Aging bird cage framing?

[billethkid]

Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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[Snowbirdtobe]

Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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10 years ago every time I walked out on my pool deck all I could see was hundreds of rusting screws and sagging screens.
I had my screens replaced by Todd's and I had all the rusting screws replaced at the same time. They replaced all the rusting #6 screws with #8. If they couldn't get a screw out they drilled a new hole and put in a new screw. It was a lot of work and they spent a lot more time than planned and they did a great job.

[starflyte1]

I also had all screws replaces with stainless.

[billethkid]

I also had all screws replaces with stainless.

Can you share who did the work for you or was it DIY?

[starflyte1]

Can you share who did the work for you or was it DIY?

It was about five years ago, and T & D was already working on screen cage.

[Keefelane66]

What to put between steel and aluminum

When using stainless steel fasteners with aluminum surfaces, you can prevent corrosion by placing something between the two metals. Plastic or rubber washers or gaskets are good suggestions.

Along with corrosion, discoloration of stainless steel may occur when combined with aluminum. This is also called ‘tea staining’. Discoloration can be prevented by the use of insulation and regular maintenance. Passivation can also be used to create the passive film on the fastener for better corrosion resistance.

Personally experienced this in the Military with aluminum supperstructure on vessels ALUMINUM SCREES AND RIVETS SHOULD BE USED.

[villagetinker]

I have concerns about using aluminum screws, everytime I have tried to use these they have sheared or broken off, they do not have the strength of steel or stainless steel. While I am not an expert in metal corrosion I have never seen stainless steel corrode when in contact with aluminum. In any case, I would ask an expert in birdcage design if aluminum screws would be acceptable from a load bearing consideration. Stainless steel screws are available from all of the big box stores in Phillips head, not sure I have seen hex head type. If you are doing a DIY here is what I would do: take existing steel screws out one row at a time, clean any rust stain off (try sno-cap), then dry the area and install new stainless-steel screws. Vinegar or similar weak acid MAY clean the calcium buildup, however if the original anodizing has failed some paint may be required.
I have had very poor luck with painting aluminum that has had a corrosion problem, I would suggest going to a boat repair facility to find out how they repair the paint on aluminum boats. DO NOT EVER use a STEEL tool on aluminum if you intend to paint the aluminum, the paint will fail.
Hope this helps.

[richrjones]

[QUOTE=billethkid;2173511]Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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[jswymer]

Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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:censored:I recently had my bird cage in Fort Myers restored. It included painting, screens and all screws etc. It was very reasonable but pays to get a few quotes. They also use nylon screws now, no rust.. I was told it should be good for 10 to 15 years.

[Accidental1]

FYI…Google “galvanic corrosion”. Don’t think washers between the fastener head and the aluminum will completely eliminate the problem since the stainless threads will still be in contact with the aluminum structure.

[merrymini]

If the metal is brown, you can clean the whitened build up with acetone and coat it with silicon spray. Really does a good job. It will, however, take a little of the brown paint up. Do not know how to deal with it if it is white.

[Smiley Services]

I also had all screws replaces with stainless.


This will all but certainly increase the corrosion rate, dissimilar metals, (Especially Stainless and Aluminum) corrode rapidly and seize.

[Wondering]

Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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There is a company who will replace all the screws and put plastic caps on the new screw heads. They drill out the old screws and put larger screws in their place. If you have a bronze aluminum framing, try mineral oil on the finish - it brings back the original look and mineral oil is inexpensive. Power wash first! I replaced the screws two years ago, and my cage was 12 years old. Cost about $1400. Sounds like a lot of money but count the number of screws and then price TAP-On concrete screws. I thought it was worth it.

[Ross]

Sherwin Williams has a paint that will work.
Did my bottom rail 3 yrs ago.. still good.

[Philipd411]

I am wanting to move the outside door of the cage. Is there a company I can call?

[villagetinker]

I am wanting to move the outside door of the cage. Is there a company I can call?

If you get the Daily Sun, look in the classified section you will find several screen and birdcage companies. We just had all of the roof area panels replaced (33 panels) 6 were damaged by Ian. We had 3 estimates, all with in $100 of each other, but A+ Screens provided the license and insurance information immediately. They were on time and did nice work. I believe they would also be able to move your screen door. In any case get at least 3 estimates, confirm license and insurance.

[Larchap49]

Our bird cage is 15 years old. We had all the screening replaced a couple of years ago.

Now starting to see a lot of rusting screws and a whitening of the bottom rails (not mold...more like calcium deposit).

I am not sure painting is a practical option. I am curious what others have done with their aging bird cage frame.

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Sounds like you have a pool. The white corrosion is the chlorine corroding the aluminum after a failure of the powder coating.

[Vermilion Villager]

A little off-topic but I'm actually looking to do a bird cage. Anybody recommend a contractor?

[Altavia]

A little off-topic but I'm actually looking to do a bird cage. Anybody recommend a contractor?

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