Mars Attacks! Canada had balloon or something shot down.

[Taltarzac725]

What is going on of late with the balloons? And where are they lifting off from?

[ThirdOfFive]

What is going on of late with the balloons? And where are they lifting off from?
Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.

[Taltarzac725]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.

I am just very curious from where these objects are taking off? Submarine? Aircraft carrier? Far off lands? Would not other objects notice them flying for an extended period? I mean US and allied spy satellites.

[rustyp]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?

[ThirdOfFive]

I am just very curious from where these objects are taking off? Submarine? Aircraft carrier? Far off lands? Would not other objects notice them flying for an extended period? I mean US and allied spy satellites.
No idea. But the prevailing wind would carry them from west to east. Japan launched about 9,000 balloons with bombs attached to them in WWII (retaliation for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo). Only a very few out of 9,000 ever did any damage, and that was some isolated forest fires. A couple of kids were killed after they found one and tried to pull it out of the woods. But that was all, as I understand it.

Wherever they're coming from, once they're launched they're going to go in a generally westerly direction but aside from that, I doubt they're steerable. The one that hit Dead Horse on the north slope of Alaska may have have been intended for Los Angeles, for all we know.

Coming from North Korea? Maybe Kim Jong-un's nose is out of joint because he's not been in the news for awhile. I can see him pulling such a stunt. China? Seems pretty primitive compared to what they're capable of.

[Taltarzac725]

No idea. But the prevailing wind would carry them from west to east. Japan launched about 9,000 balloons with bombs attached to them in WWII (retaliation for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo). Only a very few out of 9,000 ever did any damage, and that was some isolated forest fires. A couple of kids were killed after they found one and tried to pull it out of the woods. But that was all, as I understand it.

Wherever they're coming from, once they're launched they're going to go in a generally westerly direction but aside from that, I doubt they're steerable. The one that hit Dead Horse on the north slope of Alaska may have have been intended for Los Angeles, for all we know.

Coming from North Korea? Maybe Kim Jong-un's nose is out of joint because he's not been in the news for awhile. I can see him pulling such a stunt. China? Seems pretty primitive compared to what they're capable of.

That was a huge operation. In 1945, a Japanese Balloon Bomb Killed Six Americans, Five of Them Children, in Oregon | History|
Smithsonian Magazine (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1945-japanese-balloon-bomb-killed-six-americansfive-them-children-oregon-180972259/)

[Altavia]

Turkey drop

[Taltarzac725]

Turkey drop

That was a hilarious episode of WKRP in Cincinnati .

[Koapaka]

That was a hilarious episode of WKRP in Cincinnati .

Oh the HUMANITY!

[manaboutown]

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[Taltarzac725]

Mars Attacks is a very entertaining film.

[MorTech]

Use to be religion was the opiate of the masses but now it is mass media fear porn.

Virus - Climate - Balloon - Aliens - Russia - MAGA - We.Are.All.Going.To.DIE !!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?

The one that was shot down off the coast of South Carolina was flying at 70,000 feet, so not a Piper Cub could not have shot it down.
A section of what the ballon was carrying was recovered and it is the size of a bus. That that section came from a piece that is the size of a commercial jet.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

No idea. But the prevailing wind would carry them from west to east. Japan launched about 9,000 balloons with bombs attached to them in WWII (retaliation for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo). Only a very few out of 9,000 ever did any damage, and that was some isolated forest fires. A couple of kids were killed after they found one and tried to pull it out of the woods. But that was all, as I understand it.

Wherever they're coming from, once they're launched they're going to go in a generally westerly direction but aside from that, I doubt they're steerable. The one that hit Dead Horse on the north slope of Alaska may have have been intended for Los Angeles, for all we know.

Coming from North Korea? Maybe Kim Jong-un's nose is out of joint because he's not been in the news for awhile. I can see him pulling such a stunt. China? Seems pretty primitive compared to what they're capable of.

They are not only steerable but have the ability to be navigated remotely. These are not balloons that were purchased at Disney World. They fly at 70,000 feet and carry a device the size of a commercial jet.

[jimbomaybe]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.

Don't kid yourself about the Chinese , they are a very real geopolitical/economic presence backed by a very modern military establishment

[Priebehouse]

...for the balloon festival at Polo Grounds. :wave:

[mike234]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?
yes. I have the same question. the first balloon cruised over Canada, but they did zero....and now they get the U.S. to shoot another one down over their airspace?

[Two Bills]

yes. I have the same question. the first balloon cruised over Canada, but they did zero....and now they get the U.S. to shoot another one down over their airspace?

It came in over Alaska first, and was allowed to travel on.
Maybe the USAF need the target practice more than the RCAF!:icon_wink:

[Causey]

Our government let the first balloon (that we were told about) travel all the way across the continent unmolested. When it became apparent that "most Americans" didn't like it, the government decided to shoot the next couple of balloons down pretty quickly. Seems to me, all it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level.

[MandoMan]

What is going on of late with the balloons? And where are they lifting off from?

I didn’t see that they were balloons. Just the first big one. Perhaps they were UFOs. Or flying cars driven by witches or wizards from Harry Potter.

[Dantes]

The Chinese have succeeded if people believe they have 19th century technology They are the world superpower.In my opinion some people turn their heads for the love of money over love of country. Lets have hearings on this Issue just like Tick Tock and years later nothing
Just my opinion

[PugMom]

the fact is none of us will ever know how many are up there, & what exactly they are doing. a few days ago, i predicted in another thread we would find more, & let's see what happens in the coming weeks :crap2:

[airstreamingypsy]

Our government let the first balloon (that we were told about) travel all the way across the continent unmolested. When it became apparent that "most Americans" didn't like it, the government decided to shoot the next couple of balloons down pretty quickly. Seems to me, all it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level.

Seems to me, you hang on Tucker's every lying word. If the US had shot it down, over the US and one person on the ground died, you would write, "All it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level."

[Tvflguy]

My birthday was yesterday. One of the dollar store balloons slipped out of my wife’s car coming into the house. She said an F12 got it about 25 seconds later. Looks as if they have a hair-trigger. But in their defense the balloon was no doubt made in China.

[oneclickplus]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?

Funny post of the day.

[airstreamingypsy]

What is going on of late with the balloons? And where are they lifting off from?

As the daughter of two fighter pilots, I have to say I'm happy for the F-22 pilots, who got to shoot the objects down. What a thrill for them.

[trinow]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.

China is one of the most aggressive countries in the world and certainly has the technology to be up to no good

[dougawhite]

The first balloon obviously came from Oz as it definitely was trying to land in Kansas.

The Chinese are making these balloons out of all the recycled plastic we've sent to them over the years. They're just send it all back.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Our government let the first balloon (that we were told about) travel all the way across the continent unmolested. When it became apparent that "most Americans" didn't like it, the government decided to shoot the next couple of balloons down pretty quickly. Seems to me, all it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level.

Seems they were worried about it causing damage or harm if shot down over land. It was carrying a device the size of passenger jet plane, so it could certainly have caused damage and why they waited until it coasted over the ocean.

Guess we know where your politics stand.

[Sgt Ed]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century. Today, Sunday, it was just announced that the balloon shot down past Myrtle Beach had the capacity to photo and send real time photos to whoever was on the receiving end. Also it is revealed that it had western made parts in its construction.
That brings up something else, just what was that cylinder object shot down over Canada? There was no balloon, altitude 40000 feet. Not an orbit. What was powering it and how was it flying. Odd to say the least!
BTW weather balloon weights are controlled by international laws. I believe the max is 12 pounds. The one we shot down was 1700 lbs.
We need to wake up folks

[Ptmckiou]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?

Pilots stated it was a “cylindrical object” with no apparent propulsion system. Also, pilots stated it messed with their electronics of the plane.

NORAD is a joint effort of US and Canada, so when NORAD announces something both countries scramble planes together.

[fdpaq0580]

Our government let the first balloon (that we were told about) travel all the way across the continent unmolested. When it became apparent that "most Americans" didn't like it, the government decided to shoot the next couple of balloons down pretty quickly. Seems to me, all it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level.

"A mind is a terrible thing to waste."

[ron32162]

Our satellites can take pictures anywhere on earth that can show the color of someones eyes Yet THEY don't know what they shot down come on man give me a break

[Bob45]

What is going on of late with the balloons? And where are they lifting off from?

FYI Some amateur radio operators send up and track balloons that travel the globe as part of the hobby. If you're interested you can see how many are up there and follow them on aprs.fi - live APRS map (http://www.aprs.fi) Now I wonder if they will start shooting them down.

Bob N8ZCA

[rustyp]

Pilots stated it was a “cylindrical object” with no apparent propulsion system. Also, pilots stated it messed with their electronics of the plane.

NORAD is a joint effort of US and Canada, so when NORAD announces something both countries scramble planes together.

Magnetic levitation ?

96876

[Marine1974]

China has only 12 and 1/2 % renewable clean water . Their farming land is polluted. Fighting a war logistically supplying water is a problem for them .

[Worldseries27]

no idea. But the prevailing wind would carry them from west to east. Japan launched about 9,000 balloons with bombs attached to them in wwii (retaliation for the doolittle raid on tokyo). Only a very few out of 9,000 ever did any damage, and that was some isolated forest fires. A couple of kids were killed after they found one and tried to pull it out of the woods. But that was all, as i understand it.

Wherever they're coming from, once they're launched they're going to go in a generally westerly direction but aside from that, i doubt they're steerable. The one that hit dead horse on the north slope of alaska may have have been intended for los angeles, for all we know.

Coming from north korea? Maybe kim jong-un's nose is out of joint because he's not been in the news for awhile. I can see him pulling such a stunt. China? Seems pretty primitive compared to what they're capable of.
the chinese by using simplistic technology, balloons, capable of flying loads equivalent to 3 city busses are lulling us into a state of complacency where we in the future think " oh it's just another balloon"
no we are being set up for the day china wants to put mini nukes aboard and launch with gps precision these weapons to take out our icbm silos by detonating over the silos roofs and our nuclear bomber bases. They need very little fuel. Gravity and fins attached to the warheads will put them right on target over some apex point 60k feet above their targets effectively destroying a minimum of one third of our nuclear triad in seconds. Time to wake up and see the first strike capabilities of the balloons

[rustyp]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?

Funny post of the day.
News update - The Canadian piper club could not be launched because the Canadian aircraft carrier is grounded at drydock. The carrier at present is having hull boards replaced due to dry rot.

[Pres1939]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.


You are a very trusting soul. You can bet the Chinese did not send these balloons to check the weather!

[Pres1939]

No idea. But the prevailing wind would carry them from west to east. Japan launched about 9,000 balloons with bombs attached to them in WWII (retaliation for the Doolittle raid on Tokyo). Only a very few out of 9,000 ever did any damage, and that was some isolated forest fires. A couple of kids were killed after they found one and tried to pull it out of the woods. But that was all, as I understand it.

Wherever they're coming from, once they're launched they're going to go in a generally westerly direction but aside from that, I doubt they're steerable. The one that hit Dead Horse on the north slope of Alaska may have have been intended for Los Angeles, for all we know.

Coming from North Korea? Maybe Kim Jong-un's nose is out of joint because he's not been in the news for awhile. I can see him pulling such a stunt. China? Seems pretty primitive compared to what they're capable of.

Please note that there is nothing primative about sending equipment the size of 3 school buses (as reported) into and across our country. And, YES, they were shown to be steerable from their flight paths.
Obviously, China is willing to risk an international incident to gather the information the equipment is designed to retrieve. You can be certain they were forwarding the data retrieved via their satellites in real time as they traveled. This is not 19th century technology.
Demand that we get the truth about these and how we handled their detection. If not.....

[Annie66]

Turkey drop

Now that is one I can believe.:BigApplause::BigApplause:

[ILLINOIS RAY]

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Enough with the quotes added after every comment. It is getting very tired and old

[Sgt Ed]

Todays news they shot down another one over Lake Huron and China says they have been flying them over the US 10 times last year.

[Nucky]

Who thinks that this is not just a distraction while something bigger and worse is looming?

Weather Balloon? B.S.

If our government did this to any of the suspected culprits would it get a pass like it does here?

[OhioBuckeye]

I agree, & is this just the start of something? We’re living in a messed up world. My question is how or who got us into this mess?

[dougjb]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

[JD Tremor]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!


Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

Because that seems to be working so well over the past couple years..........

[Taltarzac725]

I am not so sure that the experts have been doing such a good job if China has been using these balloons or other devices to gather information by avoiding satellite detection.

There are people on TOTV who would be knowledgeable in these various areas.


OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

[tvbound]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

Agreed.

Not to even point out the height of flaming hypocrisy, when many of those whining about how long it took to shoot down the first one, are now accusing us of the last three as being..."trigger-happy."

I mean...really?!

[PugMom]

Who thinks that this is not just a distraction while something bigger and worse is looming?

Weather Balloon? B.S.

If our government did this to any of the suspected culprits would it get a pass like it does here?

you mean a massive red herring?? very possible, distraction is a powerful tool

[rustyp]

Agreed.

Not to even point out the height of flaming hypocrisy, when many of those whining about how long it took to shoot down the first one, are now accusing us of the last three as being..."trigger-happy."

I mean...really?!

Perhaps their hypocrisy comes in two colors.

[Byte1]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.

Maybe they "came of age in the 19th century" but they have many nuclear ballistic submarines, fighter aircraft and aircraft carrier and a billion soldiers they can bring on line to fight any first world military. They are far more dangerous than the Russians or Koreans or Iranians.

[tvbound]

Perhaps their hypocrisy comes in two colors.

Without a doubt - you've nailed it.

[Caymus]

The balloon spotting technology is getting better.

https://youtu.be/k8qjxT1iIAM

[Nucky]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

Dog Poop, Linedancers, Chair Stealers, White Crosses, No Good! Balloons flighting willy-nilly over our beautiful country need to be in the hands of decision-makers, I'll leave that there.

What if the balloon was flying over your Village or Pool or the Home of your children or grandchildren? Wouldn't you want some action quickly then?

The Sky isn't falling yet there Orson Wells, maybe soon though. :plane:

[jimjamuser]

Dunno. But I'm not buying into the wild speculation about Chinese spy satellites. I doubt we have anything to fear from a technology that came of age in the 19th century.
The way I understand it is, they probably won't be used to blow us up, but they could radio back what our weaknesses are to being blown up at a later time. They say that the Asian mindset IS to think ahead 1000 years.

[jimjamuser]

MEREDITH DELISO
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 6:39 PM EST
A high-altitude object tracked over northern Canada has been shot down over the Yukon, officials said.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he ordered the takedown of "an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace."

"Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object," he tweeted.

Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage, Trudeau said.


A US F 22 shot it down ? What's wrong with this picture ? Could not the Canadian piper cub handle this ?
The Mounties always get their balloon or cylindrical mystery object the size of a car.

[jimjamuser]

Mars Attacks is a very entertaining film.
Ack, ack, ack..........do NOT run, we are peaceful.......ack, ack, ack.

[jimjamuser]

yes. I have the same question. the first balloon cruised over Canada, but they did zero....and now they get the U.S. to shoot another one down over their airspace?
The Mounties were too busy with our northern border crossings.

[jimjamuser]

Our government let the first balloon (that we were told about) travel all the way across the continent unmolested. When it became apparent that "most Americans" didn't like it, the government decided to shoot the next couple of balloons down pretty quickly. Seems to me, all it proves is the government didn't know what to do, we have no leadership skills at all, at the leadership level.
Those "wascally wabbits" leadership clowns.

[rustyp]

Agreed.

Not to even point out the height of flaming hypocrisy, when many of those whining about how long it took to shoot down the first one, are now accusing us of the last three as being..."trigger-happy."

I mean...really?!

Deja vu all over again. I had a vivid dream last night I was reliving August 2nd and 4th 1964 a second time.

[jimjamuser]

As the daughter of two fighter pilots, I have to say I'm happy for the F-22 pilots, who got to shoot the objects down. What a thrill for them.
.......Ballooning into Los Angeles
...bringing in a couple of keys
.........Don't touch my bags
.....if you please
......Mister F-22 fighter man (person)

[Marmaduke]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?
Do you mean like EXPERT Pete Buttigieg?

[rustyp]

OH...the sky is fallng...the sky is falling!

Why not just leave it up to our experts? They have the experience and means of dealing with this. As for me, all I can do is wring my hands and say....[the following political stuff has been self deleted].

It's amazing how many arm chair generals we have here on this thread...many of whom have difficulties operating a motor vehicle without causing major alarm among our neighbors.

Why not just sit back and let those who are paid for this work...do their job?

Do you mean like EXPERT Pete Buttigieg?

How about including 2 million + people that work in the Dept Of Defense ?

[Bay Kid]

And now they want us to believe they might be aliens.

[OhioBuckeye]

We did supposedly hired an expert to take care of these things, guess who that is?