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bsloan1960
02-22-2023, 01:28 PM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks

JP
02-22-2023, 01:41 PM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks

I have Blink cameras here that are linked to other houses I own here and up north. Simple to set up, super clear and cost effective. I think they charge for cloud storage now but mine are all grandfathered in for free because I was an early user.

villagetinker
02-22-2023, 02:08 PM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks

We had a minor surge in crime when we first moved into what was a new area (9 years ago), I did install cameras but all are inside, all are WIRED, I do not like systems that can be hacked. After the first 6 months this area has been very quiet. The other item to consider, if and when you have the house pressure washed, any electronic item not rated for 2500 PSI can be damaged, been there done that, I now do my own pressure washing.
So to answer your question, unless you have a spare $2000 to $5000 laying around, I would not go for the outdoor cameras. The Sumter county police also conduct security reviews of the houses, we did this and made several changes.

Spalumbos62
02-22-2023, 03:17 PM
We have an outside ring camera, not any inside ones of course bc we do rent the house out.
They are a god send....we had one renter that did allot of damage to our home and had we had the camera at the time we could have seen all the "growing" supplies he was carting into the house.
But regardless of that, renters or not, it's still nice to be up north at our other home and watch for incoming storms, or if the lawn was cut or even if that neighbors free roaming dog is jumping up on our cart again at night.
So yes, well worth the money.
One other thing it's good for, when my daughter heads down for a week alone I can see that she has safely arrived.

Papa_lecki
02-22-2023, 03:55 PM
Why would anyone share the details of their security system on the internet?

blueash
02-22-2023, 05:01 PM
I see a trend so far. those here full time see no need and those who are part time want to watch things from afar.

mjr0773
02-22-2023, 05:14 PM
I have them on the exterior (Blink cameras) and have found them useful. We will be moving there fulltime veey soon so probably wont find them as needed soon. I have found things that needed attention. Even an ambulance at our front door...I called neighborhood watch and they were at the wrong house and immediately scurried down the street to the right address.

village dreamer
02-22-2023, 05:23 PM
i have 4 wired cameras, 2 outside and 2 inside. i got them at Bj's for about $400. i love them, we can see the front of house on the monitors at all times. it records on a loop for 30days. best $400 spent.

skippy05
02-23-2023, 05:10 AM
From real personal experience, I can tell you it depends on what you want to get from having cameras. If you feel better being able to see around your house at night so you can call the cops if someone is truly on your property, then yes a system would do as expected. However, if you think that it would be useful after your house has been burglarized in order to help capture the person, then you'd better think twice. If that were to happen, there is a high chance that later they or a friend would come back to your house for revenge. This happened to me and they spray-painted the entire inside of the house and broke everything in sight. I'd never go that route again myself. I'd move to another area with fewer problems. The Villages is not a real gated community. Any press of the red button and any clown is riding around inside. There are safer areas and areas that are next door to communities with drug teenage addiction problems that are only getting worse with time. No amount of cameras or neighborhood watch problems are going to stop the drug addicts from petty crime in order to fuel their out-of-control addictions.

banjobob
02-23-2023, 05:56 AM
I have a security camera system , do I feel it’s needed, no but it is fun to play with seeing deliveries ,trash pickups neighbors walking or spying on dog when not home.

ThirdOfFive
02-23-2023, 05:56 AM
You won’t need them—until you do. And if they’re not up and functioning at that time, it is too late.

We have an “Arlo” security camera system, 4 cameras total, motion activated. They don’t record unless they detect motion but then they record both video and audio. We can also talk in real time to whomever is activating the camera. Gets some pretty interesting reactions. It is an older system (came with us from Minnesota) but it functions well. The only gripe is that as it is wireless we have to charge the cameras and it takes a good three hours per camera to do that.

We have a couple of short-term rentals in our neighborhood (rumor has it Airb&bs) and now and again younger folks show up. Neighbors are fine, but with people you don’t know moving in for a few days at a time—well, better safe than sorry.

lpkruege1
02-23-2023, 06:02 AM
Wyze cameras work great and are inexpensive. They can be accessed remotely, be set up to record to the cloud or a Mico memory stick or both. There is a monthly charge if you want to record to the cloud for more than 12 seconds. The pan plus for the inside and outside I would use the Cam V3. They work great in the garage, Lania, and you can point them out the front window to keep them from getting wet. Wyze does make a Water rated model for outside. They are all wireless for the internet, but wired for power. It does take a 2.4Ghz connection to your router. They are easy to set up and if you watch their video, it's a snap. If you have Xfinity you will have to ask them to set your wireless router up for 5 and 2.4 Ghz. They can do it remotely. The Ring and the Blink I believe have to be 2.4 Ghz too. Just like a remote garage door opener or thermostat.

Maker
02-23-2023, 06:17 AM
Best is a layered system. Several different technologies overlapping. Using wired cameras, wireless cameras, door/window open/closed sensors, motion detection, driveway/walkway detection of people/car, glass breakage sound detection, smoke/fire/co alarm integration, water leak sensors ... Then local storage, cloud storage, email/text alerts... UPS where possible, wired internet, and for the paranoid backup 5g cell internet.
Do not disclose what you have, where it might be positioned, or brag about only spending $50 for it all. Consider generic security system sticker (instead of a specific brand) if you feel disclosing information is useful.
Position your cameras so they have overlapping coverage. Put some up high, others low. Have some totally hidden. If you have a camera DVR put it into a metal box that is bolted down.
Be aware that wireless systems can be jammed. Cameras and DVRs can be stolen too (evidence taken with them), so consider having footage stored in the camera, on DVR, and offsite in the cloud.
Make sure the system detects the right things, but does not generate false alarms.

HospitalCoder
02-23-2023, 06:42 AM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks

I set up cameras in a bedroom window at the front of the house with a view of the driveway. When I’m waiting to be picked up or waiting for a service person, I open the app and can see when someone arrives. I also have a camera in the kitchen window with a view of the back gate. I keep the gate locked but it makes me feel safer. Lastly, I have a camera in our screened porch and can see out to the yard. All the cameras were really inexpensive yet extremely helpful.

midiwiz
02-23-2023, 07:06 AM
Why would anyone share the details of their security system on the internet?

You have to remember it's TV, the most sought after market in the world..... by hackers.

LarryD
02-23-2023, 07:34 AM
We have the Ring system with the Ring camera door bell, and several outdoor cameras to keep tabs of our entryways and garage. They work well and integrate easily with Amazon Alexa. The wireless camera with a small solar panel is great if you do not have A/C power in certain spots.

olliesnorth@aol.com
02-23-2023, 07:44 AM
I have Blink cameras here that are linked to other houses I own here and up north. Simple to set up, super clear and cost effective. I think they charge for cloud storage now but mine are all grandfathered in for free because I was an early user.
On the question are cameras, a waste of money. If you ever need one, you would be glad they’re there.

airstreamingypsy
02-23-2023, 07:51 AM
We have the Ring system with the Ring camera door bell, and several outdoor cameras to keep tabs of our entryways and garage. They work well and integrate easily with Amazon Alexa. The wireless camera with a small solar panel is great if you do not have A/C power in certain spots.

Hi Larry, I have Alexa.... what does the Ring system do with Alexa?

wlasowicz
02-23-2023, 07:55 AM
I have a Ring solar power camera outside my rental in The Villages I have it mainly to have some eyes on the place to see what's going on since I'm in upstate NY. Also to make sure the tenants are honest so I know that if I'm renting for 2 people that 6 aren't living there. Any future cameras I am going to want local storage I don't like the idea to pay for cloud storage for video that I mostly keep for a few days anyways. Also with local storage it will still record if you have a solar powered camera because if you lose power or internet you won't have cloud recording. I feel theses camera & security companies over hype the sense of protection. Yes you will be able to see someone breaking in on the camera but in most cases the smart thieves will be wearing mask so you can't tell who it is and they will be in and out of your place before the cops show up

GoneFishing
02-23-2023, 08:04 AM
Wyze cameras work great and are inexpensive. They can be accessed remotely, be set up to record to the cloud or a Mico memory stick or both. There is a monthly charge if you want to record to the cloud for more than 12 seconds. The pan plus for the inside and outside I would use the Cam V3. They work great in the garage, Lania, and you can point them out the front window to keep them from getting wet. Wyze does make a Water rated model for outside. They are all wireless for the internet, but wired for power. It does take a 2.4Ghz connection to your router. They are easy to set up and if you watch their video, it's a snap. If you have Xfinity you will have to ask them to set your wireless router up for 5 and 2.4 Ghz. They can do it remotely. The Ring and the Blink I believe have to be 2.4 Ghz too. Just like a remote garage door opener or thermostat.

I also have Wyze cameras on both my TV house and house up North. I have added other Wyze equipment too like solar panel to charge wireless cameras, wireless door lock that can be opened and closed from anywhere. I also installed a Wyze garage door system that lets me open and close the door from anywhere. System also alerts when door is opened or closed.

Vermilion Villager
02-23-2023, 08:43 AM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks
Unless you want to see who's dog is pooping in your yard, investing hundreds or thousands of dollars in a security camera for a home in the villages is money not well spent. My $.02:mornincoffee:

maistocars
02-23-2023, 08:57 AM
We have Wyze cameras as well. Excellent!

Beyonce
02-23-2023, 09:08 AM
I use a ring doorbell camera. Located inside my glasses in lanai. It shows me a wide view in the front entry area of my home. I can keep an eye on things. I get motion alerts and a video of anyone who approaches the area. Cost is about $36. Per year plus internet connection is necessary . I really like this convenience.

Nucky
02-23-2023, 09:14 AM
In the immortal words of sports caster Warner Wolf, let’s go to the video tape. We always have Oudoor Cameras, always because you can’t argue a point if you’ve got someone stone cold doing something wrong on your property! You can’t see them unless you have a highly trained eye. I don’t advertise with a protected by sign either. I feel extremely safe in The Villages compared to where we came from.
Our last Villages home was blasted by a dog and instead of being a worm I asked the suspected perp if he was guilty. I got a response that he was insulted that I would make an accusation like that.
Fast forward about two weeks, I repositioned the camera in the Palm Tree and presented a week of evidence to The Bad Guy! I included the evidence with the video footage! He didn’t know whether to Beep or go Blind! He was a speechless little bit(+. Cameras are the start of setting all scores. Do it and get the best you can afford! Colombo, over and out!

nordic tug
02-23-2023, 09:14 AM
Looking for feedback on if outdoor cameras are a waste of money, or if they have been useful in TV environment.

We have a security system up North without cameras. Will be buying a new system when we move to TV in a few months.

Thanks

I use WYZE camera’s here with 4 installed to monitor the front, back and inside the house. They plug into an outlet, no batteries to worry about and can be placed indoors or outside with all the features of more expensive. They’re about $30 each connect to your phone , iPad have play back, zoom etc , I mounted all of mine inside with good viewing of front and back yards. They have option of SIM cards for play back instead of monthly/ yearly service charges. You can find them on the internet.

JMintzer
02-23-2023, 09:31 AM
Unless you want to see who's dog is pooping in your yard, investing hundreds or thousands of dollars in a security camera for a home in the villages is money not well spent. My $.02:mornincoffee:

I put a regular SimplySafe alarm system in my home, so adding a camera was relatively cheap...

RickyLee
02-23-2023, 09:46 AM
You won’t need them—until you do. And if they’re not up and functioning at that time, it is too late.

We have an “Arlo” security camera system, 4 cameras total, motion activated. They don’t record unless they detect motion but then they record both video and audio. We can also talk in real time to whomever is activating the camera. Gets some pretty interesting reactions. It is an older system (came with us from Minnesota) but it functions well. The only gripe is that as it is wireless we have to charge the cameras and it takes a good three hours per camera to do that.

We have a couple of short-term rentals in our neighborhood (rumor has it Airb&bs) and now and again younger folks show up. Neighbors are fine, but with people you don’t know moving in for a few days at a time—well, better safe than sorry.


Arlo solar charging, they work fantastic & have used them for a few years, replaced 1 of 3 chargers in 3 or 4 years. Still have to charge inside unit every few weeks

Deden
02-23-2023, 10:29 AM
Get a solar panel

I'm Popeye!
02-23-2023, 11:01 AM
Unless you want to see who's dog is pooping in your yard, investing hundreds or thousands of dollars in a security camera for a home in the villages is money not well spent. My $.02:mornincoffee:

Or how about catching that person breaking into your property?
Stealing your package from your front door?
Or, Someone peeking into your window?
Ect, etc.. but you want to bring up Dog-Poo! :rolleyes:

dewilson58
02-23-2023, 12:43 PM
We have Wyze cameras as well. Excellent!

Very inexpensive, integrated, records, notifies, two-way communicates and lighting available.

Don't have to spend $1,000.

:ho:

Barborv
02-23-2023, 05:20 PM
Love my Blink cameras. Can see every time I get a delivery, someone stopping by or what's creeping around at night, etc.

jayteadunn
02-23-2023, 11:13 PM
So far the only benefit to outdoor cameras for us is periodically catching service people claiming they provided the service when they didn't Caught the pool guy sitting in his truck (which has gps) in front of the house for 30 minutes never leaving their truck but claiming the service work was done. Once we put camera warning stickers on the lanai the service has been superb.

Sandy and Ed
02-24-2023, 06:13 AM
Best is a layered system. Several different technologies overlapping. Using wired cameras, wireless cameras, door/window open/closed sensors, motion detection, driveway/walkway detection of people/car, glass breakage sound detection, smoke/fire/co alarm integration, water leak sensors ... Then local storage, cloud storage, email/text alerts... UPS where possible, wired internet, and for the paranoid backup 5g cell internet.
Do not disclose what you have, where it might be positioned, or brag about only spending $50 for it all. Consider generic security system sticker (instead of a specific brand) if you feel disclosing information is useful.
Position your cameras so they have overlapping coverage. Put some up high, others low. Have some totally hidden. If you have a camera DVR put it into a metal box that is bolted down.
Be aware that wireless systems can be jammed. Cameras and DVRs can be stolen too (evidence taken with them), so consider having footage stored in the camera, on DVR, and offsite in the cloud.
Make sure the system detects the right things, but does not generate false alarms.
Great advice. That’s what I did. Unfortunately the thieves wore masks, worked fast and made off with all my equipment. My two Doberman Pincher attack dogs were too busy eating the treats they left

Tomas
02-24-2023, 08:00 AM
You buy a security camera to watch around your home, but do not buy it and think you will be stopping someone from stealing. Might aid police or others by having a picture of the person. That helps once in a while. You can look at WYZE they have an SD card for storage, made for outside (not for pressure washers) and you can buy the cloud if you want but do not have to. About $30 and home depot has them. Or look for others that have SD card for storage so you don't pay for cloud storage.

BlueStarAirlines
02-24-2023, 08:35 AM
So to answer your question, unless you have a spare $2000 to $5000 laying around, I would not go for the outdoor cameras.

My outdoor cameras were $800 with a base station. Those prices sound like they were bought from Galaxy.

Lottoguy
02-24-2023, 09:45 AM
Just because it's a camera that says outdoors doesn't mean it's waterproof. Make sure...

Lottoguy
02-24-2023, 09:50 AM
Right now for just around $30.00 you can get a lightbulb camera. They just screw in on any outside socket. Easy to install and they work great. Just make sure it is waterproof.

Miboater
02-24-2023, 04:24 PM
Hi Larry, I have Alexa.... what does the Ring system do with Alexa?

Ring works seamlessly with Alexa. I have a Alexa Show in my kitchen and if someone comes to my front door, Alexa will alert and display the doorbell camera live view so I can see who is there. I can also have the Show display live views of the my outdoor cameras. It works great and I don't have to use my Ring app on my phone all the time.

Freehiker
02-24-2023, 07:44 PM
I have 6 cameras installed around the exterior of my home. I would never have a place without them. I use all UniFi equipment.

CoachKandSportsguy
02-24-2023, 08:26 PM
We have a Google Nest outdoor camera, somewhat out of sight, and it took the renter about 2-3 weeks before he noticed it. . . i wired the power from an outlet, and the camera is wireless and stores motion activated video in the cloud. .

Bought it at Home Depot / Lowes. . . i can't remember. . but only a couple of 100 bucks at the most. . . like $5 a month for cloud storage. . .

Have one at my moms house as well, captures great wildlife around the house, foxes, deer, bears, coyotes, skunks, o'possums. . . but missed the septic tank back hoe as it backed into the driveway and across the yard. . . :undecided:

I'm Popeye!
02-24-2023, 10:34 PM
it took the renter about 2-3 weeks before he noticed it. . . i wired the power from an outlet, and the camera is wireless and stores motion activated video in the cloud. .



So, your renters are paying the electric bill for a camera that is spying on them.. :shocked:

Freehiker
02-25-2023, 06:21 AM
So, your renters are paying the electric bill for a camera that is spying on them.. :shocked:

Hopefully it was outside the house and not inside……

JGibson
02-25-2023, 06:57 AM
I NRA sign outside may be equally effective.

This is a slippery slope because I have a neighborhood that has a camera affixed to point right at my front door. It's a little creepy and intrusive as it can be used in a malicious way, especially if renters has access to video footage.

But by law you have no expectancy of privacy in public even if it's outside your front door.

Bay Kid
02-25-2023, 07:32 AM
So far the only benefit to outdoor cameras for us is periodically catching service people claiming they provided the service when they didn't Caught the pool guy sitting in his truck (which has gps) in front of the house for 30 minutes never leaving their truck but claiming the service work was done. Once we put camera warning stickers on the lanai the service has been superb.

I got a new roof a couple of years ago. The roofer said he wasn't responsible for any damage to the gutters, but they would be careful. My camera caught them beating the gutters off the house. Because of having him on camera they replaced my gutters.

JMintzer
02-25-2023, 08:07 AM
So, your renters are paying the electric bill for a camera that is spying on them.. :shocked:

Hopefully it was outside the house and not inside……

We have a Google Nest outdoor camera, somewhat out of sight, and it took the renter about 2-3 weeks before he noticed it. . .

I'm Popeye!
02-25-2023, 10:01 AM
We have a Google Nest outdoor camera, somewhat out of sight, and it took the renter about 2-3 weeks before he noticed it. . .

It's capturing the renters on the property they PRIVATELY rented, not knowing they were being filmed.
Do YOU know people sometimes sunbathe on private property, hopefully not having a camera zooming up their &*% and being viewed 100s of miles away. :ho:

JMintzer
02-25-2023, 12:59 PM
It's capturing the renters on the property they PRIVATELY rented, not knowing they were being filmed.
Do YOU know people sometimes sunbathe on private property, hopefully not having a camera zooming up their &*% and being viewed 100s of miles away. :ho:

You have quite the VIVID imagination...

I'm Popeye!
02-25-2023, 01:30 PM
You have quite the VIVID imagination...

No. Just a good commend scene to educate those who are kind of a little gullible..

Bay Kid
02-26-2023, 08:03 AM
Has anyone used OptiGuard Security Camera? It just screws into a light socket.

Bilyclub
02-26-2023, 08:42 AM
Eufy is an easy fix with no monthly fees. Only drawback is the cameras record only when/if motion triggered.

CoachKandSportsguy
02-26-2023, 08:53 AM
It's capturing the renters on the property they PRIVATELY rented, not knowing they were being filmed.
Do YOU know people sometimes sunbathe on private property, hopefully not having a camera zooming up their &*% and being viewed 100s of miles away. :ho:

yep, the camera was cleared with all concerned as acceptable, and there is no indoor camera. . . so i don't want to be too specific but if the camera caught sunbathing, so would the sand cranes, the local traffic, the golf carts, the neighbors. . . . .

islandtiempo
04-13-2023, 07:16 AM
Excellent suggestions. Thank you!

samquiros
04-13-2023, 12:18 PM
I use Blink cameras in my North Carolina cabin, and I love them because the battery lasts over a year (2 x AAs) and they are easy to mount anywhere. In TV I decided to go with Ring as part of a whole house security system. I have two outdoor cameras plus the ring doorbell. The outside cameras use solar panels and batteries, and so far they've worked great. I have another property in Tampa where I use Nest, but those are hardwired. Nest does have battery options, but Blink wins on that department due to the batteries lasting such a long time. I've also used Arlo, and those batteries lasted about a month. Not a fan.

FFlank
04-13-2023, 03:15 PM
Most of the systems have been adequately covered, but I thought I'd add my two cents regarding Blink. I've had it for about six months. I'm not yet living in TV, and the area I'm in has occasional porch pirates, so my main reason for getting the system was to be alerted whenever the mail comes or a package is delivered, so I can retrieve it before it runs away. It does a decent job, but anyone looking to buy Blink should know about some shortcomings. It comes with a free thirty day trial subscription. As others have noted, you don't have to pay when the thirty days is up, and you can choose to simply store your video on a USB drive, which is the route I chose after the thirty days was up. The main drawback of the system is that Amazon has essentially crippled the most useful features of it if you don't subscribe. After letting the trial subscription lapse, I noticed that when I get a motion alert on my iphone, it now takes forever (ok, maybe 20 seconds, but it feels like forever) for the app to show you the live camera view...by that time, whatever triggered the motion is long gone. I then have to click on a button to pull up the actual saved video, and wait another twenty seconds for that to be pulled up. Eventually, I see that a package has been delivered. If you are a subscriber, you can tap on the notification and instantly see the live view. Blink even teases you during the 20 second wait by telling you that USB clips take "a little longer" . There's no real technological reason for this...it just seems like a way to get you to subscribe. Overall, I like the battery life and it suits my needs, but its drawbacks are unnecessary. Anyway, it's fine as long as you don't need/want instant access to the camera or video clip. Others may have a better experience with Blink.

MrChip72
04-14-2023, 12:07 AM
We have one camera over our garage that covers most of our front yard. It's not really for security, more like to verify that people doing services for us are actually showing up. I don't really see the benefit of someone adding 6 security cameras to a home in TV. Burglaries are almost non-existent and thieves know that it's rarely worth the trouble and risk anymore. Much more lucrative to rob a business that has cash on hand.

I think it shouldn't be understated how your neighbors will feel about having 6 cameras around your house with many of them pointing on their property. Most people don't really like that.