Are any new Championship or Executive courses currently under construction?

[coainc]

The only new courses that I've noticed are "Pitch & Putt".

Thanks.

[Papa_lecki]

The only new courses that I've noticed are "Pitch & Putt".

Thanks.

I don’t know the names, but I think at least 4 championship and 3 executive are in various stages. At least 2 executive will open this spring.

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[coainc]

I don’t know the names, but I think at least 4 championship and 3 executive are in various stages. At least 2 executive will open this spring.

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Thank you for the information.

[VApeople]

The Villages has made several publications showing their plans, including the new golf courses. If you go to one of the Sales Centers maybe they can give you a copy of their publications.

[Altavia]

Take a drive down Marsh Bend Trail and 470. They are digging in the planned course areas as far as the eye can see.

[Woodbear]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge

[BrianL99]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge


That doesn't look like "5" courses, it looks like 2-3.

Of course, if they're anything like Southern Oaks it won't matter much, no one will want to play them.

[Rainger99]

At least 2 executive will open this spring.

What are the names of the courses and where are they located?

I want to drive by and check out the progress.

[Rainger99]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives?

I think they make more money on the championship courses than the executive courses.

[Bay Kid]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge

Southern Star/Yankee Clipper started it's life as an 18 hole course.

[Papa_lecki]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge

You have to realize, there are already 6 executive courses operating south of the turnpike.

[Rainger99]

Southern Star/Yankee Clipper started it's life as an 18 hole course.

Did they rebuild the entire course? Southern Star only has one par four and Yankee Clipper only has two par fours. What did they do with the par fives? If you took a championship course and turned it into an executive, you would have enough land for three executive courses.

[John Mayes]

The only new courses that I've noticed are "Pitch & Putt".

Thanks.

Three new championship courses, (two 18’s and one 27), six executives, one additional pitch and putt and a golf academy.

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[John Mayes]

That doesn't look like "5" courses, it looks like 2-3.

Of course, if they're anything like Southern Oaks it won't matter much, no one will want to play them.

Not sure where you got your facts from but SO’s is in the middle of the pack of the 13 Championship Courses for number of rounds played in 2022.

[Altavia]

I think they make more money on the championship courses than the executive courses.

Golf view lots sell for a $250k+ premium.

[Altavia]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge

That info is almost a year old now so things have evolved significantly.

I think a more recent video from GoldWingnut showed 6+ more Exec's in the planning.

[alwann]

Southern Star/Yankee Clipper started it's life as an 18 hole course.

Really? Didn't know that. But was it a championship or executive? They must have reconfigured the layout since the combined 18 holes have just a few short par 4s.

[John Mayes]

Really? Didn't know that. But was it a championship or executive? They must have reconfigured the layout since the combined 18 holes have just a few short par 4s.

I think it started as an 18 hole executive but not 100% sure.

[BrianL99]

Not sure where you got your facts from but SO’s is in the middle of the pack of the 13 Championship Courses for number of rounds played in 2022.


I doubt that's the case. If it is, it's only because it's the only one in the area, in reasonable cart commuting distance. It's a horrible golf course.

[photo1902]

You have to realize, there are already 6 executive courses operating south of the turnpike.

Longleaf/Loblolly
Red & Gray Fox
Lowlands

Which one is the 6th?

[John Mayes]

I doubt that's the case. If it is, it's only because it's the only one in the area, in reasonable cart commuting distance. It's a horrible golf course.

Trust me, that is the case. I understand that you don’t like the course, which is fine, but lots do like it.

[xkeowner]

I think it started as an 18 hole executive but not 100% sure.

It started out as an 18 hole executive course with the starter shack in a trailer by the tennis courts adjacent to the current green of Yankee Clipper #5. At that time, Yankee Clipper #6 was hole #1. It was converted into the current two course configuration when the current starter shack was completed in the 2011 or 2012 time frame.

[John Mayes]

It started out as an 18 hole executive course with the starter shack in a trailer by the tennis courts adjacent to the current green of Yankee Clipper #5. At that time, Yankee Clipper #6 was hole #1. It was converted into the current two course configuration when the current starter shack was completed in the 2011 or 2012 time frame.

Thank you. Good info!

[Bogie Shooter]

Not sure where you got your facts from but SO’s is in the middle of the pack of the 13 Championship Courses for number of rounds played in 2022.

:boom:

[Rainger99]

Longleaf/Loblolly
Red & Gray Fox
Lowlands

Which one is the 6th?

I assume they are referring to Marsh View Pitch & Putt - which is not an executive course.

[MSchad]

Three new championship courses, (two 18’s and one 27), six executives, one additional pitch and putt and a golf academy.

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Thank you for presenting facts and the source. Now if people would just follow the link and read.

[Rwirish]

Seems like many don’t like the course. Of course those who enjoy the turnpike view and free turnpike noise just love it. And let’s pay more to play it to boot.

[mkjelenbaas]

The only new courses that I've noticed are "Pitch & Putt".

Thanks.
Why didn’t you just call the district office and get the real answer??

[Papa_lecki]

Seems like many don’t like the course. Of course those who enjoy the turnpike view and free turnpike noise just love it. And let’s pay more to play it to boot.

Seems like many on TOTV dont like the course. It seems to get decent play. Will be interesting to see the tee sheet on it in FEB/MAR

[defrey12]

What are the names of the courses and where are they located?

I want to drive by and check out the progress.

You can’t. All dirt. Will be for quite a while.

[jarodrig]

I assume they are referring to Marsh View Pitch & Putt - which is not an executive course.

I believe it is . It’s listed in the Executive Courses list on the tee time site . You need to make a tee time to play it , just like any other Executive course.

[Bay Kid]

Really? Didn't know that. But was it a championship or executive? They must have reconfigured the layout since the combined 18 holes have just a few short par 4s.

Not sure of the history other than it was a championship course and the stater shack was by Seabreeze.

[jarodrig]

I assume they are referring to Marsh View Pitch & Putt - which is not an executive course.

Oh , and let’s not forget the recently opened Richmond Pitch and Putt.

Same deal , listed as an executive course in the tee time system.

So, that makes 7 executives south of 44 …..

[Rainger99]

I believe it is . It’s listed in the Executive Courses list on the tee time site . You need to make a tee time to play it , just like any other Executive course.

Although you need a tee time for the Pitch & Putt courses, that does not make it an executive course.

The map differentiates between Championship Courses, Executive Courses, and Pitch & Putt Courses or Short Game Courses. The Pitch & Putt courses are 18 holes and golf carts are not allowed - golfers have to walk. Executive courses are 9 holes and you can take a cart or you can walk.

There are no Executive Courses south of 44 and north of the turnpike - although we have one Championship course and one Pitch & Putt with a second "opening soon."

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/TheVillagesGolfMap.pdf?v=1711

[golfing eagles]

Not sure of the history other than it was a championship course and the stater shack was by Seabreeze.

99.9% sure it was never a championship course. It might have been an experimental exec 18, but it was also two of the courses that, in the summer, could be reserved as back to back nines for a while 3-4 years ago

[sowilts]

Why so many Championships as compared to Executives? Ratio wise there was 3 Executive courses installed for every Championship. Below the Turnpike they are putting in 5 Championships to 3 Executives? Southern Oaks is hardly utilized, what a waste having 5 Championships be less than 4 miles from the Bexly Bridge
Can’t wait for the Championship Courses. Will be from 10 to 20 minutes by cart from Linden. Southern Oaks is a great course to play and it does not have the wave. Everything looks fantastic for the area my wife selected. 😎

[grayesun]

Yankee Clipper/Southern Star early on was definitely combined as an 18 hole Executive layout, with starter shack (office trailer) next to Seabreeze Rec. Center. We played it many times in the 18 hole configuration, it was never a Championship course.

[Bay Kid]

Yankee Clipper/Southern Star early on was definitely combined as an 18 hole Executive layout, with starter shack (office trailer) next to Seabreeze Rec. Center. We played it many times in the 18 hole configuration, it was never a Championship course.

Sorry I was spreading misinformation. I often wondered how that was called a championship course with the current layout?

[Rainger99]

Sorry I was spreading misinformation.

If one reads TOTV, that was not the first time - and clearly not the last time that there will be misinformation on TOTV.

[Bay Kid]

If one reads TOTV, that was not the first time - and clearly not the last time that there will be misinformation on TOTV.

Hahaha So true but this was unintentional.

[NobodyCares]

Although you need a tee time for the Pitch & Putt courses, that does not make it an executive course.

The map differentiates between Championship Courses, Executive Courses, and Pitch & Putt Courses or Short Game Courses. The Pitch & Putt courses are 18 holes and golf carts are not allowed - golfers have to walk. Executive courses are 9 holes and you can take a cart or you can walk.

There are no Executive Courses south of 44 and north of the turnpike - although we have one Championship course and one Pitch & Putt with a second "opening soon."

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/TheVillagesGolfMap.pdf?v=1711
There are no Executive Courses south of 44 and north of the turnpike - although we have one Championship course and one Pitch & Putt with a second "opening soon."

Might want to look at you own link.
What do you call lowland, grey fox, red fox, lobylolly and long leaf?

[golfing eagles]

There are no Executive Courses south of 44 and north of the turnpike - although we have one Championship course and one Pitch & Putt with a second "opening soon."

Might want to look at you own link.
What do you call lowland, grey fox, red fox, lobylolly and long leaf?

I'm pretty sure he, as well as everyone else, would call them SOUTH of the turnpike.

[drcar]

Did they rebuild the entire course? Southern Star only has one par four and Yankee Clipper only has two par fours. What did they do with the par fives? If you took a championship course and turned it into an executive, you would have enough land for three executive courses.

I t was never a championship course. It was just a 18 hole exec course. They split it years ago.

[Jmontgom09@aol.com]

The only new courses that I've noticed are "Pitch & Putt".

Thanks.


They should fix the championship courses in total disarray before they build new courses. If they maintain the new like the old , nobody benefits.
Try playing. Havana,Cane ,Hacienda , Mallory. Etc. terrible.

[Rainger99]

They should fix the championship courses in total disarray before they build new courses. If they maintain the new like the old , nobody benefits.
Try playing. Havana, Cane ,Hacienda , Mallory. Etc. terrible.

Before they fix the championship courses up north, I think they should build some executive courses in the south. There are 13 executive courses north of 466; 16 between 466 and 466A; 7 between 466A and 44; and 6 south of the Turnpike. There are no executive courses between 44 and the Turnpike. I understand that they are building more executives south of the Turnpike but there are no plans to build any executive courses in Newell, Lake Denham, or Dabney.

But they love building pitch & putts and putting greens!

[Altavia]

Before they fix the championship courses up north, I think they should build some executive courses in the south. There are 13 executive courses north of 466; 16 between 466 and 466A; 7 between 466A and 44; and 6 south of the Turnpike. There are no executive courses between 44 and the Turnpike. I understand that they are building more executives south of the Turnpike but there are no plans to build any executive courses in Newell, Lake Denham, or Dabney.

But they love building pitch & putts and putting greens!

Have you noticed that big bridge connecting at least 3 executives currently in work just south of the.Turnpike that will be within 10 min of Sawgrass by the time they open? With more planned to follow?

Who cares what side of the Turnpike they are on?


And at least three more planned a little further south.

[Bogie Shooter]

Have you noticed that big bridge connecting at least 3 executives currently in work just south of the.Turnpike that will be within 10 min of Sawgrass by the time they open? With more planned to follow?

Who cares what side of the Turnpike they are on?


And at least three more planned a little further south.

Some want one or two just down the street. 10 minutes OMG!

[Altavia]

Some just want one or two just down the street. 10 minutes OMG!

Everything on this map along with Longleaf and Loblolly will be within 3 miles of Sawgrass.

[Rainger99]

Have you noticed that big bridge connecting at least 3 executives currently in work just south of the.Turnpike that will be within 10 min of Sawgrass by the time they open? With more planned to follow?

Who cares what side of the Turnpike they are on?

I think if you live on the side where the courses are, you don't care but if you live on the side where there are no courses, you care.

The point was that they used to build courses in all areas. They built courses north of 466 and south of 466. No one ever said who cares what side of 466 you are on. They built them on both sides. If you live near 466A, you do care which side of 466 the courses are. Same with the Turnpike - if you live south, there are five courses and they are building more. If you live north of the Turnpike and south of 44 - this includes Chitty Chatty, Bradford, Baldwin, Richmond, St. Johns, Cason Hammock, Citrus Grove, St. Catherines, Newell, Lake Denham, and Dabney, there are none and they are not building any.

Also, I haven't heard any date on when these new courses will be open for play. Any idea? I am hoping for sometime next year but I haven't seen any information.

Check out the map. Between 44 and the Turnpike is a huge area. We only have two pitch & putts and two putting courses.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/TheVillagesGolfMap.pdf

[JMintzer]

Before they fix the championship courses up north, I think they should build some executive courses in the south. There are 13 executive courses north of 466; 16 between 466 and 466A; 7 between 466A and 44; and 6 south of the Turnpike. There are no executive courses between 44 and the Turnpike. I understand that they are building more executives south of the Turnpike but there are no plans to build any executive courses in Newell, Lake Denham, or Dabney.

But they love building pitch & putts and putting greens!

Not enough land. Most of the villages North/East of the Turnpike are quite narrow compared to the South/west side...

No room in Chitty Chatty or Bradford. Once you get to St Catherine, Hawkins, Cason Hammock and Citrus Grove (where things widen up), you have Southern Oaks.

Once you pass Citrus Grove, you have the narrow villages of Newel and Lake Denham... No room for multiple Exec courses...

[kkingston57]

That doesn't look like "5" courses, it looks like 2-3.

Of course, if they're anything like Southern Oaks it won't matter much, no one will want to play them.

Heard good reviews of Southern Oaks. What is wrong with it? Clearly it is new and new trees/vegetation needs to mature. Can you say why no one will want to play.

[JSR22]

Heard good reviews of Southern Oaks. What is wrong with it? Clearly it is new and new trees/vegetation needs to mature. Can you say why no one will want to play.

My husband plays championship three to four days a week. No interest in paying more for the course, turnpike noise and not wanting to drive that far. Seven courses between four sixty six and four sixty sixA. If ghe is going to go further Tierra Del Sol and Glenview.

[Marathon Man]

So, you bought in an area with no golf courses, and are now commenting that there are no golf courses?

[kansasr]

You have to have land to build golf courses....south of 44 above the turnpike the only undeveloped land is marshland......once the new bridge over the turnpike is completed later this year, there will be pretty easy access to the new proposed executive courses on the other side of the turnpike.

[Altavia]

I think if you live on the side where the courses are, you don't care but if you live on the side where there are no courses, you care.

The point was that they used to build courses in all areas. They built courses north of 466 and south of 466. No one ever said who cares what side of 466 you are on. They built them on both sides. If you live near 466A, you do care which side of 466 the courses are. Same with the Turnpike - if you live south, there are five courses and they are building more. If you live north of the Turnpike and south of 44 - this includes Chitty Chatty, Bradford, Baldwin, Richmond, St. Johns, Cason Hammock, Citrus Grove, St. Catherines, Newell, Lake Denham, and Dabney, there are none and they are not building any.

Also, I haven't heard any date on when these new courses will be open for play. Any idea? I am hoping for sometime next year but I haven't seen any information.

Check out the map. Between 44 and the Turnpike is a huge area. We only have two pitch & putts and two putting courses.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/TheVillagesGolfMap.pdf

As JMintzer said, the geography was probably a big factor. They surround golf courses with premium lots for $250K+ so not much room on those areas to do that.

What other areas in the Villages have 4-6 exec courses within a 2-3 mi radius of each other?


As far as opening date, they are sculpting the land scapes now so probably 1-2 years away.

[tophcfa]

Golf view lots sell for a $250k+ premium.

Anyone paying that premium obviously is not paying attention to the travesty that happened at Hacienda Hills. The premium paid could easily evaporate with a few swings of a wrecking ball and some strong arm twisting of zoning board members.

[tophcfa]

Three new championship courses, (two 18’s and one 27), six executives, one additional pitch and putt and a golf academy.

Continuing The Dream: Volume 15 (https://www.nxtbook.com/thevillages/TheVillages/ContinuingTheDream_Vol15/index.php)

Can’t wait for them to be completed, hopefully that will take some stress off the existing courses : )

[JMintzer]

Heard good reviews of Southern Oaks. What is wrong with it? Clearly it is new and new trees/vegetation needs to mature. Can you say why no one will want to play.

Some don't like the cost and the proximity to the turnpike.

Personally, I like the course... Being just north of 44, it's closer to me than the older courses up north...

[Altavia]

Anyone paying that premium obviously is not paying attention to the travesty that happened at Hacienda Hills. The premium paid could easily evaporate with a few swings of a wrecking ball and some strong arm twisting of zoning board members.

Nope, current golf courses are part of the storm water management system.

[MSchad]

We all have 14 championship courses and 42 executive courses all within a 30 minute car ride or cart ride and more coming. Untold more if you travel out of this horrible horrible place. Where else in this world are you going to find that. Life is so unfair for those of us that live here.

[Papa_lecki]

looks like Meadow View will be the next championship to come online - drive down the turnpike, it looks like they are working there and on the executive (Laurel Oak) just north of it.

I know the HS golf team is NOT planning on playing at the new courses this fall - and the range won’t be available for them.

The important thing for golf courses is the grass growing season - need to be sure grass is in the ground for strong roots. I think that time is the spring (mar/April) in florida.
So my guess is course being seeded/sodded next spring, grow through the summer 2024 and opening fall/late fall 2024.

[Elli59]

You have to realize, there are already 6 executive courses operating south of the turnpike.
These are all located to the west, no executive courses available south of 44 / east of Marsh Bend Trail. Looking at the map of Executive courses, this area has been quite neglected. - Pitch and Putt are not the same.

[JMintzer]

These are all located to the west, no executive courses available south of 44 / east of Marsh Bend Trail. Looking at the map of Executive courses, this area has been quite neglected. - Pitch and Putt are not the same.

As was explained, earlier in this thread, the land mass east of Marsh Bend is not large enough to fit an executive course, as it hugs the turnpike...

But, if you really meant Morse/Meggison, the answer is the same... The villages there are long and narrow, not large enough for the executive courses...

[Jayhawk]

I doubt that's the case. If it is, it's only because it's the only one in the area, in reasonable cart commuting distance. It's a horrible golf course.

Sounds like you confused your opinion with actual facts when you stated no one likes to play this course.

[Altavia]

Interesting that Shallow Creek was announced as next given how far south it is (near Middleton)?

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[Altavia]

These are all located to the west, no executive courses available south of 44 / east of Marsh Bend Trail. Looking at the map of Executive courses, this area has been quite neglected. - Pitch and Putt are not the same.

Huh? Lots of golf planned east of MBT on all sides of Eastport.

[Rainger99]

What other areas in the Villages have 4-6 exec courses within a 2-3 mi radius of each other?

Check out the map - there are four courses in the NW corner that are very close. 1, 6, 22, and 40.

Check out 466 and Buena Vista - 3, 8, 14, 26 and 30 are all very close.

Look west of Buena Vista and south of Lake Sumter. There are nine courses within 3 miles.

And then look at Morse and 466A - there are four courses within a mile of each other.


https://www.golfthevillages.com/images/TheVillagesGolfMap.pdf