View Full Version : Why is it that Morse and Meggison are so much lower than Hy 44 at the intersections?
djlnc
01-13-2023, 08:47 PM
Is it purposely done to slow traffic or bad engineering?
mikreb
01-13-2023, 09:34 PM
No clue as to what you are asking. Lower intersections?
Stu from NYC
01-13-2023, 09:42 PM
If going at normal speed cars will bounce crossing 44 especially heading north. Always wondered why they have not fixed this
fdpaq0580
01-13-2023, 10:05 PM
If going at normal speed cars will bounce crossing 44 especially heading north. Always wondered why they have not fixed this
They tried to get by on the cheap and didn't level the intersection properly. Now it will be very expensive to make it right, if they ever do. There were a lot of problems at Powell/Signature Rd and 44. They finally fixed that, but it should have been constructed properly the first time.
Taltarzac725
01-13-2023, 10:11 PM
Where's the water go in and after a rain?
VApeople
01-13-2023, 11:07 PM
We live in Osceola Hills and we often drive across 44 on Morse road. The fact that it is uneven has never been a problem for us. There is no need to change it.
LAFwUs
01-14-2023, 01:14 AM
"...praise the Lowered"
:loco:
jimbomaybe
01-14-2023, 04:55 AM
We live in Osceola Hills and we often drive across 44 on Morse road. The fact that it is uneven has never been a problem for us. There is no need to change it.
Perhaps you are not experiencing a problem because you are traveling at the speed limit
Laker14
01-14-2023, 05:55 AM
I've never had a problem there, but then, I'm pretty sure I've never made that light.
Pballer
01-14-2023, 06:06 AM
They might try putting a right turn lane at the NW corner of Morse where it meets 44 so traffic going south bound on Morse doesn't get so backed up. There is plenty of room there for a right turn lane.
Altavia
01-14-2023, 08:15 AM
They might try putting a right turn lane at the NW corner of Morse where it meets 44 so traffic going south bound on Morse doesn't get so backed up. There is plenty of room there for a right turn lane.
They're to busy building miles of sidewalk along 44 that will never be used.
NoMo50
01-14-2023, 08:37 AM
The fact that it is uneven has never been a problem for us. There is no need to change it.
The idea that it is not a "problem" does not dismiss the fact that the surfacing at this intersection is poorly engineered. There is no valid reason for an intersection to have lanes of varying surface depths. That intersection looks like it was designed and constructed by a 3rd grader.
golfing eagles
01-14-2023, 09:00 AM
If going at normal speed cars will bounce crossing 44 especially heading north. Always wondered why they have not fixed this
Like skiing, every now and then you need to catch some air :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Bill14564
01-14-2023, 09:01 AM
The idea that it is not a "problem" does not dismiss the fact that the surfacing at this intersection is poorly engineered. There is no valid reason for an intersection to have lanes of varying surface depths. That intersection looks like it was designed and constructed by a 3rd grader.
By "no valid reason" are you saying that when 44 was designed and constructed they should have known that the Villages would build south and add four major intersections? Perhaps the "poorly engineered" intersections were engineered very well for the traffic they were intended to carry.
I don't recall the last time I went straight across 44 at any of those intersections but it doesn't appear that the slight rise towards the center of 44 would be any problem at the posted speeds of 35mph or less.
Note: If this comment and the original post were about a slight difference in the level of the roadways at the point where they meet (a small bump) then that certainly could be due to the multi-year resurfacing project for 44 from 301 to the county line.
Stu from NYC
01-14-2023, 09:03 AM
The idea that it is not a "problem" does not dismiss the fact that the surfacing at this intersection is poorly engineered. There is no valid reason for an intersection to have lanes of varying surface depths. That intersection looks like it was designed and constructed by a 3rd grader.
Why insult a third grader? My 9 year old grandson is in 3rd and could have done a better job as soon as he learned how to use a level.
Mortal1
01-14-2023, 09:13 AM
Perhaps it has nothing to do with poor engineering, but with those drivers who wish to whiz through that intersection. I've crossed it many times(and there are quite a few other intersections here about with the same design)with no issues.
I see beau coup drivers when turning left or right swing wide right to go left and wide left to go right. That is infinitely more dangerous than having an intersection that causes you to slow down. I reckon those who do swing wide left or right got the idea from watching to many car chases.
ThirdOfFive
01-14-2023, 09:33 AM
"Why is it that Morse and Meggison are so much lower than Hy 44 at the intersections?"
They're not.
Highway 44 is higher.
Rheinl271
01-15-2023, 06:47 AM
Who is they? It’s a State Highway. Call Ron
Mrmean58
01-15-2023, 07:03 AM
Is it purposely done to slow traffic or bad engineering?
The crown in 44 at those intersections help slow traffic and prevent flooding during heavy rains. If you doubt that it helps slow traffic, look at how many accidents happen at BV and 466A.
Larchap49
01-15-2023, 08:06 AM
They might try putting a right turn lane at the NW corner of Morse where it meets 44 so traffic going south bound on Morse doesn't get so backed up. There is plenty of room there for a right turn lane.
Agree 100% that was a major mistake in engineering that should be fixed
bark4me
01-15-2023, 08:21 AM
Is it purposely done to slow traffic or bad engineering?
It's like that so after you watch an episode of Dukes of Hazard, you can fly across that intersection and get some air 🤣
merrymini
01-15-2023, 08:50 AM
Not an engineer, so cannot speak to it, however, I assume that 44 cannot be tampered with and there is not enough room to bank the cross roads. Once you are aware of it, it is easy to slow down at those intersections with no problems.
LTarter
01-15-2023, 09:28 AM
That used to be railroad tracks and they didn’t lower them when the road was made into 4 lanes
VApeople
01-15-2023, 09:32 AM
Once you are aware of it, it is easy to slow down at those intersections with no problems.
You make way too much sense.
Janie123
01-15-2023, 11:02 AM
Is it purposely done to slow traffic or bad engineering?
If I had to guess, I’d say 44 is a county road and Morse and Meggison are local roads and the two never consulted when the last paving/widening was done… possibly a widening of 44 and thickening of the surface as it is not carrying lots more cars and commercial vehicles than when it was just a 2 lane road… thus removing any rise and fall of the other roads???
Mcnuke
01-15-2023, 01:56 PM
They have Opened the southern extension of Buena Vista. Now it ties in south of Brownwood onto Meggison.
Has 2 new roundabouts to nowhere (presently).
And it didn’t seem to be ‘lowered’ at SR 44.
justjim
01-15-2023, 07:19 PM
If I had to guess, I’d say 44 is a county road and Morse and Meggison are local roads and the two never consulted when the last paving/widening was done… possibly a widening of 44 and thickening of the surface as it is not carrying lots more cars and commercial vehicles than when it was just a 2 lane road… thus removing any rise and fall of the other roads???
44 is a State route for what it’s worth. The problem OP mentioned could definitely be a problem for a sports car such as a corvette or any other sports car that is very low to the ground. Since State Route 44 was built years before Morse, the country road Morse Blvd should have been build to proper grade to match 44.
Stu from NYC
01-16-2023, 11:49 AM
44 is a State route for what it’s worth. The problem OP mentioned could definitely be a problem for a sports car such as a corvette or any other sports car that is very low to the ground. Since State Route 44 was built years before Morse, the country road Morse Blvd should have been build to proper grade to match 44.
Hopefully the next time they refresh the surface they will fix this.
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