Did You Feel The Burn?

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Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

[Bill14564]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

With an average February high of 79 or “only” made it to 87. Yep, busted

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With an average February high of 79 or “only” made it to 87. Yep, busted

Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

[Bill14564]

Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

Verification data? For a weather report?!!

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Verification data? For a weather report?!!

Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.

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Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Six days ago NWS forecast Orlando would hit a high of 89, but that also busted with just 86. For some reason NWS still thinks earth is warming, even though satellite data shows otherwise. January data is very telling.

[MorTech]

Translation: You'll own nothing and be happy...OH!, and eat bugs.

[Sandy and Ed]

Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.
Now hold on there!! I know for a fact that the weatherman is 100% accurate when reporting yesterday’s weather today. Of course, yeah, it would be nice for him to explain why his weather prediction yesterday for today was in the toilet

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Translation: You'll own nothing and be happy...OH!, and eat bugs.

Bugs reminds me. I hear Panera has a "climate friendly" menu.

[MandoMan]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

But my thermometer here read 90°. It was quite warm.

[Larchap49]

Correct. Busted by 4 degrees -- far from a record. More importantly, news sources never provide verification data showing their error statistics. In fact, if you look at the past few years of verification data, the error bias is far to the hot side, just like the climate models.

That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control

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But my thermometer here read 90°. It was quite warm.

Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards (https://www.weather.gov/coop/sitingpolicy2)

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That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control

Research also shows there are at least 100 glaciers not melting and even growing. Otherwise, glaciers are taking up valuable land which could be used for better purposes -- like more solar panels and wind turbines.

[Mazjaz]

The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.

[RUCdaze]

The BIG lie: Global warming, promoted by The New World Order for control of the masses. Idiot sheeple buy into this.

[Taltarzac725]

There is a whole lot more to it. The Great Climate Change Debate — Divided We Fall (https://dividedwefall.org/political-pen-pals-climate-change-scientist-vs-skeptic/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjPCb4eWw_QIVyytMCh2SAQc5EAAYAiA AEgIVnvD_BwE)

The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.

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The climate change hoax has been around for 50 years and people keep buying the kool aide.

And now they can buy "climate friendly" food at Paneras.

[loweglor]

Only 87? OMG, you just can't trust those weather people.

[Regorp]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.
Why not return to cave man weather prediction, walk out of cave, sun is shining, will be nice day for hunting.

[loweglor]

Climate change hoax? Enjoy your Kool Ade.

[loweglor]

No data to support global warming. Seriously? I'm curious as to where you get your info. Get over your fear of the term "global warming" and do some real research. Compare the ice caps 100 years ago to today and then look at how quickly they have melted in a shorter period of time in history. Just because you deny global warming doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Two Bills]

Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

[Wondering]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.
Don't you have anything better to do. with your time?

[kenoc7]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

No report that I saw linked the PREDICTED record temperature to CLIMATE change, which is real but has no meaning relative to one day of WEATHER.

[Lchughart@gmail.com]

Climate alarmists are costing us, trillions in wasted tax money, we all want clean, air and water, but what they’re doing is just trying to grab the power from all of us and control us, stop it!

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Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

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Climate change is real.
In my 80+ years on this earth, it is a fact the weather has changed.
Winters are warmer, summers are definitely getting drier, and extremes of wind and rain are quite noticeable.
The trillion dollar question?
Is it man made?

All answers on a separate piece of paper please!!:thumbup:

And then there's snow on the beach -- at where ??? ... https://twitter.com/TonyClimate/status/1629301830151979010

[Bill14564]

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

That's great news! For the past couple of years we've been reading about the droughts in the west, the Colorado river running slow, the reservoir level dropping, the Mississippi being low, ski resorts closing in Switzerland due to lack of snow, and ice fishing in New England in jeopardy due to lack of ice. In my personal experience I remember feet of snow in my backyard about 45 years ago but recently only one or two storms with less than 4 inches of snow. It is tremendously good to hear that all that is fake news!

[Windguy]

No data to support global warming. Seriously? I'm curious as to where you get your info. Get over your fear of the term "global warming" and do some real research. Compare the ice caps 100 years ago to today and then look at how quickly they have melted in a shorter period of time in history. Just because you deny global warming doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Don’t waste your time on these brainwashed idiots who watch their favorite propaganda station all the time. They don’t even know the difference between climate and weather and they’ve been fooled into thinking the fossil-fuel industry is less biased than people who have dedicated their lives to understanding climate. I can’t believe they actually think scientists have more to gain than the fossil-fuel industry.

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That's great news! For the past couple of years we've been reading about the droughts in the west, the Colorado river running slow, the reservoir level dropping, the Mississippi being low, ski resorts closing in Switzerland due to lack of snow, and ice fishing in New England in jeopardy due to lack of ice. In my personal experience I remember feet of snow in my backyard about 45 years ago but recently only one or two storms with less than 4 inches of snow. It is tremendously good to hear that all that is fake news!

And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.

[Bill14564]

And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.

??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???

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??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???

Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area (https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco-cold-record/3165929/)

[Escape Artist]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

I’m grateful for the winter weather this year, only a couple of nights near frost or freeze temps and a few windy/or cold days. The first winter I was here (last year) it was VERY cold and we had more rain than I expected for the “dry season”. People told me last year was unusual as it was one of the coldest winters they remembered in TV. The NOAA predictions had borne that out with their own model for Florida that year which had predicted a cold winter.

Temperatures, we are told, are not an indicator of climate change, hence changing the name of their theory from global warming to cc. Yet that hasn’t stopped climate alarmists pointing to severe or unusual weather in any season as proof.

[Bill14564]

Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area (https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco-cold-record/3165929/)

Another bogus claim that has been widely debunked.

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misleading-climate-change-graph-418146648172)

Viral Tweet Misrepresents NOAA Report on Rising Global Temperature | FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-viral-tweet-misrepresents-noaa-report-on-rising-global-temperature/)

2022 was world’s 6th-warmest year on record | NOAA (https://www.noaa.gov/news/2022-was-worlds-6th-warmest-year-on-record)

Climate deniers share cherry-picked data to falsely claim planet is cooling | RumorGaurd.org (https://www.rumorguard.org/post/climate-deniers-share-cherry-picked-data-to-falsely-claim-planet-is-cooling)

And also post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread.

[Carlsondm]

You are mistaking weather data for climate data. They are different critters.

Weather prediction is not an exact science. I personally find the predictions useful. Sometimes they are hilarious (wind chill warnings), but I laugh and really appreciate those meteorologists and weather reporters during hurricane season.

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Another bogus claim that has been widely debunked.

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misleading-climate-change-graph-418146648172)

Viral Tweet Misrepresents NOAA Report on Rising Global Temperature | FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-viral-tweet-misrepresents-noaa-report-on-rising-global-temperature/)

2022 was world’s 6th-warmest year on record | NOAA (https://www.noaa.gov/news/2022-was-worlds-6th-warmest-year-on-record)

Climate deniers share cherry-picked data to falsely claim planet is cooling | RumorGaurd.org (https://www.rumorguard.org/post/climate-deniers-share-cherry-picked-data-to-falsely-claim-planet-is-cooling)

And also post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread.

If you truly believe "Man" is causing global warming, then tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

[Bill14564]

If you truly believe "Man" is causing global warming, then tell me ... how much has "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year?

Argue that point in another thread. The links in the post you responded to simply show that the claim of a 7-year cooling trend is BS.

[Vermilion Villager]

Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards (https://www.weather.gov/coop/sitingpolicy2)

Hmmm.........Isn't this the same NOAA that you continually bash because they believe in....wait for it....
CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Verification data? For a weather report?!!
In some people's minds, it is more important than a crime report with the number of murders.

[jimjamuser]

Exactly right. That's called quality control. Otherwise they could lie all day long and no one would know the difference -- just like today's busted forecast -- which the news failed to report. Notice how much more these days they are forecasting record breaking temperatures. That was rare years ago. My mentor said never publicly forecast a record anything -- unless you have a proven track record -- otherwise you achieve a credibility problem.
Was that mentor a professor of mass insignificance?

[jimjamuser]

Six days ago NWS forecast Orlando would hit a high of 89, but that also busted with just 86. For some reason NWS still thinks earth is warming, even though satellite data shows otherwise. January data is very telling.
There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.

[jimjamuser]

There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.
I think that I feel the burn of being burnt by anti-SCIENCE.

[jimjamuser]

Bugs reminds me. I hear Panera has a "climate friendly" menu.
Yes, it is a special discounted menu for people that drive to Paneras in an E-vehicle, an E-bike, or walk.

[Djean1981]

Plants like CO2..

[jimjamuser]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.
Some people should spend their retirement years playing checkers to attain their maximum intellectual creativity.

[jimjamuser]

That's because their is no verification data to support global warming. Spend some of your valuable retirement time and research it. A few small glaciers in the northern hemisphere have receded but the ice pack in Antarctica is growing daily. The water levels that were supposed to flood islands in the south Pacific haven't moved in 30 years and very little in 1000 years. The research is available so stop listening to fake news and look it up. Also remember almost every item in your reach or sight that's not wood or metal comes from petroleum or is made by the use of it. Just on more hoax to get what THEY want and make more money and gain control
OK, now I see the grievous errors of my global warming ways. I see the light - praise the lords of TV Land climate science. I will begin to contact the 99% of scientists that are making a mistake by believing in Global Warming. Praise our TV Land Bubble saviors.

[jimjamuser]

Does your thermometer meet the NOAA siting standards ... in a proper shelter (or shade), about 5 feet above ground, at least 100 feet from pavement & buildings, and away from other obstructions like trees, fences etc ... Site and Exposure Standards (https://www.weather.gov/coop/sitingpolicy2)
I'll stick that thermometer 5 ft above ground.......to bad some are.

[jimjamuser]

Research also shows there are at least 100 glaciers not melting and even growing. Otherwise, glaciers are taking up valuable land which could be used for better purposes -- like more solar panels and wind turbines.
As the song goes, "like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind".

[jimjamuser]

I keep waiting for the commercial about the monthly meeting of the weather or NOT club.

[jimjamuser]

Climate change hoax? Enjoy your Kool Ade.
That IS a tricky post. The question mark means IS Climate Change a hoax? But then enjoy the kool ade (aka aid) means to question that it IS a hoax. ....................very confusing........needing a mind reader to interpret.

[jimjamuser]

Don't you have anything better to do. with your time?
Quite a good question. Soon we will get the monthly commercial about Weather Club Lunar lunacy.

[jimjamuser]

Climate alarmists are costing us, trillions in wasted tax money, we all want clean, air and water, but what they’re doing is just trying to grab the power from all of us and control us, stop it!
Just one big conspiracy theory with ALL 99% of Climate Scientists heavily sedated and drugged.

[jimjamuser]

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...
Oh, look, Rover, pretty colors.

[jimjamuser]

Don’t waste your time on these brainwashed idiots who watch their favorite propaganda station all the time. They don’t even know the difference between climate and weather and they’ve been fooled into thinking the fossil-fuel industry is less biased than people who have dedicated their lives to understanding climate. I can’t believe they actually think scientists have more to gain than the fossil-fuel industry.
True that ! Nice to read some sanity for a change.

[jimjamuser]

And there's the problem. People now talk about the WEST, when in reality, and climatologically, it is still the DESERT Southwest. Why are the lakes lowering ever faster ... any why are more people watering lawns in the middle of Deserts? And regarding less snow, etc ... well of course ... because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Get used to it. In the meantime, as the earth gets warmer, the air can hold more moisture -- and that's why, on a global scale, the climate is wetter. This is all in the climate history literature, which the media purposely avoids.
OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

[jimjamuser]

Now, what about ALL that CO2 in the ocean and the upper atmosphere? Gee, I need some more clarification on that!

[jimjamuser]

??? Climate is wetter because the earth is warmer which is why there is less snow during the cooling trend as we are thawing out. Do YOU even believe what you write???
That confused me a TINY bit. But I am sure that the holy grail of warming denial can recenter us.

[jimjamuser]

Yes, the "cooling" should have been worded "warming" ... it was chilly this morning ... and of course it was cooler than what was forecast. But, don't forget the current 7-year cooling trend, which San Francisco can attest to, as they just broke a 100-year cold record ... Cold San Francisco Sets New Record Low for Temperature – NBC Bay Area (https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco-cold-record/3165929/)
Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

[sounding]

Argue that point in another thread. The links in the post you responded to simply show that the claim of a 7-year cooling trend is BS.

And there you have it. You don't have an answer because there is no man-made climate change. Welcome to the world's greatest scam in history.

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Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

Show me the data.

[Bill14564]

And there you have it. You don't have an answer because there is no man-made climate change. Welcome to the world's greatest scam in history.

Haha! Nice try!

[sounding]

OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

The confusion comes from CNN and the likes. Yes, we are warming as we slowly thaw out from the Little Ice Age. During that thawing over the past 300+ years, there have been many ups and downs. Currently we are in the latest "down" or cooling period -- for 7 years now. It may continue going down and or it may later continue its thawing trend -- no one knows. But the important point is, as CO2 continues to skyrocket upwards, the global temperature sinks downwards. E.G., the man-made climate change narrative is a hoax -- a scam -- CO2 is not a control knob -- it's plant food.

[sounding]

Haha! Nice try!

Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.

[jimjamuser]

Plants like CO2..
True that, but large numbers of plants and forests like in the Amazon Rain forest have been plowed under such that plants can NOT ABSORB all the greater CO2 produced by ICE vehicles. Remember China is overcrowded and its middle class is buying more ICE vehicles. There IS EXCESS CO2 and the earth TRIES to store it in the oceans and upper atmosphere. In the upper atmosphere, it caused the reflection of heat waves and the earth WARMING. In the ocean, it kills the coral reefs.
...... The solution is to buy E-vehicles and E-bike, which MANY, MANY residents of TV Land are buying.

[Bill14564]

Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.

Let’s make this easier for you… if you want to have that discussion then start another thread.

In this thread I’m still waiting for you to explain how YOU are right about a 7-year cooling trend while so many others are calling BS on it.

[jimjamuser]

Ok, let's see if you can do what Al Gore is afraid to do ... identify how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year. This should be very easy to find, since so many actually know for sure that CO2 is a control knob. Hint ... there's a reason why no one can find the answer.
Al Gore - the favorite punching bag of the anti-Scientists.

[sounding]

True that, but large numbers of plants and forests like in the Amazon Rain forest have been plowed under such that plants can NOT ABSORB all the greater CO2 produced by ICE vehicles. Remember China is overcrowded and its middle class is buying more ICE vehicles. There IS EXCESS CO2 and the earth TRIES to store it in the oceans and upper atmosphere. In the upper atmosphere, it caused the reflection of heat waves and the earth WARMING. In the ocean, it kills the coral reefs.
...... The solution is to buy E-vehicles and E-bike, which MANY, MANY residents of TV Land are buying.

Again, you repeat propaganda with no supporting data. First question ... why do corals like to live in the world's warmest waters? Second question ... why did corals experience their greatest diversity when CO2 levels were much higher than today. Answer 1 ... corals love warmer waters. Answer 2 ... CO2 is food for coral reef creation ... more CO2 = bigger reefs. Here is some more info ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OMm88XQZoQ

[sounding]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

Hot Update. Seven days ago NOAA forecast record-breaking 91 degree heat for Orland on Feb 25. It only reached 87, but they did achieve their goal of perpetual alarmism for a non-problem.

[mtdjed]

Five days ago, weather channels nationwide screamed that on Feb 23 (today), Orlando would experience its first ever, record-breaking, February temperature of 91 degrees Fahrenheit -- thereby confirming man-made global warming. Busted. It only got up to 87 degrees. This is what happens when you force CO2 into weather models.

The whole concept of a one day record in Orlando confirming man-made global warming is the stuff of idiots. Even though it didn't happen, it makes no difference.

In February 2023 New England had record lows. Does that mean man-made global cooling is happening. No. Comments like the one stated in the OP stated source are meaningless. Single site lowest or highest temps recorded for a single day happen daily somewhere on this world and only on those spots measured. Please don't waste time trying to justify global trends on single data points.

The single site data below says it was damn cold. Nothing else.

Beyond Mount Washington’s mind-boggling wind chill of minus-108, the actual air temperature scored at the summit was minus-46.2 at minimum — a new February record for New Hampshire. That coincided with wind gusts topping 110 mph. The Weather Service office serving the area tweeted that the wind chill was so low that its software for logging such data “refuses to include it!”

[Two Bills]

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

Have you seen pictures of Venice or the Po River in Italy recently?

[sounding]

The whole concept of a one day record in Orlando confirming man-made global warming is the stuff of idiots. Even though it didn't happen, it makes no difference.

In February 2023 New England had record lows. Does that mean man-made global cooling is happening. No. Comments like the one stated in the OP stated source are meaningless. Single site lowest or highest temps recorded for a single day happen daily somewhere on this world and only on those spots measured. Please don't waste time trying to justify global trends on single data points.

The single site data below says it was damn cold. Nothing else.

Beyond Mount Washington’s mind-boggling wind chill of minus-108, the actual air temperature scored at the summit was minus-46.2 at minimum — a new February record for New Hampshire. That coincided with wind gusts topping 110 mph. The Weather Service office serving the area tweeted that the wind chill was so low that its software for logging such data “refuses to include it!”

Good information and more evidence of the 7-year cooling trend. Plus, many actually claim those record breaking cold events are "global warming" caused. Of course we know this is just more junk science, where even "the genius" John Holdren tried to go down that path ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSSOnJgPpY

[Bill14564]

Good information and more evidence of the 7-year cooling trend. Plus, many actually claim those record breaking cold events are "global warming" caused. Of course we know this is just more junk science, where even "the genius" John Holdren tried to go down that path ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSSOnJgPpY

Another bogus claim that has been widely debunked.

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misleading-climate-change-graph-418146648172)

Viral Tweet Misrepresents NOAA Report on Rising Global Temperature | FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-viral-tweet-misrepresents-noaa-report-on-rising-global-temperature/)

2022 was world’s 6th-warmest year on record | NOAA (https://www.noaa.gov/news/2022-was-worlds-6th-warmest-year-on-record)

Climate deniers share cherry-picked data to falsely claim planet is cooling | RumorGaurd.org (https://www.rumorguard.org/post/climate-deniers-share-cherry-picked-data-to-falsely-claim-planet-is-cooling)

And also post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread.

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In this thread I’m still waiting for you to explain how YOU are right about a 7-year cooling trend while so many others are calling BS on it.

... and still waiting.

[Two Bills]

... and still waiting.

Probably until Hell freezes over!:smiley:

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... and still waiting.

Here's the data -- paid for by our taxes ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt

[Bill14564]

Here's the data -- paid for by our taxes ... https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt

So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

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So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

[Bill14564]

You follow confirmation bias -- I follow data. Government data (both satellite and surface) temperature data show a 7-year cooling trend. Go ahead and plot the data, then show me your graph. What could go wrong?

Take a look at that Post #67 (can’t believe I’m writing that out again!), that is EXACTLY what I did

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So you didn't read ANY of the links debunking your claim.

Yes, that's the data... the data YOU choose to use... the data used in Post #67 (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2178150-post67.html) on the other thread to debunk your claim.

Proof by repetitive assertion is no proof at all. Your claim has been debunked by several sources using the data you present as evidence.

.... still waiting for you to explain how you are correct and all the other sources are wrong.

Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

[Bill14564]

Here's my graph of the satellite data, 7-year cooling trend. I don't see your graph -- please post again.

Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

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Last time I am going to write this: follow the link above to Post #67 on the other thread. If you still don’t see the image then unblock me and you will.

How did you graph the data? I used Excel.

[Bill14564]

How did you graph the data? I used Excel.

I know you did. That (using Excel) was how I was able to replicate your chart before creating mine.

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I know you did. That (using Excel) was how I was able to replicate your chart before creating mine.

Ok, now I see it -- below my graph. Thanks. Your graph shows the longer term warming trend, which started at the end of the Little Ice Age. Mine shows the shorter term 7-year cooling trend. Each tipping point has a starting point. Maybe the graph will later turn warmer again as the Little Ice Age thawing continues -- but no nobody knows. The important question is ... why the 7-year cooling while CO2 continues its upward track?

[Bill14564]

Ok, now I see it -- below my graph. Thanks. Your graph shows the longer term warming trend, which started at the end of the Little Ice Age. Mine shows the shorter term 7-year cooling trend. Each tipping point has a starting point. Maybe the graph will later turn warmer again as the Little Ice Age thawing continues -- but no nobody knows. The important question is ... why the 7-year cooling while CO2 continues its upward track?

There is no cooling trend. As explained in each of the links debunking that claim, the “trend” is a misunderstanding of data analysis or an intentional misrepresentation of the data.

You keep making the claim and I’ll keep posting the links to the debunking.

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There is no cooling trend. As explained in each of the links debunking that claim, the “trend” is a misunderstanding of data analysis or an intentional misrepresentation of the data.

You keep making the claim and I’ll keep posting the links to the debunking.

So why is there no warming for 7 years when CO2 keeps climbing?

[JMintzer]

In some people's minds, it is more important than a crime report with the number of murders.

Was that mentor a professor of mass insignificance?

There is that MYSTERY graph that appears every 3 weeks like a ghost of global warming deniers PAST.

I think that I feel the burn of being burnt by anti-SCIENCE.

Yes, it is a special discounted menu for people that drive to Paneras in an E-vehicle, an E-bike, or walk.

Some people should spend their retirement years playing checkers to attain their maximum intellectual creativity.

OK, now I see the grievous errors of my global warming ways. I see the light - praise the lords of TV Land climate science. I will begin to contact the 99% of scientists that are making a mistake by believing in Global Warming. Praise our TV Land Bubble saviors.

I'll stick that thermometer 5 ft above ground.......to bad some are.

As the song goes, "like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind".

I keep waiting for the commercial about the monthly meeting of the weather or NOT club.

That IS a tricky post. The question mark means IS Climate Change a hoax? But then enjoy the kool ade (aka aid) means to question that it IS a hoax. ....................very confusing........needing a mind reader to interpret.

Quite a good question. Soon we will get the monthly commercial about Weather Club Lunar lunacy.

Just one big conspiracy theory with ALL 99% of Climate Scientists heavily sedated and drugged.

Oh, look, Rover, pretty colors.

True that ! Nice to read some sanity for a change.

OK, now I get it. the EARTH is getting WARMER and that allows the air to store more moisture. But, there is NO Global Warming. Sure that makes sense. Now I understand.

Now, what about ALL that CO2 in the ocean and the upper atmosphere? Gee, I need some more clarification on that!

That confused me a TINY bit. But I am sure that the holy grail of warming denial can recenter us.

Oh contrair, it is an 8-year WARMING period.

That's gotta' be a record...

[Two Bills]

Wishful thinking is no substitute for data. Here is some from NOAA ...

Really not interested in any selective data from either side of the argument.
I know winters are warmer from a simple fact.
I have grown Dahlias all my working life, and 65 years ago you had to lift them before winter or they would not survive in the ground.
Been leaving them in the ground for at least last 10-15 years, and never lose any, unless a very wet winter, and a few may rot off.
Winters are warmer.
DATA from my garden!

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Really not interested in any selective data from either side of the argument.
I know winters are warmer from a simple fact.
I have grown Dahlias all my working life, and 65 years ago you had to lift them before winter or they would not survive in the ground.
Been leaving them in the ground for at least last 10-15 years, and never lose any, unless a very wet winter, and a few may rot off.
Winters are warmer.
DATA from my garden!

That "selective" data is important "recent" data which shows current, slight cooling. However, you are correct, because in the longer term, the winters are warmer. Everyone who attends the Weather Club knows that. (The public is being purposely kept in the dark about that.) The attached AMO (Atlantic Multi-decadal Index) shows the warming/cooling trends. The eastern U.S. is currently warmer than before ... and before that cooler ... and before that warmer -- it's a cycle. The western U.S. has been cooler because the Pacific (PDO) is cooling -- another cycle. Also, our summers are slowing cooling because of that PDO. All this (and more) to be discussed (again) at the next Weather Club meeting ... The Villages Weather Club (https://www.theweatherclubvillages.com/)