Ages of residents North vs Southern Area

[marvinh11791]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

[billethkid]

Just as many "younger" folks buying resales.
One's age does not dictate where folks are buying.
"More younger" buying new.....probably.

As has been said by many before age here is a relative number....usually means/affects nothing/nobody.

Usually just an in correct notion some (that do not live here ) have about age.

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[vintageogauge]

One thing for sure is all of the new assisted living and senior apartments are north and there are a lot of them being built.

[coffeebean]

One thing for sure is all of the new assisted living and senior apartments are north and there are a lot of them being built.

Most everything that is being built is in the northern Villages. Not much down south at this point.

[ThirdOfFive]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.

[npwalters]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

I live in a village between 466 and 27/441. Our community is actually getting younger and that is common. The reason? Those that originally bought 20 years ago or more are - sadly - either passing on or getting too old to live alone. On my cul-de-sac about half of us are the second or 3rd owner and the average age is moving toward the low to mid 60s.

[njbchbum]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

Pretty true? -probably
Pretty common? - probably not

What is most important to you?
* Young neighbors who might not be full-time and would be renting out their home or full-time residents who are welcoming?
* Do you need established shopping areas or are you content to wait for shopping areas to grow?
* Do you want mature landscaping and a larger lot or is that not important?
* Do you need to be close to developed exec and champ golf or is that something you can wait for?
* Do you need convenience or is that something you can wait for?
* Will you mind paying the bond on a new property or prefer to buy one with all or partial bond already paid off?
* Would you prefer to buy the bare bones new model home or one with many/most if the improvements completed - like attic stairs or a pool or plantation shutters or a golf cart garage, etc. or pay the after-market price for them?

There is so much more than age to be considered when contemplating moving to the Villages.

[Bogie Shooter]

Pretty true? -probably
Pretty common? - probably not

What is most important to you?
* Young neighbors who might not be full-time and would be renting out their home or full-time residents who are welcoming?
* Do you need established shopping areas or are you content to wait for shopping areas to grow?
* Do you want mature landscaping and a larger lot or is that not important?
* Do you need to be close to developed exec and champ golf or is that something you can wait for?
* Do you need convenience or is that something you can wait for?
* Will you mind paying the bond on a new property or prefer to buy one with all or partial bond already paid off?
* Would you prefer to buy the bare bones new model home or one with many/most if the improvements completed - like attic stairs or a pool or plantation shutters or a golf cart garage, etc. or pay the after-market price for them?

There is so much more than age to be considered when contemplating moving to the Villages.

Well said!

[kansasr]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

Here are the average age of registered voters in The VIllages

[JMintzer]

Here are the average age of registered voters in The VIllages

Remember, not all homeowners are "registered to vote" in FL...

[MrChip72]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

[Two Bills]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

I think you see something that is not there.
I have read all previous posts and see nothing detrimental written about locations north or south. :shrug:
"Just the facts man!"

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Pretty true? -probably
Pretty common? - probably not

What is most important to you?
* Young neighbors who might not be full-time and would be renting out their home or full-time residents who are welcoming?
* Do you need established shopping areas or are you content to wait for shopping areas to grow?
* Do you want mature landscaping and a larger lot or is that not important?
* Do you need to be close to developed exec and champ golf or is that something you can wait for?
* Do you need convenience or is that something you can wait for?
* Will you mind paying the bond on a new property or prefer to buy one with all or partial bond already paid off?
* Would you prefer to buy the bare bones new model home or one with many/most if the improvements completed - like attic stairs or a pool or plantation shutters or a golf cart garage, etc. or pay the after-market price for them?

There is so much more than age to be considered when contemplating moving to the Villages.


Excellent response. Truth in every sentence.
Thank you

[Laker14]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

not really, not yet, but it's probably just a matter of time before it does.

[mrf0151]

Another factor on choosing a home is the "Bond" cost. Most of the homes north of 466A have a low bond or no bond remaining that will be passed on to the new buyer. If memory serves me right, bonds north of 466A were $20K or lower less compared to the new bond pricing now around $40K.

[Laker14]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

As usual on TOTV, you ask a question about age differences, and get answers about trees and bonds.

If you are looking for opinions, relating directly to your question, my opinion is that it is a fairly accurate assessment. It is not universally so, as I know at least a dozen couples older than I am ( I am 69, and live in Poinciana , I bought a resale 2 years ago), who have sold their homes north of 466A and bought new homes, some custom built, in the newer Villages south of 44.
Also, when we moved into our home in Poinciana 2 years ago, we seemed to be the "kids", however, in 2 years, a dozen homes near us have changed hands, and they all seem to have been purchased by younger people, in their last years of employment, or newly retired.

However, despite those anomalies (at least what I consider to be anomalies), I think the general trend is exactly what you describe. I base that on a very unscientific observation on my part from people I've met golfing, and even more who I've met on the pickleball courts. The younger ones seem to be from south of 44, and the older ones north.

Not very scientific, but that's my opinion.

[asianthree]

Another factor on choosing a home is the "Bond" cost. Most of the homes north of 466A have a low bond or no bond remaining that will be passed on to the new buyer. If memory serves me right, bonds north of 466A were $20K or lower less compared to the new bond pricing now around $40K.

Bond on our preowned house built in 2009 still had $24,000 when we purchased in 2014.

[Two Bills]

The Villages is very green and good for the enviroment.
It recycles oldies!

[Rwirish]

Very little relation between age and where people are living.

[La lamy]

It is a generalization. As people leave us in the north, many younger people move in. But as others have said, age is a number, it's all about enjoying fellow retirees here.

[MandoMan]

Here are the average age of registered voters in The VIllages

Thank you. So the average age between 466 and 466A is just 1.25 years younger than the average north of 466. Interesting. I’ve recently moved from just north of 466 and Morse to five minutes north of 466A and Buena Vista. One thing I’ve noticed is that several of the Rec centers where I have activities are closer, but most of the places where I shop on 441 are ten to fifteen minutes farther away. Ten minutes farther to my doctor in Taveres or to Ocala. For people south of 44, it’s nearly as close to Orlando.

[newgirl]

Not true! Maybe 5 yrs ago but those that bought north in the 90's-2010 have been moving on to their next home and it is all younger folks in my area.

[BiPartisan]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

As I was told when we moved here, the Villages was built from the North to South. The average age increases as you go north since many bought around retirement age and bought in new areas, so 20 years ago the 65 year olds were buying in and around the area around the Palmer Legends area (example) built in 2004. It was also suggested that buying in a new area most your neighbors are around your age and looking to establish a social structure, in older areas groups are established. Certainly not the only consideration, but the question was about age.

[bowlingal]

Marvin, don't believe everything you read

[Janie123]

I live in Santiago north of 466 (bought 2020 and we were 62 at the time) and my house and the 3 houses around me are all recent resales. The one across the street, to my left and to my right all have buyers <65. We all bought from original owners except one, and they were here 15+ years. They all were 80+ years of age. So, I concur that the north villages are getting younger.

We are happy where we live, quiet and close to great mature golf courses both Championship and Executive. IMHO, Glenview is one of the Villages best as far as design and maintenance and the best practice facilities in TV. We do have friends that bought in St. Catherine and are <60.

[GaryKoca]

While it is true that age is relative, the graph clearly shows that the age of people north of 466 is higher than the people who live south of 44.

[Sunny923!]

Most everything that is being built is in the northern Villages. Not much down south at this point.

Wow really? You are funny! (And clueless)

[Fastskiguy]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

They claim all of the shopping and entertainment and now claim all of the young people too. I guess it really is better up North. I might have to visit someday.

Joe

[dsnrbec]

We live south of the Turnpike in a neighborhood that is less than 3 yrs old. We are (by our estimation) the oldest couple on our street. We are in our early 70’s. More than a few are still working or newly retired. We even have 30 something’s across the street. As I walk the neighborhoods, it is definitely a younger demographic than our previous neighborhood north of 44. It bothered us at first to be the oldest but we’ve grown to love living around younger people.

[George Page]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

Other than the desire to buy a new home, I fail to see why anyone would purchase a house south of 44. The amenities are considerably thinner. Simply compare the number of golf courses. Then compare Sumter Landing to Sawgrass.
Keep in mind, a new house has no ‘new house’ appeal to potential buyers the day after it’s initially occupied.
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. South of 44 is an all bedroom suburb of the real Villages.

[Marathon Man]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

And here it is:

Other than the desire to buy a new home, I fail to see why anyone would purchase a house south of 44. The amenities are considerably thinner. Simply compare the number of golf courses. Then compare Sumter Landing to Sawgrass.
Keep in mind, a new house has no ‘new house’ appeal to potential buyers the day after it’s initially occupied.
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. South of 44 is an all bedroom suburb of the real Villages.

[asianthree]

Most everything that is being built is in the northern Villages. Not much down south at this point.

Wow really? You are funny! (And clueless)

Some posters are very negative if one lives anywhere except their village. Coffeebean truly believes, the south has no curb appeal, flowers, waterfalls, (thinking one means bubblers in the ponds), shopping and restaurants.
So sad some residents truly believe all of us who live south, are so deprived of the utopia they reside in.

We came from coffeebeans area, and have slowly moved to the south to the new areas.

So glad we did, enjoy the slightly different lifestyle in the south. But will say that 5 minute cart ride over the bridge, to Brownwood is just grueling for restaurants, and grocery:1rotfl:

[Marathon Man]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

I have lived in different places in TV. I now live in the southern area. I can tell you that you see more activity down here. Walkers, riders, runners, etc. The design of the area includes many more places (trails etc.) for those who wish to be active. Less focus on golf. Edna's and Sawgrass are smaller "gathering spots" and are great.

And yes, I believe that it is a younger population along with being more active.

As far as which area is better - Ignore all the posts that talk poorly about one area or another. Many people speak from negative emotions and therefore should be disregarded. It is their way of dealing with something.

[Joecool]

One thing I will say is the perception of young people being more fit and active than old people is not the way it is here in the villages. I love the new areas because everyone moves in together at the same time pretty much and makes their friends. My next door neighbors were almost 3 decades older than me and they were great people.

[Ptmckiou]

Generally speaking, the older the part the villages the older the over all population because many bought back when it was being built. The new section, (again generally speaking ) are new retirees so they are a younger group. You will find a mix of people in each section, but definitely more older up north, and younger south. We have a neighbor that lived in within walking distance of Sumter landing and they moved down south and love it. Why? Everyone on their street didn’t want to do anything after 7pm because most were 75+. No one wanted throw neighborhood street parties, and be very active. They moved down south and got exactly what they wanted. Again, there are exceptions to everything, but people just retiring or retiring in a few years, would make up at least 70% of the southern group. My stat comes from observation and living in the south.

[seecapecod]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

I live in Chatham and seeing a lot of houses turning over to younger folks- husband and I are in our early 60’s- I’m still working- and we also see very active 65+ folks!

[Rodneysblue]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH
Well we bought in Orange Blossom and I’m 64 and my wife is 59, so I guess it all depends on what you mean by old or young.

[ThirdOfFive]

Wow really? You are funny! (And clueless)
I believe the reference is to assisted living/memory care facilities. That huge one being built just off the path adjacent to Hole #1 on Saddlebrook, for example.

Makes sense. As couples age it is pretty certain that one or the other of them will require such care, while the other one doesn't. While there are numerous exceptions the general rule is that the older folks live "north". Having such a facility close by makes it easier to visit the person in the facility

[MidWestIA]

as a group people buy in the current new area in their 50s and it keeps moving south over time

[ThirdOfFive]

Some posters are very negative if one lives anywhere except their village. Coffeebean truly believes, the south has no curb appeal, flowers, waterfalls, (thinking one means bubblers in the ponds), shopping and restaurants.
So sad some residents truly believe all of us who live south, are so deprived of the utopia they reside in.

We came from coffeebeans area, and have slowly moved to the south to the new areas.

So glad we did, enjoy the slightly different lifestyle in the south. But will say that 5 minute cart ride over the bridge, to Brownwood is just grueling for restaurants, and grocery:1rotfl:
Great post.

The truth is that it is ALL subjective. The Villages is not one huge entity, but rather a series of neighborhoods, most of pretty homogeneous design and all with their own particular flavor and appeal. It was designed to be that way. Some folks are attracted by four-bed, three-bath homes with swimming pools. Others prefer homes of more modest dimensions with commensurately less maintenance. Avid golfers might seek out a neighborhood close to executive and/or championship golf courses. Other people couldn't care less about golf. Some people crave peace and quiet so a home on a cul-de-sac or circle that also serves as a golf-cart shortcut to a square might not be their cup of tea. Others couldn't care less. Some like tall, mature oaks with a whole lot of shade, while others shiver at the thought of raking up leaves and acorns. And so on.

That is the appeal of The Villages. Something for everybody. Just because it might not be to one's particular taste certainly doesn't mean that it won't appeal to another's.

[Nana2Teddy]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

We wanted brand new coming from a 50 y/o fixer upper in CA. We are 68/70 and bought brand new down south. Several of our neighbors are our age or close to it. We’ve met all ages down here, not just younger retirees.

[George Page]

And here it is:

Didn’t want to disappoint.

[geobar]

The Age of New Home Sales in "The Villages".

Very True statistics as new homes will always be sold to younger people who are new retirees or buying before they retire and rent before they move to "The Villages".
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I blame this rental aspect on "The Village" Cloned Salespeople convincing people to buy a new home to rent making their sales higher.
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Perhaps you do not believe me, Just ask people you meet what they know about this.
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When we moved into "Village of Amelia" in 2009 and had a new home built everyone was about the same age. Here i could fit 6 cars parked in my driveway
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We found the same scenario upon moving to Pine Hills in 2018 where we found a home being built that we liked. This home had a large corner property with a fenced-in yard for our dog. On this property, I could have parked 4 to 5 cars in my driveway.
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If you happen to look at homes Southe of CR-44 you will as well notice the properties are smaller. In some properties, you can't even fit a larger car in the driveway as they have been shortened. Whereas on most properties you can fit only one or two cars. Some Villas have long driveways which seems strange to me.

Then in 2020, we decided to move out of "The Villages" as the newer homes South of CR-44 had no Shopping, only one Restaurant, nor enough Recreation Centers were built to accommodate the influx of new purchasers. Terrible for new buyers.
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This forced them to use all the facilities North of CR-44 making it way overcrowded.
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Seems the "Morse Money-hungry Moguls" are more concerned with making high profits from selling new homes rather than providing Shopping, Restaurants, and Recreation Centers to accommodate the new home buyers South of CR-44.
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This is shameful of them, as the originators of "The Villages" built the community first to attract buyers, not like now building homes first South of CR-44. Maybe a Rec. Center every now and then.
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Please don't get me wrong we did like "The Villages" and were attracted there to retire as they offered many stores, restaurants, and Recreation Centers and 2 Town Squares. Then about 7 years ago they built the "Brownwood Town Square" opening in 2012 as they were building new homes around it.
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If you noticed South of CR-44 there is no Town Square for all of the resident's enjoyment.


Here are the average age of registered voters in The VIllages

[Bogie Shooter]

The Age of New Home Sales in "The Villages".

Very True statistics as new homes will always be sold to younger people who are new retirees or buying before they retire and rent before they move to "The Villages".
.
I blame this rental aspect on "The Village" Cloned Salespeople convincing people to buy a new home to rent making their sales higher.
.
Perhaps you do not believe me, Just ask people you meet what they know about this.
.
When we moved into "Village of Amelia" in 2009 and had a new home built everyone was about the same age. Here i could fit 6 cars parked in my driveway
.
We found the same scenario upon moving to Pine Hills in 2018 where we found a home being built that we liked. This home had a large corner property with a fenced-in yard for our dog. On this property, I could have parked 4 to 5 cars in my driveway.
.
If you happen to look at homes Southe of CR-44 you will as well notice the properties are smaller. In some properties, you can't even fit a larger car in the driveway as they have been shortened. Whereas on most properties you can fit only one or two cars. Some Villas have long driveways which seems strange to me.

Then in 2020, we decided to move out of "The Villages" as the newer homes South of CR-44 had no Shopping, only one Restaurant, nor enough Recreation Centers were built to accommodate the influx of new purchasers. Terrible for new buyers.
.
This forced them to use all the facilities North of CR-44 making it way overcrowded.
.
Seems the "Morse Money-hungry Moguls" are more concerned with making high profits from selling new homes rather than providing Shopping, Restaurants, and Recreation Centers to accommodate the new home buyers South of CR-44.
.
This is shameful of them, as the originators of "The Villages" built the community first to attract buyers, not like now building homes first South of CR-44. Maybe a Rec. Center every now and then.
.
Please don't get me wrong we did like "The Villages" and were attracted there to retire as they offered many stores, restaurants, and Recreation Centers and 2 Town Squares. Then about 7 years ago they built the "Brownwood Town Square" opening in 2012 as they were building new homes around it.
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If you noticed South of CR-44 there is no Town Square for all of the resident's enjoyment.

You should come back (for a visit) and see what has happened since you left. You could up date your complaints.

[Lisas1031]

I'm guessing that some to many of the new buyers are snow birds and vote wherever full-time home is so they don't show in the graph of FL register voters. I'm one of those along with another neighbor and other friends. 60's, own homes here, snowbirds and vote at home.

[billethkid]

Well we bought in Orange Blossom and I’m 64 and my wife is 59, so I guess it all depends on what you mean by old or young.

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[frostola]

I asked a bartender down at Sawgrass if he found more of a younger generation moving in south of 44, he replied “ yes and they’re very active down here and not in knitting clubs like up north”. I informed him that there are a lot of active people north of the border and were not all in knitting clubs.

[kansasr]

Given that there are almost 98,000 registered voters in The Villages, I'd say it's a pretty representative sample.

[donfey]

I live in a village between 466 and 27/441. Our community is actually getting younger and that is common. The reason? Those that originally bought 20 years ago or more are - sadly - either passing on or getting too old to live alone. On my cul-de-sac about half of us are the second or 3rd owner and the average age is moving toward the low to mid 60s.

Since 466 T's into 27/441, I have no idea where the heck you live.

[PugMom]

Marvin, don't believe everything you read

:1rotfl::clap2:, so true! when we moved here aprox 5 yrs ago, it was the 'new' area, south of 44. we were the 1st to move into our village still under construction. i am 58 & hubby is 64. our 1st neighbor was in his 70's, but still young @ heart. our next neighbor was 65, recently retired from Missouri & looking for golf 24/7. the next few were in their late 50's, including 1 couple from Canada who were seeking warmth & sunshine. so it's a mixed bag-- now we have all ages & stages of life. it's a loving, caring neighborhood, we all know each other & are ready to help out whenever possible. C'mon down Marvin! we are waiting for you :coolsmiley:

[Bogie Shooter]

I asked a bartender down at Sawgrass if he found more of a younger generation moving in south of 44, he replied “ yes and they’re very active down here and not in knitting clubs like up north”. I informed him that there are a lot of active people north of the border and were not all in knitting clubs.

Bartenders good source of information.:1rotfl:

[ahrens fox]

Well said!
great and appropriate comment. where to live is more than age dependent.

[FloridaLady]

I live between 466 and 466a in a 2006 house. (Bought about 2.5 years ago) I still work whereas I haven’t met anyone on my street under retirement age. Many are original owners. Yes I have met many younger that live in the newer areas. However, I love Sumter area and wouldn’t trade it.

[rsmurano]

The Age of New Home Sales in "The Villages".

Very True statistics as new homes will always be sold to younger people who are new retirees or buying before they retire and rent before they move to "The Villages".
.
I blame this rental aspect on "The Village" Cloned Salespeople convincing people to buy a new home to rent making their sales higher.
.
Perhaps you do not believe me, Just ask people you meet what they know about this.
.
When we moved into "Village of Amelia" in 2009 and had a new home built everyone was about the same age. Here i could fit 6 cars parked in my driveway
.
We found the same scenario upon moving to Pine Hills in 2018 where we found a home being built that we liked. This home had a large corner property with a fenced-in yard for our dog. On this property, I could have parked 4 to 5 cars in my driveway.
.
If you happen to look at homes Southe of CR-44 you will as well notice the properties are smaller. In some properties, you can't even fit a larger car in the driveway as they have been shortened. Whereas on most properties you can fit only one or two cars. Some Villas have long driveways which seems strange to me.

Then in 2020, we decided to move out of "The Villages" as the newer homes South of CR-44 had no Shopping, only one Restaurant, nor enough Recreation Centers were built to accommodate the influx of new purchasers. Terrible for new buyers.
.
This forced them to use all the facilities North of CR-44 making it way overcrowded.
.
Seems the "Morse Money-hungry Moguls" are more concerned with making high profits from selling new homes rather than providing Shopping, Restaurants, and Recreation Centers to accommodate the new home buyers South of CR-44.
.
This is shameful of them, as the originators of "The Villages" built the community first to attract buyers, not like now building homes first South of CR-44. Maybe a Rec. Center every now and then.
.
Please don't get me wrong we did like "The Villages" and were attracted there to retire as they offered many stores, restaurants, and Recreation Centers and 2 Town Squares. Then about 7 years ago they built the "Brownwood Town Square" opening in 2012 as they were building new homes around it.
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If you noticed South of CR-44 there is no Town Square for all of the resident's enjoyment.

I prefer the south areas for multiple reasons: newer looking homes, most homes north of 466 look really old; the golf cart paths are so much better in the south, no axle breaking curbs when entering a path; they have separated walking paths from the golf cart paths in many areas in the south; traffic is much lighter down here; people drive better/faster in the south, in the north part people are older and average 10mph slower and take 5 or more seconds to start when the green light appears; the south area will have all the new and updated squares and will be the center of the villages in a few years.

[MrChip72]

They claim all of the shopping and entertainment and now claim all of the young people too. I guess it really is better up North. I might have to visit someday.

Probably next they'll claim that the average homes are bigger and the housing styles look more modern in the North. :a20:

[AliAst]

Here are the average age of registered voters in The VIllages

A few issues with this statistic as it applies to this thread... voters are RESIDENTS ONLY, so it's not taking into account snowbirds. I also didn't see what year this chart was from (it might have been there, just didn't see it). And considering that those buying either in the North or South Villages who ARE in the younger age bracket, odds are they haven't fully retired and are therefore not living here full-time and therefore not voting, which skews the whole point...

That said, new buyers are definitely steered to the newer villages with statements like "it's easier to make friends in a community where everyone is new; in established villages they've already made their friends." We bought a resale house north of 466 when we moved here three years ago and our community could not have been more welcoming. Just about everyone wanted to get to know "the new people". And yes, villages established 20 years ago tend to have older residents, but as someone else commented, these villages are turning over as residents "age out" (either sadly by passing on or moving to assisted living/memory care). There are so many other considerations as to where you choose to live, other than the age of the other residents, because that is always subject to change.

[MrChip72]

Other than the desire to buy a new home, I fail to see why anyone would purchase a house south of 44. The amenities are considerably thinner. Simply compare the number of golf courses. Then compare Sumter Landing to Sawgrass.


Interesting when people assume that Sawgrass is the nearest square to everyone south of 44. I live in DeLuna and Brownwood is the closest square 8 mins by golf cart. This is the case for many people living south of 44.

I'm not sure what amenities are "thinner", they're just different. Is there an equivalent to "Edna's on the green" in the North section that I don't know about? What about Pitch n putt and Putt n Play courses? I don't recall any of those in the North.

[vintageogauge]

Most everything that is being built is in the northern Villages. Not much down south at this point.

Let's see, a school, a hospital, a retail complex on 470, all south of 44, lots of stuff but no assisted living plans that I have seen, all that type of stuff is up north.

[coffeebean]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.

The legend I have heard is that on average Villagers will move three times within The Villages.......initial home, second home than final home.

[coffeebean]

Wow really? You are funny! (And clueless)

I didn't mean to be funny, just realistic. I referred to "northern Villages" as those areas north of 44. Please show me where the is more building of retail south of 44 vs retail being built north of 44. I was not referring to residential homes, if that is what you thought I was referring to.

[coffeebean]

Some posters are very negative if one lives anywhere except their village. Coffeebean truly believes, the south has no curb appeal, flowers, waterfalls, (thinking one means bubblers in the ponds), shopping and restaurants.
So sad some residents truly believe all of us who live south, are so deprived of the utopia they reside in.

We came from coffeebeans area, and have slowly moved to the south to the new areas.

So glad we did, enjoy the slightly different lifestyle in the south. But will say that 5 minute cart ride over the bridge, to Brownwood is just grueling for restaurants, and grocery:1rotfl:

Take a look at the NE corner of 466A and Morse Blvd. That pond has a gorgeous waterfall. It is not a bubbler by any means. There is also all new plantings north of 44, including that beautiful corner on Morse and 466A. Go south of 44 on Morse Blvd. and all you see are huge power lines on one side of that roadway. That infrastructure was there already and underground utilities was not done back then.

[coffeebean]

I have lived in different places in TV. I now live in the southern area. I can tell you that you see more activity down here. Walkers, riders, runners, etc. The design of the area includes many more places (trails etc.) for those who wish to be active. Less focus on golf. Edna's and Sawgrass are smaller "gathering spots" and are great.

And yes, I believe that it is a younger population along with being more active.

As far as which area is better - Ignore all the posts that talk poorly about one area or another. Many people speak from negative emotions and therefore should be disregarded. It is their way of dealing with something.

Believe me, if my knees were kinder to me at this age, I would love to take walks along the paths that the southern villages offer. I used to walk on a several mile path in the woods of New Jersey years ago. Could not possibly do that now. Those walking paths that are beautiful and plentiful are very much loved by folks living in the south but don't temp me in the least. The younger demographic is drawn to the southern Villagers for that reason.

[JMintzer]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

That's what you got from this thread? Just be happy where you live and ignore the noise...

[JMintzer]

The Age of New Home Sales in "The Villages".

Very True statistics as new homes will always be sold to younger people who are new retirees or buying before they retire and rent before they move to "The Villages".
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I blame this rental aspect on "The Village" Cloned Salespeople convincing people to buy a new home to rent making their sales higher.
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Perhaps you do not believe me, Just ask people you meet what they know about this.
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When we moved into "Village of Amelia" in 2009 and had a new home built everyone was about the same age. Here i could fit 6 cars parked in my driveway
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We found the same scenario upon moving to Pine Hills in 2018 where we found a home being built that we liked. This home had a large corner property with a fenced-in yard for our dog. On this property, I could have parked 4 to 5 cars in my driveway.
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If you happen to look at homes Southe of CR-44 you will as well notice the properties are smaller. In some properties, you can't even fit a larger car in the driveway as they have been shortened. Whereas on most properties you can fit only one or two cars. Some Villas have long driveways which seems strange to me.

Then in 2020, we decided to move out of "The Villages" as the newer homes South of CR-44 had no Shopping, only one Restaurant, nor enough Recreation Centers were built to accommodate the influx of new purchasers. Terrible for new buyers.
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This forced them to use all the facilities North of CR-44 making it way overcrowded.
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Seems the "Morse Money-hungry Moguls" are more concerned with making high profits from selling new homes rather than providing Shopping, Restaurants, and Recreation Centers to accommodate the new home buyers South of CR-44.
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This is shameful of them, as the originators of "The Villages" built the community first to attract buyers, not like now building homes first South of CR-44. Maybe a Rec. Center every now and then.
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Please don't get me wrong we did like "The Villages" and were attracted there to retire as they offered many stores, restaurants, and Recreation Centers and 2 Town Squares. Then about 7 years ago they built the "Brownwood Town Square" opening in 2012 as they were building new homes around it.
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If you noticed South of CR-44 there is no Town Square for all of the resident's enjoyment.

Just a point of information...

The driveways on the new homes "south of 44 aren't due to "smaller lots". They simply moved the houses closer to the streets, because they found that people wanted BIGGER BACK YARDS and less of the "kissing lanais"...

There is no "GREEDY DEVELOPER" conspiracy at play...

But, you wouldn't know that because you MOVED AWAY 3 YEARS AGO...

[JMintzer]

I'm guessing that some to many of the new buyers are snow birds and vote wherever full-time home is so they don't show in the graph of FL register voters. I'm one of those along with another neighbor and other friends. 60's, own homes here, snowbirds and vote at home.

While I'm not a snowbird, I'm still not a "full time FL resident, so I'm still registered to vote in MD... (Oh, and I would have skewed the 466A-44 demographic younger...)

[JMintzer]

I asked a bartender down at Sawgrass if he found more of a younger generation moving in south of 44, he replied “ yes and they’re very active down here and not in knitting clubs like up north”. I informed him that there are a lot of active people north of the border and were not all in knitting clubs.

Yes, I'm sure a bartender would know plenty about "knitting clubs"...

I've been to bars/restaurants in all of the squares. They are just as crowded in SS as they are in LSL and Brownwood and "all the way down" to Sawgrass... :boxing2:

[JMintzer]

Given that there are almost 98,000 registered voters in The Villages, I'd say it's a pretty representative sample.

Except that there are 150,000 people who own homes there...

[JMintzer]

Bartenders good source of information.:1rotfl:

Especially if you want a hooker or some drugs... Wait, what? :loco:

[Bogie Shooter]

Take a look at the NE corner of 466A and Morse Blvd. That pond has a gorgeous waterfall. It is not a bubbler by any means. There is also all new plantings north of 44, including that beautiful corner on Morse and 466A. Go south of 44 on Morse Blvd. and all you see are huge power lines on one side of that roadway. That infrastructure was there already and underground utilities was not done back then.

So, why is it you are going south of 44 on Morse?
Asking for a friend…….

[coffeebean]

So, why is it you are going south of 44 on Morse?
Asking for a friend…….

Hubby and I have taken three trips south of 44. Once to Edna's to see Johnny Wild and two of back up singers during the height of the pandemic. Then we took a ride to take a walk on one of the walking paths that does not allow golf carts. That path was in full sun so it wasn't very pleasant. Recently we took a ride just to see how the area is coming along and to check out Sawgrass. I was not impressed with the Sawgrass inside venue. The venue was not very crowded yet the noise level was terribly annoying. Nice to finally see a Publix in the area though.

[Laker14]

If one were interested in forming an opinion of their own, they could spend a couple of days visiting the pools, pickleball courts, and rec centers of various locations, from north to south.
I think that would give a pretty representative example. Why would someone from Chatham travel to Homestead, or Aviary to swim or use the rec center?

I'd be interested in their observations, but think I know what they'd find.

Younger folks south, older folks north. Generally speaking, but of course with exceptions.

[MrChip72]

Younger folks south, older folks north. Generally speaking, but of course with exceptions.

As someone living south of 44, the difference is pretty noticable compared to even LSL. Seems like quite a few people buying a few years before their full retirement in this area.

[Bogie Shooter]

Hubby and I have taken three trips south of 44. Once to Edna's to see Johnny Wild and two of back up singers during the height of the pandemic. Then we took a ride to take a walk on one of the walking paths that does not allow golf carts. That path was in full sun so it wasn't very pleasant. Recently we took a ride just to see how the area is coming along and to check out Sawgrass. I was not impressed with the Sawgrass inside venue. The venue was not very crowded yet the noise level was terribly annoying. Nice to finally see a Publix in the area though.

Another post another bash of 44 south, seems never an opportunity missed. Just sad…..

[DAVES]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.

Hum I had heard 3 times not 5. It does make me wonder. Do Villagers enjoy PACKING? We've been in the same home for going on 10 years. Is it me? Investigate and do it right the first time.

We were south, with the building of Fenny we are now ????? middle?????? There are no renters here. I would expect they no not add to value and some I'm sure are a pain for the owner of the property and people who live around them.

[asianthree]

Take a look at the NE corner of 466A and Morse Blvd. That pond has a gorgeous waterfall. It is not a bubbler by any means. There is also all new plantings north of 44, including that beautiful corner on Morse and 466A. Go south of 44 on Morse Blvd. and all you see are huge power lines on one side of that roadway. That infrastructure was there already and underground utilities was not done back then.

Did you forget the flowing pond into small fall of water at the front of Glenview? More impressive than 466 and Morse in my opinion. Benches to sit and watch, the ducks, especially with new ducklings, (mom scolding a duckling she has to retrieve for going over the fall into the next pond). We would pack a snack or small picnic sit and enjoy the view.
Now we walk the path at Lake O, have spirted dart games, enjoy the fire pit with friends, and watch those who brave taking out a canoe.


There are the hugh power lines are in Spanish Spring, and you don’t even have to look up to see them. You can play golf around them, while many house’s have them in their backyards, or in their direct view, or the homes that have a water tower in their back yard. Yet those homes sold to original owner, and then sold again to next homeowner, power lines and all.

Now people live near the turnpike, and yet they love their home, new friends, and location. Plenty of green space, prairie views, wide MMP to use, less driving next to a car.

We didn’t stay long in Mallory area, it’s great for my parents age group, but we really wanted more. I feel Safer to run, on path instead of street, with no worries of a golf cart, or car cruising next to me. Downside for our new house, it will take 8 minute drive for my daily 2 mile swim, than the 5 minutes I drive now. Hoping the space for retail just south of Brownwood stays a empty lot for long while. Happy to drive north and keep the southern area less congested.

[JMintzer]

As someone living south of 44, the difference is pretty noticable compared to even LSL. Seems like quite a few people buying a few years before their full retirement in this area.

Just as there are in homes north of 44...

We did it, and we know of at least a dozen other couples who have done the same thing... All in Osceola Hills and the in Villages along Hillsborough. A few off Moyer Loop...

There's no question that there are more houses available where they are building new homes. And newer buyers tend to be younger (in general).

BUT... Sadly, people leave TV. It's the "circle of life"... Those people are replaced by new, younger buyers (in general). Hence, the older areas will see a drop in the average age as the older folks "move on"... And the southern area will soon start to "age up", as their residents get older. Just as they did in the northern areas...

Regardless, who freakin' cares where anyone choses to live. We had specific reasons why we bought where we did and why we DID NOT buy in other areas. We found a great house, just north of 44, with great neighbors, and we're happy.

Will we ever move? Maybe... Who knows?

[JMintzer]

Another post another bash of 44 south, seems never an opportunity missed. Just sad…..

So, every post with something negative about LSL or SS is "bashing the north"? Just trying to be consistent...

[MrChip72]

So, every post with something negative about LSL or SS is "bashing the north"? Just trying to be consistent...


Who has bashed the North here? The North is good, south is good.

[George Page]

Interesting when people assume that Sawgrass is the nearest square to everyone south of 44. I live in DeLuna and Brownwood is the closest square 8 mins by golf cart. This is the case for many people living south of 44.

I'm not sure what amenities are "thinner", they're just different. Is there an equivalent to "Edna's on the green" in the North section that I don't know about? What about Pitch n putt and Putt n Play courses? I don't recall any of those in the North.

You are correct. The south has food trucks, up north we have restaurants. And the south has Pitch n putt & Putt n Play courses, up north we have golf courses.
That’s THINNER.

[KsJayhawkers]

Another thread that has turned into Northern villagers highlighting some possible negatives and ignoring the many positives of the South end of TV. :rolleyes:

And most of it deals with shopping. Please keep all of the shopping up north and the massive amount of traffic that goes with it. I’ll keep our preserves, wide walking/biking trails, and new facilities down south.

[Bilyclub]

I'm not sure what amenities are "thinner", they're just different. Is there an equivalent to "Edna's on the green" in the North section that I don't know about? What about Pitch n putt and Putt n Play courses? I don't recall any of those in the North.

Edna's was a cheap fix to satisfy residents down south who had only the Fenney Grill at the time. It turned out to be a great and unique spot.
You need to take a drive to the Putt n Play off of 42. It is far better that Fenney and a couple notches above the one at Sawgrass/Ezell.
The north has plenty of executive courses with real tee boxes which are over all better than hitting off carpet at the Pitch n Putts.

[RustyN]

It’s not that they are being sold to an age difference it’s simply that people have lived north longer. Without question the northern area has an older demographic. I have a YouTube channel and talk to people all over the villages and sometimes when I talk to people in the northern area they have never been to the southern area so they have no idea. A simple way to see it for yourself is to go to the Square in Spanish Springs then go to Sawgrass market, the new area and look at the age difference. It’s not a good thing or a bad thing. Another example is Pickle Ball. I’ve played all the way up north and I’ve played south, and there is definitely a difference in the age of people playing in the north and playing in the south. As people pass and move up north younger people obviously move in. There are not too many 90 year old folks buying homes versus 55 to 65. It’s just life.

[John Mayes]

Take a look at the NE corner of 466A and Morse Blvd. That pond has a gorgeous waterfall. It is not a bubbler by any means. There is also all new plantings north of 44, including that beautiful corner on Morse and 466A. Go south of 44 on Morse Blvd. and all you see are huge power lines on one side of that roadway. That infrastructure was there already and underground utilities was not done back then.


Just a couple of comments regarding your post…1) the plantings in the common landscaping is changed out four times per year…in all of The Villages. I’ve noticed that the changeout usually starts in the north and goes south. 2) you know those power lines don’t just magically start south of 44..right? They actually continue north of 44, north of 466A and north of 466.

[midiwiz]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH


yes very much so, the properties on the north end aren't as appealing to the younger crowd. Much of the younger crowd has yet to reach 55, which is fine you only need 80% of the population to be over 55 to qualify and a 55+ community. A large percentage of the population also still works, so the idea that this is a retirement community is far fetched, while I do realize they market it as that especially in the north east, it isn't. In fact a large portion of people we have met that are new are south of 44 and are anywhere from 45 to 52 granted there are some exceptions to that but for the most part (including us) are much younger than who we run into.

[JMintzer]

Who has bashed the North here? The North is good, south is good.

"Too much traffic"
"Houses too old"
"Only old people up there"
"No one is friendly to new people"
"No walking Paths"
You have to drive on Morse North of 466"

Shall I continue?

But I do agree with your second point... If you like where you live, great!

[fdpaq0580]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

Doesn't matter! North, center or south, it is all good. Different, but good.

[llaran]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.

When we moved in in 2006 it was true people sold and moved at least 3 times; the reason was the prices going up so fast that your house doubled in price in a year or less. That's not been the case in the past few years.

[KeithRiz]

99% of all statistics are useless 😆

[KeithRiz]

Love your YouTube channel Rusty.

[billethkid]

yes very much so, the properties on the north end aren't as appealing to the younger crowd. Much of the younger crowd has yet to reach 55, which is fine you only need 80% of the population to be over 55 to qualify and a 55+ community. A large percentage of the population also still works, so the idea that this is a retirement community is far fetched, while I do realize they market it as that especially in the north east, it isn't. In fact a large portion of people we have met that are new are south of 44 and are anywhere from 45 to 52 granted there are some exceptions to that but for the most part (including us) are much younger than who we run into.

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[bsloan1960]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.

I've heard this as well. I assume most folks are on a budget, which of course varies person to person. But with the expense of moving, including paying movers multiple times as well as closing costs multiple times- isn't this practice a wasteful financial decision???

[jimjamuser]

For what it's worth, I've heard that the average Villager, once here, moves five more times within The Villages.

We're "north". On our block we have all age ranges from 55 to 85. A fair number of renters who seem to trend younger than those who own the homes they live in.
We bought in the prehistoric area and NEVER even thought about moving. The more important decision is do you want to be a snowbird or are you going to stay through the summer. The summer is SUPERHOT and predicted to get hotter for the next 30 years. If you are younger like say 55 you may NOT be affected by HEAT (and Florida HEAT is different than northern heat in the summer (due to humidity). But, when you are 70, it could be a different story - the HEAT might affect you.
.........Another BIG problem is that married couples may end up disagreeing on the wisdom of coming to Fl. I have seen that a lot. And don't even think that your kids will want to come here every year.......VERY FEW do. And NEVER, never BUY right away. Rent for about one year.
........Hope that helped.

[jimjamuser]

Edna's was a cheap fix to satisfy residents down south who had only the Fenney Grill at the time. It turned out to be a great and unique spot.
You need to take a drive to the Putt n Play off of 42. It is far better that Fenney and a couple notches above the one at Sawgrass/Ezell.
The north has plenty of executive courses with real tee boxes which are over all better than hitting off carpet at the Pitch n Putts.
That assumes that every NEW resident is a golfer or wants to become one. Many people who live in the Villages NEVER touch a golf club. there are plenty of other things to do.

[asianthree]

I've heard this as well. I assume most folks are on a budget, which of course varies person to person. But with the expense of moving, including paying movers multiple times as well as closing costs multiple times- isn't this practice a wasteful financial decision???

There are many military who have retired to TV. Experienced on multiple moves, with very little effort. We are building our fourth home in TV. I can pack, load, and move in 48 hours. Other than a uhaul for $50, each house even with closing costs pays for the next house, and then some.

Not everyone is dependent on others to change residents. First house move, $250 for movers, 2nd house, $350. Our pod coming from one our homes up north. $1831, will be unloaded in less than 48 hours and picked up.

This next move with movers from current house, for big stuff $700. I pack everything myself, move breakable, clothes, and light furniture. Movers will load heavy furniture in 2 hours our house will be close to moved in. We have moved so many times, my check list is laminated, boxes stored in garage, with pre written list attached.

Some are organized, some not so much. After moving to this house, boxes will be flattened and stored above garage, along with laminated moving list, because one never knows when the next perfect house will come along:pepper2:

[Fastskiguy]

There are many military who have retired to TV. Experienced on multiple moves, with very little effort. We are building our fourth home in TV. I can pack, load, and move in 48 hours. Other than a uhaul for $50, each house even with closing costs pays for the next house, and then some.

Not everyone is dependent on others to change residents. First house move, $250 for movers, 2nd house, $350. Our pod coming from one our homes up north. $1831, will be unloaded in less than 48 hours and picked up.

This next move with movers from current house, for big stuff $700. I pack everything myself, move breakable, clothes, and light furniture. Movers will load heavy furniture in 2 hours our house will be close to moved in. We have moved so many times, my check list is laminated, boxes stored in garage, with pre written list attached.

Some are organized, some not so much. After moving to this house, boxes will be flattened and stored above garage, along with laminated moving list, because one never knows when the next perfect house will come along:pepper2:

It sounds like fun actually. How many times have you moved?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We love our neighborhood. I can easily imagine us staying here for another 10 years. However - I can also imagine our house being torn down and replaced with something a little newer - on the same property. I can't imagine being south of 466A, or north of El Camino Real. I can imagine living around Bailey Trail, west of Buena Vista. Or the de La Vista villages north of 466 off Morse. But I'm very happy for now in the Historic section.

[JMintzer]

When we moved in in 2006 it was true people sold and moved at least 3 times; the reason was the prices going up so fast that your house doubled in price in a year or less. That's not been the case in the past few years.

No, most people moved because they either bough a house that proved to be:

Too Big
Too Small

Or they:

Found a house they liked better
Had a pool they no longer wanted
Didn't have a pool and they wanted one...

And you must have missed the HUGE increase in prices, starting in 2020, thru most of 2022...

[Laker14]

Edna's was a cheap fix to satisfy residents down south who had only the Fenney Grill at the time. It turned out to be a great and unique spot.
You need to take a drive to the Putt n Play off of 42. It is far better that Fenney and a couple notches above the one at Sawgrass/Ezell.
The north has plenty of executive courses with real tee boxes which are over all better than hitting off carpet at the Pitch n Putts.

That assumes that every NEW resident is a golfer or wants to become one. Many people who live in the Villages NEVER touch a golf club. there are plenty of other things to do.

No it doesn't. It doesn't assume anything. Billyclub's post expresses an opinion or two about existing facilities. It makes no assumptions about what "every NEW villager" does or wants.

[Laker14]

When we moved in in 2006 it was true people sold and moved at least 3 times; the reason was the prices going up so fast that your house doubled in price in a year or less. That's not been the case in the past few years.

Really? We bought a pre-owned home in 2021, which was built in 2006.

Original sales price was $287,200 in 2006.

Our purchase price 15 years later was 368,000.

Over a 15 year period the sales price increased a total of $81,000, or 28.2%....

Where did you get the idea that homes "doubled in price" in a year or less? And that this happened enough times to account for people moving 2, or 3, or 4 times?

I think we were lucky in that we secured our deal just before the prices went crazy in the winter/spring of '21, but even at the highest, most optimistic appraisal of the the increase from the time we bought to the apogee of prices, maybe in the following winter, would have been 25% -30% in that year (and if that's even realistic it was a very brief period).

[coffeebean]

Just a couple of comments regarding your post…1) the plantings in the common landscaping is changed out four times per year…in all of The Villages. I’ve noticed that the changeout usually starts in the north and goes south. 2) you know those power lines don’t just magically start south of 44..right? They actually continue north of 44, north of 466A and north of 466.

There are no power lines north of 44 on Morse Blvd. I know there are power lines in the north, just not on Morse Blvd. Morse Blvd. has a completely different feel south of 44.

[JMintzer]

There are no power lines north of 44 on Morse Blvd. I know there are power lines in the north, just not on Morse Blvd. Morse Blvd. has a completely different feel south of 44.

Yes there are. But they're waaay up above 466 and just below Spanish Springs...

They cross thru the golf course between San Marino Dr and Rio Grande Ave...

[Lottoguy]

There is a Putt & Play in the north at the First Responders Recreation Center. This area also has the only two bowling alleys, polo field, hospital, The Sharon, and the Savannah Center. Eventually the southern area will get more, it just takes time.

[Hardlyworking]

There are no power lines north of 44 on Morse Blvd. I know there are power lines in the north, just not on Morse Blvd. Morse Blvd. has a completely different feel south of 44.

Just to the east of Morse are power lines. Okeechobee GC is right underneath them.

[BayLady57]

Hello. I have been reading about the newer areas of the Villages (southern areas) being sold to younger residents while the northern areas are mostly resales to older residents. Is this true or pretty common? Thank you. MarvinH

My husband and I ages 65 & 70 purchased a new courtyard villa in the Levi & Boaz villa neighborhood of St. Johns 8 months ago and are full timers. There are 160 homes in our sort of secluded new neighborhood, so most of the neighbors moved in at the same time and as a result we have have gotten to know pretty much everyone in the neighborhood. We have neighbors in the age ranges from late 40s into their 70s, single, married, some still working, so it is a nice mix demographic. Why we chose the south instead of the north the1st reason is we wanted to purchase a 3 BR courtyard villa with a straight driveway and a golf cart garage which these are nearly impossible to find in the northern sections of The Villages. The 2nd reason is although we feel the entire Villages is a beautiful community, we prefer the more rural beauty of where we live and have no issue driving by car to the north for shopping, restaurants, and the other amenities there which honestly is not too often. We are a 15 minute golf cart ride to both Brownwood and Sawgrass Grove where we do go fairly often and enjoy the cart ride. We are a 10 minute cart ride to the Okahumka RC, Waterlily RC, and a 5 minute bike ride to Everglades RC where use the sports pool and participate in other activities there. Also we are members of several clubs that meet at the Rohan RC which we can also easily get there in 20 minutes by golf cart.

From model home to accessibility to the things most important to you are very unique preferences from one person to another. So figure out those preferences first because age of neighbors will change as time goes on because as many others have already said many people do move several times during the time span they live in TV.

[JMintzer]

My husband and I ages 65 & 70 purchased a new courtyard villa in the Levi & Boaz villa neighborhood of St. Johns 8 months ago and are full timers. There are 160 homes in our sort of secluded new neighborhood, so most of the neighbors moved in at the same time and as a result we have have gotten to know pretty much everyone in the neighborhood. We have neighbors in the age ranges from late 40s into their 70s, single, married, some still working, so it is a nice mix demographic. Why we chose the south instead of the north the1st reason is we wanted to purchase a 3 BR courtyard villa with a straight driveway and a golf cart garage which these are nearly impossible to find in the northern sections of The Villages. The 2nd reason is although we feel the entire Villages is a beautiful community, we prefer the more rural beauty of where we live and have no issue driving by car to the north for shopping, restaurants, and the other amenities there which honestly is not too often. We are a 15 minute golf cart ride to both Brownwood and Sawgrass Grove where we do go fairly often and enjoy the cart ride. We are a 10 minute cart ride to the Okahumka RC, Waterlily RC, and a 5 minute bike ride to Everglades RC where use the sports pool and participate in other activities there. Also we are members of several clubs that meet at the Rohan RC which we can also easily get there in 20 minutes by golf cart.

From model home to accessibility to the things most important to you are very unique preferences from one person to another. So figure out those preferences first because age of neighbors will change as time goes on because as many others have already said many people do move several times during the time span they live in TV.

I'm sorry... But logic and reason have no place in this thread! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

[JMintzer]

Just to the east of Morse are power lines. Okeechobee GC is right underneath them.

And they cut thru Pine Hills and Pine Ridge and the eastern part of Osceola Hills...

Which is why the boss didn't want to buy a home in those areas...

Everyone has their own reason to live where they live. All of them are valid...