The Future of Florida

[Michael G.]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.

[gatorbill1]

Have been in Florida for over 40 years and same things you mentioned were here 40 years ago. The only thing that did change is we now have the mentality of a deep south state with the latest migration of people.

[ThirdOfFive]

The future of Florida will hinge on the foresight of our elected servants. As long as they don't give away the store trying to out-virtue one another, things should be fine.

[Kenswing]

Do you have tomorrow's topic picked out yet?

[Stu from NYC]

Will split into two states, the new one is the State of the Villages

[Dond1959]

I was born and raised in Jacksonville and lived here most of my life. I would say the most dramatic changes in my life time have occurred from Orlando and north due to growth. Orlando used to be nothing before Disney and all the other amusement park companies moved in. South Florida has always been a “pit” in my opinion (and my wife was born and raised in Miami). Florida will remain a destination for retirees and tourists as long as the COL remains affordable compared to where they came from.

All the other “issues” you list have been here forever. None of us have a crystal ball to say what is going to happen so we might as well enjoy this beautiful place that we live in and enjoy the time we have left on this earth.

[New Englander]

Do you have tomorrow's topic picked out yet?

:1rotfl:

[Keefelane66]

OP should specify it is mostly the Villages area not all of Florida. Specifically most of Florida doesn’t have sports pools, golf cart or entertainment Venus

[Aces4]

OP should specify it is mostly the Villages area not all of Florida. Specifically most of Florida doesn’t have sports pools, golf cart or entertainment Venus

Do you really believe what you just stated?

[capecoralbill]

Homeowners and automobile insurance will make Florida unaffordable, unless your income is over $400,000 a year, then you should be OK.
Many homeowners associations and condominium associations are receiving double and triple their previous premiums. And by law even if your unit has no mortgage on it, you still need to pay your condominium/HOA
insurance premiums. This is going to change Florida's affordability index by "a lot ".

[Deandd]

Most, if not all, of these issues affect the entire country. Crime, even major ones, now go unpunished/under punished … crime goes up and gets more violent … outcome as expected. The government pays more to stay home than to work .. many stay home .. expected…. More people than ever fleeing to Florida to avoid high taxes, crime, woke politics, inclement weather, etc … while it is sometimes frustrating locally it is better than the overwhelming number of alternatives … aka .. NY, NJ, Chicago, California, Portland, Minneapolis, …. I could name quite a few more …

[La lamy]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.
I'd agree with your list and add worsening weather/storms. But not in TV, please?!.....

[allsport]

Have been in Florida for over 40 years and same things you mentioned were here 40 years ago. The only thing that did change is we now have the mentality of a deep south state with the latest migration of people.

And that is a huge problem.

[midiwiz]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.

just buy on the FL/GA line it will be ocean front property sooner or later

[djplong]

Full disclosure - I turned 60 a few months ago.

Around 1990 or so, when I thought of retirement, I thought of Florida. As a child in the 60s, I lived in Miami Beach for a while. I'd been back to Florida a few times and liked it. I'd look at a map and found what I thought was the perfect combination of what I was looking for when it came to location. Claremont FL.

In 1991, I found my birth parents (I was adopted) and it turned out my father lived in Florida. I went for a visit to Inverness and noticed that I could take a route through Claremont to get there from where I was (on a leisure trip for a convention). I liked what I saw and I kinda stored that away for future reference..

Set the wayback machine something over 15 years later. Again, I'm heading to Inverness. Again, coming from the Orlando area (I live in NH) I decide to go through Claremont.

It was... Depressing. All the orange groves were gone. Strip malls, parking lots and cookie cutter developments blanketed the area. I literally felt the little dream I had evaporate in my head as I drove through.

So, I have no idea where I'm going to retire to... And I'm running out of time to decide...

[coconutmama]

I'd agree with your list and add worsening weather/storms. But not in TV, please?!.....

Yes. Agree.

Plus more homelessness, more aggressive drivers & less education

[GizmoWhiskers]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.
I for one am concerned about the attitude of those who say "who cares about what happens in the future, we will all be dead anyway." Selfish to the core. Woke-dumb is a threat to the nation and FL. T V is turning into nothing more than an opportunity to be landlords. I get your concerns.

[defrey12]

i was born and raised in jacksonville and lived here most of my life. I would say the most dramatic changes in my life time have occurred from orlando and north due to growth. Orlando used to be nothing before disney and all the other amusement park companies moved in. South florida has always been a “pit” in my opinion (and my wife was born and raised in miami). Florida will remain a destination for retirees and tourists as long as the col remains affordable compared to where they came from.

All the other “issues” you list have been here forever. None of us have a crystal ball to say what is going to happen so we might as well enjoy this beautiful place that we live in and enjoy the time we have left on this earth.

go jags!

[Ptmckiou]

Most, if not all, of these issues affect the entire country. Crime, even major ones, now go unpunished/under punished … crime goes up and gets more violent … outcome as expected. The government pays more to stay home than to work .. many stay home .. expected…. More people than ever fleeing to Florida to avoid high taxes, crime, woke politics, inclement weather, etc … while it is sometimes frustrating locally it is better than the overwhelming number of alternatives … aka .. NY, NJ, Chicago, California, Portland, Minneapolis, …. I could name quite a few more …

Major crimes go unpunished because these days, it’s who you know, or how good your attorney is at finding loopholes. Poor people that commit crimes are locked up for years, where a wealthy person is locked up for 5 months for the same crime. The inconsistency has always been there.

There is no avoiding crimes. Doesn’t matter what state, or what major city, or it’s politics. All major cities have crime and homelessness. I lived in Los Angeles for 35 years and never once experienced any crime. It was there, like any city, but you know in any city not to go walking alone after dark downtown….whether it’s Kansas City, Huntsville, or Jacksonville.

Get over the fact that during COVID people got perks because their jobs shut down for months. Deal with it. It was the moral thing to do…to help them. Now, people are working and LOW unemployment. Most nonservice jobs switched their workers to working from home, rather than an office. That will never change. It was the right thing to do. From here forward , we will always need workers for service jobs, because those are the lowest paid, and you can’t work from home. Who wants that, when you can get a job working from home these days? Who wants to wait on tables, when you can set your own hours, have your kids with you, and do shopping and deliveries for other people whenever you want to do it (Instacart) and make as much or more money?

Now…explain to me what “woke” exactly means, because the opposite of “woke”, is to be “asleep”,

[PoolBrews]

Claremont FL.



FYI - it's Clermont. You can still find what you described, just not in that area.

[Caymus]

Full disclosure - I turned 60 a few months ago.

Around 1990 or so, when I thought of retirement, I thought of Florida. As a child in the 60s, I lived in Miami Beach for a while. I'd been back to Florida a few times and liked it. I'd look at a map and found what I thought was the perfect combination of what I was looking for when it came to location. Claremont FL.

In 1991, I found my birth parents (I was adopted) and it turned out my father lived in Florida. I went for a visit to Inverness and noticed that I could take a route through Claremont to get there from where I was (on a leisure trip for a convention). I liked what I saw and I kinda stored that away for future reference..

Set the wayback machine something over 15 years later. Again, I'm heading to Inverness. Again, coming from the Orlando area (I live in NH) I decide to go through Claremont.

It was... Depressing. All the orange groves were gone. Strip malls, parking lots and cookie cutter developments blanketed the area. I literally felt the little dream I had evaporate in my head as I drove through.

So, I have no idea where I'm going to retire to... And I'm running out of time to decide...

NH would be the perfect place to retire (if it was 10 to 20 degrees warmer).

[ThirdOfFive]

Major crimes go unpunished because these days, it’s who you know, or how good your attorney is at finding loopholes. Poor people that commit crimes are locked up for years, where a wealthy person is locked up for 5 months for the same crime. The inconsistency has always been there.

There is no avoiding crimes. Doesn’t matter what state, or what major city, or it’s politics. All major cities have crime and homelessness. I lived in Los Angeles for 35 years and never once experienced any crime. It was there, like any city, but you know in any city not to go walking alone after dark downtown….whether it’s Kansas City, Huntsville, or Jacksonville.

Get over the fact that during COVID people got perks because their jobs shut down for months. Deal with it. It was the moral thing to do…to help them. Now, people are working and LOW unemployment. Most nonservice jobs switched their workers to working from home, rather than an office. That will never change. It was the right thing to do. From here forward , we will always need workers for service jobs, because those are the lowest paid, and you can’t work from home. Who wants that, when you can get a job working from home these days? Who wants to wait on tables, when you can set your own hours, have your kids with you, and do shopping and deliveries for other people whenever you want to do it (Instacart) and make as much or more money?

Now…explain to me what “woke” exactly means, because the opposite of “woke”, is to be “asleep”,

Not so sure about that. Prior to coming here I utilized my MN permit-to-carry on a daily basis. Here, even though I have a Florida permit, I haven't even carried once. Just haven't felt the need.

In my opinion this has everything to do with the local law enforcement. They obviously know who the petty troublemakers are, and keep the heat turned up on them. I read V - N on a daily basis; I don't know how many times I've read articles about someone being stopped for no license plate illumination, inappropriately stopping at a stop sign, etc. etc., followed by a drug dog "alerting" to the vehicle with the occupant(s) then being arrested for possession, drug paraphernalia, illegal weapons, you name it. But the point is, virtually all the articles in that particular publication are similar to this; virtually all petty crime. Possession. Shoplifting. Drunk and disorderly. Things that wouldn't even be mentioned should they occur in the northern cities that many of us come from.

Florida, at least around here, values its law-enforcement officers and supports them. As long as that continues I really don't see crime becoming a major issue around here.

[chrissy2231]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.
I'm glad I'm closer to the end than the beginning.

[Daxdog]

I’m sorry, but I’m retired (26 1/2 years in the USAF), haven’t missed any meals got a great wife, cute dog means to defend my wife and dog, why should I worry about all this stuff? Can’t do much if anything about it, most of the people that can are corrupt only care about how to stay in power. So be nice to one another and be happy!

[airstreamingypsy]

Now…explain to me what “woke” exactly means, because the opposite of “woke”, is to be “asleep”,

That's easy, woke is being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice). I'll never understand why caring about others is considered a bad thing.

[srswans]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.

I’ve only been here two years but don’t I don’t see these problems. Sure, inflation is high at the moment and but that’s all cyclical.

Stop doom scrolling and get out and enjoy life. I do.

[Karmanng]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?

Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone,
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects:

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports),
crowds at entertainment venues,
prices of housing,
Unemployment,
crowded health care centers,
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food,
rising sea water reducing building lots,
out of control insurance rates, home and auto,
increase in crime.


Dont worry about it unless you want to live in a cave! Nothing anyone can do but to thank the admin for opening up the borders. Its not different or any better here in ARizona either............my ins just got hit with a 300 raise! on the house. Our crime is going up wrong way drivers at least once a week if not more hit and runs quite oftern high heat levels and did I say NO water? we are running quite low but yet they keep building! I bought In TV and noticed things that we dont have here. Traffic was much lighter too......homes are half the price of what you pay here!

[Karmanng]

Full disclosure - I turned 60 a few months ago.

Around 1990 or so, when I thought of retirement, I thought of Florida. As a child in the 60s, I lived in Miami Beach for a while. I'd been back to Florida a few times and liked it. I'd look at a map and found what I thought was the perfect combination of what I was looking for when it came to location. Claremont FL.

In 1991, I found my birth parents (I was adopted) and it turned out my father lived in Florida. I went for a visit to Inverness and noticed that I could take a route through Claremont to get there from where I was (on a leisure trip for a convention). I liked what I saw and I kinda stored that away for future reference..

Set the wayback machine something over 15 years later. Again, I'm heading to Inverness. Again, coming from the Orlando area (I live in NH) I decide to go through Claremont.

It was... Depressing. All the orange groves were gone. Strip malls, parking lots and cookie cutter developments blanketed the area. I literally felt the little dream I had evaporate in my head as I drove through.

So, I have no idea where I'm going to retire to... And I'm running out of time to decide...


Dont bother to come to ARizona! We are over crowded things have changed alot here since 95 crazy drivers Californians moving here very high home prices that are out of reach along with the rents NO WATER we are in a shortage and have been asked to reduce use we are now a BLUE state ugh home ins got raised........Yes its a bit cheaper than Florida but Arizona is out growing it self with not much to do but stay indoors from April or May till October........BTW not many are that friendly here either.........I bought in florida. I cant downsize here at all......let alone have 3,000 clubs

[Bogie Shooter]

Dont bother to come to ARizona! We are over crowded things have changed alot here since 95 crazy drivers Californians moving here very high home prices that are out of reach along with the rents NO WATER we are in a shortage and have been asked to reduce use we are now a BLUE state ugh home ins got raised........Yes its a bit cheaper than Florida but Arizona is out growing it self with not much to do but stay indoors from April or May till October........BTW not many are that friendly here either.........I bought in florida. I cant downsize here at all......let alone have 3,000 clubs

Wow, that’s a really long sentence.

[Wondering]

Have been in Florida for over 40 years and same things you mentioned were here 40 years ago. The only thing that did change is we now have the mentality of a deep south state with the latest migration of people.
Her point/concern is well taken. Florida has changed quite a bit in 40 years. It's population has more than doubled, which causes the problems that the original post brings to light!

[chrisinva]

FL is the new CA.

[Kenswing]

FL is the new CA.

Not even close.

[Whitley]

That's easy, woke is being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice). I'll never understand why caring about others is considered a bad thing.

Excellent that you stepped up and gave a definition of woke. Can you tackle "What is a woman"? That seems to be difficult for some to define today as well.

[pablo cruze]

What's your gut feeling about the future of state of Florida?
It will be great - that's why people move here.
Maybe it's something at our age we shouldn't concern ourselves with now because we'll be long gone, That is short sighted.
but my list below seems to be coming faster every year.
The population growth from people moving in the state is running wild which effects: It's worse when people leave some states. In the 70's and 80's people left Michigan to go to Texas; Michigan is only beginning to recover, as businesses are working to reinvigorate metro Detroit...and now look how excellent Texas is..

traffic, (including golfcarts and water sports), doesn't seem bad unless there is an evacuation. Have you driven in Atlanta or Cincinnati? I don't understand watersport traffic???
crowds at entertainment venues, Ain't that a GOOD thing? I haven't seen many large crowds. Here in the Villages, it's great that there are so many places that if one area is crowded, it's a short trip to another venue.
prices of housing, Shouldn't that REDUCE the influx of people? I think homeowners would want their investment to increase - I certainly do.
Unemployment, - I think that will be a concern everywhere. If not, then the people will move to the states or countries where the jobs are.
crowded health care centers, I expect that the HC industry will capitalize and build more facilities.
overcrowded restaurants with poor service or food, My house has a great kitchen, and I'm building one outside. If I eat out and get poor service or food, I go elsewhere next time - I don't understand why people would wait in line for bad food / service. I don't mind waiting if the food is great.
rising sea water reducing building lots, google Palm Island - Dubai
out of control insurance rates, home and auto, This is a problem everywhere in the US. The insurance companies must have great lobbyists. I don't have a solution to fix this fraudulent business
increase in crime. it might be a result of federal administration celebrating criminals over law enforcement. Not as big of a problem in FL as some states. Maybe our borders need reinforcement to keep out criminals and terrorists

If I knew someone that had a gut feeling that the outlook of living in Florida was going to be bad, I'd ask them where they'd like to move, and what is preventing this action.

That is all.

[pablo cruze]

FL is the new CA.
Good one,! I expect you're referencing 1849.

[B-flat]

FL is the new CA.

In 1976 we took a cross-country trip in a 1970 Dodge Tradesman 100 van. While driving in Northern California I remember seeing bumper stickers that read "Don't Californianite Oregon. I say don't Californianite Florida.

[BaylorBear]

FL is the new CA.
God forbid!

[Daxdog]

Woke is really “I’m more important than you, my feelings are the most important thing in the world!” Well snowflake, you earn respect, respect me and I will respect you.

[ThirdOfFive]

Woke is really “I’m more important than you, my feelings are the most important thing in the world!” Well snowflake, you earn respect, respect me and I will respect you.
Bingo.

[VApeople]

That's easy, woke is being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice). I'll never understand why caring about others is considered a bad thing.

Caring about others is not a bad thing, if that is what you want to do.

Many of us are well informed but do not care to be "actively attentive to important societal facts and issues". We just want to enjoy our lives.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

As long as the peninsula doesn't sink with all the new people, I think it will be pretty good, though maybe there are better locations than here. . .

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Excellent that you stepped up and gave a definition of woke. Can you tackle "What is a woman"? That seems to be difficult for some to define today as well.

It's off topic, and has nothing to do with the state of Florida, unless you have a problem with women. In which case - there are a few men-only resorts in the Keys you might prefer.

[jimjamuser]

it might be a result of federal administration celebrating criminals over law enforcement. Not as big of a problem in FL as some states. Maybe our borders need reinforcement to keep out criminals and terrorists

If I knew someone that had a gut feeling that the outlook of living in Florida was going to be bad, I'd ask them where they'd like to move, and what is preventing this action.

That is all.
Insurance rates are higher in Florida because of greater chance of larger hurricanes with warmer Gulf water due to GLOBAL WARMING. Also, the older population drives up car insurance as does increasing population.

[jimjamuser]

I would advise you NOT to pick Florida for full-time living because with Global Warming the summers will be too hot to enjoy. If full-time, try either the Carolinas or Tn., but pick a college town away from the rednecks.

[jimjamuser]

Not so sure about that. Prior to coming here I utilized my MN permit-to-carry on a daily basis. Here, even though I have a Florida permit, I haven't even carried once. Just haven't felt the need.

In my opinion this has everything to do with the local law enforcement. They obviously know who the petty troublemakers are, and keep the heat turned up on them. I read V - N on a daily basis; I don't know how many times I've read articles about someone being stopped for no license plate illumination, inappropriately stopping at a stop sign, etc. etc., followed by a drug dog "alerting" to the vehicle with the occupant(s) then being arrested for possession, drug paraphernalia, illegal weapons, you name it. But the point is, virtually all the articles in that particular publication are similar to this; virtually all petty crime. Possession. Shoplifting. Drunk and disorderly. Things that wouldn't even be mentioned should they occur in the northern cities that many of us come from.

Florida, at least around here, values its law-enforcement officers and supports them. As long as that continues I really don't see crime becoming a major issue around here.
I am just asking a civil question. If there are so many good young law enforcement officers in the Village bubble, why did we just a few days ago have threads about a bad intersection and speeding and hazardous driving. maybe the bubble of old people is just EASIER to Police due to LESS serious, violent crimes. Thank you!

[jimjamuser]

I’ve only been here two years but don’t I don’t see these problems. Sure, inflation is high at the moment and but that’s all cyclical.

Stop doom scrolling and get out and enjoy life. I do.
Those are REAL problems.

[jimjamuser]

Dont bother to come to ARizona! We are over crowded things have changed alot here since 95 crazy drivers Californians moving here very high home prices that are out of reach along with the rents NO WATER we are in a shortage and have been asked to reduce use we are now a BLUE state ugh home ins got raised........Yes its a bit cheaper than Florida but Arizona is out growing it self with not much to do but stay indoors from April or May till October........BTW not many are that friendly here either.........I bought in florida. I cant downsize here at all......let alone have 3,000 clubs
I noticed lots of UNFRIENDLY people when I lived in Az. 10 years ago.

[jimjamuser]

Her point/concern is well taken. Florida has changed quite a bit in 40 years. It's population has more than doubled, which causes the problems that the original post brings to light!
True about population. Difficult to pin down the optimum population for EITHER the US or Florida. Would need a sophisticated computer program to determine at what population you would have the maximum Quality of Life ?
......Very few people are willing to think in those terms. Is a bigger world a better world to live in and does MORE population jack up the GNP or SNP so people think that it makes for a better economy. But, better for who, what slice of the population ??????

[JMintzer]

I am just asking a civil question. If there are so many good law enforcement officers in the Village bubble, why did we just a few days ago have threads about a bad intersection and speeding and hazardous driving. maybe the bubble of old people is just EASIER to Police due to LESS serious, violent crimes. Thank you!

Maybe because the "good law enforcement officers living in the Village bubble ARE RETIRED? And they no longer have any power to enforce the laws?

I fail to see the "logic" in your conclusion... You're welcome!

[inda50]

I’m sorry, but I’m retired (26 1/2 years in the USAF), haven’t missed any meals got a great wife, cute dog means to defend my wife and dog, why should I worry about all this stuff? Can’t do much if anything about it, most of the people that can are corrupt only care about how to stay in power. So be nice to one another and be happy!

I think I need to get a dog.

[jimjamuser]

The future of Florida is NOT so bright that the state "has to wear shades". The summers are going to be PREDICTED to be record HOT for the next 30 years. Which means very hot Gulf water and the Atlantic current. Which means large, killer hurricanes like IAN recently. If there is a worldwide recession in 2023, that would mean that tourism will be down. That means less sales tax revenue, which means less state funds to build more needed lanes on the now overcrowded highways. It means lower teacher raises and fewer new schools built and less money for older school repairs. Florida school children will be shortchanged and will drop in National Test results.
......LARGE DIGITAL technical companies and employers will NOT want to locate in Florida because they will NOT be able to get enough sharp high school graduates to train in their demanding industries. Florida college graduates will head NORTH for better-paying positions in more innovative companies.
......More and more Florida will be a place for retired seniors that can afford 2 homes and be snowbirds. Because Florida summers will be awfully HOT and DANGEROUS with respect to Hurricanes.
.......Also a recession in 2024 could cause homelessness, poverty, and crime to increase.

[mtdjed]

We should all remember that when you choose to live somewhere, that you made that decision at a moment of time. You did not buy or move into a stationary time machine. Life goes on and if you don't like the current time in that decision, you are free to find a new moment in time and location.

Found a good book (fiction - A Land Remembered by Patrick Smith) that attempts to define moments of time in Florida from about 1860 onto the early 1900s. Talk about Change!

You have decisions that you can make. You can live with your choice and moment of time as it evolves, move to a new moment of time. or even move back in time. Try McCanopy.

Be happy or make a change to be happy.

[sounding]

I'd agree with your list and add worsening weather/storms. But not in TV, please?!.....

The media claims worsening weather/climate -- but the data shows otherwise. Our climate is actually getting better, thanks to global warming and more CO2. Find out more at the Villages Weather Club ... The Villages Weather Club (https://www.theweatherclubvillages.com/)

[ThirdOfFive]

Excellent that you stepped up and gave a definition of woke. Can you tackle "What is a woman"? That seems to be difficult for some to define today as well.
"(She) can bring home the bacon,
fry it up in a pan.
And never ever let you forget you're a man!
'Cause (she's) a WOMAN.
W-0-M-A-N
I say it again....

[MrFlorida]

Do you have tomorrow's topic picked out yet?

I was thinking the same thing.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Except California doesn’t have book bans or bans on learning certain American History. Oh and if you disagree, you’ll get fired or hv your special self governance threatened. Who cares, we’ll be dead by then. FL is the new CA.

[ThirdOfFive]

The media claims worsening weather/climate -- but the data shows otherwise. Our climate is actually getting better, thanks to global warming and more CO2. Find out more at the Villages Weather Club ... The Villages Weather Club (https://www.theweatherclubvillages.com/)
Yeah. Those Chicken Littles have been out there squalling their warnings about the sky being about ready to fall since Katrina. I remember it well. The doom-and-gloomers were foreseeing an avalanche of FORCE TWENTY HURRICANES for GAWDsakes and we were all GONNA DIEEEEEEE or at least get very, very wet. Didn't happen, of course. In fact, Katrina ushered in an extended period extending well over a decade plus some years, where hurricanes making landfall in Florida were notorious by their rarity.

The doom-and-gloomers will always be there. For me, I choose not to live in fear.

[PersonOfInterest]

I for one am concerned about the attitude of those who say "who cares about what happens in the future, we will all be dead anyway." Selfish to the core. Woke-dumb is a threat to the nation and FL. T V is turning into nothing more than an opportunity to be landlords. I get your concerns.

What's wrong with the attitude of "who cares about the future we'll all be dead anyway". ? I see just as much concern over those who think they can change things for future generations. Please feel free to devote as much time and energy as you'd like in changing things for the future. I'd rather spend my retirement playing pickleball and doing line dancing in the squares.