They came for Roald Dahl last week - this week they are coming for James Bond!

[Rainger99]

According to reports, the James Bond books are being edited to avoid offending people.

Report: James Bond Books Being Rewritten To Remove ‘Racist And Sexist’ Remarks – Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/02/27/report-james-bond-books-being-rewritten-to-remove-racist-and-sexist-remarks/)

[Keefelane66]

I’ve read the books seen the movies.

[Boomer]

I just read that the publisher of Roald Dahl’s books backed off after public backlash. That’s a good sign. But we don’t have enough good signs.

Book banning is coming from extremes on both sides.

This country has lost its collective mind.

I was glad to read though that teenagers are starting their own book clubs to read and discuss banned books.

More people need to be aware and to speak up.

Boomer

[bsloan1960]

I’ve read the books seen the movies.

To Kill a Mocking Bird, Huckleberry Finn, Dr. Seuss, Of Mice and Men, James and the Giant Peach, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Matilda....

[retiredguy123]

According to reports, the James Bond books are being edited to avoid offending people.

Report: James Bond Books Being Rewritten To Remove ‘Racist And Sexist’ Remarks – Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/02/27/report-james-bond-books-being-rewritten-to-remove-racist-and-sexist-remarks/)
This is all about publicity to sell books or promote an agenda. Almost nobody is reading James Bond books.

[Taltarzac725]

Dislike censorship. The works should stay close to what their original author's intended and not be whitewashed to fit some prude's desire about what it should say.

[dewilson58]

Dislike censorship. The works should stay close to what their original author's intended and not be whitewashed to fit some prude's desire about what it should say.

:bigbow:

[Caymus]

Who needs them? I can just have ChatGPT write a novel for me.:laugh:

[Stu from NYC]

I just read that the publisher of Roald Dahl’s books backed off after public backlash. That’s a good sign. But we don’t have enough good signs.

Book banning is coming from extremes on both sides.

This country has lost its collective mind.

I was glad to read though that teenagers are starting their own book clubs to read and discuss banned books.

More people need to be aware and to speak up.

Boomer

These fools are getting out of hand. If people do not like the words of the book not too hard to not read them.

[Keefelane66]

These fools are getting out of hand. If people do not like the words of the book not too hard to not read them.
Bond girls often have very unusual sounding names. In the early days of Bond, it was typical for many Bond girls to have names which were smutty double entendres, examples of these would include Honey Ryder, Pussy Galore, Plenty O'Toole, Chew Mee, Agent XXX, Dr. Goodhead, Onatopp and so on.

[Bogie Shooter]

I just read that the publisher of Roald Dahl’s books backed off after public backlash. That’s a good sign. But we don’t have enough good signs.

Book banning is coming from extremes on both sides.

This country has lost its collective mind.

I was glad to read though that teenagers are starting their own book clubs to read and discuss banned books.

More people need to be aware and to speak up.

Boomer

Theses thoughts could be applied to rewriting history books.

[Taltarzac725]

Theses thoughts could be applied to rewriting history books.

They do apply. Facts are facts no matter how much spin are put on them.

[Boomer]

These fools are getting out of hand. If people do not like the words of the book not too hard to not read them.


Exactly!

Boomer

[Taltarzac725]

King James Version - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version)

I minored in Religious Studies and found it interesting on how they translated The Bible to fit the views of the rulers who held sway over the interpreters.

[Stu from NYC]

Bond girls often have very unusual sounding names. In the early days of Bond, it was typical for many Bond girls to have names which were smutty double entendres, examples of these would include Honey Ryder, Pussy Galore, Plenty O'Toole, Chew Mee, Agent XXX, Dr. Goodhead, Onatopp and so on.

Very true but very often Bond girls were also heroines. Again who is being forced to read the books?

[Life as I know it]

They are trying to hide the truth. We need to let our children learn from our mistakes. It will help them learn what really happened and help them make their decisions based on facts.
Hiding our dirty secrets like the Church and Boy Scouts did hurt so many children. It’s a cruel sick world out there. Children were not allowed to question.
The truth will prepare them better to deal with life when they are able to question and hold accountable.

[Two Bills]

You wait for the screams when they/them, etc. start on the Bible.
Now there a book with more 'ists than all the others put together!

[RiderOnTheStorm]

According to reports, the James Bond books are being edited to avoid offending people.

Report: James Bond Books Being Rewritten To Remove ‘Racist And Sexist’ Remarks – Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/02/27/report-james-bond-books-being-rewritten-to-remove-racist-and-sexist-remarks/)


Does this mean that Pussy Galore is gone?

[dewilson58]

Does this mean that Pussy Galore is gone?

James, "I must be dreaming."

[bp243]

They are trying to hide the truth. We need to let our children learn from our mistakes. It will help them learn what really happened and help them make their decisions based on facts.
Hiding our dirty secrets like the Church and Boy Scouts did hurt so many children. It’s a cruel sick world out there. Children were not allowed to question.
The truth will prepare them better to deal with life when they are able to question and hold accountable.

Agree! Once you start publicly censoring what’s been acceptable regarding literature, there is no end. Someone will object. Intellectual thought is based on conversation about life as it exists. Surely we know what’s acceptable to read at various age levels in our schools. Teachers have been doing this forever. Censoring of literature is very authoritarian to do so in a public way to control intellectual discourse.

[augustnotes]

I just read that the publisher of Roald Dahl’s books backed off after public backlash. That’s a good sign. But we don’t have enough good signs.

Book banning is coming from extremes on both sides.

This country has lost its collective mind.

I was glad to read though that teenagers are starting their own book clubs to read and discuss banned books.

More people need to be aware and to speak up.

Boomer
Nazi Germany in the 1930's targeted books for burning whose viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism. Now let's replace the word Nazi for WOKE and history is repeating itself only this time it's not burning but rewriting literature to remove any opposition to the WOKE views. If people don't start standing up and saying enough is enough we will soon learn what life is like for the Chinese people. Freedom has never been free, but hard fought, yet today it seems like we are not fighting against an enemy of foreign soil. It is within our own boarders that we are giving up our capitalistic beliefs to follow a path of fascism in the name of equity. And now I hear that the government is putting traditional orthodox Catholics churches on watch list as radicals and I hope that I am wrong and it's just more of false media at work. As Pastor Martin Niemoller wrote: "They came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist, then they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist, then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist, then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew, then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me". People we need to wake up before it's too late.

[bark4me]

I just read that the publisher of Roald Dahl’s books backed off after public backlash. That’s a good sign. But we don’t have enough good signs.

Book banning is coming from extremes on both sides.

This country has lost its collective mind.

I was glad to read though that teenagers are starting their own book clubs to read and discuss banned books.

More people need to be aware and to speak up.

Boomer
Agreed! Yes, they have lost their minds. 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[Taltarzac725]

Nazi Germany in the 1930's targeted books for burning whose viewed as being subversive or as representing ideologies opposed to Nazism. Now let's replace the word Nazi for WOKE and history is repeating itself only this time it's not burning but rewriting literature to remove any opposition to the WOKE views. If people don't start standing up and saying enough is enough we will soon learn what life is like for the Chinese people. Freedom has never been free, but hard fought, yet today it seems like we are not fighting against an enemy of foreign soil. It is within our own boarders that we are giving up our capitalistic beliefs to follow a path of fascism in the name of equity. And now I hear that the government is putting traditional orthodox Catholics churches on watch list as radicals and I hope that I am wrong and it's just more of false media at work. As Pastor Martin Niemoller wrote: "They came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist, then they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist, then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist, then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew, then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me". People we need to wake up before it's too late.

Woke - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke)
Respecting African American history is very different from the white power propaganda put out by Hitler and his minions. And also not all like the hatred they directed at various unpopular groups like gays, Jewish, the mentally ill, gypsies, and physically challenged people.

[Taltarzac725]

Roald Dahl books to remain unchanged after censorship claims | EW.com (https://ew.com/books/roald-dahl-original-texts-available-after-censorship-criticism/)

Actually this just looks like a publisher trying to sell more books but getting a very bad idea about how to do it.

It is just someone's bad business idea. It has nothing to do with the WOKE movement about respect for African American history.

[Keefelane66]

Theses thoughts could be applied to rewriting history books.
History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon, truth or lies.

[tophcfa]

Does this mean that Pussy Galore is gone?

Say it isn’t so? Will Plenty O’toole, Jenny Flex, Mary Goodnight, Honey Ryder, Octopussy, and the esteemed Holly Goodhead all be going away with Ms. Galore? I’ll need a double, shaken, not stirred, if that happens.

[MandoMan]

According to reports, the James Bond books are being edited to avoid offending people.

Report: James Bond Books Being Rewritten To Remove ‘Racist And Sexist’ Remarks – Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/02/27/report-james-bond-books-being-rewritten-to-remove-racist-and-sexist-remarks/)

“The latest publications of the books, written by Ian Fleming, will also reportedly contain a trigger warning notifying readers that they may find some of the storylines hurt their feelings. The warning will read “This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace.””

Astonishing and disgusting. I read all or most of the James Bond books several times when I was in eighth and ninth grade. I had to sneak them into the house—which was easy because they were all thin paperbacks. Once I started reading one, I was so engrossed that I had to finish it that night, even if it was 2 am. I found the double-entendres hilarious—when I was fifteen. Racism? Because of the Chinese and Russian bad guys? My best friend loved Fu Manchu movies back then. That’s just they way things were. Is it right to try to rewrite history?

I taught a couple Bond novels in a college class called “The Thriller” that I taught for years, but I realized the writing wasn’t very good, and I found that sexism and racism and unlikely violence distasteful. It was also clear that the author had a penchant for sadism, or is it masochism? I think maybe Ian Fleming was a masochist. Bond always has to withstand a lot of pain. I don’t like pain. My students loved the novels, but they loved the Jack Reacher books even more. From a literary level, those aren’t as good as the Bond novels, in some ways, but they are also exciting. I was pleased that my students actually were reading fifty page assignments three times a week and loving them.

Why try to sanitize Bond? What stupidity. Apart from my students twenty years ago, who is forced to read the books? A large percentage of the novels on the best seller lists today offend me. I read the reviews. Then I just don’t read the books. Problem solved.

[LuvNH]

The fanatics are taking over the world and they have very loud voices. The rest of us shake our heads and basically ignore them and that is precisely what happened in Nazi Germany.

[JP]

I want to be on the committee that reviews and recommends changes to the 1619 project "book".

[Pairadocs]

According to reports, the James Bond books are being edited to avoid offending people.

Report: James Bond Books Being Rewritten To Remove ‘Racist And Sexist’ Remarks – Summit News (https://summit.news/2023/02/27/report-james-bond-books-being-rewritten-to-remove-racist-and-sexist-remarks/)

Of course, if you do a thorough analysis of the history of ours, and any, country, when censorship begins it does not stop, but grows exponentially, SURPRISE ! The "will" of the people determines if, and how much, censorship is tolerated in a culture/society. Right now we appear to be on a major swing toward extreme censorship. When a society begins to tolerate the actual RE-WRITING of an established author's works, they really should recognize just how dangerous those acts are ! In James Michener's book Texas, he gives examples of just how dangerous this is when he details how a state government can control the Re-writing of history textbooks. What is most frightening is, most of the younger, 30, 40 year old, generation has no knowledge of the history or dangers of censorship, no knowledge of Michener, Orwell, Pasternak (1950's Dr. Zhivago, a thinly disguised warning to democratic counties how quickly democracy can be obliterated). Regardless of an individual's political party preference, we are ALL getting plenty of red flags; plenty of warnings, but for the most part are being ignored. Not good ~ !

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Say it isn’t so? Will Plenty O’toole, Jenny Flex, Mary Goodnight, Honey Ryder, Octopussy, and the esteemed Holly Goodhead all be going away with Ms. Galore? I’ll need a double, shaken, not stirred, if that happens.

Can I join you?

[Pairadocs]

They are trying to hide the truth. We need to let our children learn from our mistakes. It will help them learn what really happened and help them make their decisions based on facts.
Hiding our dirty secrets like the Church and Boy Scouts did hurt so many children. It’s a cruel sick world out there. Children were not allowed to question.
The truth will prepare them better to deal with life when they are able to question and hold accountable.

So true. And with the "shock" of this new revelation of the origin of the virus, of the effectiveness of cloth masks in protection from a virus, of the effectiveness of injections against the most recent pandemic as we gain increased data on adverse reactions from all around the world, will "we" (the people) learn anything ? I keep thinking of the assassination of president Kennedy and how this increased tolerance of censorship (in TINY increments, a word here, a book there) can lead to a society where truth is not possible. Don't know the answer, and seems, no one actually does !

[JMintzer]

Now let's replace the word Nazi for WOKE

Let's not...