United Nations Declares Guns Control Weather

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The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

[Taltarzac725]

The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

Nuclear weapons is probably what they mean and the possible use of these. Not guns in terms of rifles, shotguns, pistols, muskets, etc. Disarmament | United Nations (https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/disarmament)

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Nuclear weapons is probably what they mean and the possible use of these. Not guns in terms of rifles, shotguns, pistols, muskets, etc. Disarmament | United Nations (https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/disarmament)

Nuclear "was" the original intent, but has since gone far beyond. UNODA, which helped draft the Disarmament Handbook says this ... “The branch {UNODA} is the lead agency of the Coordinating Action on Small Arms (CASA) mechanism, which was established by the Secretary-General in 1998 to harmonize policy and coordinate action by the various UN agencies working in this field.” Note the "small arms" phrase. The talk will show related gun/climate UN agendas.

[Two Bills]

Here we go again!

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;"

[Battlebasset]

I suppose anything that creates carbon/greenhouse could be included. Guns would when they are manufactured, and when a round is fired

But to single out guns is silly. Everything produces carbon/greenhouse as it is created, some may or may not as they are used. All organic matter creates carbon/greenhouse gas as it decays, and I suppose a gun would as it rusts, or if it is melted down to create something else.

Climate change makes me think of the "elixir salesman" as he would go from town to town. His pitch was his elixir would cure everything, regardless of what it was. Climate change is the current "cure-all" product. Another word for such a product is snake oil.

Which is kind of what climate change is.

[D&BSmith]

Please, just let me know which guns to shoot and how often to have warm, sunny weather.

[sounding]

Here we go again!

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;"

Not again -- but more -- thanks to the UN. Their "knotted gun" sculpture clearly demonstrates how disarmament will make our weather better ... The Knotted Gun Sculpture, United Nations Headquarters – History of New York (https://www.historyofnewyork.org/the-knotted-gun-sculpture-united-nations-headquarters/)

[Two Bills]

Not again -- but more -- thanks to the UN. Their "knotted gun" sculpture clearly demonstrates how disarmament will make our weather better ... The Knotted Gun Sculpture, United Nations Headquarters – History of New York (https://www.historyofnewyork.org/the-knotted-gun-sculpture-united-nations-headquarters/)

Silly me!
I thought your post was listed under "Poetic License!" :smiley:

[Taltarzac725]

Not again -- but more -- thanks to the UN. Their "knotted gun" sculpture clearly demonstrates how disarmament will make our weather better ... The Knotted Gun Sculpture, United Nations Headquarters – History of New York (https://www.historyofnewyork.org/the-knotted-gun-sculpture-united-nations-headquarters/)

That sculpture is about the murder of John Lennon.

This sculpture is called “the knotted gun” located outside the United Nations headquarters. It was designed by Swedish artist Carl Fredrik Reutersward as a tribute to his friend John Lennon after he was shot and killed in New York in 1980. John Lennon was an advocate of peace which was evident in the lyrics of many of his songs both with The Beatles as well as with his wife Yoko Ono.

From the link you supplied.

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That sculpture is about the murder of John Lennon.

That's funny -- it doesn't at all look like Lennon -- nor does it explain how it will protect the climate and save our weather.

[Taltarzac725]

That's funny -- it doesn't at all look like Lennon -- nor does it explain how it will protect the climate and save our weather.

This sculpture is called “the knotted gun” located outside the United Nations headquarters. It was designed by Swedish artist Carl Fredrik Reutersward as a tribute to his friend John Lennon after he was shot and killed in New York in 1980. John Lennon was an advocate of peace which was evident in the lyrics of many of his songs both with The Beatles as well as with his wife Yoko Ono.

From the link you supplied.

[golfing eagles]

The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

I'd respond to this idiocy, but I'm too busy rolling on the floor laughing :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ThirdOfFive]

I'd respond to this idiocy, but I'm too busy rolling on the floor laughing :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Ditto.

[Chi-Town]

What cracks me up is a gun club meeting to discuss climate change. Probably a club of one.

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What cracks me up is a gun club meeting to discuss climate change. Probably a club of one.

Yes it is funny -- in that the UN thinks guns control weather.

[Taltarzac725]

Yes it is funny -- in that the UN thinks guns control weather.

They do not unless it fires a nuclear powered shell of some kind. And that would be called a missile.

[golfing eagles]

They do not unless it fires a nuclear powered shell of some kind. And that would be called a missile.

And then the nuclear winter could offset the "man made" (:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:) global warming and we'd be climate neutral

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They do not unless it fires a nuclear powered shell of some kind. And that would be called a missile.

The devil is in the details of the UN Handbook ... https://disarmamenthandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/disarmament-handbook-2020_v07.pdf

[Taltarzac725]

The devil is in the details of the UN Handbook ... https://disarmamenthandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/disarmament-handbook-2020_v07.pdf

If you mean things like gun runners making profit by wars in various places and the United Nations attempts to control that trade. Small arms are involved. Has nothing to do with global warming though. I suppose it kills farmers and others who could have be doing something to improve the environment by planting things that put beneficial gases into the atmosphere. A lot of the wars involved the use of edged weapons.

[golfing eagles]

If you mean things like gun runners making profit by wars in various places and the United Nations attempts to control that trade. Small arms are involved. Has nothing to do with global warming though. I suppose it kills farmers and others who could have be doing something to improve the environment by planting things that put beneficial gases into the atmosphere. A lot of the wars involved the use of edged weapons.

Let me guess: The UN thinks edged weapons are forged in a furnace that emits CO2 and therefore causes global warming?????? I wonder how they rank that, above or below cow farts????

[Taltarzac725]

Let me guess: The UN thinks edged weapons are forged in a furnace that emits CO2 and therefore causes global warming?????? I wonder how they rank that, above or below cow farts????

Maybe if they hit and kill a cow instead of another soldier with the bullets?

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Let me guess: The UN thinks edged weapons are forged in a furnace that emits CO2 and therefore causes global warming?????? I wonder how they rank that, above or below cow farts????

Believe it or not, the EPA (another climate alarmist agency) detected CO2 and Methane emissions from bullets. Now folks are claiming climate harm from target practice. But, in reality, if those teeny-weeny emissions are indeed affecting the climate -- it's in a good way because more warmth and more CO2 is desirable for a healthier planet. Unfortunately, they are not helping enough because the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years.

[JMintzer]

Believe it or not, the EPA (another climate alarmist agency) detected CO2 and Methane emissions from bullets. Now folks are claiming climate harm from target practice. But, in reality, if those teeny-weeny emissions are indeed affecting the climate -- it's in a good way because more warmth and more CO2 is desirable for a healthier planet. Unfortunately, they are not helping enough because the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years.

My Psychiatrist recommends aroma therapy...

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[RickyLee]

What cracks me up is a gun club meeting to discuss climate change. Probably a club of one.

Not exactly, there's millions of us that know what the goal of the UN is

[Worldseries27]

The return of the circular firing squad episode ad infinitum⁹⁹⁹ x pi

[NotGolfer]

I'd heard that cows farting is what causes climate change. Those darn cows!!

[Andyb]

Just an excuse to further their control agenda.

“Noah was a conspiracy theorist….and then it rained”.

[Bay Kid]

Private jets flying all over the world to talk about climate change create climate change. Hypocrites.

[Janie123]

Believe it or not, the EPA (another climate alarmist agency) detected CO2 and Methane emissions from bullets. Now folks are claiming climate harm from target practice. But, in reality, if those teeny-weeny emissions are indeed affecting the climate -- it's in a good way because more warmth and more CO2 is desirable for a healthier planet. Unfortunately, they are not helping enough because the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years.
Let’s just do target practice in the woods… then the trees will suck up all the CO2 and make more O2… win win…

[Regorp]

The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).
Thanks for providing the comical moment of the day!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If they're referring to nuclear weapons, would this also apply to nuclear power plants?

[jimjamuser]

Please, just let me know which guns to shoot and how often to have warm, sunny weather.
You will get your Warm sunny days here in the summer (IN SPADES). Actually, it will likely be hotter than last summer because the world has been HEATING up for the last 8 years CONTRARY to the statement in the thread starter and that ridiculous graph shown. All you all - put on your best tin-foil hats and meet at Eisenhower on Jan 23!

[golfing eagles]

You will get your Warm sunny days here in the summer (IN SPADES). Actually, it will likely be hotter than last summer because the world has been HEATING up for the last 8 years CONTRARY to the statement in the thread starter and that ridiculous graph shown. All you all - put on your best tin-foil hats and meet at Eisenhower on Jan 23!

Heating up for the last 8 years???? It's been heating up for the last 23,000 years. And it will continue to heat up for another 20-25,000 years. And guess what---it happened without any help from humans. But it's OK, in 25,000 years it will start cooling again so that 50,000 years from now NY City will again be under 2 miles of ice. And the same people (well, actually their descendants) will be complaining that snowmobile emissions cause global warming.

[jimjamuser]

Yes it is funny -- in that the UN thinks guns control weather.
ORDINARY guns will NOT affect weather, but a full-out nuclear war will. Scientists take about a nuclear winter after WW3......that would be some serious Climate Change. I worry that there has been so many apocalypse-type movies and series lately that maybe that is giving a prediction that I HOPE never comes true.
But, the recent war in the Ukraine has caused some problems that could affect Global Warming somewhat. There are or were (may have been plugged) 3 holes in a natural gas pipeline lying at the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. It sent Russian natural gas to Europe. The pipe was in VERY deep water and probably needed a special submarine to blow those 3 holes. Russia was suspected of doing it itself to drive up the world price for natural gas.
........Anyway, the 3 holes were (or still are) GUSHING gas that rises to the upper atmosphere and adds to the blanket that IS making the world hotter by record amounts in the last 8 years. (Despite the opinion to the contrary expressed by my friends with the fashionable TIN-FOIL hats !!!!!!! )

One BIG problem with Global Warming today is that it causes farmers and other poor populations in South America and Africa to start starving and begin MIGRATING northward into America and Europe. If they succeed in getting there they will INCREASE their environmental FOOTPRINT greatly - producing GREATER pollution, which AGAIN goes up to the upper atmosphere and acts as a BLANKET holding in the Earth's heat. It is sad from a humanitarian perspective, but don't blame me.......I am just the messenger.

[jimjamuser]

Cow flatulence is way up at the top of that list. That is why many environmentalists are Not suggesting that people give up eating red meat.......rather to substitute sometimes during the week by eating plant-based protein like BEYOND MEAT.

[jimjamuser]

My Psychiatrist recommends aroma therapy...

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Congratulations that one was ACTUALLY funny.......its been awhile.

[jimjamuser]

Not exactly, there's millions of us that know what the goal of the UN is
Or maybe what a lot of people KNOW is what the NRA has told them they should KNOW about the UN.

[jimjamuser]

Until the common population is unarmed, the government can't control them. Therefore, the government can't adjust history or make people believe what the government says. Read Orwell's 1984 (maybe again). Against the world event today, too much rings true for him not to have somehow foreseen the future. See if you can find the Ministries of Truth and Love budding in today's world.
Guns are fine with me as long as they have a purpose. I feel that sporting bolt action rifles have a purpose. But, military-style semi-autos and bump-stops are NOT useful other than making the NRA and their controllers - the rich, fat-cat owners of the gun industry WEALTHY.
.......But, unfortunately, the John Wayne cowboy frontier mentality is ingrained into Americans. It has captured their minds !

[jimjamuser]

Private jets flying all over the world to talk about climate change create climate change. Hypocrites.
Electric aircraft are being developed and tested as we speak. The FUTURE of aviation could be more environmentally friendly........we can hope !

[jimjamuser]

If they're referring to nuclear weapons, would this also apply to nuclear power plants?
Just yesterday Oliver Stone spoke at Davos about the REAL practical SAFETY of nuclear power plants. The oil and gas industries have spent a lot of MONEY to convince people that nuclear plants are dangerous. Stone said that the new-generation nuclear power plants are safe.
One fact that many people are NOT aware of is that natural gas has tons of leaks in the US and other countries from the pipes that are bringing the natural gas from a field source to a customer's home. Gas pipes and appliances EXPLODE often and they are hurting the upper atmosphere. Those problems MAY be WAY greater than risks from the new generation nuclear electric plants. Google Oliver Stone at Davos.

[golfing eagles]

Just yesterday Oliver Stone spoke at Davos about the REAL practical SAFETY of nuclear power plants. The oil and gas industries have spent a lot of MONEY to convince people that nuclear plants are dangerous. Stone said that the new-generation nuclear power plants are safe.
One fact that many people are NOT aware of is that natural gas has tons of leaks in the US and other countries from the pipes that are bringing the natural gas from a field source to a customer's home. Gas pipes and appliances EXPLODE often and they are hurting the upper atmosphere. Those problems MAY be WAY greater than risks from the new generation nuclear electric plants. Google Oliver Stone at Davos.

Yep, Oliver Stone. He's my source for factual and unbiased information :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[DAVES]

The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

I think this post is a mistake. Imagine a bunch of people who believe this stuff showing up at a Straight Shooters meeting. Perhaps, wiser would be a prepared presentation to some of the discussion groups in the villages. The antigun zealots would love to cause a RIOT at a Straight Shooters meeting.

As far as climate change, I find it interesting. First of all it was GLOBAL WARMING now it has changed to CLIMATE CHANGE. Climate is and always has been changing.

I find it spooky how easy it is to start panics. Al Gore has turned this into a personal gold mine. Reality, I suggest all READ. Fifty years ago the concern was global cooling.
Lacking was only Al Gore to fly in his own personal Jet to tell others we should not burn fossil fuels. It is tough for people to see, to realize they are being had especially when others are PARROTING the same. Far as fossil fuels my carbon foot print is vastly reduced. I am retired and no longer producing anything.

Anybody remember Y2K? Space Invaders? Covid 19? It is shockingly to create MASS PANIC.

[DAVES]

Just yesterday Oliver Stone spoke at Davos about the REAL practical SAFETY of nuclear power plants. The oil and gas industries have spent a lot of MONEY to convince people that nuclear plants are dangerous. Stone said that the new-generation nuclear power plants are safe.
One fact that many people are NOT aware of is that natural gas has tons of leaks in the US and other countries from the pipes that are bringing the natural gas from a field source to a customer's home. Gas pipes and appliances EXPLODE often and they are hurting the upper atmosphere. Those problems MAY be WAY greater than risks from the new generation nuclear electric plants. Google Oliver Stone at Davos.

As posted by me several times we are dealing with a panic. You cannot reason with people lost in fear and a mob of hate.

[golfing eagles]

Cow flatulence is way up at the top of that list. That is why many environmentalists are Not suggesting that people give up eating red meat.......rather to substitute sometimes during the week by eating plant-based protein like BEYOND MEAT.

Top of the list???? Really???? Not likely at all. What about sheep and pigs and people. Just about every mammalian, reptilian and avian species farts. If insects fart they would have cows beat out 100 to 1 based on sheer numbers alone.

So, the chances that I'm going to eat some plant based vegetarian crap instead of a juicy NY strip steak are about the same as winning the lottery 20 times in a row, maybe less.

And of course, if we all ate that plant crap, it would reverse 23,000 years of global warming. Can anyone spell d-e-l-u-s-i-o-n-a-l?

[Kenswing]

Top of the list???? Really???? Not likely at all. What about sheep and pigs and people. Just about every mammalian, reptilian and avian species farts. If insects fart they would have cows beat out 100 to 1 based on sheer numbers alone.

So, the chances that I'm going to eat some plant based vegetarian crap instead of a juicy NY strip steak are about the same as winning the lottery 20 times in a row, maybe less.

And of course, if we all ate that plant crap, it would reverse 23,000 years of global warming. Can anyone spell d-e-l-u-s-i-o-n-a-l?

If we all ate plant based crap he would complain that we're ruining the planet by plowing too many acres.

[JMintzer]

Guns are fine with me as long as they have a purpose. I feel that sporting bolt action rifles have a purpose. But, military-style semi-autos and bump-stops are NOT useful other than making the NRA and their controllers - the rich, fat-cat owners of the gun industry WEALTHY.
.......But, unfortunately, the John Wayne cowboy frontier mentality is ingrained into Americans. It has captured their minds !

The NRA doesn't sell a single gun. How does that make them rich?

[Bay Kid]

Electric aircraft are being developed and tested as we speak. The FUTURE of aviation could be more environmentally friendly........we can hope !

I know who can do the test flights. They should prove they really care. Planes, cars, boats, homes, etc.

[sounding]

ORDINARY guns will NOT affect weather, but a full-out nuclear war will. Scientists take about a nuclear winter after WW3......that would be some serious Climate Change. I worry that there has been so many apocalypse-type movies and series lately that maybe that is giving a prediction that I HOPE never comes true.
But, the recent war in the Ukraine has caused some problems that could affect Global Warming somewhat. There are or were (may have been plugged) 3 holes in a natural gas pipeline lying at the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. It sent Russian natural gas to Europe. The pipe was in VERY deep water and probably needed a special submarine to blow those 3 holes. Russia was suspected of doing it itself to drive up the world price for natural gas.
........Anyway, the 3 holes were (or still are) GUSHING gas that rises to the upper atmosphere and adds to the blanket that IS making the world hotter by record amounts in the last 8 years. (Despite the opinion to the contrary expressed by my friends with the fashionable TIN-FOIL hats !!!!!!! )

One BIG problem with Global Warming today is that it causes farmers and other poor populations in South America and Africa to start starving and begin MIGRATING northward into America and Europe. If they succeed in getting there they will INCREASE their environmental FOOTPRINT greatly - producing GREATER pollution, which AGAIN goes up to the upper atmosphere and acts as a BLANKET holding in the Earth's heat. It is sad from a humanitarian perspective, but don't blame me.......I am just the messenger.

Like the Venus runaway greenhouse effect, a nuclear winter is also fantasy -- and both pushed by Sagan -- like Al Gore pushes man-made climate change. Scare mongering is big business.

[jimjamuser]

The NRA doesn't sell a single gun. How does that make them rich?
They sell a magazine that makes money and the NRA exists to drum up business for the Gun manufacturers. Everyone knows that. I was aware of that in 6th grade.

[jimjamuser]

I think this post is a mistake. Imagine a bunch of people who believe this stuff showing up at a Straight Shooters meeting. Perhaps, wiser would be a prepared presentation to some of the discussion groups in the villages. The antigun zealots would love to cause a RIOT at a Straight Shooters meeting.

As far as climate change, I find it interesting. First of all it was GLOBAL WARMING now it has changed to CLIMATE CHANGE. Climate is and always has been changing.

I find it spooky how easy it is to start panics. Al Gore has turned this into a personal gold mine. Reality, I suggest all READ. Fifty years ago the concern was global cooling.
Lacking was only Al Gore to fly in his own personal Jet to tell others we should not burn fossil fuels. It is tough for people to see, to realize they are being had especially when others are PARROTING the same. Far as fossil fuels my carbon foot print is vastly reduced. I am retired and no longer producing anything.

Anybody remember Y2K? Space Invaders? Covid 19? It is shockingly to create MASS PANIC.
I am afraid that it is NOT logical to equate Covid, which was a REAL national problem causing over One Million Deaths, with Y2K and space invaders.

[Nordhagen]

I suppose anything that creates carbon/greenhouse could be included. Guns would when they are manufactured, and when a round is fired

But to single out guns is silly. Everything produces carbon/greenhouse as it is created, some may or may not as they are used. All organic matter creates carbon/greenhouse gas as it decays, and I suppose a gun would as it rusts, or if it is melted down to create something else.

Climate change makes me think of the "elixir salesman" as he would go from town to town. His pitch was his elixir would cure everything, regardless of what it was. Climate change is the current "cure-all" product. Another word for such a product is snake oil.

Which is kind of what climate change is.
It’s called a “hoax”

[jimjamuser]

Top of the list???? Really???? Not likely at all. What about sheep and pigs and people. Just about every mammalian, reptilian and avian species farts. If insects fart they would have cows beat out 100 to 1 based on sheer numbers alone.

So, the chances that I'm going to eat some plant based vegetarian crap instead of a juicy NY strip steak are about the same as winning the lottery 20 times in a row, maybe less.

And of course, if we all ate that plant crap, it would reverse 23,000 years of global warming. Can anyone spell d-e-l-u-s-i-o-n-a-l?
Pigs and humans are omnivores. Sheep and cows are strictly herbivores. I know that cows have 2 separate stomachs that somehow cause them to outgas more gas than humans. And I believe the cow's flatulence has more of the gas variety that is detrimental to the upper atmosphere.
......That's the way I understand it. And right now somehow, I don't feel that motivated to Google the small details.

[jimjamuser]

If we all ate plant based crap he would complain that we're ruining the planet by plowing too many acres.
Personally, I think that it would be better if we talked to (and about) each other like POLITE ADULTS, rather than the opposite.

[Two Bills]

Pigs and humans are omnivores. Sheep and cows are strictly herbivores. I know that cows have 2 separate stomachs that somehow cause them to outgas more gas than humans. And I believe the cow's flatulence has more of the gas variety that is detrimental to the upper atmosphere.
......That's the way I understand it. And right now somehow, I don't feel that motivated to Google the small details.

I have a gut feeling that cows have one stomach with four compartments.

[sounding]

It’s called a “hoax”

Ditto. The U.N. says ... "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." For those that believe that I have a ski resort in The Villages to sell you.

[Number 10 GI]

I grew up on a farm. My grandfather and my father owned cows and I never heard one of them fart. Horses yep, pigs yep, my grandfather and my father yep, they all farted, but cows don't. Cows do poop a lot though and in copious amounts.

[sounding]

I grew up on a farm. My grandfather and my father owned cows and I never heard one of them fart. Horses yep, pigs yep, my grandfather and my father yep, they all farted, but cows don't. Cows do poop a lot though and in copious amounts.

We must be related. My family members all participated in the same gaseous behaviors -- and even the dog. History repeatedly shows that the best way to force people to do things they would never do using a logical mind -- is by scaring them to death -- whether it's health, global warming, etc.

[jimjamuser]

I have a gut feeling that cows have one stomach with four compartments.
"gut feeling" even a herbivore would get a laugh out of that one. One stomach 4 compartments, 2 stomachs 2 compartments, 3 French hens, and a partridge placing droplets on a blue Corvette.

[jimjamuser]

I grew up on a farm. My grandfather and my father owned cows and I never heard one of them fart. Horses yep, pigs yep, my grandfather and my father yep, they all farted, but cows don't. Cows do poop a lot though and in copious amounts.
Keep that up and I AM going to be forced to go GOOGLE on you. Don't steam me, Alice !

[jimjamuser]

We must be related. My family members all participated in the same gaseous behaviors -- and even the dog. History repeatedly shows that the best way to force people to do things they would never do using a logical mind -- is by scaring them to death -- whether it's health, global warming, etc.
There IS something (?) about that post that does make me fear for America.

[Woodbear]

At least the Ozone Hole is closing. Now I'll go shoot a couple hundred clays at BlackJack guilt free this week

The ozone layer is slowly, but surely, healing, the UN says | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/the-ozone-layer-is-slowly-but-surely-healing-the-un-says#:~:text=DENVER%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Earth's%2 0protective,new%20United%20Nations%20report%20says ).

[sounding]

At least the Ozone Hole is closing. Now I'll go shoot a couple hundred clays at BlackJack guilt free this week

The ozone layer is slowly, but surely, healing, the UN says | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/the-ozone-layer-is-slowly-but-surely-healing-the-un-says#:~:text=DENVER%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Earth's%2 0protective,new%20United%20Nations%20report%20says ).

Anything the UN says about the climate is backwards -- junk science. They can say the "hole" is healing, because it's now "summer" at the South Pole when the sun shines constantly. Guess what, the sun creates ozone. During each winter season, the sun don't shine down there, and the hole comes back. The sun creates ozone, and lack of sun destroys ozone. That's the science.

[jimjamuser]

I grew up on a farm. My grandfather and my father owned cows and I never heard one of them fart. Horses yep, pigs yep, my grandfather and my father yep, they all farted, but cows don't. Cows do poop a lot though and in copious amounts.
I just remembered something about this deep intellectual discussion concerning cow flatulence causing large amounts of polluting gas that become a BIG problem because they end up as a blanket in the upper atmosphere and therefore affect Global Warming. Now how MUCH that effect is would require me to go ask Mr. Google, which I have been trying to avoid? What I remembered is that the problem gases emitted from cattle do NOT come from the rear end, but rather from the FRONT end, in the form of BURPS.
........So the way I understand it (just from memory and not recently) is that basically, cattle BURPS are WARMING the planet. Now I know that sounds crazy and if enough people challenge my memory (very imperfect at my advancing age) I WILL be forced to ask Mr. Google.

[golfing eagles]

I just remembered something about this deep intellectual discussion concerning cow flatulence causing large amounts of polluting gas that become a BIG problem because they end up as a blanket in the upper atmosphere and therefore affect Global Warming. Now how MUCH that effect is would require me to go ask Mr. Google, which I have been trying to avoid? What I remembered is that the problem gases emitted from cattle do NOT come from the rear end, but rather from the FRONT end, in the form of BURPS.
........So the way I understand it (just from memory and not recently) is that basically, cattle BURPS are WARMING the planet. Now I know that sounds crazy and if enough people challenge my memory (very imperfect at my advancing age) I WILL be forced to ask Mr. Google.

So, in other words, the global warming true believers that thought they were talking out of their mouths were actually talking out their @$$ :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

At least the Ozone Hole is closing. Now I'll go shoot a couple hundred clays at BlackJack guilt free this week

The ozone layer is slowly, but surely, healing, the UN says | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/the-ozone-layer-is-slowly-but-surely-healing-the-un-says#:~:text=DENVER%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Earth's%2 0protective,new%20United%20Nations%20report%20says ).
I just read that article (which was excellent) and in the next to last paragraph ......the article stated that HFC was banned ONLY a few years ago - it is a HEAT trapping Greenhouse gas that does what I have been talking about - that is HFC rises to the upper atmosphere and is one of the major causes of the RECENT 8-year RECORD earth heating. The hole in the ionosphere above Antarctica will take 43 years to HEAL. The thinning of the layer above the Arctic will take about 22 years to get restored. The article did NOT say how long it would take for the HEAT-trapping HFC to dissipate. But I know from other readings that scientists predict the next 30 years will be continuing with the RECORD HEAT.

Thanks.....that was a very good link.

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I just read that article (which was excellent) and in the next to last paragraph ......the article stated that HFC was banned ONLY a few years ago - it is a HEAT trapping Greenhouse gas that does what I have been talking about - that is HFC rises to the upper atmosphere and is one of the major causes of the RECENT 8-year RECORD earth heating. The hole in the ionosphere above Antarctica will take 43 years to HEAL. The thinning of the layer above the Arctic will take about 22 years to get restored. The article did NOT say how long it would take for the HEAT-trapping HFC to dissipate. But I know from other readings that scientists predict the next 30 years will be continuing with the RECORD HEAT.

Thanks.....that was a very good link.

Greenhouse gases do not trap heat. They first absorb heat and then immediately radiate it back out. It just slows down heat's escape to outer space. Plus, the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years -- so CO2 seems to be underperforming. We need to create more CO2.

[Bill14564]

Greenhouse gases do not trap heat. They first absorb heat and then immediately radiate it back out. It just slows down heat's escape to outer space. Plus, the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years -- so CO2 seems to be underperforming. We need to create more CO2.

STILL with this ridiculous assertion???

OK then, let's take a look at it using the data YOU provided.

First your graph. Yep, there is a horizontal line that is higher on the left than it is on the right showing a decreasing trend. No argument there. But the line is an Excel feature based on the data points and when you look at them the decrease isn't quite as obvious. Sure, the 2022 point is lower than the 2016 point but the 2022 point shows an increase over last year and an overall increase over 2015 start of the period.

Then why does Excel show a decreasing trend? Because the 2016 point is significantly higher than it's neighbors. If you cherry-pick a starting point then you can often show whatever you want. What is MOST interesting about this, and quite ironic, is that the cooling trend you are so excited about only exists because of an extremely warm year!

Now on to the second graph where I "cherry-picked" a point 23 years ago. (If you don't like 22 then pick 50 or 10 or 17 or 42 or whatever number you like greater than 7) On this graph there is a horizontal(ish) line that is lower on the left and higher on the right showing a warming trend. What we can also see in this graph is that except for four extremely warm years, 2022 was the warmest in the last 23 years. If you remove the 2022 data then 2021 was the warmest in the last 22 years.

This is *your* chosen data just not your chosen starting point.

Of course, none of this speaks to whether man has anything to do with the warming. This only shows that the cooling trend that you continue to assert does not exist or rather, it exists only because of a set of unusually warm years.

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STILL with this ridiculous assertion???

OK then, let's take a look at it using the data YOU provided.

First your graph. Yep, there is a horizontal line that is higher on the left than it is on the right showing a decreasing trend. No argument there. But the line is an Excel feature based on the data points and when you look at them the decrease isn't quite as obvious. Sure, the 2022 point is lower than the 2016 point but the 2022 point shows an increase over last year and an overall increase over 2015 start of the period.

Then why does Excel show a decreasing trend? Because the 2016 point is significantly higher than it's neighbors. If you cherry-pick a starting point then you can often show whatever you want. What is MOST interesting about this, and quite ironic, is that the cooling trend you are so excited about only exists because of an extremely warm year!

Now on to the second graph where I "cherry-picked" a point 23 years ago. (If you don't like 22 then pick 50 or 10 or 17 or 42 or whatever number you like greater than 7) On this graph there is a horizontal(ish) line that is lower on the left and higher on the right showing a warming trend. What we can also see in this graph is that except for four extremely warm years, 2022 was the warmest in the last 23 years. If you remove the 2022 data then 2021 was the warmest in the last 22 years.

This is *your* chosen data just not your chosen starting point.

Of course, none of this speaks to whether man has anything to do with the warming. This only shows that the cooling trend that you continue to assert does not exist or rather, it exists only because of a set of unusually warm years.

The long-term cooling trend has been in the works for many years due to cooling sun cycles ... Monthly and smoothed sunspot number | SILSO (https://www.sidc.be/silso/monthlyssnplot) . More importantly, CO2 is failing as a control knob. This is why the media (like the Weather Channel) will never talk about this current trend -- because it's embarrassing to the global warming establishment.

[jimjamuser]

Anything the UN says about the climate is backwards -- junk science. They can say the "hole" is healing, because it's now "summer" at the South Pole when the sun shines constantly. Guess what, the sun creates ozone. During each winter season, the sun don't shine down there, and the hole comes back. The sun creates ozone, and lack of sun destroys ozone. That's the science.
This is a serious question. Do you really believe what you are saying? You are asking us to NOT believe the UNITED NATION's large staff of scientists and INSTEAD believe YOU (as opposed to THEM). They publish peer-reviewed SCIENTIFIC PAPERS that appear in Science Journals. Have you published any PAPERS in science journals EVER? When you DO, then I will be willing to debate what you are saying. You are DOING the SAYING so just PROVE that you are an expert. I do NOT CLAIM to be an expert Climatologist, as do you. Therefore I will believe the UN and it is you, not I, that must back up their random CLAIMS about being an expert. Time to PUT UP or............

[jimjamuser]

So, in other words, the global warming true believers that thought they were talking out of their mouths were actually talking out their @$$ :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
That IS funny ! I will grant that. I said that I was going by memory only (from a long time ago). I guess I was hoping that with the COLLECTIVE brainpower here at The Villages, that some other forum member might have read about how cattle DO contribute to Global Warming. Which is an idea that I will take to my grave unless someone here KNOWS what IS ACTUALLY factual on this situation. Or I might stop being lazy and care enough to go hat in hand and ask Mr. Wizzard, I mean Mr. Google.

[jimjamuser]

Greenhouse gases do not trap heat. They first absorb heat and then immediately radiate it back out. It just slows down heat's escape to outer space. Plus, the earth has been cooling for the past 7 years -- so CO2 seems to be underperforming. We need to create more CO2.
Look children, there is that strange graph again. It keeps popping up. Must be those Y2K space invaders doing it again.

[jimjamuser]

STILL with this ridiculous assertion???

OK then, let's take a look at it using the data YOU provided.

First your graph. Yep, there is a horizontal line that is higher on the left than it is on the right showing a decreasing trend. No argument there. But the line is an Excel feature based on the data points and when you look at them the decrease isn't quite as obvious. Sure, the 2022 point is lower than the 2016 point but the 2022 point shows an increase over last year and an overall increase over 2015 start of the period.

Then why does Excel show a decreasing trend? Because the 2016 point is significantly higher than it's neighbors. If you cherry-pick a starting point then you can often show whatever you want. What is MOST interesting about this, and quite ironic, is that the cooling trend you are so excited about only exists because of an extremely warm year!

Now on to the second graph where I "cherry-picked" a point 23 years ago. (If you don't like 22 then pick 50 or 10 or 17 or 42 or whatever number you like greater than 7) On this graph there is a horizontal(ish) line that is lower on the left and higher on the right showing a warming trend. What we can also see in this graph is that except for four extremely warm years, 2022 was the warmest in the last 23 years. If you remove the 2022 data then 2021 was the warmest in the last 22 years.

This is *your* chosen data just not your chosen starting point.

Of course, none of this speaks to whether man has anything to do with the warming. This only shows that the cooling trend that you continue to assert does not exist or rather, it exists only because of a set of unusually warm years.
Agreed.....using data to reverse a normal conclusion that the Y2K space laser people don't like so they present misleading data as proof of their INVERTED conclusion. The BIG question in my mind IS WHY are they doing it? Where is the motivation to draw a BACKWARDS conclusion about the direction of HEATING in the earth's weather / climate. Is the oil and gas industry so unable to change and innovate that they PAY people on forums to make outrageous, erroneous claims? I seriously DOUBT that, but I can't come up with any solid reason for WHY spout out this deception? It is baffling, but I have yet to lose any sleep over it.

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This is a serious question. Do you really believe what you are saying? You are asking us to NOT believe the UNITED NATION's large staff of scientists and INSTEAD believe YOU (as opposed to THEM). They publish peer-reviewed SCIENTIFIC PAPERS that appear in Science Journals. Have you published any PAPERS in science journals EVER? When you DO, then I will be willing to debate what you are saying. You are DOING the SAYING so just PROVE that you are an expert. I do NOT CLAIM to be an expert Climatologist, as do you. Therefore I will believe the UN and it is you, not I, that must back up their random CLAIMS about being an expert. Time to PUT UP or............

Climate change "peer review" is corrupt. Peer review (like consensus) has become a political tool to control group think. Also, if you doubt the UN stance on small arms and gun control, just read the UN's Disarmament Handbook -- all of it.

[Bill14564]

The long-term cooling trend has been in the works for many years due to cooling sun cycles ... Monthly and smoothed sunspot number | SILSO (https://www.sidc.be/silso/monthlyssnplot) . More importantly, CO2 is failing as a control knob. This is why the media (like the Weather Channel) will never talk about this current trend -- because it's embarrassing to the global warming establishment.

Too many words for you, eh? I'll put it more succinctly: There is no cooling trend.

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Too many words for you, eh? I'll put it more succinctly: There is no cooling trend.

Why did earth stop warming last 7 years, while CO2 continues to shoot upwards?

[Bill14564]

Why did earth stop warming last 7 years, while CO2 continues to shoot upwards?

The earth has not stopped warming. (See post #67)

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The earth has not stopped warming. (See post #67)

You can say anything you want -- but that's not what the data shows. Note -- a downward linear temperature trend normally means cooling .vs. warming.

[Bill14564]

You can say anything you want -- but that's not what the data shows. Note -- a downward linear temperature trend normally means cooling .vs. warming.

See post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html)

Note: 2022 was warmer than 19 of the past 23 years including last year. If a downward linear temperature trend normally means cooling then the upward linear temperature trend that has existed for the past large number of years must mean warming and THAT is what your data shows.

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See post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html)

Note: 2022 was warmer than 19 of the past 23 years including last year. If a downward linear temperature trend normally means cooling then the upward linear temperature trend that has existed for the past large number of years must mean warming and THAT is what your data shows.

Correct. For the past 300+ years we have been warming as we have been thawing out from the Little Ice Age. That Little Ice Age "cooling" and now Modern Age "warming" cycle is being controlled by the Bray and Eddy solar cycles -- which are maxing out. We are in a tipping era. At the same time, the Feynman and deVries sunspot cycles are in a cooling trend. It's just a matter of time before significant cooling begins. The question is ... is this current 7-year cooling trend that tipping point. Let's see where the 8th year trend takes us.

[jimjamuser]

Climate change "peer review" is corrupt. Peer review (like consensus) has become a political tool to control group think. Also, if you doubt the UN stance on small arms and gun control, just read the UN's Disarmament Handbook -- all of it.
Gun control is BAD. The UN is BAD. Somehow my SPIDER SENSE is flashing......NRA. .......HHYYYMMMM......maybe the mystery is solved.

[jimjamuser]

The long-term cooling trend has been in the works for many years due to cooling sun cycles ... Monthly and smoothed sunspot number | SILSO (https://www.sidc.be/silso/monthlyssnplot) . More importantly, CO2 is failing as a control knob. This is why the media (like the Weather Channel) will never talk about this current trend -- because it's embarrassing to the global warming establishment.
"Cooling sun cycles"....now why didn't I think of that? It MUST have slipped my mind.

[jimjamuser]

Why did earth stop warming last 7 years, while CO2 continues to shoot upwards?
1st part....it didn't

2nd part.....it did

[Gatorgreen]

I grew up on a farm. My grandfather and my father owned cows and I never heard one of them fart. Horses yep, pigs yep, my grandfather and my father yep, they all farted, but cows don't. Cows do poop a lot though and in copious amounts.

Exactly.. My dad had about 120 cows and fed out about 100 steers yearly, first on rye grass and then on grain. I also never heard or smelled a cow fart. Went to a lot of sales barns where 100s of cows were sold, and same there. But, I have heard dogs fart like crazy. Maybe we need to get rid of the pet. Not really but see where this goes. People need to quit worrying over something they can do nothing about.

[Bill14564]

Correct. For the past 300+ years we have been warming as we have been thawing out from the Little Ice Age. That Little Ice Age "cooling" and now Modern Age "warming" cycle is being controlled by the Bray and Eddy solar cycles -- which are maxing out. We are in a tipping era. At the same time, the Feynman and deVries sunspot cycles are in a cooling trend. It's just a matter of time before significant cooling begins. The question is ... is this current 7-year cooling trend that tipping point. Let's see where the 8th year trend takes us.

See post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html)

There is no 7-year cooling trend. There is a warming trend over the past xxx years with four years out of the last seven being particularly warm. Arguing that there is a "cooling trend" because only four of the last seven years were particularly warm is a sign of extremely poor data analysis.

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See post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html)

There is no 7-year cooling trend. There is a warming trend over the past xxx years with four years out of the last seven being particularly warm. Arguing that there is a "cooling trend" because only four of the last seven years were particularly warm is a sign of extremely poor data analysis.

Why is the trend downward?

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1st part....it didn't

2nd part.....it did

Why is the 7-year trend downward?

[JMintzer]

They sell a magazine that makes money and the NRA exists to drum up business for the Gun manufacturers. Everyone knows that. I was aware of that in 6th grade.

The don't "sell" a magazine... Their magazine is a perk, included in your membership fees...

The NRA is the premier "Gun Safety Organization" in the country.

If you take a concealed carry class, or need a class to get any sort of gun license, it's a sure bet you're taking an NRA certified course, taught by an NRA certified instructor...

The NRA exists to promote hunter safety, and to promote and defend hunting as a shooting sport and as a viable and necessary method of fostering the propagation, growth and conservation, and wise use of our renewable wildlife resources."Everyone knows that"...

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Gun control is BAD. The UN is BAD. Somehow my SPIDER SENSE is flashing......NRA. .......HHYYYMMMM......maybe the mystery is solved.

It's not about me. It's about the UN Disarmament Handbook, which actually believes we are making weather worse -- when in all respects it was much worse in the past when CO2 levels were much lower.

[Bill14564]

Why is the trend downward?

Study post #67. When you understand how to analyze your data will have your answer.

[JMintzer]

Pigs and humans are omnivores. Sheep and cows are strictly herbivores. I know that cows have 2 separate stomachs that somehow cause them to outgas more gas than humans. And I believe the cow's flatulence has more of the gas variety that is detrimental to the upper atmosphere.
......That's the way I understand it. And right now somehow, I don't feel that motivated to Google the small details.

You "know" that? Try again...

"Cows technically only have one stomach, but it has four distinct compartments made up of Rumen, Reticulum, Omasum and Abomasum."

https://www.milkmeansmore.org/do-cows-really-have-four-stomachs/

[Taltarzac725]

It's not about me. It's about the UN Disarmament Handbook, which actually believes we are making weather worse -- when in all respects it was much worse in the past when CO2 levels were much lower.

Fact Sheets on Disarmament Issues – UNODA (https://www.un.org/disarmament/factsheets/)

I do not see anything in this about small arms creating global warming. Maybe that happened for a while over the trenches in WWI in Europe.

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Fact Sheets on Disarmament Issues – UNODA (https://www.un.org/disarmament/factsheets/)

I do not see anything in this about small arms creating global warming. Maybe that happened for a while over the trenches in WWI in Europe.

The UN Disarmament Handbook.

[JMintzer]

This is a serious question. Do you really believe what you are saying? You are asking us to NOT believe the UNITED NATION's large staff of scientists and INSTEAD believe YOU (as opposed to THEM). They publish peer-reviewed SCIENTIFIC PAPERS that appear in Science Journals. Have you published any PAPERS in science journals EVER? When you DO, then I will be willing to debate what you are saying. You are DOING the SAYING so just PROVE that you are an expert. I do NOT CLAIM to be an expert Climatologist, as do you. Therefore I will believe the UN and it is you, not I, that must back up their random CLAIMS about being an expert. Time to PUT UP or............

I'll only believe it if Oliver Stone says it in a speech to global financiers... I've heard that he's a very important person with a superior intellect...

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The earth has not stopped warming. (See post #67)

Even this article about the 100 month temperature pause shows a slight linear cooling trend ... The New Pause lengthens: 100 Months with No Warming At All | Watts Up With That? (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/04/the-new-pause-lengthens-100-months-with-no-warming-at-all/)

[JMintzer]

That IS funny ! I will grant that. I said that I was going by memory only (from a long time ago). I guess I was hoping that with the COLLECTIVE brainpower here at The Villages, that some other forum member might have read about how cattle DO contribute to Global Warming. Which is an idea that I will take to my grave unless someone here KNOWS what IS ACTUALLY factual on this situation. Or I might stop being lazy and care enough to go hat in hand and ask Mr. Wizzard, I mean Mr. Google.

It would be an improvement over posting what "you believe"...

"Facts Lives Matter"

[JMintzer]

Gun control is BAD. The UN is BAD. Somehow my SPIDER SENSE is flashing......NRA. .......HHYYYMMMM......maybe the mystery is solved.

I don't need the NRA to tell me that those things are true...

[Tvflguy]

The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

“They” will throw anything against the wall re their reasoning behind their tactics spouting of Climate Change. Some may provide a thoughtful and reasonable argument but many, as this inane thing, is simply… inane. It reminds me of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. After time, one stops listening.

[Bill14564]

Even this article about the 100 month temperature pause shows a slight linear cooling trend ... The New Pause lengthens: 100 Months with No Warming At All | Watts Up With That? (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/04/the-new-pause-lengthens-100-months-with-no-warming-at-all/)

Changing the data? I’ll read this article later but for now you need to better understand the data you pointed to earlier, the data that shows a warming trend

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Changing the data? I’ll read this article later but for now you need to better understand the data you pointed to earlier, the satay that shows a warming trend

Sure everyone knows NOAA, NASA, and other nations are indeed altering temperature data to better match the CO2 upward trend. That's how scams work. Here's a good example of how Australia does it ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6pzAGVeWRs

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Study post #67. When you understand how to analyze your data will have your answer.

More independent evidence of the 7-year cooling trend -- because anyone can see the data.

[golfing eagles]

You "know" that? Try again...

"Cows technically only have one stomach, but it has four distinct compartments made up of Rumen, Reticulum, Omasum and Abomasum."

https://www.milkmeansmore.org/do-cows-really-have-four-stomachs/

Don't confuse him about things he "knows":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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The UN Disarmament Handbook says, "Disarmament is especially important for climate protection." I can't find that claim in any weather or climate text book, but current data shows that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, even though guns and CO2 are increasing. This amazing "climate protection" claim will be discussed at the Gun Club (Jan 19 at Savannah at 6 PM, and Jan 23 at Eisenhower at 5:30 PM).

Below image reflects the Gun Club's review of the Jan 19th talk.

[Bill14564]

More independent evidence of the 7-year cooling trend -- because anyone can see the data.

Warming trend is evident in the data YOU provided.

[Bill14564]

Sure everyone knows NOAA, NASA, and other nations are indeed altering temperature data to better match the CO2 upward trend. That's how scams work. Here's a good example of how Australia does it ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6pzAGVeWRs

Most everyone knows you make that claim. Far fewer actually believe the claim.

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Warming trend is evident in the data YOU provided.

Bingo -- correct again! There is always a warming trend just before the cooling trend.

[Bill14564]

Bingo -- correct again! There is always a warming trend just before the cooling trend.

See post #67. Provide a counter argument or accept that there is no cooling trend.

[Bill14564]

The UN Disarmament Handbook.

Nothing about small arms causing global warming there either. And yes, I have read it. Have you?

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See post #67. Provide a counter argument or accept that there is no cooling trend.

Correct again. It shows a warming trend and then a cooling trend. Thank you once more.

[jimjamuser]

Exactly.. My dad had about 120 cows and fed out about 100 steers yearly, first on rye grass and then on grain. I also never heard or smelled a cow fart. Went to a lot of sales barns where 100s of cows were sold, and same there. But, I have heard dogs fart like crazy. Maybe we need to get rid of the pet. Not really but see where this goes. People need to quit worrying over something they can do nothing about.
OK, but logically, cattle eat grass, cattle are BIG.....so they MUST have some method for turning grass into protein for their huge bodies. So they have to munch a lot of grass and sent that through their 2 or 4 stomach compartments. Somehow that IS producing large quantities of METHANE and it must come out of one or the other end of the cattle. I seem to remember reading something about them BURPING.
........It is also possible that the methane escapes from the cow pies. Eventually, I will Googe this very "STICKY" subject.

[Bill14564]

Even this article about the 100 month temperature pause shows a slight linear cooling trend ... The New Pause lengthens: 100 Months with No Warming At All | Watts Up With That? (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/01/04/the-new-pause-lengthens-100-months-with-no-warming-at-all/)

Of course the charts in the article look similar, the article uses exactly the same data! And, they cherry-picked the data and misinterpreted it to try to show a cooling trend.

See post #67 for an explanation of what the data really shows.

[Bill14564]

Correct again. It shows a warming trend and then a cooling trend. Thank you once more.

Thank me all you want but the data still does NOT show a cooling trend.

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Of course the charts in the article look similar, the article uses exactly the same data! And, they cherry-picked the data and misinterpreted it to try to show a cooling trend.

See post #67 for an explanation of what the data really shows.

Of course it's the same government supplied data. Do you have a better source?

[Taltarzac725]

Of course it's the same government supplied data. Do you have a better source?

That's funny.

[Bill14564]

Of course it's the same government supplied data. Do you have a better source?

You provided that source because, according to you, it was not modified. Are you now saying that YOUR data is invalid, Is there no data anywhere that can be used?

[jimjamuser]

The don't "sell" a magazine... Their magazine is a perk, included in your membership fees...

The NRA is the premier "Gun Safety Organization" in the country.

If you take a concealed carry class, or need a class to get any sort of gun license, it's a sure bet you're taking an NRA certified course, taught by an NRA certified instructor...

The NRA exists to promote hunter safety, and to promote and defend hunting as a shooting sport and as a viable and necessary method of fostering the propagation, growth and conservation, and wise use of our renewable wildlife resources."Everyone knows that"...
And of course, we need BUMP STOPS and silencers and military-style rifles to shoot quail and Bambies. The NRA WAS, I repeat WAS a great hunting magazine and association devoted to sportsmen, hunting, and outdoor activities before about 1970. All Good until................after about 1970 or 80 when people all live in cities and in the suburbs and they started to NOT want to shoot a turkey on Thanksgiving or go hunting in deer season. So........with FEWER people hunting the Arms manufacturers were getting less profits. Then they got the NRA to push paintball and propaganda about soldiers of fortune and the military. The gun magazines barely covered normal guns like bolt actions and double-barreled shotguns. It became all about silencers and semi-autos and MAN-killing guns and NOT animal-killing guns.
.....Personally, my last membership in the NRA was about 1970 and I became more interested in BOW hunting - there was more challenge involved and longer seasons, because for me it was more about walking around nature than killing animals anyway. Personally, I never owned a MAN-KILLING GUN and I never would. I refused to shoot at targets if there was an IMAGE of a man on it. I would ONLY shoot at bullseye-type targets!

[jimjamuser]

You "know" that? Try again...

"Cows technically only have one stomach, but it has four distinct compartments made up of Rumen, Reticulum, Omasum and Abomasum."

https://www.milkmeansmore.org/do-cows-really-have-four-stomachs/
Thank you.....I was hoping that someone would do the work of Googling for me......I have gotten old and lazy in my old age.

[jimjamuser]

I'll only believe it if Oliver Stone says it in a speech to global financiers... I've heard that he's a very important person with a superior intellect...
Usted es muy bueno.

[sounding]

You provided that source because, according to you, it was not modified. Are you now saying that YOUR data is invalid, Is there no data anywhere that can be used?

Correct once again -- or actually twice again. Yes, it is official government data, and it is officially modified government data. The amazing thing is, even with all their modifications, it still shows a 7-year cooling trend. Here is some info about how the U.S. modifies data ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-K_tadveI

[Bill14564]

Correct once again -- or actually twice again. Yes, it is official government data, and it is officially modified government data. The amazing thing is, even with all their modifications, it still shows a 7-year cooling trend. Here is some info about how the U.S. modifies data ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-K_tadveI

Still NO cooling trend in the data, still NO answer from you to the points made in posts #67.

[Kenswing]

And of course, we need BUMP STOPS and silencers and military-style rifles to shoot quail and Bambies. The NRA WAS, I repeat WAS a great hunting magazine and association devoted to sportsmen, hunting, and outdoor activities before about 1970. All Good until................after about 1970 or 80 when people all live in cities and in the suburbs and they started to NOT want to shoot a turkey on Thanksgiving or go hunting in deer season. So........with FEWER people hunting the Arms manufacturers were getting less profits. Then they got the NRA to push paintball and propaganda about soldiers of fortune and the military. The gun magazines barely covered normal guns like bolt actions and double-barreled shotguns. It became all about silencers and semi-autos and MAN-killing guns and NOT animal-killing guns.
.....Personally, my last membership in the NRA was about 1970 and I became more interested in BOW hunting - there was more challenge involved and longer seasons, because for me it was more about walking around nature than killing animals anyway. Personally, I never owned a MAN-KILLING GUN and I never would. I refused to shoot at targets if there was an IMAGE of a man on it. I would ONLY shoot at bullseye-type targets!
When are you going to actually post with a hint of accuracy?

A Bump Stop? Energy Suspension 9.9101G All Purpose Bump Stop - Pack of 2 https://a.co/d/dLmjl0p
I’m sure you’re referring to Bump Stocks which are already illegal.

There’s no such thing as a gun silencer. There are sound suppressors which will reduce the report of a fired round but it doesn’t come even close to silencing it. A suppressor is more of a hearing protective device than some nefarious tool of death and destruction that you try to make them out to be. Show us some data on how many mass shootings involved a “silenced” weapon.

Please. I implore you to stop posting with your feelings and start using real easily verified information.

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Still NO cooling trend in the data, still NO answer from you to the points made in posts #67.

I only answer to data -- which shows a 7-year (even though slight) cooling trend. Both satellite and surface temperature (both government supplied) show the same. Most likely it will warm again (due to ongoing AMO and PDO ocean cycles) before making a stronger dip into cooling trends.

[Bill14564]

I only answer to data -- which shows a 7-year (even though slight) cooling trend. Both satellite and surface temperature (both government supplied) show the same. Most likely it will warm again (due to ongoing AMO and PDO ocean cycles) before making a stronger dip into cooling trends.

It is the data that shows NO cooling trend as explained in post #67. Your inability to refute that (except for your attempt at proof by emphatic assertion) can only be taken as an acknowledgement that you know you are wrong but just don't want to admit it.

This "yes it does! no it doesn't!" exchange was fun as a third grader but is old today. Provide some analysis of YOUR data to make YOUR point or everyone still reading this thread will know that you have nothing.

[sounding]

It is the data that shows NO cooling trend as explained in post #67. Your inability to refute that (except for your attempt at proof by emphatic assertion) can only be taken as an acknowledgement that you know you are wrong but just don't want to admit it.

This "yes it does! no it doesn't!" exchange was fun as a third grader but is old today. Provide some analysis of YOUR data to make YOUR point or everyone still reading this thread will know that you have nothing.

Sorry -- I only have government data to show -- which shows a 7-year cooling trend. Anyone can plot and see the same. Here 's the satellite source data ... Latest Global Temps « Roy Spencer, PhD (https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/) And here again is the plotted data with linear trend line -- downwards.

[Bill14564]

Sorry -- I only have government data to show -- which shows a 7-year cooling trend. Anyone can plot and see the same. Here 's the satellite source data ... Latest Global Temps « Roy Spencer, PhD (https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/) And here again is the plotted data with linear trend line -- downwards.

One final time, that graph was addressed in post #67. What it shows is successful cherry-picking of the data.

Happily, the ignore list is only three clicks away.

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One final time, that graph was addressed in post #67. What it shows is successful cherry-picking of the data.

Happily, the ignore list is only three clicks away.

Correct and right on target. The cherries are now trending downward, while prior to 2015 the cherries were trending upward. I once had a cherry tree. I would pick cherries going up and down the ladder -- so I am very familiar with cherry picking.

[Taltarzac725]

Big Bertha (howitzer - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bertha_(howitzer)) I wonder how many cow farts Big Bertha put out with each shell? Or, the Paris Gun?

Of course, the Guns of Navarone were fictional.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORnL9WmOEo

[jimjamuser]

When are you going to actually post with a hint of accuracy?

A Bump Stop? Energy Suspension 9.9101G All Purpose Bump Stop - Pack of 2 https://a.co/d/dLmjl0p
I’m sure you’re referring to Bump Stocks which are already illegal.

There’s no such thing as a gun silencer. There are sound suppressors which will reduce the report of a fired round but it doesn’t come even close to silencing it. A suppressor is more of a hearing protective device than some nefarious tool of death and destruction that you try to make them out to be. Show us some data on how many mass shootings involved a “silenced” weapon.

Please. I implore you to stop posting with your feelings and start using real easily verified information.
Awwww. I am truly sorry that my expression of feelings and emotions would hurt someone else's feelings. I was merely trying to express myself in a TRUE freedom of speech manner. In the future, I will try to turn it down. And I DO know the difference between silencers and suppressors. The general reader here would NOT have a clue as to that distinction, only gun enthusiasts would. In 1956 my father show me how he attempted to make his own version of a silencer for a 22 rifle. It was able to neither silence nor suppress the shot report (nice technical word there for those ballistic aficionados) it was just as loud as originally. And I again apologize in advance because some may be offended by my mention of my father.
..........And "guilty as charged" that IS the 2nd time that I have written bump stop instead of the correct term bump stock..........but I do know what my general intent was ......to show that a person could easily and cheaply convert a semi-auto into effectively an automatic. And I believe that it WAS illegal, BUT (I think.....don't take it to the bank) that a JUDGE recently UNDID that law to make them back to LEGAL. And further, I believe that it was NRA membership money that provided the lawyers to make that CASE. Now, I am out on a limb on this one because I have NOT yet asked Mr Google if he/she would support my limited memory on that one. Please feel free to saw off that limb if that is the important thing to do when using a Forum.........try to shoot down (guns reference) any and ALL people that one has a difference of opinion about.

I keep making the mistake of believing that the IDEA of a public forum is for members to COOPERATE by voicing BOTH facts and OPINIONS so as, to come to a BETTER understanding of local, state, national, and world news and situations. I, myself, read posts with plenty of spelling errors, many, many punctuation errors (some just run everything together without a comma or a period), and EVEN some posts that are barely intelligible (as if written by a 3rd grader). But, I RESIST the temptation to JUMP on them and criticize them.

[jimjamuser]

I only answer to data -- which shows a 7-year (even though slight) cooling trend. Both satellite and surface temperature (both government supplied) show the same. Most likely it will warm again (due to ongoing AMO and PDO ocean cycles) before making a stronger dip into cooling trends.
OK to continue to refute this DELUSION that is trying to be spread here.........I would like to have an explanation of why SCIENTIFIC MEASUREMENTS of ocean levels (all around the world) have RISEN significantly in the last few years ?????? That would logically seem to point to glaciers melting due to Global Warming.
........I can't wait to be told, "that I have NOT factored in the bombastic current flow and the greater sunspot activity due to the sun's periodic orbital oscillations".

[jimjamuser]

Sorry -- I only have government data to show -- which shows a 7-year cooling trend. Anyone can plot and see the same. Here 's the satellite source data ... Latest Global Temps « Roy Spencer, PhD (https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/) And here again is the plotted data with linear trend line -- downwards.
Oh, that repulsive graph again. Oh, I'm going to be sick. And I so enjoyed my breakfast.

[sounding]

OK to continue to refute this DELUSION that is trying to be spread here.........I would like to have an explanation of why SCIENTIFIC MEASUREMENTS of ocean levels (all around the world) have RISEN significantly in the last few years ?????? That would logically seem to point to glaciers melting due to Global Warming.
........I can't wait to be told, "that I have NOT factored in the bombastic current flow and the greater sunspot activity due to the sun's periodic orbital oscillations".

If sea level rise is significant, then how come I have to drive so far to get to the sea shore?

[Two Bills]

If sea level rise is significant, then how come I have to drive so far to get to the sea shore?

Where is the data as proof of these long journeys to the sea shore?:icon_wink:

[sounding]

Where is the data as proof of these long journeys to the sea shore?:icon_wink:

Just watch as the Maldives slowly sink below the ocean -- as so many climate alarmists so want to believe ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwTrHlyWrc

[sounding]

Oh, that repulsive graph again. Oh, I'm going to be sick. And I so enjoyed my breakfast.

I'm sure this 100% solar-powered ski resort won't be showing that graph ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0F40a7IxKs

[JMintzer]

OK, but logically, cattle eat grass, cattle are BIG.....so they MUST have some method for turning grass into protein for their huge bodies. So they have to munch a lot of grass and sent that through their 2 or 4 stomach compartments. Somehow that IS producing large quantities of METHANE and it must come out of one or the other end of the cattle. I seem to remember reading something about them BURPING.
........It is also possible that the methane escapes from the cow pies. Eventually, I will Googe this very "STICKY" subject.

Cows... The original "Plant Based Meat"...

And it's not "2 OR 4 stomach compartments"... It's definitely 4... Take the "L"

[JMintzer]

Of course the charts in the article look similar, the article uses exactly the same data! And, they cherry-picked the data and misinterpreted it to try to show a cooling trend.

See post #67 for an explanation of what the data really shows.

So, you're saying he should "See post #67"?

[JMintzer]

And of course, we need BUMP STOPS and silencers and military-style rifles to shoot quail and Bambies. The NRA WAS, I repeat WAS a great hunting magazine and association devoted to sportsmen, hunting, and outdoor activities before about 1970. All Good until................after about 1970 or 80 when people all live in cities and in the suburbs and they started to NOT want to shoot a turkey on Thanksgiving or go hunting in deer season. So........with FEWER people hunting the Arms manufacturers were getting less profits. Then they got the NRA to push paintball and propaganda about soldiers of fortune and the military. The gun magazines barely covered normal guns like bolt actions and double-barreled shotguns. It became all about silencers and semi-autos and MAN-killing guns and NOT animal-killing guns.
.....Personally, my last membership in the NRA was about 1970 and I became more interested in BOW hunting - there was more challenge involved and longer seasons, because for me it was more about walking around nature than killing animals anyway. Personally, I never owned a MAN-KILLING GUN and I never would. I refused to shoot at targets if there was an IMAGE of a man on it. I would ONLY shoot at bullseye-type targets!

First, they're called Bump STOCKS, not "Stops"...

Second, they're a novelty item. No one has used one in a crime and no serious hunter or anyone involved in self defense would used one for those purposes. So, spare me your red herrings...

Youcan achieve the same effect by using your belt loop or a rubber band (military grade, of course)...

It's just like the dreaded "100 round magazines". They are a range toy. Useless in actual battle. The Aurora shooter had one and it almost immediately jammed, spilling its rounds all over the floor. He did most of his damage with his shotgun and a pistol...

Since you stopped you subscription around 1970, how do you know what they publish today?

You never owned a "MAN-KILLING GUN"? So, I guess you've never owned ANY gun, since ANY gun is capable of KILLING A MAN...

[JMintzer]

When are you going to actually post with a hint of accuracy?

A Bump Stop? Energy Suspension 9.9101G All Purpose Bump Stop - Pack of 2 https://a.co/d/dLmjl0p
I’m sure you’re referring to Bump Stocks which are already illegal.

There’s no such thing as a gun silencer. There are sound suppressors which will reduce the report of a fired round but it doesn’t come even close to silencing it. A suppressor is more of a hearing protective device than some nefarious tool of death and destruction that you try to make them out to be. Show us some data on how many mass shootings involved a “silenced” weapon.

Please. I implore you to stop posting with your feelings and start using real easily verified information.

OOOPS, I missed his statement about the "silencers"... Thank you for catching that!

He (like waaay too many in Congress), thinks they work like what he see's in the movies. Just a "whisper quiet [i]pffft[//] when the gun fires...

Funny thing about "silencers"... You can buy them "over the counter" in much of Europe. It's considered "polite" to use them so you don't disturb your neighbors while hunting...

[JMintzer]

Awwww. I am truly sorry that my expression of feelings and emotions would hurt someone else's feelings. I was merely trying to express myself in a TRUE freedom of speech manner. In the future, I will try to turn it down. And I DO know the difference between silencers and suppressors. The general reader here would NOT have a clue as to that distinction, only gun enthusiasts would. In 1956 my father show me how he attempted to make his own version of a silencer for a 22 rifle. It was able to neither silence nor suppress the shot report (nice technical word there for those ballistic aficionados) it was just as loud as originally. And I again apologize in advance because some may be offended by my mention of my father.
..........And "guilty as charged" that IS the 2nd time that I have written bump stop instead of the correct term bump stock..........but I do know what my general intent was ......to show that a person could easily and cheaply convert a semi-auto into effectively an automatic. And I believe that it WAS illegal, BUT (I think.....don't take it to the bank) that a JUDGE recently UNDID that law to make them back to LEGAL. And further, I believe that it was NRA membership money that provided the lawyers to make that CASE. Now, I am out on a limb on this one because I have NOT yet asked Mr Google if he/she would support my limited memory on that one. Please feel free to saw off that limb if that is the important thing to do when using a Forum.........try to shoot down (guns reference) any and ALL people that one has a difference of opinion about.

I keep making the mistake of believing that the IDEA of a public forum is for members to COOPERATE by voicing BOTH facts and OPINIONS so as, to come to a BETTER understanding of local, state, national, and world news and situations. I, myself, read posts with plenty of spelling errors, many, many punctuation errors (some just run everything together without a comma or a period), and EVEN some posts that are barely intelligible (as if written by a 3rd grader). But, I RESIST the temptation to JUMP on them and criticize them.

Opinions based on facts are fine. Opinions made of whole cloth are not...

And yes, your attempt at snark was duly noted...

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Opinions based on facts are fine. Opinions made of whole cloth are not...

And yes, your attempt at snark was duly noted...

Duly and doubly noted.

[golfing eagles]

If sea level rise is significant, then how come I have to drive so far to get to the sea shore?

Actually, your drive is "much" less. With the "significant"(:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:) rise in ocean levels of 3.9 mm, and assuming a 3% grade as the beach meets the sea, you now have to drive 0.073 mm less. The reduced consumption of gasoline to drive that much less should warm the cockles of the heart of the global warming alarmists.

[Number 10 GI]

A silencer/suppressor are the same thing. You cannot just walk into a gun shop and buy one over the counter. You have to fill out forms, provide a picture of yourself and fingerprint cards, then submit them to the ATF for approval to own one. This involves a background check and a very lengthy waiting time for approval. The same procedure if a person wants to obtain a tax stamp to buy a legal machine gun. Silencers/suppressors are not cheap. The cheapest one I've seen was for a .22 long rifle firearm and was in the neighborhood of $300. Larger caliber suppressors can cost as much as a couple thousand. Most gun owners can't or won't pay that much for one.

Every firearm, a gun that uses gun powder to propel a projectile, will kill a person. Even an air rifle can kill. Lewis and Clark had an air rifle that had a magazine capacity of 20 rounds. If I remember correctly they used it to kill a deer. Every firearm ever made has been used as a weapon of war at some time. Even the lowly .22 long rifle rimfire has been used by special operations operatives as an assassination weapon.

As far as converting a semi-auto firearm to full auto, it is difficult to do and get a functional automatic weapon. Not something the average individual can accomplish. It is just another anti-gun claim that is not true. You can mess with the sear and it will fire full auto but when you let off the trigger it will keep on shooting until the magazine is empty. Also semi-auto firearms are not built to handle full auto fire. It will eventually have a mechanical failure. I have heard of no court rulings legalizing new full automatic weapons. The gun control act of 1986 required all people who owned a machine gun to register it with the ATF by a certain date. After that date any machine gun that was not registered was illegal to own. The act also banned the manufacture of new automatic firearms for the general public. Naturally there is an exception for the military and law enforcement agencies. The guns registered in 1986 are the only ones that are legal to own.

Bump stocks are a joke. You cannot accurately shoot a firearm with that stock. Take some time and watch YouTube videos of them being fired. Bullets go all over the place except where aimed. Go to a gun range and start shooting with one and you will be told to leave and never return. They are nothing but a range toy for the wannabe "Special Ops". Like the guys in the movie Wild Hogs.

[jimjamuser]

That is what happens when you drive in circles. And sometimes that can happen with thought patterns........like about a thousand posts and an ugly 6th-grade graph.

[jimjamuser]

First, they're called Bump STOCKS, not "Stops"...

Second, they're a novelty item. No one has used one in a crime and no serious hunter or anyone involved in self defense would used one for those purposes. So, spare me your red herrings...

Youcan achieve the same effect by using your belt loop or a rubber band (military grade, of course)...

It's just like the dreaded "100 round magazines". They are a range toy. Useless in actual battle. The Aurora shooter had one and it almost immediately jammed, spilling its rounds all over the floor. He did most of his damage with his shotgun and a pistol...

Since you stopped you subscription around 1970, how do you know what they publish today?

You never owned a "MAN-KILLING GUN"? So, I guess you've never owned ANY gun, since ANY gun is capable of KILLING A MAN...
"No one has used a bump stock in a crime" HHHYYYYMMMMNNNN I will allow you to retract that statement.......remember the guy in Las Vegas that rained down DEATH on about 50 innocent people. HE used various guns........one WAS a bump-stock. Apology accepted in advance. Thank me very much !!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Opinions based on facts are fine. Opinions made of whole cloth are not...

And yes, your attempt at snark was duly noted...
No snark intended.......truly!

[jimjamuser]

A silencer/suppressor are the same thing. You cannot just walk into a gun shop and buy one over the counter. You have to fill out forms, provide a picture of yourself and fingerprint cards, then submit them to the ATF for approval to own one. This involves a background check and a very lengthy waiting time for approval. The same procedure if a person wants to obtain a tax stamp to buy a legal machine gun. Silencers/suppressors are not cheap. The cheapest one I've seen was for a .22 long rifle firearm and was in the neighborhood of $300. Larger caliber suppressors can cost as much as a couple thousand. Most gun owners can't or won't pay that much for one.

Every firearm, a gun that uses gun powder to propel a projectile, will kill a person. Even an air rifle can kill. Lewis and Clark had an air rifle that had a magazine capacity of 20 rounds. If I remember correctly they used it to kill a deer. Every firearm ever made has been used as a weapon of war at some time. Even the lowly .22 long rifle rimfire has been used by special operations operatives as an assassination weapon.

As far as converting a semi-auto firearm to full auto, it is difficult to do and get a functional automatic weapon. Not something the average individual can accomplish. It is just another anti-gun claim that is not true. You can mess with the sear and it will fire full auto but when you let off the trigger it will keep on shooting until the magazine is empty. Also semi-auto firearms are not built to handle full auto fire. It will eventually have a mechanical failure. I have heard of no court rulings legalizing new full automatic weapons. The gun control act of 1986 required all people who owned a machine gun to register it with the ATF by a certain date. After that date any machine gun that was not registered was illegal to own. The act also banned the manufacture of new automatic firearms for the general public. Naturally there is an exception for the military and law enforcement agencies. The guns registered in 1986 are the only ones that are legal to own.

Bump stocks are a joke. You cannot accurately shoot a firearm with that stock. Take some time and watch YouTube videos of them being fired. Bullets go all over the place except where aimed. Go to a gun range and start shooting with one and you will be told to leave and never return. They are nothing but a range toy for the wannabe "Special Ops". Like the guys in the movie Wild Hogs.
Good informative post.....thanks.

[sounding]

That is what happens when you drive in circles. And sometimes that can happen with thought patterns........like about a thousand posts and an ugly 6th-grade graph.

There's nothing circular about a linear trend line -- it's a straight line -- and it's going down -- in other words, it shows slight 7-year cooling. Here is another report showing similar results ... https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/05/the-new-pause-lengthens-to-8-years/

[JMintzer]

"No one has used a bump stock in a crime" HHHYYYYMMMMNNNN I will allow you to retract that statement.......remember the guy in Las Vegas that rained down DEATH on about 50 innocent people. HE used various guns........one WAS a bump-stock. Apology accepted in advance. Thank me very much !!!!!!!

Okay, ONE was a bump stock... You got me... Whoopdee freakin doo...

And why are you singing a "Hymn"?