things that existed in the early 90's but don't exist anymore for good reason.

Even many of the most basic cheap golf courses in Florida offer online booking at no extra charge.

Use the phone, it’s free.

MrChip72
01-03-2023, 10:55 PM
Someone needs to pay for it. Since most of the tee times are for executive courses, the development districts will pay for it, which means the residents pay for it.
The Developer will pass the cost onto those playing championship courses in the greens fees.

I appreciate what you're saying. I've worked in tech my entire career and practically every business or entity needs to keep up with modern technology as a cost of doing business. Imagine if TV never created the phone system in the first place and people still had to call to book their tee times like it was 40 years ago and then the person you call is using data entry to enter it into the system.

MrChip72
01-03-2023, 11:04 PM
Comparing of a single course reservation system to a system that handles 57 courses allowing requests for multiple courses and multiple times besides straight reservations? Apples and oranges. Major online reservation systems (golf now etc) also charge a membership fee or a booking fee.

I've worked in IT my whole life. Building a system that's modern with a web portal and mobile apps would be relatively low complexity compared to most types of apps, even for 57 courses. Based on my past experience, the long term cost would likely be cheaper than the phone system to maintain.

There's over 25 entities in North America that have 50+ courses with a free booking system.

banjobob
01-04-2023, 05:10 AM
sign up, pay the fee, access ,The Villages.net ,sign in , choose Golf schedule your needs.

MSchad
01-04-2023, 05:18 AM
I've worked in IT my whole life. Building a system that's modern with a web portal and mobile apps would be relatively low complexity compared to most types of apps, even for 57 courses. Based on my past experience, the long term cost would likely be cheaper than the phone system to maintain.

There's over 25 entities in North America that have 50+ courses with a free booking system.
Preaching to the choir. IT here also, application analyst/development that wrote multi-tier applications. I think you are over simplifying the algorithm that prioritizes golfers, not just simply making reservations. And nothing is free. Someone pays for development, hardware, infrastructure and on going service/support.

mkjelenbaas
01-04-2023, 06:12 AM
I'm trying links from GolftheVillages.com to the TeeTimeSystem using both Google and Firefox browsers and continue to get 404 errors (basically 'bad link'). Would someone share the URL for that system so I can request some tee times. And if the GolftheVillages team is "listening", please check your site for valid links.
Thanks in advance.
Why don’t you just call them or visit the office and get the real answer???

BrianL99
01-04-2023, 06:51 AM
There's over 25 entities in North America that have 50+ courses with a free booking system.

There are 11 entities in the world that manage over 50+ Golf Courses.

None of whom manage a system, anywhere near as complex as The Villages "point system".

Golf companies: number of golf courses 2021 | Statista (https://www.statista.com/statistics/273825/golf-course-management-companies-by-number-of-courses/#:~:text=Troon%20Golf%20is%20the%20leading,golf%20 courses%20in%20their%20portfolio).

TV's system isn't perfect, but it's by far, the best I've ever seen, given the complexity of the task.

NoMo50
01-04-2023, 07:48 AM
Use the phone, it’s free.

The phone system might be OK if you only play once in a while, and aren't searching for open tee times. For anyone playing a couple times a week or more, or searching multiple courses for tee times within the 3 day window, the computer system is the only way to go. Suck it up, pay the $8 monthly fee, and rock on.

Janie123
01-04-2023, 09:05 AM
I'm trying links from GolftheVillages.com to the TeeTimeSystem using both Google and Firefox browsers and continue to get 404 errors (basically 'bad link'). Would someone share the URL for that system so I can request some tee times. And if the GolftheVillages team is "listening", please check your site for valid links.
Thanks in advance.
Https://thevillages.net

Dgodin
01-04-2023, 11:01 AM
I agree. Especially when you can book public courses on line via a third party app like GolfNow.
The Villages phone in tee time system is a 1970s solution and should have been replaced a long time ago.

edmcmillan
01-04-2023, 11:05 AM
You can start and stop your subscription depending if you're here full time or part time. You can also use their phone system to key in requested Tee times but it is somewhat cumbersome.

Bogie Shooter
01-04-2023, 12:07 PM
I agree. Especially when you can book public courses on line via a third party app like GolfNow.
The Villages phone in tee time system is a 1970s solution and should have been replaced a long time ago.

It was with the online system. :shrug:

MrChip72
01-04-2023, 09:32 PM
None of whom manage a system, anywhere near as complex as The Villages "point system".


Their point system isn't complex at all. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but there's basically 4 variables that are taken into account in determining whether a requested booking is fulfilled or not. Any average software developer could code for their algorithm within an hour.

BrianL99
01-05-2023, 10:20 AM
Their point system isn't complex at all. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but there's basically 4 variables that are taken into account in determining whether a requested booking is fulfilled or not. Any average software developer could code for their algorithm within an hour.


135,000 Village ID's + Guests. 57 Courses. Approximately 100 different starting holes. Somewhere around 5000? available Tee openings. Most requests, involving various "course/time preferences" and various numbers of players, with varying priority.

Seems like a lot more than 4 variables to me.

MrChip72
01-06-2023, 12:39 AM
135,000 Village ID's + Guests. 57 Courses. Approximately 100 different starting holes. Somewhere around 5000? available Tee openings. Most requests, involving various "course/time preferences" and various numbers of players, with varying priority.

Seems like a lot more than 4 variables to me.


Most public or semi-private courses have potentially unlimited guests. There's 25 million golfers in the US.

There's only a few variables in deciding YES/NO in whether a booking is fulfilled and that's basically what the points sytem is used for. The points system is their way of providing visibility to their algorithm, which is actually a good thing. The total number of other holes or available bookings on other holes that the person making the request is not a relevant variable. For example if you request to book Mangrove, it's not relevant what other people have booked at other courses on that day. You're just going to be assigned the first available in your preferred timeslot where your point value "wins". Extremely basic algorithm.

I'm done debating an IT problem with someone that doesn't understand basic complexity in the Villages golf reservation system compared to a modern typical application like a travel booking system that is reasonably complex, I've implemented a few.