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cypress
01-04-2023, 12:27 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.

Mrs.Guy
01-04-2023, 12:33 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.

Sounds like someone may be using your number to hold a spot. Check with your spouse to see if he/she is doing that. If not call the tee-time office and ask. :smiley:

cypress
01-04-2023, 01:02 PM
Not her. What is the reasoning behind holding a spot. Some old high school buddy may show up out of the blue and want to play random golf? Just not sure why someone would hold a spot?

GpaVader
01-04-2023, 01:08 PM
The group I play in uses that to hold a spot or if they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us. Have you ever had a friend set up a tee time and gave them your ID number? This is likely where it came from....

Mrs.Guy
01-04-2023, 01:14 PM
The group I play in uses that to hold a spot or if they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us. Have you ever had a friend set up a tee time and gave them your ID number? This is likely where it came from....

:confused: Are you saying your group thinks it's fine to waste a tee time? Wow! :(

golfing eagles
01-04-2023, 01:20 PM
The group I play in uses that to hold a spot or if they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us. Have you ever had a friend set up a tee time and gave them your ID number? This is likely where it came from....

Really???? Besides being against the rules and being subject to getting suspended from golf for a while if you are caught, it's just plain rude. What's the reason?? Your group is anti-social?? Ugly??? Suck badly at golf??? Smell bad??? Snobs????

Also realize, that if the powers that be wished to pursue this, they could get your real name from TOTV and then golf club administration could see who your buddies are and apply the appropriate punishment. I play in several groups, and we have never done what you have just admitted to. Sometimes we only have 3 and have met wonderful people when a fourth joins us. Plus, I'm sure there are newbie singles out there looking for tee times and you are shutting them out.

Final thought: Maybe I'll just text my friend who works in golf club administration and is also on TOTV and see what he thinks of your group.

Mrs.Guy
01-04-2023, 01:27 PM
Really???? Besides being against the rules and being subject to getting suspended from golf for a while if you are caught, it's just plain rude. What's the reason?? Your group is anti-social?? Ugly??? Suck badly at golf??? Smell bad??? Snobs????

Also realize, that if the powers that be wished to pursue this, they could get your real name from TOTV and then golf club administration could see who your buddies are and apply the appropriate punishment. I play in several groups, and we have never done what you have just admitted to. Sometimes we only have 3 and have met wonderful people when a fourth joins us. Plus, I'm sure there are newbie singles out there looking for tee times and you are shutting them out.

Final thought: Maybe I'll just text my friend who works in golf club administration and is also on TOTV and see what he thinks of your group.

:) You left out SPECIAL and/or ENTITLED ;)

golfing eagles
01-04-2023, 01:33 PM
:) You left out SPECIAL and/or ENTITLED ;)

You are so right. I should have listed that first. But there is good news: If I ever put in for a tee time as a single, I won't get stuck playing with these jerks.

JSR22
01-04-2023, 01:35 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.

I have heard of people putting in a reservation and using a Village ID. Then they can substitute a guest for The Villager. It is harder to a get a tee time with guests.

DonH57
01-04-2023, 02:36 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.

You should look into it with the tee time office once you verify none of your buddies are using it. Hurts your reservation and cancellation point numbers and locks out other singles who may want to play. Sounds like someone is using your number as a "ghost golfer".

MrFlorida
01-04-2023, 02:41 PM
Who did you give your ID number to ? Somebody is using it ...

GpaVader
01-04-2023, 02:47 PM
For the record, I don't make those decisions. It was a group I was asked to join because the enjoyed my company. I don't make the tee times and the group is usually full. Often times, they hold a spot because someone is not sure if they can or will play....

golfing eagles
01-04-2023, 02:52 PM
For the record, I don't make those decisions. It was a group I was asked to join because the enjoyed my company. I don't make the tee times and the group is usually full. Often times, they hold a spot because someone is not sure if they can or will play....

OK, fine-----but that's a whole lot different than the previous "they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us"

Altavia
01-04-2023, 02:52 PM
This happened to me when I dropped out of a group but they didn't remove me from their list.

A quick call to the tee time office took care of it.

Would be nice if the system automatically notified people of booked times even if they are not paying for the service.

BrianL99
01-04-2023, 05:57 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.

Curious that this came up today. I played with someone on a Championship Course, yesterday. He is not a TV Resident, but has a Guest Pass. He booked his own Tee Time yesterday, but told me he often plays with a "Group" and ends up paying the "Enhanced Member Rate".

I assume this means someone is booking his Tee Time, using someone else's ID #? Wouldn't the Pro Shop see this when he signs in and stop it?

cypress
01-04-2023, 06:46 PM
OK, fine-----but that's a whole lot different than the previous "they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us"
But why not use the persons name that may or may not play?

rhood
01-04-2023, 06:47 PM
Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

cypress
01-04-2023, 07:02 PM
I will investigate my card but it may be a good idea to check your play history now and then. This seems uncomfortably easy to abuse.

Thanks all.

Bogie Shooter
01-04-2023, 07:11 PM
Curious that this came up today. I played with someone on a Championship Course, yesterday. He is not a TV Resident, but has a Guest Pass. He booked his own Tee Time yesterday, but told me he often plays with a "Group" and ends up paying the "Enhanced Member Rate".

I assume this means someone is booking his Tee Time, using someone else's ID #? Wouldn't the Pro Shop see this when he signs in and stop it?

Questions???
Why is this guy bragging to a stranger how he’s “beating “ the system?
If not a resident where does he reside? This makes a difference.
Who is the sponsor of his guest pass?
How is he able to get the enhanced rate?
How does he play with a group?

In any event if this person shared all this with me, my first stop after playing would be the pro shop to speak with the pro. It’s not too late for you to do the right thing.

photo1902
01-04-2023, 07:15 PM
Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

Safe to say most people (like me) never use the VillagesNet email address. Simple solution is to login, go to mail/forwarder, and enter your personal email account (the one you commonly use). Every time you get a tee time notice, you'll receive an email notification.

BrianL99
01-04-2023, 07:46 PM
Questions???
Why is this guy bragging to a stranger how he’s “beating “ the system?
If not a resident where does he reside? Thus makes a difference.
Who is the sponsor of his guest pass?
How is he able to get the enhanced rate?
How does he play with a group?

In any event if this person shared all this with me, my first stop after playing would be the pro shop to speak with the pro. It’s not too late for you to do the right thing.

I'm not sure it's my responsibility, to make sure golfers pay the appropriate rate. In this instance, I KNOW he paid the proper rate when he played with me (RG).

As near as I can tell, the "flaw in the system" is the way "Groups" can book ... & then they get to the course and drive the Starters crazy, moving people from one foursome to another.

I was in the golf business and if I were King of the Villages Golf System, I cut that stuff out the very first day. You book a foursome, that's the foursome that plays together. If someone drops out at the last minute, tough luck and he pays a "no show" fee, plus gets points added.

I don't know how many times I've listened to guys complain about their group's Tee Times and how hard it is to get them and how much effort it takes. At any decent Private Club in the USA, you'd have a hard time booking any more than (2) Tee Times, in the middle of prime time, in prime season.

Papa_lecki
01-04-2023, 07:53 PM
I'm not sure it's my responsibility, to make sure golfers pay the appropriate rate. In this instance, I KNOW he paid the proper rate when he played with me (RG).

As near as I can tell, the "flaw in the system" is the way "Groups" can book ... & then they get to the course and drive the Starters crazy, moving people from one foursome to another.

I was in the golf business and if I were King of the Villages Golf System, I cut that stuff out the very first day. You book a foursome, that's the foursome that plays together. If someone drops out at the last minute, tough luck and he pays a "no show" fee, plus gets points added.

I don't know how many times I've listened to guys complain about their group's Tee Times and how hard it is to get them and how much effort it takes. At any decent Private Club in the USA, you'd have a hard time booking any more than (2) Tee Times, in the middle of prime time, in prime season.

I agree. Tee times, at Championships, should be held with a credit card - 12 hour cancellation window. You dont cancel, you pay and get points.
No shows at Executives = points charged.
Foursome booked, is the foursome that plays.
however, you should be able to change the foursome in your groups up to the night before

BrianL99
01-04-2023, 08:20 PM
I agree. Tee times, at Championships, should be held with a credit card - 12 hour cancellation window. You dont cancel, you pay and get points.
No shows at Executives = points charged.
Foursome booked, is the foursome that plays.
however, you should be able to change the foursome in your groups up to the night before

I agree. Changing the foursomes a day or 2 prior is fine, but the Starter's Sheet on the morning of play, should show exactly who's playing in what group, at what time.

Not to put too a fine of a point on it, but there are also practical reasons. We're dealing with a lot of older folks here and emergencies arise. If something like that happens, a person should be able to call the Pro Shop and know exactly where someone is on the course or facility. I admit I've played more golf than the average person, but I've been in at least 3 or 4 situations, when the Pro Shop had to come out on the course to find someone. It's much easier, if everyone is where the Tee Sheet says they are.

OK, on one of the occasions, it was just a Sheriff, trying to serve someone ... so no big deal if they could't find him.

Altavia
01-04-2023, 08:32 PM
Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

No notification if you don't have an account.

JMintzer
01-04-2023, 09:24 PM
OK, fine-----but that's a whole lot different than the previous "they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us"

But it's different only if they cancel the no show in time for someone else to use the spot...

John Mayes
01-04-2023, 09:38 PM
The group I play in uses that to hold a spot or if they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us. Have you ever had a friend set up a tee time and gave them your ID number? This is likely where it came from....

This is called “ghosting” and is highly frowned upon by the G&T office. It prevents other golfers from potentially getting a spot during high play times. If it happens on a regular basis, the person making the reservations may be flagged and receive a warning.

cypress
01-04-2023, 10:14 PM
Hopefully my last post on this matter but as I sat here thinking about this I came to this conclusion. If I let someone make a tee time with my Villages ID my number can be passed around the entire population of the villages and used to ghost tee times and hold spots for people who may or may not play in that time.
This is a very sloppy and easy to abuse method of operation. Your ID can become a commodity.

Mrs.Guy
01-04-2023, 10:47 PM
Hopefully my last post on this matter but as I sat here thinking about this I came to this conclusion. If I let someone make a tee time with my Villages ID my number can be passed around the entire population of the villages and used to ghost tee times and hold spots for people who may or may not play in that time.
This is a very sloppy and easy to abuse method of operation. Your ID can become a commodity.

:oops: Perhaps just like a GATE CARD that is cloned and sold? :undecided:

MrChip72
01-04-2023, 10:51 PM
Just checked my play history...

Can anyone here please explain how someone can check their play history?

MidWestIA
01-05-2023, 04:59 AM
With low play you get higher priority to get tee times so they use you

Papa_lecki
01-05-2023, 06:23 AM
Can anyone here please explain how someone can check their play history?

Go the TheVillages.net
Log in
Click on GOLF
The 6th option from the top is called, review your play history.

rustyp
01-05-2023, 07:09 AM
This is called “ghosting” and is highly frowned upon by the G&T office. It prevents other golfers from potentially getting a spot during high play times. If it happens on a regular basis, the person making the reservations may be flagged and receive a warning.

You are 100% correct. Usually the first offence the person who entered the ghost golfer gets a call from the tee time office and given a warning this is not allowed. If caught a second time the usual punishment is suspension of golf privileges for a period of time. The office has the ability to track if this is a certain group of golfers using this practice. Upon first offence the office will notify the person who entered the golfer to also notify all the other golfers in your group you have been warned. If a different golfer in your group now enters a ghost golfer that golfer generally will not get a warning and golf privileges suspended.

Altavia
01-05-2023, 07:10 AM
Go the TheVillages.net
Log in
Click on GOLF
The 6th option from the top is called, review your play history.

Is there a way to check online if you do not have an account?

WingedFoot78
01-05-2023, 07:22 AM
:) You left out SPECIAL and/or ENTITLED ;)

I think TV should create a new class of residents, THE ENTITLED. They should wear badges or special hats to let us lesser mortals know their lofty status.

Mrs.Guy
01-05-2023, 07:26 AM
I think TV should create a new class of residents, THE ENTITLED. They should wear badges or special hats to let us lesser mortals know their lofty status.

No need to wear badges or special hats...... you'll know who they are. :icon_wink:

Altavia
01-05-2023, 07:26 AM
Hopefully my last post on this matter but as I sat here thinking about this I came to this conclusion. If I let someone make a tee time with my Villages ID my number can be passed around the entire population of the villages and used to ghost tee times and hold spots for people who may or may not play in that time.
This is a very sloppy and easy to abuse method of operation. Your ID can become a commodity.

Somebody can miss type an ID that is yours and be assigned a time unknown to you...

Shadowrider
01-05-2023, 07:35 AM
Then they should use the indecisive players number to hold the spot. Let him get the points for not showing up.

Altavia
01-05-2023, 07:35 AM
:oops: Perhaps just like a GATE CARD that is cloned and sold? :undecided:

A gate card is a copy of a key I own for an unlocked door. So what?

Villages ID theft to ghost a time is very different.

Southwest737
01-05-2023, 07:41 AM
I routinely will “hold” a spot if for example we have 19 expected to play. But I usually do so by putting in a guest. Come the evening before the golf outing if no one becomes available to fill that spot I will delete it thus making it available for an outside single to join us. Quite often one of our players who originally could not play has a scheduling change and becomes free to play so I simply substitute them in the held spot.

Larchap49
01-05-2023, 07:49 AM
Not her. What is the reasoning behind holding a spot. Some old high school buddy may show up out of the blue and want to play random golf? Just not sure why someone would hold a spot?

Someone may be using your # because you have lass points and helps get them a tee time then substitutes the player with more points or cancels you. It is against the rules and is considered fraud and will result in suspension of golf privileges if for both of you if caught. By all means report it. Some men use their non playing wives to do that and also will result in suspension if caught.

Larchap49
01-05-2023, 07:57 AM
I routinely will “hold” a spot if for example we have 19 expected to play. But I usually do so by putting in a guest. Come the evening before the golf outing if no one becomes available to fill that spot I will delete it thus making it available for an outside single to join us. Quite often one of our players who originally could not play has a scheduling change and becomes free to play so I simply substitute them in the held spot.

That is against the rules and considered fraud by TV and will result in suspension if caught. Check your rules.

Jazzman
01-05-2023, 08:06 AM
I routinely will “hold” a spot if for example we have 19 expected to play. But I usually do so by putting in a guest. Come the evening before the golf outing if no one becomes available to fill that spot I will delete it thus making it available for an outside single to join us. Quite often one of our players who originally could not play has a scheduling change and becomes free to play so I simply substitute them in the held spot.

Seriously? 19!!!

Annie66
01-05-2023, 08:28 AM
Not her. What is the reasoning behind holding a spot. Some old high school buddy may show up out of the blue and want to play random golf? Just not sure why someone would hold a spot?

I have a neighbor that uses his wife's iD number because she plays infrequently while he accumulates 4-6 points a week. It lowers the average points with a higher probability of getting a reservation.

NoMo50
01-05-2023, 08:33 AM
I have a neighbor that uses his wife's iD number because she plays infrequently while he accumulates 4-6 points a week. It lowers the average points with a higher probability of getting a reservation.

And that is absolutely abuse of the system.

golfing eagles
01-05-2023, 08:36 AM
Somebody can miss type an ID that is yours and be assigned a time unknown to you...

That could explain once at best, but this seems to be an ongoing problem for the OP

Papa_lecki
01-05-2023, 08:41 AM
I have a neighbor that uses his wife's iD number because she plays infrequently while he accumulates 4-6 points a week. It lowers the average points with a higher probability of getting a reservation.

Here’s what should happen here- he shows up to play on his wife’s #, let him play - dont confront him.
Send his name to golf ops, look at history, and lock his account fro a week, then a month.

NoMo50
01-05-2023, 08:49 AM
To the OP: You are absolutely being used as a ghost by someone. There are many reasons for doing this, but the two most prevalent are...(1) Since you golf infrequently, the scheduling person is using your Golf ID to lower the average point value for his group, and he/she will substitute you out once the request becomes a reservation. (2) The tee time system will only allow a golfer to have ONE request in the system for any given day. If someone who is managing a group tries to make a request, and one of the golfers already has a request in the system for that day, he/she will use a ghost to make the request, and substitute the ghost for the real player once a reservation is granted.

Both of the above scenarios are definitely abuse of the system. It is a clear signal of the entitled mentality possessed by those who feel they, and their friends, should be able to play as much golf as they want...and to heck with the rules. Abusing the system in these ways prevents others from being able to possibly find a tee time, especially those who may not play frequently and are simply looking for any open tee time.

When a request is made, it turns into a reservation 3 days prior to the golf date. If someone is using a ghost to hold a tee time, and then making a substitution the day before, that effectively locks up what should be an open tee time for two days. Also, when someone is using your Golf ID as a ghost, you will receive (at a minimum) 1 point for the reservation. This is harming YOU. You should definitely report this abuse to the Golf & Tennis Administration Office at 352-753-3396. They can look back at the instances where your Golf ID was used without your knowledge and take action against the offender.

Mrs.Guy
01-05-2023, 08:51 AM
That could explain once at best, but this seems to be an ongoing problem for the OP

I agree, and the OP doesn't even have to explain or come up with a reason or excuse when he has posters doing it for him......:shrug:

arickis
01-05-2023, 09:20 AM
If i'm not mistaken, I think you need around 32 players to book one of these groups that take up all the tee times. I know for a fact that some of these groups ask friends and neighbors for their golf id numbers to fill their quota to keep their tee times. There are a lot of ghost golfers out there. People know how to work the system and do on a regular basis. It's a shame because many "real" golfers are shut out of tee times.

Flyers999
01-05-2023, 09:39 AM
To the OP: You are absolutely being used as a ghost by someone. There are many reasons for doing this, but the two most prevalent are...(1) Since you golf infrequently, the scheduling person is using your Golf ID to lower the average point value for his group, and he/she will substitute you out once the request becomes a reservation. (2) The tee time system will only allow a golfer to have ONE request in the system for any given day. If someone who is managing a group tries to make a request, and one of the golfers already has a request in the system for that day, he/she will use a ghost to make the request, and substitute the ghost for the real player once a reservation is granted.

Both of the above scenarios are definitely abuse of the system. It is a clear signal of the entitled mentality possessed by those who feel they, and their friends, should be able to play as much golf as they want...and to heck with the rules. Abusing the system in these ways prevents others from being able to possibly find a tee time, especially those who may not play frequently and are simply looking for any open tee time.

When a request is made, it turns into a reservation 3 days prior to the golf date. If someone is using a ghost to hold a tee time, and then making a substitution the day before, that effectively locks up what should be an open tee time for two days. Also, when someone is using your Golf ID as a ghost, you will receive (at a minimum) 1 point for the reservation. This is harming YOU. You should definitely report this abuse to the Golf & Tennis Administration Office at 352-753-3396. They can look back at the instances where your Golf ID was used without your knowledge and take action against the offender.

Nice rant. I agree 100%. Some want to play exec 4 or 5 times a week with a premier tee time. There's too few courses and too many golfers for that.

But I must confess, I've been guilty of this myself a few times over the years. It wasn't to get a nice tee time, it was to encourage my friend's wife to play. Long story.

Here's my solution. When someone gets cancelled they get a two-point penalty (you can correct me if I'm wrong) . This penalty goes away after seven days, I believe. Why not let the points stick until they actually show up and play? This way the points accumulate.

Romad
01-05-2023, 09:45 AM
There are a couple reasons this could happen, and not always nefarious. A group organizer could have the wrong number, and have no idea if you show up or not if the group is large enough. Or, someone could be using your number to game the system. I would watch for a reservation request, look to see who made it, report it, and if a reservation gets made, cancel it. If you can cancel the entire reservation, even better.

tophcfa
01-05-2023, 09:57 AM
With low play you get higher priority to get tee times so they use you

You are correct with executives, but with championship golf not so much. A resident with low play is still trumped by a resident who pays to be an enhanced member regardless of their play history.

BrianL99
01-05-2023, 10:02 AM
I think TV should create a new class of residents, THE ENTITLED. They should wear badges or special hats to let us lesser mortals know their lofty status.

If you're a member at Winged Foot, you already have lofty status in my opinion. What a great track!

BrianL99
01-05-2023, 10:06 AM
I have a neighbor that uses his wife's iD number because she plays infrequently while he accumulates 4-6 points a week. It lowers the average points with a higher probability of getting a reservation.

Why does the Pro Shop allow that last minute substitution?

tophcfa
01-05-2023, 10:30 AM
however, you should be able to change the foursome in your groups up to the night before

Agree with one exception. Changes to a group for Championship golf should be limited to substituting for players in the same class as defined by the t time allocation algorithm. That way 4 enhanced members ID’s can’t be used to get priority for the most desired t times and once the time is blocked off resident members and or guests can be substituted in. Better yet, they should do away with the enhanced membership t time priority feature entirely and put all villages residents on equal footing based on their play history, rather than have a pay for t time priority system.

golfing eagles
01-05-2023, 10:35 AM
Agree with one exception. Changes to a group for Championship golf should be limited to substituting for players in the same class as defined by the t time allocation algorithm. That way 4 enhanced members ID’s can’t be used to get priority for the most desired t times and once the time is blocked off resident members and or guests can be substituted in. Better yet, they should do away with the enhanced membership t time priority feature entirely and put all villages residents on equal footing based on their play history, rather than have a pay for t time priority system.

Paying for a tee time in prevalent in many parts of the country at semi-private and even some "public" courses. My nephew on Long Island's foursome pays $3,000/year to "own" a weekend tee time, and their playing season is much shorter then here. What was the quote from "Godfather I"? Oh, yes,---"Of course we would pay for such an accommodation, after all, we are no communists"

Also, keep in mind that the cost of an enhanced membership is repaid in about 55 rounds, so for someone who plays more than that would be ahead of the game

Janie123
01-05-2023, 10:41 AM
Seriously? 19!!!
The system allows to request up to 32 golfers in a group (8 foursomes).

themailman22
01-05-2023, 11:07 AM
Keep an eye on the 'REQUESTS' made under your ID#. This is the first item on the menu after signing into Villages.net and logging in under the golf tab. Any requests will show and it will be before the tee time is assigned. Once tee times are assigned, you get points. At this time, you can call the golf office and they will be able to tell you who made the request. You can cancel yourself out of the request or have them do it for you.

When we moved to The Villages, we attended The School of Good Golf. IMO, this should be mandatory before making a tee time... but I'm not in charge so it will never happen. At minimum, the booklet http://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GolfingInTheVillages.pdf
should be in the closing documents. If you've never reviewed it, please do and also keep for future reference on how things really work.

John Mayes
01-05-2023, 11:27 AM
No need to wear badges or special hats...... you'll know who they are. :icon_wink:

Amen!!!

Bogie Shooter
01-05-2023, 11:40 AM
Why does the Pro Shop allow that last minute substitution?

They will know……
Call Golf And Tennis Administration at 352-753-3396 for more information on membership enhancements or other golf/tennis issues.
For the Tee Time Office, please call 352-750-4558

Notsure
01-05-2023, 12:12 PM
I do not want to pay $8 per month for Villages.net to find out if someone is using my number. You could call tee time scheduler a few times a week to see if somebody entered your number. I have used phone system as a single female golfer to sign up ….computer randomly slots you in …ended up playing with three men who clearly did not want me in their group.

Papa_lecki
01-05-2023, 03:34 PM
Agree with one exception. Changes to a group for Championship golf should be limited to substituting for players in the same class as defined by the t time allocation algorithm. That way 4 enhanced members ID’s can’t be used to get priority for the most desired t times and once the time is blocked off resident members and or guests can be substituted in. Better yet, they should do away with the enhanced membership t time priority feature entirely and put all villages residents on equal footing based on their play history, rather than have a pay for t time priority system.

Didn’t think about that exception, but i agree. That’s fair too.

Ken D.
01-05-2023, 07:44 PM
Just checked my play history and looks like I play golf and cancel everytime once or twice a week. Who should I call to find out why this is occurring or I my card has been compromised. Why would anyone sign me up and cancel? By the way I am a very infrequent player just try to keep up on my records.
Read all the other comments/assumptions. Is there any chance you, or the starter moves you from one tee-time to another the same day? Are you assigned two cancellation points that day, or just one for the round you actually played?

DonH57
01-05-2023, 09:05 PM
I do not want to pay $8 per month for Villages.net to find out if someone is using my number. You could call tee time scheduler a few times a week to see if somebody entered your number. I have used phone system as a single female golfer to sign up ….computer randomly slots you in …ended up playing with three men who clearly did not want me in their group.

Despite the fact the villages is the friendliest hometown you will encounter people like that. I'm guessing they offered unwanted advice along the way. I'm a male golfer who occasionally fills in somewhere as a single. Only a couple of times I got paired with 3 wannabe Arnies hitting from black tees and never come close to the green. Most of all were really decent people.

MrChip72
01-05-2023, 11:34 PM
I do not want to pay $8 per month for Villages.net to find out if someone is using my number. You could call tee time scheduler a few times a week to see if somebody entered your number. I have used phone system as a single female golfer to sign up ….computer randomly slots you in …ended up playing with three men who clearly did not want me in their group.

This could all be solved if TV moved this to a modern computerized system where each golfer is emailed a confirmation after each booking or change is made. Unfortunately, there's too many apologists on here for the paid $8 system and the 1970's phone booking system.

golfing eagles
01-06-2023, 06:42 AM
This could all be solved if TV moved this to a modern computerized system where each golfer is emailed a confirmation after each booking or change is made. Unfortunately, there's too many apologists on here for the paid $8 system and the 1970's phone booking system.

Nothing wrong with the system---it's the same one used by Southwest Airlines:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

BrianL99
01-06-2023, 08:16 AM
I do not want to pay $8 per month for Villages.net to find out if someone is using my number. You could call tee time scheduler a few times a week to see if somebody entered your number. I have used phone system as a single female golfer to sign up ….computer randomly slots you in …ended up playing with three men who clearly did not want me in their group.


This could all be solved if TV moved this to a modern computerized system where each golfer is emailed a confirmation after each booking or change is made. Unfortunately, there's too many apologists on here for the paid $8 system and the 1970's phone booking system.

The system works great for me and most every other Golfer in TV. Perhaps you're experiencing User Error or don't understand the system?

Aces4
01-06-2023, 08:35 AM
This could all be solved if TV moved this to a modern computerized system where each golfer is emailed a confirmation after each booking or change is made. Unfortunately, there's too many apologists on here for the paid $8 system and the 1970's phone booking system.


Right. Everyone, gets your wallets out and get ready to pay the ongoing bump for the new fancy computer program and it’s maintenance. We all know TV won’t be eating the cost for it so add it to the amenity fees.

PoolBrews
01-06-2023, 08:37 AM
This happened to me when I dropped out of a group but they didn't remove me from their list.

A quick call to the tee time office took care of it.

Would be nice if the system automatically notified people of booked times even if they are not paying for the service.

There is an option on your account to get an email when a tee time is booked using the reservation process for your ID. From the golf menu, go to: Review/Change Personalized Settings

Note this only works for tee times made using a request. When a reservation is created (3 days or less), you get no email - not sure why, but likely due to the 1980's software they use.

Larchap49
01-06-2023, 09:05 AM
I have a neighbor that uses his wife's iD number because she plays infrequently while he accumulates 4-6 points a week. It lowers the average points with a higher probability of getting a reservation.

If I knew who he is I would report him. That is considered fraud by TV and against the rules he would be suspended if caught. I hope TV golf is monitoring this sight

Altavia
01-06-2023, 10:45 AM
Right. Everyone, gets your wallets out and get ready to pay the ongoing bump for the new fancy computer program and it’s maintenance. We all know TV won’t be eating the cost for it so add it to the amenity fees.

Well, there is a cost to cheating people out of potential tee times.

It will have to be replaced once they can't buy 5 1/2" floppies fot the IBM XT it runs on :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MrChip72
01-06-2023, 06:03 PM
Right. Everyone, gets your wallets out and get ready to pay the ongoing bump for the new fancy computer program and it’s maintenance. We all know TV won’t be eating the cost for it so add it to the amenity fees.

There's a long term cost to running an antiquated system. I can guarantee you that the current system requires maintenance and with technology in general, the older the system, the more expensive it is to maintain. With current technology, you can run a complete system without owning any physical servers as most modern companies do now. The reduced office space need and staffing savings on that part alone can make a big difference.

Ask Southwest Airlines. Also read up on how the IRS is burning a billion dollars every decade to "save money" from upgrading from their 1960's system written in COBOL.

Stepping over dollars to chase pennies.