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DALEPQ
02-13-2023, 11:31 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
PugMom
02-13-2023, 11:35 AM
it stank. most of it was tough to understand, and just below-par in terms of entertainment quality. the ads were much better, lol
gatorbill1
02-13-2023, 11:38 AM
Not our type of entertainment, but the younger generation loved it
mike234
02-13-2023, 11:40 AM
Not our type of entertainment, but the younger generation loved it
what did the people dancing in the white costumes, represent? was there some sort of message?
PugMom
02-13-2023, 11:42 AM
in rianna's act, what were the dancers dressed up in fuzzy suits supposed to be? with the dark sunglasses, it made them appear as snowmen to me, but one guy thought they were Klan outfits! yeah,...no
PugMom
02-13-2023, 11:43 AM
you read my mind Mike ;)
Byte1
02-13-2023, 12:02 PM
Once again, the half time show was vulgar. Example: The lead singer, pantomimed licking her hand and rubbing her privates. She also grabbed her posterior and did a modified "twerk?" Maybe we are ALL getting old, but surely folks do not think that a "show" like that is appropriate for the whole family. Sometimes, I think that the most popular artists(?) today would not be given a second notice if they did not have a video of them performing.
Velvet
02-13-2023, 12:14 PM
What I saw, as I turned the sound off since I don’t like that music, was these people dressed in space uniforms, standing on construction platforms. One was dressed in a red space outfit (I think she chose the Chiefs too) with a sneer on her face. I guess she was not happy with the half time score. It looked like something cheap thrown together last minute. With such a large audience you’d really think they could do better.
Taltarzac725
02-13-2023, 12:42 PM
I skipped it. Usually change the channel at halftime of the Superbowls.
manaboutown
02-13-2023, 12:49 PM
I DVRed the game and skipped through the half time show. The glimpses I saw of it as I fast forwarded looked trashy. A fuzzy red blimp jumping around and a bunch of fuzzy white blimps moving en masse.
Two Bills
02-13-2023, 01:00 PM
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Nucky
02-13-2023, 01:05 PM
Horrendous! That's the Half-Time Show and one of these posts. Guess which one. Even over the line for me!
Two Bills
02-13-2023, 01:16 PM
Horrendous! That's the Half-Time Show and one of these posts. Guess which one. Even over the line for me!
Your right.
Deleted.
saratogaman
02-13-2023, 01:17 PM
Sound control person let the band drown out the singer -- happens too often with female singers. Makes lyrics indecipherable.
starflyte1
02-13-2023, 02:46 PM
The last thing I want to see is a pregnant woman dressed in red, twerking, much less all the others in white twerking and making other lewd motions. Discussing!
Velvet
02-13-2023, 03:22 PM
Ah, must be in the eyes of the beholder - she was twerking? I thought she had bedbugs or something and was just scratching. How could you tell in that outfit? I was on the phone the whole time so maybe I missed something.
tophcfa
02-13-2023, 03:30 PM
Pulled the cover off the pool and swam a half mile equivalent on the super swim pro and still had time for a quick shower and a beer before the second half started. Wasn’t going to waste a second of my time watching that garbage. Good game though.
Tvflguy
02-13-2023, 04:12 PM
We watched the SB on DVR, about a 15 min buffer. Watched up to halftime and about 2 min of her performance. Not for us so fast forwarded up to live. Perfect as she was just about done.
Then back to the SB avoiding in our opinion, too flashy, too any special effects, dumb dancing, and lip synch.
I guess my hope for Benny Goodman orchestra or Pat Boone or guy Lombardo is out of the question for next year’s SB…
OrangeBlossomBaby
02-13-2023, 04:28 PM
1. Yes, she was twerking. She kinda made that move famous a few years ago. It's an extension of the Mapouka dance, a modern dance of the Ivory Coast in West Africa from the 1990's.
2. You can't understand her because she's Barbadian and has a very thick accent.
3. The largest generation demographic of NFL fans aren't old enough to have one foot in their grave yet. This is their dance music. Just like I never understood the point of the Watusi, you don't have to understand the point of twerking.
4. Yes, she's pregnant. It's amazing what pregnant women are capable of doing these days. Back when you were in your 30's, pregnant women stayed home, vacuumed the floors, had their husband do all the heavy lifting, had the milk man deliver the gallon of milk, didn't buy pampers because they were washing cloth diapers themselves, and their husbands actually earned enough money that the wives didn't have to work to support the family. And so they weren't allowed to. They also weren't allowed to have a credit card in their own name. Dancing while pregnant was scandalous, and probably considered dangerous. Women also smoked and drank while pregnant because they weren't informed yet that both of those things were unhealthy to their unborn child.
5. Rhianna is also known for celebrating her sexuality. It's not particularly to my taste but I don't fault her for sharing her enthusiasm.
6. She was fully dressed from chin to toes, and those white outfits are hip-hop outfits. Considering that Rhianna is a Barbadian hip-hop performer - it makes sense. I don't know how any of them were able to handle all that costuming, it was in the 70's yesterday. I would've been sweating bullets.
5. I'm not much of a Rhianna fan, but I do like a couple of her songs. They're great for exercising. And twerking. Which is actually fun, and I'll continue doing until I have to worry about breaking a hip in the process. By that time, some other music genre will show up on the charts and I'll whine that it's horrible and vulgar.
npwalters
02-13-2023, 04:59 PM
1. Yes, she was twerking. She kinda made that move famous a few years ago. It's an extension of the Mapouka dance, a modern dance of the Ivory Coast in West Africa from the 1990's.
2. You can't understand her because she's Barbadian and has a very thick accent.
3. The largest generation demographic of NFL fans aren't old enough to have one foot in their grave yet. This is their dance music. Just like I never understood the point of the Watusi, you don't have to understand the point of twerking.
4. Yes, she's pregnant. It's amazing what pregnant women are capable of doing these days. Back when you were in your 30's, pregnant women stayed home, vacuumed the floors, had their husband do all the heavy lifting, had the milk man deliver the gallon of milk, didn't buy pampers because they were washing cloth diapers themselves, and their husbands actually earned enough money that the wives didn't have to work to support the family. And so they weren't allowed to. They also weren't allowed to have a credit card in their own name. Dancing while pregnant was scandalous, and probably considered dangerous. Women also smoked and drank while pregnant because they weren't informed yet that both of those things were unhealthy to their unborn child.
5. Rhianna is also known for celebrating her sexuality. It's not particularly to my taste but I don't fault her for sharing her enthusiasm.
6. She was fully dressed from chin to toes, and those white outfits are hip-hop outfits. Considering that Rhianna is a Barbadian hip-hop performer - it makes sense. I don't know how any of them were able to handle all that costuming, it was in the 70's yesterday. I would've been sweating bullets.
5. I'm not much of a Rhianna fan, but I do like a couple of her songs. They're great for exercising. And twerking. Which is actually fun, and I'll continue doing until I have to worry about breaking a hip in the process. By that time, some other music genre will show up on the charts and I'll whine that it's horrible and vulgar.
The entire performance was lip synced so the comment about the thick accent - not buying it. She definitely did not make "twerking" famous. That trashy move has been done for many years by many people.
Hape2Bhr
02-13-2023, 05:04 PM
I saw a headline online that Rihanna supposedly was not getting paid for her halftime performance. Not sure if it was true, but that show was awful.
The cheering(?) during her show sounded like canned cheers to me. There are not too many teenagers who can afford a SB ticket.
I've noticed Adele speaks with quite an accent, yet I have no trouble understanding her singing.
K Paul Johnson
02-13-2023, 05:12 PM
I'm not into her music, but was looking forward to the show/spectacle. However, other than the intro with the different hanging levels, it was just boring and crude. One of the worst SB halftime shows I remember.
tvbound
02-13-2023, 05:35 PM
Not our type of entertainment, but the younger generation loved it
Ditto here, as her music isn't on our 'must hear' list. To be honest though, music to me has been on a long/slow down-slide - since The Monkees broke up. LOL
Doing a modicum of research prior to the SB, I admit to being surprised at how popular she is, how long its been since she performed live (7 years) and besides being a talented singer/songwriter - she's also a savvy businesswoman (net worth est. $1.7Billion).
I can't also help but wonder, how many critics already had their minds made up and comments mentally prepared, once it was announced who was performing...and long before her actual half-time act?
Taltarzac725
02-13-2023, 06:07 PM
Some of the Saturday Night Live musical quest appearances can also be risqué to rather vulgar/crude.
It is a trend. With some of those I also just fast forward as I usually tape those.
Some of Elvis' moves were also rather challenging for his fans' parents and grandparents. Super Bowl XXIII halftime show - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXIII_halftime_show)
Super Bowl XXIII - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXIII)
Number 10 GI
02-13-2023, 06:15 PM
I watched a couple minutes of the show and found out it was as trashy tasteless as I thought it would be. Went on the internet and watched some videos until the game started again.
Excellent game though, one of the better Super Bowl games.
manaboutown
02-13-2023, 06:24 PM
Frankly I had never heard of Rihanna before I did from a lady friend a week prior to SB. I was not told she was a Bajan. That fact came as a shock to me when I read it in this thread. I was in Barbados when President Reagan intervened when armed groups of Cubans were trying to take over Grenada. My wife and I had flown into Barbados one or two nights before it started. They had turned the lights on at the airport so our plane could land then turned them off. The next day US military cargo transports were flying into the airport all day long one after another. We drove out to the airport to see what was going on. Helicopters were being unloaded. The US main stream media was there. Some of them were relentlessly hassling an airman in the mens room at the airport while he was trying to do his business. He kept mum about what was going on. The MSM was obnoxiously rudely storming hotel lobbies for rooms. "We're the Press!" blah blah blah. In our small family owned hotel the owners were huddled together when we returned. Then they and just about every Bajan I ran into on the street, in restaurants and elsewhere asked me if I was an American. I replied yes. Then they profusely thanked me over and over as most had friends and family on Grenada and had been very concerned about Cubans taking the island over. Of course when I returned to the USA and read some of the press coverage I could not believe they had written about the conflict I was near. Anyway, I found Bajans to be very proper and polite people. Posters were up instructing beach goers to cover up when they went into grocery stores, not just go in their bathing suits. The British influence was strong. I realize that was 40 years ago, and things have changed. Yet I wonder if Rihanna truly represents the culture of Barbados today.
Velvet
02-13-2023, 06:55 PM
1. Yes, she was twerking. She kinda made that move famous a few years ago. It's an extension of the Mapouka dance, a modern dance of the Ivory Coast in West Africa from the 1990's.
2. You can't understand her because she's Barbadian and has a very thick accent.
3. The largest generation demographic of NFL fans aren't old enough to have one foot in their grave yet. This is their dance music. Just like I never understood the point of the Watusi, you don't have to understand the point of twerking.
4. Yes, she's pregnant. It's amazing what pregnant women are capable of doing these days. Back when you were in your 30's, pregnant women stayed home, vacuumed the floors, had their husband do all the heavy lifting, had the milk man deliver the gallon of milk, didn't buy pampers because they were washing cloth diapers themselves, and their husbands actually earned enough money that the wives didn't have to work to support the family. And so they weren't allowed to. They also weren't allowed to have a credit card in their own name. Dancing while pregnant was scandalous, and probably considered dangerous. Women also smoked and drank while pregnant because they weren't informed yet that both of those things were unhealthy to their unborn child.
5. Rhianna is also known for celebrating her sexuality. It's not particularly to my taste but I don't fault her for sharing her enthusiasm.
6. She was fully dressed from chin to toes, and those white outfits are hip-hop outfits. Considering that Rhianna is a Barbadian hip-hop performer - it makes sense. I don't know how any of them were able to handle all that costuming, it was in the 70's yesterday. I would've been sweating bullets.
5. I'm not much of a Rhianna fan, but I do like a couple of her songs. They're great for exercising. And twerking. Which is actually fun, and I'll continue doing until I have to worry about breaking a hip in the process. By that time, some other music genre will show up on the charts and I'll whine that it's horrible and vulgar.
Thank you for explaining. You have certainly extended and updated my musical knowledge. I still don’t like that type of music but I love Barbados. They have a wonderful university in Bridgetown and the elementary school kids wear uniforms. Just a lovely culture.
I'm Popeye!
02-13-2023, 08:03 PM
The Football Half-Time-Show
Exactly what they have been representing the last 10 - 15 years, Disrespectful Trash!
UpNorth
02-13-2023, 08:14 PM
The entire performance was lip synced so the comment about the thick accent - not buying it. She definitely did not make "twerking" famous. That trashy move has been done for many years by many people.
Didn't mind the performance all that much but I do find it dishonest when a "performer" needs to lip synch their entire act. Are they not good enough to sing live? I guess this has been going on with most Super Bowl halftimes for years now. That great performance of Whitney Houston singing the Star Spangled Banner some years ago was lip synced too. Boo!
tophcfa
02-13-2023, 08:17 PM
Apparently the days of The Who, Rolling Stones, and Paul McCarthy performing during halftime are long gone. And what happened to all those great Miller Light and Budweiser commercials? Thankfully there are DVR’s with a fast forward button so we can at least still watch some watered down football without all the garbage in between the snaps.
djlnc
02-13-2023, 08:29 PM
Apparently the days of The Who, Rolling Stones, and Paul McCarthy performing during halftime are long gone. And what happened to all those great Miller Light and Budweiser commercials? Thankfully there are DVR’s with a fast forward button so we can at least still watch some watered down football without all the garbage in between the snaps.
It's a good representation of the decaying American "culture".
dwoodley1975
02-13-2023, 09:00 PM
I love it!!!!
VApeople
02-13-2023, 10:27 PM
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
This an absolutely beautiful video of the song that was sung at halftime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9poWKKpbU
The violin player is Lindsey Sterling and there are many wonderful videos of her.
Taltarzac725
02-13-2023, 11:37 PM
This an absolutely beautiful video of the song that was sung at halftime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9poWKKpbU
The violin player is Lindsey Sterling and there are many wonderful videos of her.
Nice.
Thanks!
The Chipster
02-14-2023, 04:44 AM
I remember when my parents were disgusted by the arrival of The Beatles. And I was told that their parents (my grandparents) were enraged about Elvis Presley. And going back a few hundred years, Beethoven fans castigated the new scandalous WALTZ music.
Why do us old folks always bitch about the newest music?
BoatRatKat
02-14-2023, 05:13 AM
I actually think Rhianna has a fantastic voice and does have some great songs. Unfortunately, her performance at the Superbowl was not good. I couldn't understand a word of it (she does not have a thick accent as another poster suggested), she seemed uninterested in her own performance and the crude gestures were not needed. I don't know why this generation wants their daughters growing up thinking that's what they should be doing and having their sons grow up to think that's what young women should be doing. It's sad.
Ele201
02-14-2023, 05:15 AM
Ah, must be in the eyes of the beholder - she was twerking? I thought she had bedbugs or something and was just scratching. How could you tell in that outfit? I was on the phone the whole time so maybe I missed something.
Rhianna wasn’t twerking! She just placed her hand on her butt momentarily. It seemed awkward. And just No on your bedbugs comment.
Ele201
02-14-2023, 05:22 AM
Apparently the days of The Who, Rolling Stones, and Paul McCarthy performing during halftime are long gone. And what happened to all those great Miller Light and Budweiser commercials? Thankfully there are DVR’s with a fast forward button so we can at least still watch some watered down football without all the garbage in between the snaps.
You made some good points! The quick answer is that the media focuses on a young demographic nowadays. So, that explains why Rhianna and not The Who or Paul McCarthy.
And now that you mentioned it, where were the usual Budweiser ads on the Super Bowl this year?
brines
02-14-2023, 05:29 AM
eIf she only would have sang mustang sally
brines
02-14-2023, 05:30 AM
if she would have only sang mustang sally
Cobullymom
02-14-2023, 05:43 AM
The entire performance was lip synced so the comment about the thick accent - not buying it. She definitely did not make "twerking" famous. That trashy move has been done for many years by many people.
Yup, all about who can out trash the next. Makes you feel good about the way the world is headed. This isn't entertainment it's exibition and sexual exploitation, and the excuses that people except that it's appropriate for national TV. It has nothing to do with football..So glad I did not see any of it.
Ele201
02-14-2023, 05:44 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Well, I recognized a couple of Rhianna’s songs. If you aren’t familiar with any of her music, then you’d have a hard time understanding the words, because the sound system was not up to par. That may be because of her moving up and down so much, made the sound unstable.
One of her hit songs, which is very recognizable, is “Diamonds in the Sky.” She did that one towards the end. She is talented, but I agree with you that overall the performance was far less than great. And by the way, Rhianna was interviewed and said she practiced more than 20 variations of her show. So this was the final cut! I also hated the gratuitous crotch grabbing stuff, just seemed awkward.
banjobob
02-14-2023, 05:58 AM
We had the same problem, but I happened on the half time show on YouTube and the audio was great understood the song lyrics clearly. That was not a act I enjoy though.
La lamy
02-14-2023, 06:10 AM
What I saw, as I turned the sound off since I don’t like that music, was these people dressed in space uniforms, standing on construction platforms. One was dressed in a red space outfit (I think she chose the Chiefs too) with a sneer on her face. I guess she was not happy with the half time score. It looked like something cheap thrown together last minute. With such a large audience you’d really think they could do better.
Thrown together?!!! HAHAHA Those men had SO MUCH CHOREOGRAPHY!!!! It probably would take most people a lifetime to remember one song's dancing, let alone the crazy complex choreography they had to perform for 13 minutes. Rihanna (and her music) was incredibly boring to me, but I enjoyed the army of men.
Outofjersey
02-14-2023, 06:18 AM
It’s simply a lost generation
Maker
02-14-2023, 06:23 AM
That garbage appeals to kids, many are the same ages as the football players. Where new money will flow into the NFL someday. It's marketing 101.
We hate it because we are old. Same as our parents hated things we liked as kids. The halftime shows will never appeal to us because we do not represent income to the NFL.
Follow the money.
Darield
02-14-2023, 06:33 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
I haven't seen a good half-time show in more than a few years. They get worse every year and this year was awful.
bowlingal
02-14-2023, 06:44 AM
did not enjoy it at all. Couldn't understand the costumes at all. What were they supposed to be? Not a Rihanna fan anyway, Didn't understand the lyrics but, did like the floating platforms. Utter disappointment from beginning to end. Did not live up to all the hype.
PJackpot
02-14-2023, 07:10 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
From what I read on Sunday, the average age of an NFL fan is 51. Median age for Sunday viewership was 49. Definitely the wrong demographic for that kind of crap.
swooner
02-14-2023, 07:17 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
It was pathetic!
gbs317
02-14-2023, 07:21 AM
what did the people dancing in the white costumes, represent? was there some sort of message?
Sorry if I offend anyone but they looked like they represented giant sperm swimming to Rihanna while she was holding her crotch????
nancyre
02-14-2023, 07:26 AM
I was pregnant in my 30's. I was working full time in a print shop. Moving cases of paper, on my feet the entire day. Yes I used disposable diapers. I had my own credit and worked from full time from 21 to retirement/caregiving in my 50s. That changed back in the 1960s and 1970s.
I give the dancers credit for the sync, the song was impossible to hear over the band, and the costumes in general were awful.
Not a football fan - but I used to look forward to the commercials and halftime. Now it has become just something to mute and chat over. The audience is multi-generational how about something coordinated so all generations could find something enjoyable?
miharris
02-14-2023, 07:26 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Someone at our party remarked that it looked like a singing lobster surrounded by dancing snowmen, like what you might see on Sponge Bob SquarePants.
NoMo50
02-14-2023, 07:29 AM
Agree that this year's halftime show was awful. But, then again, that isn't my kind of entertainment, so I'm obviously biased against it. The good news was the 30 minute break allowed plenty of time to take the dog out, have a bathroom break, and prepare fresh snacks.
On the other hand, Chris Stapleton's pre-game rendition of the national anthem was magnificent.
LcLceder
02-14-2023, 07:30 AM
Once again, the half time show was vulgar. Example: The lead singer, pantomimed licking her hand and rubbing her privates. She also grabbed her posterior and did a modified "twerk?" Maybe we are ALL getting old, but surely folks do not think that a "show" like that is appropriate for the whole family. Sometimes, I think that the most popular artists(?) today would not be given a second notice if they did not have a video of them performing.
Do you noticed the one who do that, not being a being a raciest but most of them are blacks that do that.
WingedFoot78
02-14-2023, 07:31 AM
I watched the entire halftime show. Well, except for the time I fell asleep. This was because I was counting the number commercials during the game, approx 120. I don't remember the last halftime show I watched. It's amazing what garbage they pass off as entertainment these days.
The game was interesting.
idasr
02-14-2023, 07:34 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Not the Ed Sullivan Show for sure!
Villages Kahuna
02-14-2023, 07:38 AM
Worst I can remember.
Lovey2
02-14-2023, 07:42 AM
The last thing I want to see is a pregnant woman dressed in red, twerking, much less all the others in white twerking and making other lewd motions. Discussing!
Oh, yeah....discussing.....
Laker14
02-14-2023, 07:44 AM
eIf she only would have sang mustang sally
Ha ha!!
I agree... followed by Play that funky music, White Boy,
and so we could all slow dance, Tennessee Whiskey.
The TV crowd would have loved it.
Lovey2
02-14-2023, 07:46 AM
Do you noticed the one who do that, not being a being a raciest but most of them are blacks that do that.
Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"! All young singers today do that, black, white, yellow or orange. If you have grandkids, you can bet your sweet *** they twerk, or try to. I didn't necessarily care for it either, but it's an AGE thing, not a COLOR thing.
airstreamingypsy
02-14-2023, 07:50 AM
Hahahahahaha......
Marathon Man
02-14-2023, 08:00 AM
That garbage appeals to kids, many are the same ages as the football players. Where new money will flow into the NFL someday. It's marketing 101.
We hate it because we are old. Same as our parents hated things we liked as kids. The halftime shows will never appeal to us because we do not represent income to the NFL.
Follow the money.
Well said. Anybody remember what the "old people" said about Elvis?
vinricci
02-14-2023, 08:08 AM
What’s up with a black national anthem? Dividing us not unifying.
Tyson
02-14-2023, 08:12 AM
Whitney Houston DID NOT lip synch. Best Star Spangled Banner performance EVER.
FredTheHead
02-14-2023, 08:17 AM
I still think Elvis's gyrating on stage was vulgar. Music entertainment has not changed, it is still vulgar.
Wondering
02-14-2023, 08:29 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
It's a generational thing. We are getting old.
dp.reed
02-14-2023, 08:39 AM
Hang on folks!
In about 40 years, this will be the music playing in the squares. None of the bands will be playing Mustang Sally. :-(
I'm not planning to stick around another 40 years, so, I'll just Let It Be.
JGibson
02-14-2023, 08:40 AM
The last 3 Super Bowls consisted of Beyonce, J-Lo and Rhianna all soft porn performances. All POC and all women, is this there definition of equality?
The fly over was all women and they needed to remind us of it.
We also had a fake black national anthem.
80 % of the players are black and 75% of the fans are white.
The NFL is tone deaf and need to bring back at the very least some rock bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers
I didn't watch it because of the slap on the wrist they gave rapist DeShaun Watson but this is all to woke and nothing but virtue signaling to me.
I'm grateful to been alive when we didn't have all these nonsense and real football not this watered down version.
Vermilion Villager
02-14-2023, 08:41 AM
They were the slow swimming sperm,pig was already preggies..
Wow!!! so sad that so late in life you are so hateful...chilout
Ele201
02-14-2023, 08:42 AM
That garbage appeals to kids, many are the same ages as the football players. Where new money will flow into the NFL someday. It's marketing 101.
We hate it because we are old. Same as our parents hated things we liked as kids. The halftime shows will never appeal to us because we do not represent income to the NFL.
Follow the money.
It’s not garbage, it’s music! I like a wide variety of music, including a couple of Rhianna’s songs, too.
[ She was the one who sang at half time] It’s ok to like contemporary music when you’re older like us. Although, she wouldn’t be my first choice for the half-time show, I’ll grant you that.
Chi-Town
02-14-2023, 08:43 AM
Halftime show was mediocre at best. Needed to go back to the best one ever. The Who.
https://youtu.be/ScA2FqJn9ic
tvbound
02-14-2023, 08:44 AM
Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"! All young singers today do that, black, white, yellow or orange. If you have grandkids, you can bet your sweet *** they twerk, or try to. I didn't necessarily care for it either, but it's an AGE thing, not a COLOR thing.
"Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"!"
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around...in this thread alone.
Vermilion Villager
02-14-2023, 08:47 AM
Here....I translated your comment for you
Do you noticed the one who do that, not being a being a raciest but (here comes the racist comment) most of them are blacks that do that.
fjoyner
02-14-2023, 08:50 AM
For me, the HT show was just unappealing in many ways. Clearly, I'm not the demographic they were targeting. It's been that way for a while, so I use that time as a break to do ANYthing else but watch the TV. I'm fine to be out of step in a case like this.
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
GATORBILL66
02-14-2023, 08:52 AM
what did the people dancing in the white costumes, represent? Was there some sort of message?
santanic!
MrFlorida
02-14-2023, 08:54 AM
I'm done with the whole NFL thing, I prefer to watch college football....
ThirdOfFive
02-14-2023, 08:57 AM
Apparently the days of The Who, Rolling Stones, and Paul McCarthy performing during halftime are long gone. And what happened to all those great Miller Light and Budweiser commercials? Thankfully there are DVR’s with a fast forward button so we can at least still watch some watered down football without all the garbage in between the snaps.
My -#1 granddaughter had a good take on it: People in generations past became famous because they could sing. Today, people who are famous, TRY to sing.
I think she's on to something there...
ThirdOfFive
02-14-2023, 08:59 AM
What’s up with a black national anthem? Dividing us not unifying.
Precisely why I stopped watching the Super Bowl with the advent of "woke". Highlights are good enough.
wamley
02-14-2023, 09:00 AM
The whole thing was disgusting and unrecognizable. How about something that doesn't hump anything and disgusting displays of playing with yourself.
ThirdOfFive
02-14-2023, 09:01 AM
It's a generational thing. We are getting old.
Is it?
I think it is more a "values" thing. Art imitates life, after all.
Heytubes
02-14-2023, 09:08 AM
After watching that excuse of entertainment, I’ve decided to become a singer. I’ll be performing soon so I can become famous and rich making sounds like chalk on a blackboard. Of course with my arthritis I won’t be able to gyrate.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 09:10 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
I had some problems hearing the words of some R+R songs in about 1958, also some bee-bop songs. Then later I had trouble following Bob Dylan's songs. I hear the volume well, but the frequencies......not so well. So, each year music like Rap became more difficult for me to hear. The VA determined that I was eligible to get a hearing aid from them, but because I hear volume well, I am reluctant to go for a hearing aid........which people have said brings new problems with it.
........So, my conclusion is........that for seniors not hearing (or liking) the latest music......it is a combination of hearing loss and not being music of and for their particular generation. We all like things from our youth.
Regorp
02-14-2023, 09:14 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
I do like some of Rihanna's music, but this was a letdown as she is a talented dancer as well and being pregnant limited her performance. Some of the risque acts should have been omitted. Overall not her best work
GmaLisaG
02-14-2023, 09:18 AM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
Bay Kid
02-14-2023, 09:19 AM
Not sorry I missed another half time show. Never worth watching.
HORNET
02-14-2023, 09:20 AM
Goodell said that if it wasn’t for this c##p there wouldn’t be a NFL
CCristella
02-14-2023, 09:25 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Lawrence Welk was not available!
CCristella
02-14-2023, 09:26 AM
Lawrence Welk was not available!
PugMom
02-14-2023, 09:31 AM
Once again, the half time show was vulgar. Example: The lead singer, pantomimed licking her hand and rubbing her privates. She also grabbed her posterior and did a modified "twerk?" Maybe we are ALL getting old, but surely folks do not think that a "show" like that is appropriate for the whole family. Sometimes, I think that the most popular artists(?) today would not be given a second notice if they did not have a video of them performing.
not to be that gross, but did you notice she smells the back of her hand after rubbing the crotch area? it pushes the borders of obscenity. just nasty. :ohdear:
PugMom
02-14-2023, 09:32 AM
and my daughter SWEARS she was lip-syncing to boot!
SeaCros
02-14-2023, 09:35 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Another football season comes to a close and as we all get older the same things are said about the halftime show. It must be said again that if you don't like it don't watch and it's as simple as that. This forum has turned into a place where there are nothing but complaints about everything. I get it that all are welcome to express how they fell but all the negativity has become a mass that outweighs any positivity.
Yes its 2023 and the days of seeing performers we are "used to" have come and gone. The younger generation expresses themselves in ways many of us don't understand (or care to) but I remember when I was growing up and my parents would say much of what is said here on this forum. I may not be as old as some out here but it's be time to embrace some change and open ourselves up to new things.
Go Steelers!!!
Whitley
02-14-2023, 09:37 AM
1. Yes, she was twerking. She kinda made that move famous a few years ago. It's an extension of the Mapouka dance, a modern dance of the Ivory Coast in West Africa from the 1990's.
2. You can't understand her because she's Barbadian and has a very thick accent.
3. The largest generation demographic of NFL fans aren't old enough to have one foot in their grave yet. This is their dance music. Just like I never understood the point of the Watusi, you don't have to understand the point of twerking.
.
What exactly is the point of twerking?
Whitley
02-14-2023, 09:38 AM
Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"! All young singers today do that, black, white, yellow or orange. If you have grandkids, you can bet your sweet *** they twerk, or try to. I didn't necessarily care for it either, but it's an AGE thing, not a COLOR thing.
I would disagree with you. Twerking seems more prevalent in certain cultures. Perhaps it is a cultural thing?
PugMom
02-14-2023, 09:41 AM
That garbage appeals to kids, many are the same ages as the football players. Where new money will flow into the NFL someday. It's marketing 101.
We hate it because we are old. Same as our parents hated things we liked as kids. The halftime shows will never appeal to us because we do not represent income to the NFL.
Follow the money.
& being marketed to our kids, the performances encourage normalizing of sexuality among young people, all part of a much greater picture. THIS is what our kids are watching, & have been for some time. it's no wonder kids are they way they are today.
Whitley
02-14-2023, 09:43 AM
The whole thing was disgusting and unrecognizable. How about something that doesn't hump anything and disgusting displays of playing with yourself.
Rubbing her fingers on her, ...., on her crotch then sniffing them. Keeping it classy.
Regorp
02-14-2023, 09:43 AM
it stank. most of it was tough to understand, and just below-par in terms of entertainment quality. the ads were much better, lol
They need to bring back a great rock and roll show, like maybe Reunited original Grand Funk Railroad!!
Whitley
02-14-2023, 09:45 AM
Here....I translated your comment for you
Someone pointed out that twerking comes from an African dance of the 1990's. Why is it racist to propose that it is more prevalent in black culture.?
UpNorth
02-14-2023, 09:46 AM
Whitney Houston DID NOT lip synch. Best Star Spangled Banner performance EVER.
She sang into a dead microphone. What was heard was her pre recorded version done in a studio. Still qualifies as a faked performance that everyone thought was "live" at the time.
Taltarzac725
02-14-2023, 09:48 AM
I would disagree with you. Twerking seems more prevalent in certain cultures. Perhaps it is a cultural thing?
It is a music and entertainment thing.
OhioBuckeye
02-14-2023, 09:51 AM
I agree, but it might of been a little better than last yrs. rap show that I didn’t completely didn’t understand. If they do these shows totally for the young people or the people that fork out the big bucks for the tickets($6,000. a ticket) Are they basing the shows for the young people or the ones that have the money, surely it’s not the young people that have the money! I agree with you I only understood about 3 or 4 words.
Whitley
02-14-2023, 09:51 AM
not to be that gross, but did you notice she smells the back of her hand after rubbing the crotch area? it pushes the borders of obscenity. just nasty. :ohdear:
There are some on here that will call you racist for not liking that. Some on here would propose the choice is either Lawrence Welk or rubbing one's , umm, kitty(?) then sniffing her fingers.
ThirdOfFive
02-14-2023, 09:54 AM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
Ain't labels fantastic? The perfect dodge to avoid addressing the issues.
Lovey2
02-14-2023, 10:00 AM
I would disagree with you. Twerking seems more prevalent in certain cultures. Perhaps it is a cultural thing?
That is certainly your prerogative. In light of some of the comments, I did just research it and it does have origins in African Dance. However....it is not confined to African Americans. Look at any dance show, wedding reception...even at the squares....ALL races are twerking if the music supports it. It's just a current dance phenomenon and most young people will do it. An example...the Mambo and the cha cha originated in Cuba, but I see plenty of non-latinos doing both. It's a DANCE...that's all.
tvbound
02-14-2023, 10:04 AM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
"Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean."
Sadly, I personally am no longer amazed at your dead-on observation.
Nor am I even surprised, at how often my own observations...are so quickly proved correct. Not that it takes any special prescience, to make these kinds of predictions.
I can't also help but wonder, how many critics already had their minds made up and comments mentally prepared, once it was announced who was performing...and long before her actual half-time act?
Geodyssey
02-14-2023, 10:34 AM
The entire performance was lip synced so the comment about the thick accent - not buying it. She definitely did not make "twerking" famous. That trashy move has been done for many years by many people.
Today, super bowl is THE most American event. Most watched, most money changing hands, most hyped, etc.
It is America condensed into 11 hours (Fox coverage all Sunday), and the half-time show is the pinnacle. Including the twerking.
If you want to know see America's future, watch the super bowl.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 10:34 AM
The whole thing was disgusting and unrecognizable. How about something that doesn't hump anything and disgusting displays of playing with yourself.
Some SENIORS might ENJOY the "humping part".
Velvet
02-14-2023, 10:36 AM
I’m a little puzzled by all this interest in a seemingly non event.
I'm Popeye!
02-14-2023, 10:37 AM
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Geodyssey
02-14-2023, 10:38 AM
not to be that gross, but did you notice she smells the back of her hand after rubbing the crotch area? it pushes the borders of obscenity. just nasty. :ohdear:
Nothing more American than that. Except maybe urban streets filled with vagrants and fentanyl.
You won't find this kind of buck-wild entertainment in (actual) conservative Russia or China, no sir!
Because we have the FREEDOM to do whatever we want!
USA! USA! USA!
Lovey2
02-14-2023, 10:43 AM
not to be that gross, but did you notice she smells the back of her hand after rubbing the crotch area? it pushes the borders of obscenity. just nasty. :ohdear:
Yeah...so this made me go back and look. I do hate the whole crotch grabbing thing. Think Michael Jackson started it maybe. I didn't pay much attention to it at the time, but watching the playback just now, I was taken aback. I don't think she was "sniffing", more like zipping her lips or shushing up. STILL....not classy, rather gross and totally unnecessary. Look, I like a lot of the music now, even some rap, and a lot of the singers. Where they mess up is not playing to their audience. I don't care for it, I know it's a "kid" thing, BUT the Superbowl was the time to show up with some class. Even the costumes and most of the dancing could be forgiven but any lewd gestures should have been left out for this venue. Too bad for her, I thought she was better than that. Of course, I remember Madonna on a bed in one of her acts on TV also. Anyway, just to be clear. I don't care for racism but I don't care for this kinda crap either. It is low class, for sure.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 10:43 AM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
How about Beethoven's Fifth with ZERO dirty dancing ?
SeaCros
02-14-2023, 10:43 AM
Do you noticed the one who do that, not being a being a raciest but most of them are blacks that do that.
When you have to say it, well that is how it comes across. Sad
Ladidi
02-14-2023, 10:55 AM
I thought it was HORRIBLE! Totally disappointed. The half-time show could be so much more to so many more people watching. Seems like year after year they just keep going with the same kind of shows… the ones that only appeal to the younger generation.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 10:56 AM
Another football season comes to a close and as we all get older the same things are said about the halftime show. It must be said again that if you don't like it don't watch and it's as simple as that. This forum has turned into a place where there are nothing but complaints about everything. I get it that all are welcome to express how they fell but all the negativity has become a mass that outweighs any positivity.
Yes its 2023 and the days of seeing performers we are "used to" have come and gone. The younger generation expresses themselves in ways many of us don't understand (or care to) but I remember when I was growing up and my parents would say much of what is said here on this forum. I may not be as old as some out here but it's be time to embrace some change and open ourselves up to new things.
Go Steelers!!!
My parent's generation hated rock and roll because it was "the devil's work". And the Beetles were blasphemous. And the Rolling Stones were godless socialists. And rap music would weaken the country and cause a civil war. And Elvis Prestley was a good guy who joined the Army and was a true American - he just gyrated his hips too much and maybe drank too much. Joan Bias was a communist. And etc, etc.
........Go Steelers....."Iron in cans means jobs in steel".......Long Live Rocky Blier and Franco Harris !
Veiragirl
02-14-2023, 10:57 AM
It was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no matter what tight asses say
meme5x
02-14-2023, 11:01 AM
Totally agree.. thought it was inappropriate!
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 11:04 AM
What exactly is the point of twerking?
That was a good and educational post. Kudos. Twerking to the grave (or ashes).
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 11:08 AM
& being marketed to our kids, the performances encourage normalizing of sexuality among young people, all part of a much greater picture. THIS is what our kids are watching, & have been for some time. it's no wonder kids are they way they are today.
Kids are still kids and want THEIR own SPECIAL music. I like that they seem to give a dung pile about the environmental mess that our GENERATION has handed them.
"Long live Greta Thunberg"!
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 11:10 AM
Rubbing her fingers on her, ...., on her crotch then sniffing them. Keeping it classy.
Like ALL my favorite classy lady friends.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 11:18 AM
I agree, but it might of been a little better than last yrs. rap show that I didn’t completely didn’t understand. If they do these shows totally for the young people or the people that fork out the big bucks for the tickets($6,000. a ticket) Are they basing the shows for the young people or the ones that have the money, surely it’s not the young people that have the money! I agree with you I only understood about 3 or 4 words.
Young people have ALWAYS driven music, culture, and even social values. Fashion is a perfect example. Young people weasel money from their well-off parents and spend it on the NEWEST clothes. The Grunge scene of musicians SPARKED the fashion of wearing BLACK and look around you at what colors TV Bubble-land SENIORS are wearing. It IS PROPAGANDA FASHION............very mind-controlling !!!!!!!
ThirdOfFive
02-14-2023, 11:20 AM
Someone pointed out that twerking comes from an African dance of the 1990's. Why is it racist to propose that it is more prevalent in black culture.?
There are several terms that people use when actually discussing the issue at hand makes them uncomfortable. "Racist" is merely one of them.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 11:21 AM
There are some on here that will call you racist for not liking that. Some on here would propose the choice is either Lawrence Welk or rubbing one's , umm, kitty(?) then sniffing her fingers.
Those stubborn KITTIES. I keep calling "here kitty, kitty, NICE kitty. They keep ignoring me, darn.
PugMom
02-14-2023, 11:43 AM
Another football season comes to a close and as we all get older the same things are said about the halftime show. It must be said again that if you don't like it don't watch and it's as simple as that. This forum has turned into a place where there are nothing but complaints about everything. I get it that all are welcome to express how they fell but all the negativity has become a mass that outweighs any positivity.
Yes its 2023 and the days of seeing performers we are "used to" have come and gone. The younger generation expresses themselves in ways many of us don't understand (or care to) but I remember when I was growing up and my parents would say much of what is said here on this forum. I may not be as old as some out here but it's be time to embrace some change and open ourselves up to new things.
Go Steelers!!!
last years' show was so much better. they had the top names in R-N-B, and halfway decent songs were performed. (Dr Dre even hit the piano keys, doing a good job.) so it's not really a generational thing, for me, anyways, it's the talent, showmanship, & the chemistry with the audience.
scooterstang
02-14-2023, 12:08 PM
I still say "Prince" put on the best halftime show ever in the pouring rain with no lip sinc!
rockyhyder
02-14-2023, 12:46 PM
I’ve been better entertained watching paint dry. Far from family friendly and further from talented.
dadspet
02-14-2023, 12:53 PM
Game was really good but the 1/2 time (show) left a lot to be desired. All those platforms flying around with people in white (outfits) strutting around on them didn't do anything for me.
BTW Watched America's got Talent (I think it was called pre final preview or something like that ) last night and the talent was impressive. Enjoyed it a lot more than the 1/2 time show
Whitley
02-14-2023, 01:29 PM
That is certainly your prerogative. In light of some of the comments, I did just research it and it does have origins in African Dance. However....it is not confined to African Americans. Look at any dance show, wedding reception...even at the squares....ALL races are twerking if the music supports it. It's just a current dance phenomenon and most young people will do it. An example...the Mambo and the cha cha originated in Cuba, but I see plenty of non-latinos doing both. It's a DANCE...that's all.
Like you I also did some research. The NYT (Sept 2013) reports twerking came from the New Orleans music scene of the eighties. It goes on to say: " Twerking is a dance move typically associated with lower-income African-American women that involves the rapid gyration of the hips..." .Twerking (/ˈtwɜːrkɪŋ/; possibly from 'to work') is a type of dance that came out of the bounce music scene of New Orleans in the late 1980s. Individually performed chiefly but not exclusively by women,[1][2] performers dance to popular music in a sexually provocative manner involving throwing or thrusting their hips back or shaking their buttocks, often in a low squatting stance.[3] Twerking is part of a larger set of characteristic moves unique to the New Orleans style of hip-hop known as "bounce".[4] Moves include "mixing", "exercising", the "bend over", the "shoulder hustle", "clapping", "booty clapping", "booty poppin", and "the wild wood"—all recognized as booty shaking or bounce.[5][6] Twerking is but one choreographic gesture within bounce.
As a tradition shaped by local aid and pleasure clubs, block parties and second lines,[7] the dance was central to "a historical situating of sissy bounce—bounce music as performed by artists from the New Orleans African-American community that [led to] a meteoric rise in popularity post-[Hurricane Katrina after 2005]."[8] In the 90s, twerking had widespread appeal in black party culture
Whitley
02-14-2023, 01:37 PM
How about Beethoven's Fifth with ZERO dirty dancing ?
Wow, such a limited extreme view of the world. Either Beethoven of someone rubbing their genitals then sniffing their finger.
Geodyssey
02-14-2023, 02:28 PM
[QUOTE=Whitley;2187450]Twerking is a dance move typically associated with lower-income African-American women that involves the rapid gyration of the hips... "booty poppin".../QUOTE]
You can't get much more American than that!
USA#1 in twerking AND booty poppin.
Stu from NYC
02-14-2023, 03:27 PM
Saw it in main theatre of cruise ship. Was bored to tears and no idea why they staged it with lots of people, apparently almost all black in white suits with face shields.
Sat next to two teen age girls who liked the singing but had no clue why they did it this way. Spent a whole lot of money on it. Quite a few people thought Rhianna was lip synching.
rsmurano
02-14-2023, 05:24 PM
Very bad, typical half time show. Couldn’t understand any words and that’s ok. Even the music sucked.
Pairadocs
02-14-2023, 05:40 PM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Yep ! Not disturbed or negative, just age I guess, but singers and dancers is huge garbage bags ? Too old to "get it"... but, good game (and yes, I know many disagree with that too. I am not a big fan of singers everywhere trying to do an unrecognizable "version" of our National anthem, but again, just an "old foggie" I guess ! Also very much dislike having two national anthems. Will it soon be three ? To me having a "national" anthem for each culture and skin color in a nation, is nothing more than causing strife and division. So sorry to see this happening. Just one opinion of an "old foggie".
Pairadocs
02-14-2023, 05:48 PM
not to be that gross, but did you notice she smells the back of her hand after rubbing the crotch area? it pushes the borders of obscenity. just nasty. :ohdear:
It's our collective age here. For the under 55 world the vulgar gestures, words of gutter filth, etc. are what people are craving ! If not, these, and other, shows, would be completely opposite of what they are. Same with Tic Tok, other "social" media...."social" ???) the more vulgar the better ! ?
Example: have you ever been at a stop sign in your auto with the windows down, and with young grand children in the car ? Had a car pull up beside you with the windows down and the sound turned up to such a level that the CAR actually VIBRATES .... and had to get the windows up quickly before a young child hear the unbelievably filthy language of the "songs", the words used for "women", for "sex", for prostitution, the words used to describe police officers ? What a world ! If people did not love this type of thing so dearly, no one would record it because it would not sell !
Byte1
02-14-2023, 05:53 PM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
Why the label of "haters?" I don't "hate" her. I just thought she SUCKED, was terrible, vulgar and ugly in this case. I have heard that she is a good artist, but she sure did not prove it this time. Not hate, just have an opinion. Didn't like it when that little white girl did it either. Miley Sirus?? I believe she is white. Don't hate her either, but I think she is vulgar and juvenile.
Pairadocs
02-14-2023, 05:56 PM
Another football season comes to a close and as we all get older the same things are said about the halftime show. It must be said again that if you don't like it don't watch and it's as simple as that. This forum has turned into a place where there are nothing but complaints about everything. I get it that all are welcome to express how they fell but all the negativity has become a mass that outweighs any positivity.
Yes its 2023 and the days of seeing performers we are "used to" have come and gone. The younger generation expresses themselves in ways many of us don't understand (or care to) but I remember when I was growing up and my parents would say much of what is said here on this forum. I may not be as old as some out here but it's be time to embrace some change and open ourselves up to new things.
Go Steelers!!!
I for one am always reading and listening for new ideas, trends, etc. I personally do not see embracing gestures considered vulgar in most cultures, as a mark of NOT accepting "new ideas". I agree, turn it off. But, I think you might be reading a bit too much into perfectly interesting, stimulating, discussions on this forum. Much of what you are filtering through your perceptions, are actually not "complaints" at all. If you read most a second time, you begin to understand the difference in a fact and a perception. By understanding this, you begin to understand people, and how each comes from a different framework of experience that shapes them and their opinions. And THAT is the beginning of rational thought.
Pairadocs
02-14-2023, 06:01 PM
Today, super bowl is THE most American event. Most watched, most money changing hands, most hyped, etc.
It is America condensed into 11 hours (Fox coverage all Sunday), and the half-time show is the pinnacle. Including the twerking.
If you want to know see America's future, watch the super bowl.
Prophetic of you.... I think you are 100% accurate about the future.. but I hope I am wrong ! As an undergrad, I used to wonder how in world many of my professors could be sooooo cynical. Later, in grad school, I understood a bit more, understood that experiences and what you observe through life, can't be denied. Finally, I came to the conclusion that any rational, thinking, analyzing person, can not prevent being what is called "cynical", you can only deny what is happening around you for so long...
Laker14
02-14-2023, 06:40 PM
I thought you'd like to know that I just got off the phone with the Commish, (or "Rahdj", as I call him) and he was shocked, SHOCKED! I tell you, that the halftime show wasn't universally embraced among The Villages' demographic. He said he thought they'd, to use his words "nailed it."
Go figure.
Veiragirl
02-14-2023, 06:41 PM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
I thought it was great. The coordiation of the dancers and the logistics to have the show up high at different levels was amazing.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 07:20 PM
It's our collective age here. For the under 55 world the vulgar gestures, words of gutter filth, etc. are what people are craving ! If not, these, and other, shows, would be completely opposite of what they are. Same with Tic Tok, other "social" media...."social" ???) the more vulgar the better ! ?
Example: have you ever been at a stop sign in your auto with the windows down, and with young grand children in the car ? Had a car pull up beside you with the windows down and the sound turned up to such a level that the CAR actually VIBRATES .... and had to get the windows up quickly before a young child hear the unbelievably filthy language of the "songs", the words used for "women", for "sex", for prostitution, the words used to describe police officers ? What a world ! If people did not love this type of thing so dearly, no one would record it because it would not sell !
I always wonder about the loud cars and car stereos that drive around here. Should NOT the Police get involved because it can cause distracted driving by others and at some high volume, it ought to be illegal? Also, are NOT the other drivers sitting at a red light entitled to have privacy and be able to have conversations within their vehicles - who is looking out for their rights - should it NOT BE society in the form of Police enforcement.
.......And what about the COST to society when these LOUD drivers lose their hearing and they become somewhat handicapped by their own doing? It IS a good example of a stupid, strange, unproductive situation.
jimjamuser
02-14-2023, 07:27 PM
I always wonder about the loud cars and car stereos that drive around here. Should NOT the Police get involved because it can cause distracted driving by others and at some high volume, it ought to be illegal? Also, are NOT the other drivers sitting at a red light entitled to have privacy and be able to have conversations within their vehicles - who is looking out for their rights - should it NOT BE society in the form of Police enforcement.
.......And what about the COST to society when these LOUD drivers lose their hearing and they become somewhat handicapped by their own doing? It IS a good example of a stupid, strange, unproductive situation.
DARFAP
02-14-2023, 08:26 PM
Most of the SB halftime performances of late reek of vulgarity. Nobody can perform without crotch grabbing a few times. These acts are disgusting.
I'm Popeye!
02-14-2023, 08:55 PM
I thought it was great. The coordiation of the dancers and the logistics to have the show up high at different levels was amazing.
You can watch that crap all day on your TV set, so why bring it to an important game like the Superbowl, uncalled for.
Lindsyburnsy
02-14-2023, 09:16 PM
LOL. Lip-synced or live, she still has an accent! The entire performance was lip synced so the comment about the thick accent - not buying it. She definitely did not make "twerking" famous. That trashy move has been done for many years by many people.
Freeda
02-15-2023, 02:08 AM
I loved it. Rihanna's songs are amazing; though I agree that at times the sound quality of the half time show's audio left something to be desired; sometimes that's an unfortunate reflection of the televised sound carry-through versus how it sounded in person at the event, But still, I could hear most of her lyrics; but then, I know her songs. Some of her songs are pop music; some are more hip-hop. I think people in our generation would like current pop music, in general, more than hip-hop.
Whether or not she was lip-syncing (as has been claimed to have occurred with a number of prior super bowl halftime performances), Rihanna is a wonderful singer and performer; which is why she's been a star for two decades - starting when she was a teenager - and is the second best selling female artist of all times.
The choreography done by the large number of dancers was intricate, very exertional, very skillfully done; and amazingly synchronized. I'm amazed that anyone who would watch the dancing objectively would not agree with this.
I have always followed whatever is current pop, and I love most of it; it is melodic, musical, catchy, and rhythmic. (A good source is Pop Culture Radio, available on Amazon Echo, etc; ask Alexa to play 'current pop'). Our age group needs to be more open to it, and is missing out on decades of a lot of good music. (As distinguished from hip-hop, rap, and current R&B, most of which I don't like; a problem with our generation is that many people, because they listen mostly to oldies, and stopped listening to current pop music long ago, lump all of these genres into the term 'pop' music, and think that all pop music sounds like rap/hip-hop).
thelegges
02-15-2023, 03:13 AM
Why some music is not on my play list, the logistics of the floating stage was pretty amazing in my opinion on a football field. Our granddaughter teaches hip hop and had the opportunity to dance with the late Twitch, loved the performance.
Getting that many dancers all in sync, and the white was the perfect background for her red outfit. As for her clothing style, age very much comes into why you were unhappy with the choice. Many come from the age of women wore tents when they were pregnant, mostly hiding for 9 months.
In todays world women celebrate being pregnant, are proud to show how their body is adapting to bringing new life in the world. My parents would be appalled at a pregnant performer on TV for all the world to see. Me not so much, daughter loved it, oldest boy not a fan of her, but younger boy likes her music, also thought the stages were amazing.
Grandkids have “R” on their play list along with 70’s music they grew up listening to.
So age really does factor in if you, hated half time or liked it.
srockey
02-15-2023, 05:51 AM
If our generation was the target audience the halftime show would be different. Alas, it will never be what we want to see or hear again.
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Richarjon
02-15-2023, 06:54 AM
nothing but trashy...
GizmoWhiskers
02-15-2023, 07:38 AM
Oopma Loompas
ThirdOfFive
02-15-2023, 08:00 AM
I always wonder about the loud cars and car stereos that drive around here. Should NOT the Police get involved because it can cause distracted driving by others and at some high volume, it ought to be illegal? Also, are NOT the other drivers sitting at a red light entitled to have privacy and be able to have conversations within their vehicles - who is looking out for their rights - should it NOT BE society in the form of Police enforcement.
.......And what about the COST to society when these LOUD drivers lose their hearing and they become somewhat handicapped by their own doing? It IS a good example of a stupid, strange, unproductive situation.
It is. A law was passed in Florida last year as I recall that makes it illegal to play music (I use the term "music" loosely...) in your car so loud that it is discernable from I believe 25 feet away.
Some people were up in arms over the law, claiming that it could be used by police to initiate a stop when no other reason existed and thus could be used as an harassment technique.
Larchap49
02-15-2023, 08:34 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
Half time shows have been declining in quality for years. Most of the lyrics you couldn't hear were R rated so good for the youngsters to not hear them. Perhaps if the NFL would pay the performer they might attract some performers who would put a little more effort into the show. By the way I love Rihanna so I am not criticizing the choice of performer. There just seems to be more concentration on the theatrics than the content. Hey the commercials sucked too remember when on Monday there was more chatter about the commercials than the game
airstreamingypsy
02-15-2023, 08:49 AM
I still say "Prince" put on the best halftime show ever in the pouring rain with no lip sinc!
....yes, and it was fun to watch the outrage after because of the silhouette of his guitar which looked like a giant phallus.
jimjamuser
02-15-2023, 08:56 AM
Why some music is not on my play list, the logistics of the floating stage was pretty amazing in my opinion on a football field. Our granddaughter teaches hip hop and had the opportunity to dance with the late Twitch, loved the performance.
Getting that many dancers all in sync, and the white was the perfect background for her red outfit. As for her clothing style, age very much comes into why you were unhappy with the choice. Many come from the age of women wore tents when they were pregnant, mostly hiding for 9 months.
In todays world women celebrate being pregnant, are proud to show how their body is adapting to bringing new life in the world. My parents would be appalled at a pregnant performer on TV for all the world to see. Me not so much, daughter loved it, oldest boy not a fan of her, but younger boy likes her music, also thought the stages were amazing.
Grandkids have “R” on their play list along with 70’s music they grew up listening to.
So age really does factor in if you, hated half time or liked it.
An excellent post. I am in total agreement with it.
Billy1
02-15-2023, 08:59 AM
As a child my preacher told me I was going to hell for watching Elvis Presley, so be careful,
Laker14
02-15-2023, 09:15 AM
As a child my preacher told me I was going to hell for watching Elvis Presley, so be careful,
Around the time I was in 1st grade, at a Catholic Parochial school in Cincinnati, I remember a priest advising the flock that the movie "L'il Abner" was on the "Condemned" list, because of the scantily clad women. I'm pretty sure his warning had the opposite effect of the one he intended.
I also remember a discount store, "Arlen's" I think it was called, being condemned because they planned on being open on Sundays.
Remember when The Stones had to change the lyrics from "Let's spend the night together" to "let's spend some time together" to appease Ed Sullivan and his censors?
I think I read once that audiences gasped out lout when Rhett Butler announced that he didn't "give a damn".
So, if you were deeply offended by the halftime show, I invite you join the rather large group of (mostly now dead) people who feel, or have felt, that any form of artistic expression that goes beyond the bounds of their particular sensitivities is vulgar, reprehensible, and proof of the "moral decline" of society. You'll be comfortable in this group. It's a large one.
jimjamuser
02-15-2023, 09:18 AM
It is. A law was passed in Florida last year as I recall that makes it illegal to play music (I use the term "music" loosely...) in your car so loud that it is discernable from I believe 25 feet away.
Some people were up in arms over the law, claiming that it could be used by police to initiate a stop when no other reason existed and thus could be used as an harassment technique.
My opinion is that it is a GOOD law. If a policeman goes "rogue", or is in a bad MOOD, or has a required number of tickets to write each day.........then they have NUMEROUS small items that they could use as an EXCUSE to stop a motorist. So, the problem is ticket "quotas" and BAD police attitudes, which are probably prevalent in just a few % of the TOTAL number of police in Florida. There does seem to be a nationwide AWARENESS of the need to RETIRE both older Policemen and women because of inflexible attitudes. And find a way on an initial applicant interview to search deep into the soul and psyche of the potential policeperson.
........It can't be overestimated how IMPORTANT police are to society. We need and should demand the best and not be afraid to PAY for the BEST.
........One thing that I have found about ANY organization, including a given Police force, is that the whole organization tends to take on the personality of the TOP person (usually male). There is a county in Florida where at the peak of the Delta Coronavirus epidemic, this Sheriff UNILATERALLY DECREED that his deputies NOT wear masks. That IS a good example of how a top person in any organization can excessively influence the workers under their thumb.
Wrhobson
02-15-2023, 09:25 AM
I can't call that exhibition "dancing".
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
OhioBuckeye
02-15-2023, 09:45 AM
I agree but the news said the half time show with Rihanna got more people watching it, 118.7 million & the actual Super Bowl only got 113.?, they must have had more people under the age of 40 to 45 watching the half time show. Go figure!
ThirdOfFive
02-15-2023, 10:35 AM
My opinion is that it is a GOOD law. If a policeman goes "rogue", or is in a bad MOOD, or has a required number of tickets to write each day.........then they have NUMEROUS small items that they could use as an EXCUSE to stop a motorist. So, the problem is ticket "quotas" and BAD police attitudes, which are probably prevalent in just a few % of the TOTAL number of police in Florida. There does seem to be a nationwide AWARENESS of the need to RETIRE both older Policemen and women because of inflexible attitudes. And find a way on an initial applicant interview to search deep into the soul and psyche of the potential policeperson.
........It can't be overestimated how IMPORTANT police are to society. We need and should demand the best and not be afraid to PAY for the BEST.
........One thing that I have found about ANY organization, including a given Police force, is that the whole organization tends to take on the personality of the TOP person (usually male). There is a county in Florida where at the peak of the Delta Coronavirus epidemic, this Sheriff UNILATERALLY DECREED that his deputies NOT wear masks. That IS a good example of how a top person in any organization can excessively influence the workers under their thumb.
Not totally sure of your point.
I think it is pretty obvious that the law enforcement around here know who the troublemakers and petty small-time crooks are, and traffic stops that result in an arrest for whatever petty crime, are an excellent way to keep the pressure on. If this is another way of doing that, then have at it. I'm in favor.
lawngilander
02-15-2023, 11:15 AM
Why not bring back the days of tha marching bands? They could incorporate the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine marching bands to put on a terrific half time show!
Laker14
02-15-2023, 11:29 AM
Why not bring back the days of tha marching bands? They could incorporate the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine marching bands to put on a terrific half time show!
because nobody would watch it, and advertising revenue would plummet. We may not appreciate the entertainment, but a very large demographic does, hence BIG $$$ for the NFL in advertising.
JSR22
02-15-2023, 11:39 AM
Why not bring back the days of tha marching bands? They could incorporate the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine marching bands to put on a terrific half time show!
That sounds boring to me.
Velvet
02-15-2023, 12:06 PM
....yes, and it was fun to watch the outrage after because of the silhouette of his guitar which looked like a giant phallus.
Why the desperate association with sex? Makes me wonder can’t they get any privately? And the other thing is, it is toddlers who are usually interested in their private parts.
Stu from NYC
02-15-2023, 12:08 PM
Why not bring back the days of tha marching bands? They could incorporate the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine marching bands to put on a terrific half time show!
Would bet most of the people watching are females who are there for halftime show and commercials and many leave as soon as halftime is over.
Whitley
02-15-2023, 12:23 PM
........One thing that I have found about ANY organization, including a given Police force, is that the whole organization tends to take on the personality of the TOP person (usually male). There is a county in Florida where at the peak of the Delta Coronavirus epidemic, this Sheriff UNILATERALLY DECREED that his deputies NOT wear masks. That IS a good example of how a top person in any organization can excessively influence the workers under their thumb.
I bet you that same cis white male sheriff, undoubtedly a phobe in every respect, would also have refused to wear a red nose if ordered to do so. We need to eliminate such people. People who refuse to follow orders based on silly things like freedom and science. The sooner such people are gone we can look forward to a world where people know to follow orders without question.
Whitley
02-15-2023, 12:31 PM
Most of the SB halftime performances of late reek of vulgarity. Nobody can perform without crotch grabbing a few times. These acts are disgusting.
First you complain about a "performer" rubbing her genitals and sniffing her finger, next you will complain about people looting, stealing, and defecating in the street. So very old of you. Get with the times and learn to embrace such behaviour, lest you be labeled outdated and intolerant.
DennisDee
02-15-2023, 12:43 PM
Many people say they couldn't understand the lyrics.
This is going to be a continuing problem for us.
Maybe we should just turn on captions.
Whitley
02-15-2023, 01:20 PM
Many people say they couldn't understand the lyrics.
This is going to be a continuing problem for us.
Maybe we should just turn on captions.
Did you ever wonder what a song appears as to someone hearing impaired. Unable to hear the music, they follow the captions:
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Coming out your mouth with your blah blah blah
Zip your lips like a padlock
And meet me at the back with the jack and the jukebox
I don't really care where you live at
Just turn around boy and let me hit that
Don't be a little bitch with your chit chat
Just show me where your d**k's at
Or
I like that boom boom pow
Them chickens jackin' my style
They try to copy my swagger
I'm on that next **** now
I'm so 3008
You so 2000 and late
I got that boom, boom, boom
That future boom, boom, boom
Remember, if you think the above is silly or going in the wrong direction, some ageist will tell you that you are not hip and cool. Make way for the beautiful lyrics (see above). Don't forget Elvis.
jimjamuser
02-15-2023, 02:13 PM
Not totally sure of your point.
I think it is pretty obvious that the law enforcement around here know who the troublemakers and petty small-time crooks are, and traffic stops that result in an arrest for whatever petty crime, are an excellent way to keep the pressure on. If this is another way of doing that, then have at it. I'm in favor.
Well, I basically agreed with your post. And the point IS that here AND around the US, there are Police Officers that should RETIRE and make way for younger more socially responsible officers to be hired. I did say that there are only a small % of "bad apples".
jimjamuser
02-15-2023, 02:22 PM
I bet you that same cis white male sheriff, undoubtedly a phobe in every respect, would also have refused to wear a red nose if ordered to do so. We need to eliminate such people. People who refuse to follow orders based on silly things like freedom and science. The sooner such people are gone we can look forward to a world where people know to follow orders without question.
I would say that we tend to disagree about the DANGER to people over 65 from the Delta CV variant. I noticed that as soon as the shot was available that a large % of TV Land residents drove ALL over the state to get one. To me, that WAS high motivation and I imagine that BEFORE they got the CV 1st shot, they would NOT have liked a Deputy sticking their nose inside their vehicle while they got stopped for a ticket.
Whitley
02-16-2023, 02:18 PM
Well, I basically agreed with your post. And the point IS that here AND around the US, there are Police Officers that should RETIRE and make way for younger more socially responsible officers to be hired. I did say that there are only a small % of "bad apples".
While it is more depressing to see a veteran police officer step on a citizens rights, I would propose that the younger ones tend to be less knowledgeable about the law and peoples rights.
As for more socially responsible officers, I am unsure as to what that means. I would think it means someone who is not harmful to society. Can you clarify for me what a socially responsible police officer would be?
Whitley
02-16-2023, 02:44 PM
I would say that we tend to disagree about the DANGER to people over 65 from the Delta CV variant. I noticed that as soon as the shot was available that a large % of TV Land residents drove ALL over the state to get one. To me, that WAS high motivation and I imagine that BEFORE they got the CV 1st shot, they would NOT have liked a Deputy sticking their nose inside their vehicle while they got stopped for a ticket.
We most likely do disagree on many aspects of covid and the risks it posed/poses. I think one of those disagreements would be what an at risk group (I am a member) has the right to expect from the rest of the population. Never in history have The governments around the world, in union with mega corporations like google, obtained so much power over the people as happened during covid. That and the increased concentration of wealth among the top 1/2 of 1%.
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:06 PM
I was pregnant in my 30's. I was working full time in a print shop. Moving cases of paper, on my feet the entire day. Yes I used disposable diapers. I had my own credit and worked from full time from 21 to retirement/caregiving in my 50s. That changed back in the 1960s and 1970s.
I give the dancers credit for the sync, the song was impossible to hear over the band, and the costumes in general were awful.
Not a football fan - but I used to look forward to the commercials and halftime. Now it has become just something to mute and chat over. The audience is multi-generational how about something coordinated so all generations could find something enjoyable?
There was no "band", nor did she sing live. They entire thing was pre-recorded and she lip sync'ed to the entire show...
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:09 PM
Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"! All young singers today do that, black, white, yellow or orange. If you have grandkids, you can bet your sweet *** they twerk, or try to. I didn't necessarily care for it either, but it's an AGE thing, not a COLOR thing.
Um, not "all young singers" by any stretch of the imagination...
But I'll agree with you on the "raciest" part...
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:14 PM
The last 3 Super Bowls consisted of Beyonce, J-Lo and Rhianna all soft porn performances. All POC and all women, is this there definition of equality?
The fly over was all women and they needed to remind us of it.
We also had a fake black national anthem.
80 % of the players are black and 75% of the fans are white.
Closer to 57% and 37%... But whatever...
The NFL is tone deaf and need to bring back at the very least some rock bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers
You had me until you suggested the RHCP... barf
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:16 PM
Halftime show was mediocre at best. Needed to go back to the best one ever. The Who.
https://youtu.be/ScA2FqJn9ic
The best ever was Prince... In a downpour... Singing LIVE!
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:22 PM
"Yeah...you are being just slightly "raciest"!"
Yeah, there's a lot of that going around...in this thread alone.
A lot? Not really... Saying you don't like a singer or a style of music isn't "raciest"...
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:26 PM
My -#1 granddaughter had a good take on it: People in generations past became famous because they could sing. Today, people who are famous, TRY to sing.
I think she's on to something there...
Sad thing is... Rihanna CAN sing... She just didn't do it Sunday night...
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:29 PM
Wow what an entire bunch of haters.. so sorry it wasn't Lawrence Welk....
She's an amazing singer with a record of winning Grammy's. The stage was fantastic as was the production.
Sometimes I'm still amazed at the way people can be so mean.
The staging/production was amazing.
The "singing" was fake... She looked like she was mailing it in (to me...)
IMHO, if you're gonna' SING at the Super Bowl, you should "SING" at the Super Bowl...
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:32 PM
They need to bring back a great rock and roll show, like maybe Reunited original Grand Funk Railroad!!
I hear they're "An American Band"! ;)
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:50 PM
....yes, and it was fun to watch the outrage after because of the silhouette of his guitar which looked like a giant phallus.
Your's must look a lot different than mine... :1rotfl:
https://media.guestofaguest.com/t_article_content/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/prince_superbowl1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7NN3gsSf-Ys/maxresdefault.jpg
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:52 PM
I agree but the news said the half time show with Rihanna got more people watching it, 118.7 million & the actual Super Bowl only got 113.?, they must have had more people under the age of 40 to 45 watching the half time show. Go figure!
So, people who weren't watching the game, suddenly tuned in at halftime?
How did they know to turn in if they weren't watching the game?
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 04:53 PM
Why not bring back the days of tha marching bands? They could incorporate the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine marching bands to put on a terrific half time show!
I demand they bring back "Up with People"! :jester:
Kenswing
02-16-2023, 04:59 PM
What is it about guys named Jim and the need to rattle off ten posts in a row? lol
JMintzer
02-16-2023, 05:10 PM
What is it about guys named Jim and the need to rattle off ten posts in a row? lol
What is it about guys named Ken who are so obsessed with with counting other people's posts?
Are you related to Bogie Shooter?
Shimpy
02-16-2023, 05:30 PM
The last thing I want to see is a pregnant woman dressed in red, twerking, much less all the others in white twerking and making other lewd motions. Discussing!
I had to ask Siri what twerking was.
collie1228
02-16-2023, 06:37 PM
Bad lip synch - the words were blaring but the mic was on her hip. Check out Lewis Black's old rant on YouTube about Aerosmith and NSinc at the Super Bowl. Priceless, and could have been ranted in 2023.
jimjamuser
02-16-2023, 07:29 PM
While it is more depressing to see a veteran police officer step on a citizens rights, I would propose that the younger ones tend to be less knowledgeable about the law and peoples rights.
As for more socially responsible officers, I am unsure as to what that means. I would think it means someone who is not harmful to society. Can you clarify for me what a socially responsible police officer would be?
My quote was "YOUNGER more socially responsible" Officer candidates. It's just basic. Younger people in general tend to be more in tune to the NEEDS of All OF SOCIETY. It has been that way,in general, throughout History. For example, after WW2, Black G.I. came home with Caucasian wives because in Germany and France people thought of Blacks as EQUALS. Also, Blacks came home realizing that the whole world was NOT prejudiced against them like in the US. They learned social and cultural evolution. Each generation, basically, moves FORWARD. There are some times of backwardation, but, basically, the arc of History moves FORWARD toward the betterment of humanity.
..... So in this case, each NEW and younger generation of Police Officers (and everyone) IS MORE socially responsible.
.........The future IS SO BRIGHT that young people today MUST wear shades!!!!!!!!!
jimjamuser
02-16-2023, 07:35 PM
First you complain about a "performer" rubbing her genitals and sniffing her finger, next you will complain about people looting, stealing, and defecating in the street. So very old of you. Get with the times and learn to embrace such behaviour, lest you be labeled outdated and intolerant.
Got to love a good G - sniffer.
Bogie Shooter
02-16-2023, 07:39 PM
What is it about guys named Ken who are so obsessed with with counting other people's posts?
Are you related to Bogie Shooter?
Hey, keep me out of your little &issn contest………
I just report the facts!
jimjamuser
02-16-2023, 07:51 PM
We most likely do disagree on many aspects of covid and the risks it posed/poses. I think one of those disagreements would be what an at risk group (I am a member) has the right to expect from the rest of the population. Never in history have The governments around the world, in union with mega corporations like google, obtained so much power over the people as happened during covid. That and the increased concentration of wealth among the top 1/2 of 1%.
Well we do AGREE BIG TIME about the dangers posed by increased wealth in the hands of ONLY a small % of the people. That is the very definition of a Putin-like dictatorship. when America was REALLY GREAT (after WW2 til 1975) the rich were taxed with tax brackets such that a top-heavy (dictatorship in waiting) elite class would NOT EMERGE. Today , unfortunately, they have EMERGED.......we are screwed, blued, and tattooed !
.......The cost and flaunting of money and power of advertisements and TV and entertainment and celebrities at the Super Bowl would probably approximately equate favorably with the pomp and ceremony associated with the Roman Coliseum somewhat before the fall of THEIR empire.
jimjamuser
02-16-2023, 07:56 PM
What is it about guys named Jim and the need to rattle off ten posts in a row? lol
The urge to merge and the need for speed. And one Jim may be a John? Not that I give a flying fickle finger!
JMintzer
02-17-2023, 08:53 AM
My quote was "YOUNGER more socially responsible" Officer candidates. It's just basic. Younger people in general tend to be more in tune to the NEEDS of All OF SOCIETY. It has been that way,in general, throughout History. For example, after WW2, Black G.I. came home with Caucasian wives because in Germany and France people thought of Blacks as EQUALS. Also, Blacks came home realizing that the whole world was NOT prejudiced against them like in the US. They learned social and cultural evolution. Each generation, basically, moves FORWARD. There are some times of backwardation, but, basically, the arc of History moves FORWARD toward the betterment of humanity.
..... So in this case, each NEW and younger generation of Police Officers (and everyone) IS MORE socially responsible.
.........The future IS SO BRIGHT that young people today MUST wear shades!!!!!!!!!
There are "younger" officers in EVERY SINGLE CADET CLASS...
Same as it ever was...
JMintzer
02-17-2023, 08:54 AM
Hey, keep me out of your little &issn contest………
I just report the facts!
Sure... That's the reason you report post counts...
ThirdOfFive
02-17-2023, 09:17 AM
What is it about guys named Jim and the need to rattle off ten posts in a row? lol
Discussion.
Board.
PugMom
02-17-2023, 09:33 AM
Would bet most of the people watching are females who are there for halftime show and commercials and many leave as soon as halftime is over.
i watched only because i had no choice, lol. i was outnumbered!
fdpaq0580
02-17-2023, 10:13 AM
i watched only because i had no choice, lol. i was outnumbered!
You couldn't go lock yourself in the bathroom? My sympathy.
Bogie Shooter
02-17-2023, 11:14 AM
Sure... That's the reason you report post counts...
No it’s really to point out that you have so many opinions………..🤦
Bogie Shooter
02-17-2023, 11:15 AM
Discussion.
Board.
:1rotfl:
JMintzer
02-17-2023, 12:03 PM
No it’s really to point out that you have so many opinions………..🤦
Said the guy with over 17 THOUSAND posts...
Bogie Shooter
02-17-2023, 01:00 PM
Said the guy with over 17 THOUSAND posts...
Yep, in 15 years. 3.35/day
And you 7 thousand in 2 years. 9.51/ day
Laker14
02-17-2023, 02:07 PM
Said the guy with over 17 THOUSAND posts...
Yep, in 15 years. 3.35/day
And you 7 thousand in 2 years. 9.51/ day
But who's counting?
JMintzer
02-17-2023, 04:29 PM
But who's counting?
I know of one person...
JMintzer
02-17-2023, 04:30 PM
Yep, in 15 years. 3.35/day
And you 7 thousand in 2 years. 9.51/ day
I'm sure you were more prolific when you first joined, as well...
What do they say about those in glass houses?
Veiragirl
02-18-2023, 09:01 AM
Maybe I am getting up in age, but the Super Bowl Half Time Show, I think
was far less than great.
Lots of dancers.
But maybe I could understand 5 or 6 words from all the songs belted out.
Anyone else have that issue??
We loved it!
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