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Michael 61
01-18-2023, 03:31 PM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

Taltarzac725
01-18-2023, 04:04 PM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments

They could probably do all of these given the space.

ohioshooter
01-18-2023, 04:07 PM
Did anyone ask for our suggestions? Do you think it matters?

Tvflguy
01-18-2023, 04:30 PM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

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If there was a poll or I was asked, my vote would definitely be a performing arts center like Savannah or such. If refurbed properly could be extremely nice. With perhaps even more seating than Savannah.

Primarily the location is perfect. Serving areas south of 466a to the far Southern area. Loads of potential customers. And IMO plenty of entertainers to fill the bills.

So rather than leave it a dinosaur with little hope of turning the page back to a movie theater, renovate it to serve the Public better and be another great revenue stream for TV.

justjim
01-18-2023, 04:43 PM
I think TV is large enough for two movie theaters. However, it’s not what I think that matters, it’s what the owners of the property think. Barnstorm is unique as a movie theater IMHO. Additional movies are in the “pipeline”.

Taltarzac725
01-18-2023, 05:05 PM
I think TV is large enough for two movie theaters. However, it’s not what I think that matters, it’s what the owners of the property think. Barnstorm is unique as a movie theater IMHO. Additional movies are in the “pipeline”.

I hope so. We need another open movie theater.

Ecuadog
01-18-2023, 06:41 PM
How about an indoor, nude, swimming pool?

JoMar
01-18-2023, 06:43 PM
I suspect a performing arts theater or another movie theater will show up below 44. Don't know that the Barnstorm Theater decision has been made, but talking to some at Sumter, with the exception of Monday or blockbusters, attendance is still down.

Tvflguy
01-18-2023, 07:50 PM
It would have to be a Titanic or Gone With The Wind to get us into a regular movie theater.

We have a 86” with a great sound system. Comfy sitting area. Comfy snacks. Comfy nearby potty. Nice pause button.

And we simply wait a bit to see first-run films if we want. No rush.

In our comfy house. That’s us and perhaps a lot more since movie theaters are still hurting.

Chi-Town
01-18-2023, 11:30 PM
Check out the Old Mill Playhouse in LSL. Movies and a lot more . The Barnstorn Theater is a perfect location to do the same.

Freehiker
01-19-2023, 06:11 AM
They’ve been discussing putting apartments in that spot for awhile now. They would rent out instantly and there would be a hefty premium for them due to the location.

MikeC
01-19-2023, 06:54 AM
I think it is ridiculous that we only have one movie theatre in a community of 130,000 residents. Brownwood theatre is great, comfortable and convenient for ALL residents. Why can’t they reopen as a movie theatre. Perhaps even incorporate a Lazy Mac type business in lobby with musics, comedy, entertainment?

Robbb
01-19-2023, 07:06 AM
It would have to be a Titanic or Gone With The Wind to get us into a regular movie theater.

We have a 86” with a great sound system. Comfy sitting area. Comfy snacks. Comfy nearby potty. Nice pause button.

And we simply wait a bit to see first-run films if we want. No rush.

In our comfy house. That’s us and perhaps a lot more since movie theaters are still hurting.

That is a great idea, use it as a classic movie theater showing all the classics we grew up with. Yes we have seen them at home several times but in a theater it's
different. Grease, Gone with the wind, On the Waterfront, etc.

Windguy
01-19-2023, 07:09 AM
If y’all want more movie theaters to open, then you better be regular customers of the one that already is open.

SeaCros
01-19-2023, 07:45 AM
It would have to be a Titanic or Gone With The Wind to get us into a regular movie theater.

We have a 86” with a great sound system. Comfy sitting area. Comfy snacks. Comfy nearby potty. Nice pause button.

And we simply wait a bit to see first-run films if we want. No rush.

In our comfy house. That’s us and perhaps a lot more since movie theaters are still hurting.
Sounds like an open invitation. I will bring the popcorn

Worldseries27
01-19-2023, 07:55 AM
i think tv is large enough for two movie theaters. However, it’s not what i think that matters, it’s what the owners of the property think. Barnstorm is unique as a movie theater imho. Additional movies are in the “pipeline”.
100% agreed
it would be classy move by the owners.

HITECH
01-19-2023, 08:21 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

Bring the movies back to Brownwood and Sumter. Enough of the apartments!!

Bilyclub
01-19-2023, 08:26 AM
Bring the movies back to Brownwood and Sumter. Enough of the apartments!!


I'm guessing somebody's been asleep for awhile. There are movies at LSL.

Ray Greene
01-19-2023, 08:31 AM
A live Comedy Club with some good comedians would be a wonderful addition to the Villages!

Ray Greene
01-19-2023, 08:31 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀
A live Comedy Club with some good comedians would be a wonderful addition to the Villages!

Rheinl271
01-19-2023, 08:32 AM
Not going to drive 30 min to go to LSL for a movie.

joeymanko
01-19-2023, 08:53 AM
I think all of the suggestions are fine, and something should be done with that building. Personally, I don't think they should make it into a performing arts center. The Sharon and The Savannah Center supply enough entertainment.

In addition, each regional recreation center has a more than adequate stage, lighting and sound options for "Community Theatre!" Besides, if you have ever tried to rent the Savannah Center for a production, the costs are way too expensive. If they built a Brownwood Performing Arts Center, they costs would probably be even higher.

remarks006
01-19-2023, 08:53 AM
How about a nice dance hall. There are lots of restaurants for dancing but people miss the old Katie Belle’s.
The squares are ok bit dancing on cement is tough.

rustyp
01-19-2023, 09:09 AM
A jailhouse.

Regorp
01-19-2023, 09:24 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀
Living south of 44, we won't drive at night for shows in Spanish Springs, so we would hope for similar venues down this way and Brownwood would be great. Missed some good shows:Tommy James and Blue Oyster Cult. Hoping for a miracle.

mikemalloy
01-19-2023, 09:25 AM
With seasonal residents here and the additional residents in new villages, parking in Brownwood is much more crowded than it used to be. Much as I'd like to see a performing center, I'm not sure that parking would be sufficient.

JMintzer
01-19-2023, 09:36 AM
I'm guessing somebody's been asleep for awhile. There are movies at LSL.

And except for the "discount days", they are used sparingly...

Give them a reason to open the theater and maybe they will...

genobambino
01-19-2023, 10:32 AM
There closed because of all the trouble that goes on around the theaters, it's their way of controlling violence and hooligans from hanging around.

Catalina36
01-19-2023, 10:35 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀
How about a Indoor Market like
Saw Grass???

Bogie Shooter
01-19-2023, 10:40 AM
Living south of 44, we won't drive at night for shows in Spanish Springs, so we would hope for similar venues down this way and Brownwood would be great. Missed some good shows:Tommy James and Blue Oyster Cult. Hoping for a miracle.

Very little traffic late at night?

toddao
01-19-2023, 11:54 AM
I think it's absurd they closed 2/3 of the theaters and reduce the number of viewing times at the remaining theater when the population of the community has soared. I'm 100% in favor of reopening the Brownwood location.

Aces4
01-19-2023, 12:35 PM
Not going to drive 30 min to go to LSL for a movie.

I’m not going to drive 2 minutes anywhere for a movie. See post #9. Apartments are a good idea.

Villager-Wannabe
01-19-2023, 12:41 PM
I would like to see the Villages Blues Society feature blues bands there and open it to the public as well as members of the Villages Blues Society. As an expansion of this idea, it would also be nice to feature other talented, skillful residents within the Villages to showcase their specialty.

Glinds8451
01-19-2023, 12:55 PM
We NEED a movie theater here, and THAT LOCATION WAS PERFECT! Attendance is down, because they haven’t opened it back up with current movie listings!

THEY ALWAYS HAD LONG LINES standing at the ticket window when new movies listed! Please open back up for those of us who enjoy the movie theater experience! There are MANY OF US; our generation craved a night at the movies, and STILL DO!

Whitley
01-19-2023, 01:04 PM
How about an indoor, nude, swimming pool?

We don't need another one.

Whitley
01-19-2023, 01:11 PM
It would have to be a Titanic or Gone With The Wind to get us into a regular movie theater.

We have a 86” with a great sound system. Comfy sitting area. Comfy snacks. Comfy nearby potty. Nice pause button.

And we simply wait a bit to see first-run films if we want. No rush.

In our comfy house. That’s us and perhaps a lot more since movie theaters are still hurting.

I would think fear of covid plays a large part in the low attendance. I was expecting Drive-Ins to make a comeback. They did have them during covid in Sarasota and Naples, but they were temporary and are no longer active.

Two Bills
01-19-2023, 01:22 PM
I would think fear of covid plays a large part in the low attendance. I was expecting Drive-Ins to make a comeback. They did have them during covid in Sarasota and Naples, but they were temporary and are no longer active.

I would hazard that low attendance is because the majority of films being released at the moment, are not worth the trouble and expense of watching!

justjim
01-19-2023, 02:32 PM
If y’all want more movie theaters to open, then you better be regular customers of the one that already is open.

Old Mill theater at Sumter Landing is a “theater too far” for movie goers south of State Route 44. The Barnstorm Theater at Brownwood, which is golf cart accessible, makes a lot of common sense to me. It’s true that movie attendance is down substantially sense Covid but senior adults are traditionally a segment of the population that are large screen movie goers. Open the Barnstorm Theater Mr. Morse!

Jayhawk
01-19-2023, 04:59 PM
I hope so. We need another open movie theater.

Why? Movie attendance is down considerably lower than in pre-pandemic days. Consumers discovered streaming quality shows on their 70-inch high-def with their personal bathroom and snack bar 15 steps away from their recliner. Movie theaters didn't make a lot of money before, it has to be brutal now.

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/

bsloan1960
01-19-2023, 09:28 PM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

How about a brick and mortar site for Talk of The Villages? Stay with me: A bunch of really nice, friendly people gather inside and exchange friendly banter and help each other by answering questions. Outside there is a sign reading, "No bullying allowed- bullies will be kicked out"... so newcomers assume it's safe. But the sign is a joke and not only are bullies allowed inside- they are encouraged to be sarcastic and demeaning because they know the sign is just for show. Bullies come every day because just like alligators in a duck pond- it's easy pickings for predators who salivate when biting their prey.

JMintzer
01-19-2023, 09:34 PM
Very little traffic late at night?

Exactly. Come 9:00pm, the streets are deserted...

JMintzer
01-19-2023, 09:35 PM
There closed because of all the trouble that goes on around the theaters, it's their way of controlling violence and hooligans from hanging around.

Interesting take... Anything to back that up?

JMintzer
01-19-2023, 09:39 PM
We NEED a movie theater here, and THAT LOCATION WAS PERFECT! Attendance is down, because they haven’t opened it back up with current movie listings!

THEY ALWAYS HAD LONG LINES standing at the ticket window when new movies listed! Please open back up for those of us who enjoy the movie theater experience! There are MANY OF US; our generation craved a night at the movies, and STILL DO!

"Had" long lines...

The one @ LSL still doesn't have long lines, except on discount days...

JMintzer
01-19-2023, 09:42 PM
I would hazard that low attendance is because the majority of films being released at the moment, are not worth the trouble and expense of watching!

Could certainly be part of the problem...

Worldseries27
01-20-2023, 06:08 AM
interesting take... Anything to back that up?
why can't the movie houses be as private as the recreation centers and pools. Only admit villagers with their id's and guests they bring with them?

mlmarr
01-20-2023, 07:13 AM
I think it is ridiculous that we only have one movie theatre in a community of 130,000 residents. Brownwood theatre is great, comfortable and convenient for ALL residents. Why can’t they reopen as a movie theatre. Perhaps even incorporate a Lazy Mac type business in lobby with musics, comedy, entertainment?
Hollywood is dead ... theatres are becoming a thing of our past.. streaming is the new arena ..

wsachs
01-20-2023, 07:31 AM
I hope so. We need another open movie theater.
Not based on the daily attendance in Lake Sumter. Except for maybe Monday's.

Marathon Man
01-20-2023, 07:56 AM
Lots of folks on here asking someone to take a financial risk and open a business in that building. How many of you would be willing to risk your own money?

RPDaly
01-20-2023, 08:04 AM
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Bilyclub
01-20-2023, 08:10 AM
I would like to see the Villages Blues Society feature blues bands there and open it to the public as well as members of the Villages Blues Society. As an expansion of this idea, it would also be nice to feature other talented, skillful residents within the Villages to showcase their specialty.

Bobbie Blackmon plays the squares 3 times a month.

Jayhawk
01-20-2023, 08:16 AM
why can't the movie houses be as private as the recreation centers and pools. Only admit villagers with their id's and guests they bring with them?

The theaters are not amenities. They are public businesses. Would you limit the clientele if you owned the theater? You wouldn't be in business long if you did. Of course, in today's environment, you wouldn't likely be in business long anyway. An in-theater experience is a dying option.

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 08:23 AM
How about a brick and mortar site for Talk of The Villages? Stay with me: A bunch of really nice, friendly people gather inside and exchange friendly banter and help each other by answering questions. Outside there is a sign reading, "No bullying allowed- bullies will be kicked out"... so newcomers assume it's safe. But the sign is a joke and not only are bullies allowed inside- they are encouraged to be sarcastic and demeaning because they know the sign is just for show. Bullies come every day because just like alligators in a duck pond- it's easy pickings for predators who salivate when biting their prey.

Will automatic weapons be permitted? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 08:26 AM
I would like to see the Villages Blues Society feature blues bands there and open it to the public as well as members of the Villages Blues Society. As an expansion of this idea, it would also be nice to feature other talented, skillful residents within the Villages to showcase their specialty.

That ought to please about 4 people. And we thought movie attendance was low.

JMintzer
01-20-2023, 08:30 AM
why can't the movie houses be as private as the recreation centers and pools. Only admit villagers with their id's and guests they bring with them?

Because they can't fill them now with just Villagers...

Do you think that by limiting customers, MORE people will come?

JMintzer
01-20-2023, 08:32 AM
Will automatic weapons be permitted? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

One can only hope...

PugMom
01-20-2023, 08:37 AM
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If there was a poll or I was asked, my vote would definitely be a performing arts center like Savannah or such. If refurbed properly could be extremely nice. With perhaps even more seating than Savannah.

Primarily the location is perfect. Serving areas south of 466a to the far Southern area. Loads of potential customers. And IMO plenty of entertainers to fill the bills.

So rather than leave it a dinosaur with little hope of turning the page back to a movie theater, renovate it to serve the Public better and be another great revenue stream for TV.

that's an excellent idea, although there is a part of me that wishes it could be art cinema, showing independent or foreign films. good ones.

Steve
01-20-2023, 08:39 AM
I suspect a performing arts theater or another movie theater will show up below 44. Don't know that the Barnstorm Theater decision has been made, but talking to some at Sumter, with the exception of Monday or blockbusters, attendance is still down.

If they lowered the price to $6.00 everyday the theaters would be filled every day...just like they are on Mondays. When we moved here (18 years ago) residents could go to any movie any day for $3.50. There were always lines to get in.

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 08:41 AM
that's an excellent idea, although there is a part of me that wishes it could be art cinema, showing independent or foreign films. good ones.

Only one problem with that-----there are no good ones :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Worldseries27
01-20-2023, 08:46 AM
the theaters are not amenities. They are public businesses. Would you limit the clientele if you owned the theater? You wouldn't be in business long if you did. Of course, in today's environment, you wouldn't likely be in business long anyway. An in-theater experience is a dying option.
closing 2 of the 3 theatres in the villages is not a good look for america's friendliest home town. Tv reputation and image is tarnished. Its up to the owners to create a successful business model that will succeed. What's next ? Closed golf courses, squares, pools ?

PugMom
01-20-2023, 08:48 AM
I would hazard that low attendance is because the majority of films being released at the moment, are not worth the trouble and expense of watching!

BINGO, my friend! most of it is all garbage: rehashed marvel junk that isn't even appealing to old comic book fans. those here suggesting the classics should attend some of the shows @ the Sharon, & from what i see, we have good crowds for that. i've said this before, but i'd pay FULL PRICE to see something like Sunset Blvd (or any Billy Wilder film,) on the big screen. i usually have to go to ocala to get any decent offerings, or check out the Fathom Events website. :popcorn:

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 08:54 AM
closing 2 of the 3 theatres in the villages is not a good look for america's friendliest home town. Tv reputation and image is tarnished. Its up to the owners to create a successful business model that will succeed. What's next ? Closed golf courses, squares, pools ?

Exec courses, pools and rec centers are amenities, the squares consist of developer owned space that is rented to businesses.

The developers are not in the movie theater business. They rent the space to all the businesses in the town squares---yes, businesses, they are not amenities. No one runs a business at a loss for long. Or is it the attitude that since "the developers" are "rich" they should take the theater over and throw money down a black hole??? Would any of us????

Jayhawk
01-20-2023, 09:26 AM
If they lowered the price to $6.00 everyday the theaters would be filled every day...just like they are on Mondays. When we moved here (18 years ago) residents could go to any movie any day for $3.50. There were always lines to get in.

How much was milk back then? Gas? Everything?

Jayhawk
01-20-2023, 09:30 AM
that's an excellent idea, although there is a part of me that wishes it could be art cinema, showing independent or foreign films. good ones.

You'd have better luck investing in Buggy Whips.

Number 10 GI
01-20-2023, 11:08 AM
I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

jump4
01-20-2023, 11:08 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

If bowling, I suggest Duck Pin bowling!

mtdjed
01-20-2023, 11:36 AM
I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

This is probably the best idea yet with one huge problem, which is lack of parking. As it is now, it is hard getting parking at the Genesis Health Club. Also, might need an Indian tribe in the local area to get government approval.

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 12:06 PM
I think a casino would be very successful. It would provide a lot more and better paying jobs than a movie theater, generate more traffic for the retail businesses in the area and generate tax revenue. I'm willing to bet it would attract far more patronage than a movie theater showing movies no one wants to see anyway.

This is probably the best idea yet with one huge problem, which is lack of parking. As it is now, it is hard getting parking at the Genesis Health Club. Also, might need an Indian tribe in the local area to get government approval.

Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

Bogie Shooter
01-20-2023, 12:25 PM
Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

Have to agree with you. Casino is a pie in the sky crazy idea……

Freeda
01-20-2023, 12:25 PM
A KatieBelle's type dance hall.

Boomer
01-20-2023, 12:36 PM
I just saw an interview with the woman who owns Hekate — a sober bar in NYC. She opened her sober bar across the street from the regular bar she owns. The sober bar stays really busy and I guess profitable.

The theater space is too big, but using part of it might be just the spot for a sober bar. I bet it would fly.

Google Hekate NYC and/or sober bar to find more info about sober bars. Is TV ready?

Boomer

. . .although, sometimes, I think (fondly, of course) that TV is the world’s biggest high school, so there would always be somebody who would smuggle in booze to spike the mocktails.

Mrs.Guy
01-20-2023, 12:50 PM
A KatieBelle's type dance hall.

;) "KatieBelle's type" by that do you mean - one that loses money? Yeah..... that might work. :undecided: It's absolutely amazing the Developer has gotten as far as they have without the input of all the people that know so much more then they / their staff do. :popcorn:

:a20::a20::a20:

Boomer
01-20-2023, 12:54 PM
I just saw an interview with the woman who owns Hekate — a sober bar in NYC. She opened her sober bar across the street from the regular bar she owns. The sober bar stays really busy and I guess profitable.

The theater space is too big, but using part of it might be just the spot for a sober bar. I bet it would fly.

Google Hekate NYC and/or sober bar to find more info about sober bars. Is TV ready?

Boomer

. . .although, sometimes, I think (fondly, of course) that TV is the world’s biggest high school, so there would always be somebody who would smuggle in booze to spike the mocktails.



I know. I know it is excruciatingly tacky to quote myself. But I wanted to add to the Hekate thing. If you Google that particular sober bar, you will find an intriguing list of the mocktails and their ingredients.

Boomer

newgirl
01-20-2023, 02:00 PM
Sad, especially since movie pass is back. The theaters were always busy, no idea why someone decided to get rid of 2 out of 3 of them.

golfing eagles
01-20-2023, 02:08 PM
Sad, especially since movie pass is back. The theaters were always busy, no idea why someone decided to get rid of 2 out of 3 of them.

Because no one was going to the movies?

Number 10 GI
01-20-2023, 03:05 PM
Interesting. The one problem is parking? I would think the biggest problem is that casinos are illegal in Florida unless it is on Indian land, and I doubt even the family has the clout to get that changed.

That aside, what type of clientele do you think a casino in Brownwood would draw? Multimillionaire whales who would skip Vegas, Atlantic City, and Monte Carlo to come here? Or would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen. At Turning Stone (central NY, ostensibly run by the Oneida Indian Tribe, but actually owned by a group of lawyers from NYC), they would bus people in from 100 miles away, and kindly cash their SS and welfare checks for them. They even had buses that could accommodate the many people in wheelchairs and oxygen tanks that would sit all day in front of a slot machine while smoking 3 packs of cigarettes.

NO THANK YOU!

I believe the casinos in Vegas, Reno and other gaming locations get the bulk of their revenue from average Joe Blow there for the weekend. What is the difference between these same people you mention spending their money with a local bookie or at a casino? This country tried banning alcohol sales and consumption and there was more alcohol consumed during prohibition than before or after. People will find a way to satisfy their need to participate in their preferred vice. At least at the casino the operations are monitored, controlled and revenue paid to the local authority.

As far as Indian land, all you would have to do is get an individual who claims to have Indian blood sue for the land because his great, great, great Indian grandfather had an outhouse on that land. Land that was forcefully taken from his grandfather. If a bunch of New York City lawyers can pull it off, so can a bunch of Florida lawyers.

Makes more sense than anything I've seen suggested so far, or at least a more profitable suggestion.

justjim
01-20-2023, 03:39 PM
We went to see “A man called Otto” at Old Mill yesterday. The theater was about 85%-90% filled - not bad for a 4:45 movie that has already played for several days. We payed $17.00 for our tickets and $15.00 and change for the popcorn and cokes that took almost 15 minutes to get at the concession. Only one concession employee who was working very very hard and doing good work. Out front the Taco Shack also appeared to be doing a good business. It’s hard to believe that Old Mill is not a profitable business and that Barnstorm Theater couldn’t do the same. BTW, “A man called Otto” with Tom Hanks is a very enjoyable movie and Sumter Landing an enjoyable night out.

bark4me
01-20-2023, 09:17 PM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀
How about a decent doggie daycare

jimmy o
01-20-2023, 10:52 PM
A night club venue, something like Katy Bells used to be.

Jerseygirl08
01-21-2023, 11:13 AM
I think it is ridiculous that we only have one movie theatre in a community of 130,000 residents. Brownwood theatre is great, comfortable and convenient for ALL residents. Why can’t they reopen as a movie theatre. Perhaps even incorporate a Lazy Mac type business in lobby with musics, comedy, entertainment? We were sold on TV simply because of all the venues, including THREE MOVIE THEATERS.

Jayhawk
01-21-2023, 12:44 PM
We were sold on TV simply because of all the venues, including THREE MOVIE THEATERS.

Were there 3 here when you decided to move here?

Today there are not enough NEW movies to fill 3 multi-plex theaters.

JMintzer
01-21-2023, 02:15 PM
Were there 3 here when you decided to move here?

Today there are not enough NEW movies to fill 3 multi-plex theaters.

Brownwood wasn't built yet, so there's that...

Stu from NYC
01-21-2023, 04:37 PM
Were there 3 here when you decided to move here?

Today there are not enough NEW movies to fill 3 multi-plex theaters.

Yes but they closed a month after we moved in. Do understand why they have not reopened theater and why they probably never will.

JMintzer
01-21-2023, 04:48 PM
Yes but they closed a month after we moved in. Do understand why they have not reopened theater and why they probably never will.

LSL & Brownwood closed due to covid, right? Not sure if SS closed before that...

golfing eagles
01-21-2023, 05:35 PM
We were sold on TV simply because of all the venues, including THREE MOVIE THEATERS.

Sorry to hear you're moving. But I completely understand, after all, this place absolutely sucks with only one movie theater :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles
01-21-2023, 05:37 PM
LSL & Brownwood closed due to covid, right? Not sure if SS closed before that...

SS was under renovation prior to the pandemic, but then works on it ceased
LSL is open on a limited schedule
Brownwood closed due to poor attendance due to the pandemic and was temporarily transformed into an infusion center

Taltarzac725
01-21-2023, 05:38 PM
Sorry to hear you're moving. But I completely understand, after all, this place absolutely sucks with only one movie theater :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

LSL & Brownwood closed due to covid, right? Not sure if SS closed before that...

I believe they all closed because of COVID. The Rialto's upgrades stalled because of COVID.

mjr0773
01-21-2023, 07:57 PM
How ‘bout and indoor driving range with golf simulators and instruction???

Jayhawk
01-21-2023, 11:28 PM
Brownwood wasn't built yet, so there's that...

You recognized my point. :pepper2:

Jayhawk
01-21-2023, 11:30 PM
How ‘bout and indoor driving range with golf simulators and instruction???

It may be available to lease. You build it, they may come.

JMintzer
01-22-2023, 10:32 AM
SS was under renovation prior to the pandemic, but then works on it ceased
LSL is open on a limited schedule
Brownwood closed due to poor attendance due to the pandemic and was temporarily transformed into an infusion center

I had forgotten that the renovations had already started in SS, and that it was already walled off when I first visited in 2019...

And yes, I knew about the others and the Infusion Center...

JMintzer
01-22-2023, 10:35 AM
You recognized my point. :pepper2:

Yup. Just expounding the point...

Michael 61
03-27-2023, 12:54 PM
BINGO, my friend! most of it is all garbage: rehashed marvel junk that isn't even appealing to old comic book fans. those here suggesting the classics should attend some of the shows @ the Sharon, & from what i see, we have good crowds for that. i've said this before, but i'd pay FULL PRICE to see something like Sunset Blvd (or any Billy Wilder film,) on the big screen. i usually have to go to ocala to get any decent offerings, or check out the Fathom Events website. :popcorn:

I too would pay full price to see classic films on the big screen - I remember back in the 80s and 90s, several theatres in San Francisco would show classic films (double features), where the movies would change daily - often times there would be a theme for the week like “Hitchcock week” or “Bette Davis week” - I’m a big film fan, and would attend most days if we had something like that here - streaming is OK, but nothing compares to the big screen.

Dond1959
03-27-2023, 02:03 PM
You guys are dreaming if you think the developer is going to invest in reopening Barnstorm as a theater until they are ensured it will be profitable. The developer knows EXACTLY how many attend LSL and how much they spend. LSL is probably only profitable because of the Taco place and comedy place in the lobby. As far as Katie Belles. It was a loser then and a loser now. If you have a great idea then approach the developer with your business plan and capital. But as usual most people are willing to spend others money but not theirs.

The developer sells RE, that is their business. All this other stuff is here to sell RE. If it doesn’t sell RE and isn’t profitable it will close (Katie Belles, Hacienda, any business or restaurant). How many people come here and look at houses and say “My God, there is only one movie theater, I can’t live here!”. Keep on complaining but you are wasting your breath.

Taltarzac725
03-27-2023, 02:30 PM
They sold the Villages as having three theaters from when the Barnstorm Theater opened. It was a draw for some people. Especially for those who do not golf.

fdpaq0580
03-27-2023, 04:48 PM
Will automatic weapons be permitted? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Semiautomatic, max calibre = 9 mm.

fdpaq0580
03-27-2023, 05:14 PM
I would like to see an indoor, 3 story lazy river that circles around and through a rainforest with monkeys, lizards and butterflies. Among the tree limbs and vines, nymphs wander, bringing you intoxicating tropical cocktails. At rivers end, lovely mermaids and handsome mermen (if my lady prefers) carry you to the swim up bar for a final drink and massage before carrying you home in our Rolls-Royce rolling hot tub. All one of the free amenities that comes with being a Villages resident, living the lifestyle.

dewilson58
03-27-2023, 05:26 PM
They sold the Villages as having three theaters from when the Barnstorm Theater opened. It was a draw for some people. Especially for those who do not golf.

We enjoyed it, but obviously we and a few thousand other people did not enjoy it enough to be profitable.

Taltarzac725
03-27-2023, 06:15 PM
I would like to see an indoor, 3 story lazy river that circles around and through a rainforest with monkeys, lizards and butterflies. Among the tree limbs and vines, nymphs wander, bringing you intoxicating tropical cocktails. At rivers end, lovely mermaids and handsome mermen (if my lady prefers) carry you to the swim up bar for a final drink and massage before carrying you home in our Rolls-Royce rolling hot tub. All one of the free amenities that comes with being a Villages resident, living the lifestyle.

Sounds like heaven but nothing like real life.

Whitley
03-28-2023, 08:07 AM
I think TV is large enough for two movie theaters. However, it’s not what I think that matters, it’s what the owners of the property think. Barnstorm is unique as a movie theater IMHO. Additional movies are in the “pipeline”.

Are all commercial real estate in the Villages owned by the developer? Is it possible for a private investor to purchase commercial space?

Lottoguy
03-28-2023, 09:07 AM
Giant indoor entertainment complex. Something like a Dave & Busters kind of place. Maybe throw in a large indoor go cart track too. Indoor shuffleboard courts a very popular up north. Also add a a dozen lanes of bowling.

C4Boston
03-28-2023, 09:30 AM
Resurrect Katie Belle's dinner theatre. Live shows and great food would be attractive down here in Brownwood. Room for second story balcony bar also.

JMintzer
03-28-2023, 09:53 AM
Giant indoor entertainment complex. Something like a Dave & Busters kind of place. Maybe throw in a large indoor go cart track too. Indoor shuffleboard courts a very popular up north. Also add a a dozen lanes of bowling.

How big do you think that building is???

JMintzer
03-28-2023, 09:56 AM
Resurrect Katie Belle's dinner theatre. Live shows and great food would be attractive down here in Brownwood. Room for second story balcony bar also.

Sure, why not start another business just like the one that failed...

The two dinner theaters near me in MD closed years ago... Seems no one is interested in that sort of entertainment anymore....

Dusty_Star
03-28-2023, 10:26 AM
Interesting. The one problem is parking?

... would you get an endless stream of people gambling their social security and welfare checks, just as you get at just about every "reservation" casino I've seen....

NO THANK YOU!

Agree completely, just would be taking rent & grocery money away from people who can ill afford it.

dhdallas
03-28-2023, 10:56 AM
Since it doesn’t appear movies are coming back to the Brownwood Cinemas, what do you think should be done with the property? I’d like to see either 1) Performing Arts venue 2) Bowling Alley 3) Ice skating Rink - anything but apartments 😀

It doesn't matter what anyone wants. The business that pays the most for the location will get it.

Whitley
03-28-2023, 11:53 AM
It doesn't matter what anyone wants. The business that pays the most for the location will get it.

Pays the most, as in a lease -or- can one purchase commercial property in the Villages?

What replaced Katie Belles?

JMintzer
03-28-2023, 04:48 PM
Pays the most, as in a lease -or- can one purchase commercial property in the Villages?

What replaced Katie Belles?

The plan is to convert it to apartments...

kkingston57
03-29-2023, 03:54 PM
There closed because of all the trouble that goes on around the theaters, it's their way of controlling violence and hooligans from hanging around.

Still looking for the violence. Only Hooligans that I have seen around here is/was a popular band at the squares who played British rock and roll music.

Freehiker
03-30-2023, 06:44 AM
How about an indoor, nude, swimming pool?

Agreed, this would be fantastic.