I do not recall the rage/anger during spring breaks

[HandyGrandpap]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

[LuvNH]

We rented a condo on the beach in Redington Shores for years before we purchased in TV. We used to dread Spring Break and the youngsters coming to the beach each year, they were up all night raising hell and slept all day. But we never had VIOLENCE. This is a new generation.

[tophcfa]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

Welcome to the modern world of social media, violent video games, and everyone gets a trophy. We are from a world that didn’t have social media, only the lucky few had the video game “pong”, and you had to win to get a trophy. And when we grew up we were taught to be respectful or face a lashing with a leather belt.

[retiredguy123]

Personally, I don't see much difference between today and many years ago. Spring Break has always meant the same thing to me. An out-of-control event that makes no sense and one that I have no interest in having anything to do with.

[dewilson58]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

Probably should inject the word "some" in your post.

,,,,,,,some next generation.......

,,,,,,,some local business.......

,,,,,,,some scenes on........


:024:

[Bay Kid]

Personally, I don't see much difference between today and many years ago. Spring Break has always meant the same thing to me. An out-of-control event that makes no sense and one that I have no interest in having anything to do with.

I always worked during spring break, no time to party. Times have changed where the young people don't work, just party.

[MrFlorida]

Do they get a "participation trophy" for attending ?

[Michael G.]

It's not only college kids on spring break.

Some years back when the Pro-Bowl was in Hawaii the players could invite their family's and friend's.
The next week most motels along the beaches were shut down from trashing the rooms.

[billethkid]

Let us not forget the media that is right there on the spot to present the bad and the ugly......as though it were a general condition.....which it is not.

Media distortion with bias....as usual.

The majority go for spring break to have a good time...like young people do.

_______________________________________________

:censored:

[Mrfriendly]

My high school friend called me other day to remind me it was 50yrs ago this week 4 of us 17yr olds from NJ jumped in a car and drove to Ft Lauderdale for spring break week. We still can't believe each of our parents let us go being only 17 years of age. What a trip!! No violence only shenanigans.

[Decadeofdave]

Back when you were in college there were no "student loans" that could be spent on anything, ie spring break etc.

[Groovejet]

They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy, loafers!
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?

---From "Bye Bye Birdie" - 60 years ago.

[fdpaq0580]

Probably should inject the word "some" in your post.

,,,,,,,some next generation.......

,,,,,,,some local business.......

,,,,,,,some scenes on........


:024:

Mr. Helpful, who said "shoot them all and let God sort them out."?

[fdpaq0580]

My high school friend called me other day to remind me it was 50yrs ago this week 4 of us 17yr olds from NJ jumped in a car and drove to Ft Lauderdale for spring break week. We still can't believe each of our parents let us go being only 17 years of age. What a trip!! No violence only shenanigans.

I envy you. I used to dream about having a friend in high school.

[NotGolfer]

My H.S. graduation was in '62. I never had a desire to go to FL for Spring Break during college. My parents wouldn't have supported it and I wouldn't have snuck to do it. I didn't even "party" in college. I always figured if the kegger got raided (and they did quite often) I would be one of the "lucky" ones to be caught and my parents would have blown a gasket for sure since they were paying my tuition etc. I'd have been pulled so fast, my head would spin PLUS they'd say "if you want to act stupid do it on your own!" Today many parents support teen parties or look the other way as they want to be viewed as cool. Today, I'm grateful for my conservative up-bringing!!!

[mlmarr]

Or was it a pay to destroy.. like BLM riots

[Andyb]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,
I think it is more of the thugs mixing in with the college kids causing the problems, than the college kids themselves. Kinda like Antifa mixing in with peaceful protests.

[Worldseries27]

my high school friend called me other day to remind me it was 50yrs ago this week 4 of us 17yr olds from nj jumped in a car and drove to ft lauderdale for spring break week. We still can't believe each of our parents let us go being only 17 years of age. What a trip!! No violence only shenanigans.
the intrusion of non college students in to a collegiate function including biker gangs is what sets up the violence to occur. Beaches should be patrolled no college id your out with zip ties around your wrists. Businesses have to demand their local ordinances to reflect that

[Veiragirl]

welcome to the modern world of social media, violent video games, and everyone gets a trophy. We are from a world that didn’t have social media, only the lucky few had the video game “pong”, and you had to win to get a trophy. And when we grew up we were taught to be respectful or face a lashing with a leather belt.

i totally agree ( with the exception of the leather strap)

[NJRICHARD]

I noticed what looked like a lot of outsiders, non-college thugs, guns and BLM -Antifa types willing to destroy anything in their way. We drove down from Boston, slept in our cars until we met others with motel rooms willing to share. NO violence, sloppy over drinking and fun.

[MrFlorida]

Spring break was a time where you got away from your studies and got to relax and have fun. Not today , these kids think they are entitled, and can do whatever they want without any consequences.

[chuckpedrey]

I did Fort Lauderdale 61 years ago with high school friends from Michigan and it was fun in sun for a bunch of pretty well behaved 17 year olds

[kayak]

I volunteer at a local charity. This year during spring break we had a few high School age kids come and work for the charity. That is refreshing to see. There are a lot a good kids out there. Not everybody has the party mentality.

[nhtexasrn]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,
Most of the violence during spring break is not caused by the students. Miami Beach officials stated that outside locals were causing most of the trouble. Most of the students just want to party and have fun and aren't really wanting to get involved in any violence.

[Indydealmaker]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

Dig a little deeper and you'll often find that the instigators of violence are not even college students, just predators.

[scooterstang]

When I was younger there were two events I never wanted any part in(spring break and Sturgis). At my age now it would still be Sturgis. I live in panama city now and spring break is going on right now and everything is going smoothly thanks to the fine job that the law enforcement here are doing!

[flash4353]

I believe the socio-economic and racial demographics have changed since Connie Francis sang Where The Boys Are in Daytona Beach 60 or so years ago.

[JMintzer]

Spring break was a time where you got away from your studies and got to relax and have fun. Not today , these kids think they are entitled, and can do whatever they want without any consequences.

Most of those committing violence are NOT "college kids"...

[billethkid]

Most of those committing violence are NOT "college kids"...

If only we could get the media to fess up on the reality!

__________________________________________________ __

:censored:

[kkingston57]

Do they get a "participation trophy" for attending ?

Do not believe that this problem involves "participation" trophies. People doing this are not the college students and probably some of the locals who "crash" the spring breakers. Seems like most of the problems are in Miami Beach.

[kkingston57]

Back when you were in college there were no "student loans" that could be spent on anything, ie spring break etc.

Student loans were in existence in 1975 and most students figured out how to do spring break on the cheap. 4-5 people in a car, 8+/- in a hotel room, do not buy liquor in a bar, etc.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Let us not forget the media that is right there on the spot to present the bad and the ugly......as though it were a general condition.....which it is not.

Media distortion with bias....as usual.

The majority go for spring break to have a good time...like young people do.

_______________________________________________

:censored:

Kids have always raised hell during this time, but in the past you didn't see any murders or gun violence. The permissive attitudes towards guns today has led to this.

[Bill14564]

I noticed what looked like a lot of outsiders, non-college thugs, guns and BLM -Antifa types willing to destroy anything in their way. We drove down from Boston, slept in our cars until we met others with motel rooms willing to share. NO violence, sloppy over drinking and fun.

After I learn how to pick out snowbirds in a crowd or driving in a golf cart I want to go to the class that teaches how to identify outsiders, non-college thugs, and BLM-Antifa types.

[JMintzer]

Student loans were in existence in 1975 and most students figured out how to do spring break on the cheap. 4-5 people in a car, 8+/- in a hotel room, do not buy liquor in a bar, etc.

Yup! We did Lauderdale for Spring break one year (1977 IIRC). Drove down with 5 people... Arrived at dawn and slept on the beach until our room was ready...

Almost got tossed out of the Holiday Inn (above "The Button") for having 11 people in the room... But to be fair, we had a big room (with a sitting area) with 2 queen size beds and a fold out sofa... Nothing get's your attention more than answering the door in your underwear and being greeted by a "badge and a gun"... :D

It took every "Yes Sir and No Ma'am" I could muster, begging them to let us stay...

The following year, we went camping in the Keys...

We left a few days early, drove to Lauderdale to meet friends. Little did I know, the guy who's "friends" we were supposed to meet had no idea what hotel they were staying in. We had left out tent with the rest of our group, figuring we didn't need it.

He figured "we'd just find them"...

Amazingly we did. We just ran into them on the strip... But they had police outside the hotel and we had to show a key to get in. I waltzed in, like I owned the pace, but my friends panicked... I couldn't leave them, so I left to join them.

It was like a "Mission Impossible" assignment to try to sneak back into the hotel, literally crawling up the outside fire stairwell so the cops wouldn't see us.

When we got to the room, it was wall to wall bodies... I slept on the floor, using my shoes as a pillow... I remember it fondly... :D

[JMintzer]

Kids have always raised hell during this time, but in the past you didn't see any murders or gun violence. The permissive attitudes towards guns today has led to this.

I'll bet the farm that not a single one of the guns recovered (I believe they took 70 of them in one week) were legally owned...

[JMintzer]

After I learn how to pick out snowbirds in a crowd or driving in a golf cart I want to go to the class that teaches how to identify outsiders, non-college thugs, and BLM-Antifa types.

My twitter feed has been full of videos of the insanity in Miami.

I'd post links but I don't feel like taking another vacation...

[Bogie Shooter]

I'll bet the farm that not a single one of the guns recovered (I believe they took 70 of them in one week) were legally owned...

Soon it will make no difference in Florida. Flirting with open carry no permit required.
This should really help the tourist industry! Great place to bring the kids to see Mickey and the macho guys with guns on their hips.

[Bill14564]

My twitter feed has been full of videos of the insanity in Miami.

I'd post links but I don't feel like taking another vacation...

I haven't been keeping up on it but I don't doubt there are numerous videos like that. I just haven't learned the knack of telling a non-college, BLM-Antifa type thug from little Johnny who just went to Miami for the warm weather.

The violence has picked up in almost all gathering of young people (maybe old people too). According to the news, Senior week in OC, Md has also gotten a bit rough lately.

[JMintzer]

Soon it will make no difference in Florida. Flirting with open carry no permit required.
This should really help the tourist industry! Great place to bring the kids to see Mickey and the macho guys with guns on their hips.

Still have to own the gun legally to carry... Same as it ever was...

[Escape Artist]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

I grew up in Southern California so our spring breaks were in Palm Springs, cruising up and down Palm Canyon Drive. No violence, but looking back on it, some scary situations.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

I'll bet the farm that not a single one of the guns recovered (I believe they took 70 of them in one week) were legally owned...

And I bet that you are right ...

[Taltarzac725]

They look like shootings that might happen anywhere but the large crowds of teens and college age kids panic thinking there is an active shooter involved.


It is more about creating safe spaces than about angry mobs.

[Geodyssey]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,

Demographics is destiny.

It's a much more diverse crowd now.

Prove me wrong.

[coralway]

Compared to the violence on 1/6, this was a walk in the park

[Taltarzac725]

Compared to the violence on 1/6, this was a walk in the park

Very true. I should not write anything more though.

[Whitley]

After I learn how to pick out snowbirds in a crowd or driving in a golf cart I want to go to the class that teaches how to identify outsiders, non-college thugs, and BLM-Antifa types.

Antifa thugs are easy to spot. Dressed in black, wearing face masks, often carrying umbrellas, difficult to tell which of the two sexes they are, bright non natural colored hair and a propensity for violence.

[Whitley]

Soon it will make no difference in Florida. Flirting with open carry no permit required.
This should really help the tourist industry! Great place to bring the kids to see Mickey and the macho guys with guns on their hips.

We seem to have no problem getting people to come to Florida from those (how to put this) gun safe states like NY, Mass, NJ, Cali etc..

[Whitley]

Still have to own the gun legally to carry... Same as it ever was...

What those gun safe states like NY accomplish, is assuring people like myself with money and an attorney can get a NYS and NYC carry, while many less fortunate citizens raising families in violent dangerous cities are unable to get one legally. Pretty sure MS13 and the Latin Kings don't go the legal route.

[Whitley]

Demographics is destiny.

It's a much more diverse crowd now.

Prove me wrong.

Makes me wonder if diversity really is a strength?
We use to come from diverse backgrounds and become one people, Americans.

[Whitley]

The poster saying the majority of mass shooting are done by white males is incorrect. The post was fact checked by independent fact checkers and rated three pinnochios.

[Taltarzac725]

The poster saying the majority of mass shooting are done by white males is incorrect. The post was fact checked by independent fact checkers and rated three pinnochios.

What's your source? I do watch the news and most active shooters in schools, parades, concerts, movie theaters, and work places are white males. US Mass public shootings since Columbine: victims per incident by race and ethnicity of the perpetrator - ScienceDirect (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743522002250)

White shooters were overrepresented in mass public shootings with the most victims, typically involving legally owned assault rifles. To better understand the consequences when firearms are readily available, including assault rifles, we need a database of all US gun violence. Our assessment of total victims beyond fatalities emphasizes the large number of US gun violence survivors and the need to understand their experiences to capture the full impact of gun violence.

[Taltarzac725]

Antifa thugs are easy to spot. Dressed in black, wearing face masks, often carrying umbrellas, difficult to tell which of the two sexes they are, bright non natural colored hair and a propensity for violence.

BS alert. Facts-- Who Are Antifa, and Are They a Threat? (https://www.csis.org/analysis/who-are-antifa-and-are-they-threat)

[Whitley]

What's your source? I do watch the news and most active shooters in schools, parades, concerts, movie theaters, and work places are white males. US Mass public shootings since Columbine: victims per incident by race and ethnicity of the perpetrator - ScienceDirect (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743522002250)

Below are figures taken by FBI Crime stats. They do these monthly, quarterly and annual. I believe one issue that could lead to differing figures would be defining a mass shooting. If it is two or more people shot the result would differ from let's say five or more. Whatever the results, I would ask what is the purpose of looking at this number? Is it to say race x is more prone to violence than race Y, leading to a genetic propensity for violence? Is it due to cultural differences? Perhaps economic issues? Let's say that we find out that male poc commit statistically significantly more mass shootings than their four percent population. What then? The figures below represent a month. It gets confusing when you look at. The numbers used mostly by those trying to say white males are disproportionately more likely to commit mass shootings are those from Statista. Statista uses figures from 1982 thru 2023, and of the 140 mass shootings, ??? 140? In 41 years? Others show 40+ monthly. I guess the takeaway here, including the numbers used below, would be that you can use statistics to prove your point, instead of using stats to develop your view. One chart I found to be more honest, maybe, is the DOJ, FBI stats Table 43A by Race and Ethnicity, 2019

[10,831 agencies; 2019 estimated population 229,735,355]


Of the 46 mass shooters in the Gun Violence Archive database for March 2021, 2% (1) was committed by a White male; 8% (4) were committed by Hispanics; 45% (21) were committed by African Americans; and in 43%, or 20 cases, the attacker’s race is unknown (for example because they were never caught or the police description of the shooter is ambiguous).
In January 2019 I conducted an identical analysis, finding total of 27 American mass shootings. Of those two were home invasion shootings in Houston, Texas; one in which several would-be robbers breaking into a home were shot by the homeowner, and the second when police raided the wrong house and came under fire from the (innocent) occupants within. Neither of these fit the typical image of a “mass shooter” threat or situation so both were omitted from the dataset, bringing the total to 25. Of the 25 mass shootings in the Gun Violence Archive database for January 2019, 16% (4) of them were committed by white males; 4% (1) was committed by a Hispanic man; 64% (16) were committed by African-Americans; and in 16%, or 4 cases, the attacker’s race is unknown.

[Whitley]

BS alert. Facts-- Who Are Antifa, and Are They a Threat? (https://www.csis.org/analysis/who-are-antifa-and-are-they-threat)

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has formally classified the activities of anti-fascist groups (antifa) as "domestic terrorist violence" since early 2016, according to confidential law enforcement documents obtained by Politico and interviews.

Federal authorities have reportedly warned state and local officials the antifa has become "increasingly confrontational" in efforts to thwart white supremacist groups.

Newly disclosed documents show authorities believed "anarchist extremists" were the main cause of violence at a number of public rallies. A confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI blamed the antifa for attacks on a range of targets, including police, government institutions and symbols of "the capitalist system."

Believe your eyes!

[Bogie Shooter]

Ignore button still working.

[Taltarzac725]

Ignore button still working.

I have it on.

[JMintzer]

Compared to the violence on 1/6, this was a walk in the park

Exactly when did people shoot people on the street on 1/6?

Oh wait, that was just the unarmed woman...

[JMintzer]

Ignore button still working.

Question...

If someone puts you on "ignore", can you still see their posts?

[Bill14564]

I noticed what looked like a lot of outsiders, non-college thugs, guns and BLM -Antifa types willing to destroy anything in their way. We drove down from Boston, slept in our cars until we met others with motel rooms willing to share. NO violence, sloppy over drinking and fun.

After I learn how to pick out snowbirds in a crowd or driving in a golf cart I want to go to the class that teaches how to identify outsiders, non-college thugs, and BLM-Antifa types.

Antifa thugs are easy to spot. Dressed in black, wearing face masks, often carrying umbrellas, difficult to tell which of the two sexes they are, bright non natural colored hair and a propensity for violence.


I'll have to have another look at those videos and watch more closely for the black-dressed, face-mask-wearing, umbrella-carrying individuals with non-natural hair color. Somehow I missed them the first time around.

[Taltarzac725]

Question...

If someone puts you on "ignore", can you still see their posts?

Only if you look at them. They are removed but you can push a button to see that post unblocked.

I have a lot of posters on my Ignore List.

For the person on the Ignore List he/she can see anything posted by the person who placed the poster on there.

[PugMom]

I believe the socio-economic and racial demographics have changed since Connie Francis sang Where The Boys Are in Daytona Beach 60 or so years ago.

i'm not convinced this has anything to do with race among college kids. i'm exposed to quite a few college students, they are dependable & very kind. AND you'd be surprised @ some of their views when they think no one is listening. it doesn't matter where you came from, it's how you grow that matters.

[JMintzer]

Only if you look at them. They are removed but you can push a button to see that post unblocked.

I have a lot of posters on my Ignore List.

For the person on the Ignore List he/she can see anything posted by the person who placed the poster on there.

Your last sentence answered my question. Thank you!

[JMintzer]

i'm not convinced this has anything to do with race among college kids. i'm exposed to quite a few college students, they are dependable & very kind. AND you'd be surprised @ some of their views when they think no one is listening. it doesn't matter where you came from, it's how you grow that matters.

I continue to assert that the violence we're seeing is NOT being perpetuated by "college students"...

[PugMom]

i completely agree

[Caymus]

Compared to the violence on 1/6, this was a walk in the park

Are you referring to the near constant violence in "defund the police" cities like Portland and Seattle?

[Number 10 GI]

Compared to the violence on 1/6, this was a walk in the park

How did you miss all the violent rioting that happened in many of the large cities that occurred prior to 1/6????? It was on the news station nearly round the clock.

[Taltarzac725]

How did you miss all the violent rioting that happened in many of the large cities that occurred prior to 1/6????? It was on the news station nearly round the clock.

Like comparing a grape to a watermelon.

[JMintzer]

Like comparing a grape to a watermelon.

True... Many more people were killed and much more damage occurred during those earlier riots...

[Kenswing]

Are you referring to the near constant violence in "defund the police" cities like Portland and Seattle?

One of several reasons we moved up our move to The Villages from Washington by almost three years. When Seattle surrendered nine square city blocks, which included a police precinct, to the rioters and willfully let them occupy it for months, I decided we could no longer live with such lawlessness.

[Taltarzac725]

True... Many more people were killed and much more damage occurred during those earlier riots...

No! The January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol Building was the watermelon. It was not the grape.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Still have to own the gun legally to carry... Same as it ever was...

I'll bet the farm that not a single one of the guns recovered (I believe they took 70 of them in one week) were legally owned...

So how does that work, exactly?

You're required to own the gun legally to carry -

and yet you're convinced that none of the +/- 70 guns recovered were legally owned.

I guess that requirement doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

If you're ALLOWED to wear your gun on your holster openly, then how is the law going to figure out which of you is not supposed to have the gun at all?

Answer: you have to break some OTHER law in order to have the law even check. By that time it's too late.

The law is basically telling ILLEGAL gun owners that they now have a better chance of walking around in broad daylight with their guns at their hips, than they ever did before. Because now, EVERYONE can do that. They're hiding in plain sight.

[JMintzer]

No! The January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol Building was the watermelon. It was not the grape.

I believe you got that backwards...

[JMintzer]

So how does that work, exactly?

You're required to own the gun legally to carry -

and yet you're convinced that none of the +/- 70 guns recovered were legally owned.

I guess that requirement doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

If you're ALLOWED to wear your gun on your holster openly, then how is the law going to figure out which of you is not supposed to have the gun at all?

Answer: you have to break some OTHER law in order to have the law even check. By that time it's too late.

The law is basically telling ILLEGAL gun owners that they now have a better chance of walking around in broad daylight with their guns at their hips, than they ever did before. Because now, EVERYONE can do that. They're hiding in plain sight.

So, you want to pass MORE laws that won't amount to a hill of beans?

Let me explain how they confiscated 70+ guns...

When the cops stop someone suspected of committing a crime, they are searched. If they find a gun, they can check to see if that gun is owned legally... If not, it is confiscated...

Now, once again, OPEN CARRY is not the discussion, because it is no longer on the table in FL...

Even if it was, the same rules apply. If you're stopped under suspicion of committing a crime, they can do a quick check. Add to that, criminal tend NOT to open carry. They don't want the added attention it brings...

[coffeebean]

My high school friend called me other day to remind me it was 50yrs ago this week 4 of us 17yr olds from NJ jumped in a car and drove to Ft Lauderdale for spring break week. We still can't believe each of our parents let us go being only 17 years of age. What a trip!! No violence only shenanigans.

I also had a ball during spring break in Ft. Lauderdale while in college so I was a bit older. We girls rented motor scooters and drove all around Ft. Lauderdale at night, going over the causeways. That was the daring-est adventure we had. I'm so glad I have those memories from that spring break. Priceless!

[coffeebean]

They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy, loafers!
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?

---From "Bye Bye Birdie" - 60 years ago.
https://youtu.be/n3edtd9AkWg

[coffeebean]

Student loans were in existence in 1975 and most students figured out how to do spring break on the cheap. 4-5 people in a car, 8+/- in a hotel room, do not buy liquor in a bar, etc.

Drive down on a full bus from NY to Ft. Lauderdale. Too bad the A/C was broken on the way down. I will NEVER forget that trip. Thank goodness we had working A/C on the way home.

[coffeebean]

Yup! We did Lauderdale for Spring break one year (1977 IIRC). Drove down with 5 people... Arrived at dawn and slept on the beach until our room was ready...

Almost got tossed out of the Holiday Inn (above "The Button") for having 11 people in the room... But to be fair, we had a big room (with a sitting area) with 2 queen size beds and a fold out sofa... Nothing get's your attention more than answering the door in your underwear and being greeted by a "badge and a gun"... :D

It took every "Yes Sir and No Ma'am" I could muster, begging them to let us stay...

The following year, we went camping in the Keys...

We left a few days early, drove to Lauderdale to meet friends. Little did I know, the guy who's "friends" we were supposed to meet had no idea what hotel they were staying in. We had left out tent with the rest of our group, figuring we didn't need it.

He figured "we'd just find them"...

Amazingly we did. We just ran into them on the strip... But they had police outside the hotel and we had to show a key to get in. I waltzed in, like I owned the pace, but my friends panicked... I couldn't leave them, so I left to join them.

It was like a "Mission Impossible" assignment to try to sneak back into the hotel, literally crawling up the outside fire stairwell so the cops wouldn't see us.

When we got to the room, it was wall to wall bodies... I slept on the floor, using my shoes as a pillow... I remember it fondly... :D

I'm LOVING these stories. Keep them coming! Reliving the good and fun times is so fun.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Back when you were in college there were no "student loans" that could be spent on anything, ie spring break etc.

No guns either.

[manaboutown]

Like comparing a grape to a watermelon.

The grape is is the peaceful folks at the Capital. The violent riots in Portland and elsewhere comprise the watermelon. The incompetent sleaze bag excuse for a cop who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be held accountable, imprisoned for life or hanged.

[Keefelane66]

The grape is is the peaceful folks at the Capital. The violent riots in Portland and elsewhere comprise the watermelon. The incompetent sleaze bag excuse for a cop who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be held accountable, imprisoned for life or hanged.
Ashli Babbit WAS a criminal a sane person does not break thru a glass LOCKED door it was filmed and it was not a peaceful protest!

[Chi-Town]

The grape is is the peaceful folks at the Capital. The violent riots in Portland and elsewhere comprise the watermelon. The incompetent sleaze bag excuse for a cop who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be held accountable, imprisoned for life or hanged.

Posts like this tucker me out.

[Kelevision]

I think it is more of the thugs mixing in with the college kids causing the problems, than the college kids themselves. Kinda like Antifa mixing in with peaceful protests.

WHAT!?!? thank you for the good laugh.

[Keefelane66]

Perhaps it is a sad commentary to see how the next generation has transitioned to the anger and rage during the spring breaks at Miami Beach. Althougth I could never afford to go when I was in college my colleagues who did go talked about the partying, drinking and the beach. Not one word about any violence.
It is sad to see where the local business do not even want the crowd there anymore, as opposed to how they were welcomed in the past.
Scenes on TV are disturbing,
Yes those were the days. Now I think we have had 177 mass shooting and 17 of those were in schools so far this year. No one wants to talk common sense just let’s have more guns.

[Taltarzac725]

Yes those were the days. Now I think we have had 177 mass shooting and 17 of those were in schools so far this year. No one wants to talk common sense just let’s have more guns.

They need to approach this from a practical angle. Do what will work. Red flag laws , gun safety courses in schools, mental health community education, more people -to-people connections and less use of computers, etc.

[JMintzer]

No guns either.

There were plenty of guns...

High Schools had gun clubs and shooting ranges in the basement...

[Bill14564]

There were plenty of guns...

High Schools had gun clubs and shooting ranges in the basement...

Brought my shotgun to school (left it in the truck) so that I could go deer hunting afterwards.

Those also were the days when you made sure no one saw you screwing around because it mattered that people thought you were a decent human being. Plus, the entire town knew everyone and your parents were certain to find out.

It never would have occurred to any of us to threaten to shoot someone at school - it just wasn't something that you did. Times have changed.