Speeding landscaper’s trucks

[ctreick]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

[Kenswing]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

Have you tried spike strips yet? If not maybe get the name of the company and call them to complain. The name on the truck might be easier to read than the license plate. If they do nothing you can always call the police with the company's name. If they get enough complaints they might investigate.

[fdpaq0580]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

Police presence and tickets with meaningful fines and penalties could work, but won't happen.

[shut the front door]

Yes, you go about your business. If they aren't causing you harm, go on with your day and stop stressing yourself out over something that you can't control.

[fdpaq0580]

Yes, you go about your business. If they aren't causing you harm, go on with your day and stop stressing yourself out over something that you can't control.

That is what I would expect someone who is afraid of being caught speeding to say.
And, the speeders cause the stress and raise the potential for harm.

[Bill14564]

That is what I would expect someone who is afraid of being caught speeding to say.
And, the speeders cause the stress and raise the potential for harm.

At what speed is there no stress and no potential for harm. Golf carts and e-bikes traveling 20mph have been accused of having the potential to harm someone. Bicycles traveling 13mph have been accused of having the potential to harm someone.

Would a strictly-enforced 10mph speed limit reduce the stress and the potential for harm to an acceptable level? Remember, the most recent traffic fatality that was reported in the Villages occurred between two vehicles each traveling less than 20mph.

Maybe it would be worthwhile to worry less about the speed someone is going or whether they are pulling a trailer or have a company logo. Worry about vehicles that cannot stay in their own lane. Worry about any vehicles (construction trucks, landscaping trucks, pickup trucks, SUVs, full-size sedans, Prius, Tesla, motorcycles, golf carts, e-bikes, or bicycles) that run stop signs or pull out in front of traffic - *that* is the truly dangerous behavior.

[fdpaq0580]

At what speed is there no stress and no potential for harm. Golf carts and e-bikes traveling 20mph have been accused of having the potential to harm someone. Bicycles traveling 13mph have been accused of having the potential to harm someone.

Would a strictly-enforced 10mph speed limit reduce the stress and the potential for harm to an acceptable level? Remember, the most recent traffic fatality that was reported in the Villages occurred between two vehicles each traveling less than 20mph.

Maybe it would be worthwhile to worry less about the speed someone is going or whether they are pulling a trailer or have a company logo. Worry about vehicles that cannot stay in their own lane. Worry about any vehicles (construction trucks, landscaping trucks, pickup trucks, SUVs, full-size sedans, Prius, Tesla, motorcycles, golf carts, e-bikes, or bicycles) that run stop signs or pull out in front of traffic - *that* is the truly dangerous behavior.

How about quit being obtuse and trying to justify speeding. How about observing the speed limits, for heaves sake? Is it reeealy that difficult?

[Velvet]

Yes, you go about your business. If they aren't causing you harm, go on with your day and stop stressing yourself out over something that you can't control.

That sounds like advice for “learned helplessness” - as long as these vehicles use public roads, safety is everyone’s concern.

[coralway]

That is what I would expect someone who is afraid of being caught speeding to say.
And, the speeders cause the stress and raise the potential for harm.




So now you wanna give them a ticket for causing you stress and raising the POTENTIAL for harm? What happened to Floridians being free citizens living in a free state? Sounds like a bunch of snowflakes

[Velvet]

So now you wanna give them a ticket for causing you stress and raising the POTENTIAL for harm? What happened to Floridians being free citizens living in a free state? Sounds like a bunch of snowflakes

Free does not mean anarchy, we are not free to ignore traffic rules - try going the wrong way on a highway because you’re in a “free state”.

[fdpaq0580]

So now you wanna give them a ticket for causing you stress and raising the POTENTIAL for harm? What happened to Floridians being free citizens living in a free state? Sounds like a bunch of snowflakes

You misjudge. Call me Froggie.
You misinterpret. Don't want them ticked for causing stress. Do want them ticketed for exceeding the lawful safe speed limit.
Do you interpret free state as a state where citizens are free to break the law, bully or endanger others, etc? That is not what it means to me. To me it means free to live your life as you see fit As Long As you do not break the laws or interfere with the rights of your fellow citizens.

[ThirdOfFive]

Some weeks back we were behind a service truck on El Camino Real. Can’t recall the name of the company but as I recall it was appliance service and repair. On the back of the truck was one of those “How Is My Driving” sign, along with a phone number to call if one wanted to enlighten the company as to how their employee was driving.

The last four numbers of the phone number had been sanded off.

True story.

I think speeding service vehicles can be a definite concern. If you think they are a danger, then call the company and report it. The name of the company will be on the vehicle somewhere.

[GpaVader]

Speeding can be subjective. If you are driving the posted speed limit and someone passes you, they are speeding. But if you are standing on the side of the road or walking and a vehicle passes, unless they are drag racing, do you really know how fast they are going? It might be faster than you want but they could still be driving the speed limit or at least the proximity...

[Pairadocs]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

I agree, TOTALLY out of control, see them nearly hitting people in their golf carts everyday on Belvidere... they go 45 mph when posted 30, but most horrifying is how they "swing" back and forth into the golf cart lanes. WHERE ARE THE POLICE ? Surely some of our taxes go for police ? Perhaps none available to hire, shortages everywhere, but this is really serious situation that needs attention. BTW, have you noticed how many do NOT have valid license tags, followed one that nearly hit an on coming auto (because the truck was using BOTH their lane and the golf cart lane, then seeing carts ahead, the truck went over the center line and nearly side swiped the auto. Followed them and when they finally stopped at a home, found the license tag expired 2-21 ! ! Reported it but... chances of anyone following up, probably not. Much more serious crimes for the small police force to try to control ? Reckless driving and excessive speeding, especially of service people, USED to be an occasional thing. Police USED to sit along the major arteries, often partially hidden near the polo fields. Now that there is no patrolling, it has gone to the residential streets too. Wish we had an answer, seems it always takes a tragedy for any action to be taken !

[fdpaq0580]

Speeding can be subjective. If you are driving the posted speed limit and someone passes you, they are speeding. But if you are standing on the side of the road or walking and a vehicle passes, unless they are drag racing, do you really know how fast they are going? It might be faster than you want but they could still be driving the speed limit or at least the proximity...

BS! If they driving at or below the legal posted speed limit then they are not "speeding". If they are driving above the posted legal speed limit, they are speeding. Whether I am there or not.

[Pairadocs]

Some weeks back we were behind a service truck on El Camino Real. Can’t recall the name of the company but as I recall it was appliance service and repair. On the back of the truck was one of those “How Is My Driving” sign, along with a phone number to call if one wanted to enlighten the company as to how their employee was driving.

The last four numbers of the phone number had been sanded off.

True story.

I think speeding service vehicles can be a definite concern. If you think they are a danger, then call the company and report it. The name of the company will be on the vehicle somewhere.

I understand most delivery trucks and appliance repair have company names, but have you noticed the number of very beat up old trucks with all kinds of lawn equipment in the back, and a trailer attached, with no license plates, no name on truck ? One nearly took out the gate arm leaving our village last Tuesday ! Leaving the village so fast they did not slow down enough for the gate to clear; it "dinged" but did not come off...truck didn't even slow down to "check" what they had hit ! Time is money ? The faster you get to the next house the more lawns you can do ? And YES, we have seen truck where the "licensed & insured" numbers are rusted or sanded off, and saw a plumbing truck in Wildwood just yesterday with one of those "How is my driving signs" then, NO phone number ! Maybe the company was getting too many calls from drivers with a cell phone who observed the speeding... or in this case, went through a red (not yellow caution) light !

[Pairadocs]

Police presence and tickets with meaningful fines and penalties could work, but won't happen.

For sure won't happen ! Few police, already over burdened, a LOT of crime, a LOT of drug dealing, and traffic "crime" moved to the bottom of the priority list. Some residents try to demonstrate personal responsibility by driving right at the limit, but..... the ANGER of service people, and of some residents, aimed at people who are going the limit is also over the top !

[Bogie Shooter]

So now you wanna give them a ticket for causing you stress and raising the POTENTIAL for harm? What happened to Floridians being free citizens living in a free state? Sounds like a bunch of snowflakes

So, you bought that propaganda............

[Michael G.]

If they get enough complaints they might investigate.

You got a better chance if hell freezes over

[retiredguy123]

I have recently noticed that some landscapers are using the roads to travel on riding lawnmowers that don't even have a license. A few days ago, I followed a riding lawnmower on a county road for 4 blocks. In the past, these riding mowers were transported to the houses on a trailer.

[ThirdOfFive]

You got a better chance if hell freezes over
True, unfortunately.

[Velvet]

I have recently noticed that some landscapers are using the roads to travel on riding lawnmowers that don't even have a license. A few days ago, I followed a riding lawnmower on a county road for 4 blocks. In the past, these riding mowers were transported to the houses on a trailer.

Yes, I noticed they were in the diamond lane although they were too wide. I just passed carefully with my cart. I think rather than raising prices for their services they are trying to cut costs in other ways.

[fdpaq0580]

Yes, I noticed they were in the diamond lane although they were too wide. I just passed carefully with my cart. I think rather than raising prices for their services they are trying to cut costs in other ways.

Just how good is the mileage on a lawn tractor?

[phylt]

IMO these guys are the worst! Flying around, parking away from curbs while working, parking on turns on neighborhood streets, etc etc.

A couple times I told them to park closer to the curb —- with their towed trailer. Can barely pass thru. Irritating.

[ctreick]

I agree, TOTALLY out of control, see them nearly hitting people in their golf carts everyday on Belvidere... they go 45 mph when posted 30, but most horrifying is how they "swing" back and forth into the golf cart lanes. WHERE ARE THE POLICE ? Surely some of our taxes go for police ? Perhaps none available to hire, shortages everywhere, but this is really serious situation that needs attention. BTW, have you noticed how many do NOT have valid license tags, followed one that nearly hit an on coming auto (because the truck was using BOTH their lane and the golf cart lane, then seeing carts ahead, the truck went over the center line and nearly side swiped the auto. Followed them and when they finally stopped at a home, found the license tag expired 2-21 ! ! Reported it but... chances of anyone following up, probably not. Much more serious crimes for the small police force to try to control ? Reckless driving and excessive speeding, especially of service people, USED to be an occasional thing. Police USED to sit along the major arteries, often partially hidden near the polo fields. Now that there is no patrolling, it has gone to the residential streets too. Wish we had an answer, seems it always takes a tragedy for any action to be taken !

Thank you for your pertinent and understanding reply …

[New Englander]

I understand most delivery trucks and appliance repair have company names, but have you noticed the number of very beat up old trucks with all kinds of lawn equipment in the back, and a trailer attached, with no license plates, no name on truck ? One nearly took out the gate arm leaving our village last Tuesday ! Leaving the village so fast they did not slow down enough for the gate to clear; it "dinged" but did not come off...truck didn't even slow down to "check" what they had hit ! Time is money ? The faster you get to the next house the more lawns you can do ? And YES, we have seen truck where the "licensed & insured" numbers are rusted or sanded off, and saw a plumbing truck in Wildwood just yesterday with one of those "How is my driving signs" then, NO phone number ! Maybe the company was getting too many calls from drivers with a cell phone who observed the speeding... or in this case, went through a red (not yellow caution) light !

I see trucks like that regularly because I walk in my neighborhood.

[Worldseries27]

Do we really want leo involved. Speed camera's everywhere like in orlando? If you point a finger remember, 4 fingers are pointing back at you

[Sandy and Ed]

You misjudge. Call me Froggie.
You misinterpret. Don't want them ticked for causing stress. Do want them ticketed for exceeding the lawful safe speed limit.
Do you interpret free state as a state where citizens are free to break the law, bully or endanger others, etc? That is not what it means to me. To me it means free to live your life as you see fit As Long As you do not break the laws or interfere with the rights of your fellow citizens.
Well said!!

[Sandy and Ed]

Police presence and tickets with meaningful fines and penalties could work, but won't happen.
AND I would like to know why. It would seem to me that enforcing heavy fine collection would send a message. Probably multiple infractions in most cases. Would bring in revenue to permit hiring more traffic cops. I actually like seeing cops writing tickets - makes me slow down.

[Keefelane66]

I have recently noticed that some landscapers are using the roads to travel on riding lawnmowers that don't even have a license. A few days ago, I followed a riding lawnmower on a county road for 4 blocks. In the past, these riding mowers were transported to the houses on a trailer.
Lawn mowers are just like low-speed vehicle just like your golf cart same with small golf course Maintenance vehicle does your golf-cart require a license?

[Bill14564]

Police presence and tickets with meaningful fines and penalties could work, but won't happen.

You misjudge. Call me Froggie.
You misinterpret. Don't want them ticked for causing stress. Do want them ticketed for exceeding the lawful safe speed limit.
Do you interpret free state as a state where citizens are free to break the law, bully or endanger others, etc? That is not what it means to me. To me it means free to live your life as you see fit As Long As you do not break the laws or interfere with the rights of your fellow citizens.

Be careful what you wish for. I have spent time in countries that practice what you seem to be proposing - I was happy to leave.

(EDIT: Of course we need laws and enforcement. But, the laws should *protect* rights, not restrict them and enforcement should be about *protecting* people, not filling quotas or raising funds. Too often the people and their elected representatives ignore this.)

[GizmoWhiskers]

BS! If they driving at or below the legal posted speed limit then they are not "speeding". If they are driving above the posted legal speed limit, they are speeding. Whether I am there or not.
I think it was NC or SC that I recently saw a video of a person being ticketed for more than 15 mph BELOW the speed limit. I wish we had more of that as well here in FL. Nothing more aggrevating than the RISK associated with too slow of a driver. It would be nice if all people just went the POSTED limits. End of problem.

BTW to newcomers turning onto 301 at DeLuna entrance... once out the gate the speed is 55 mph until you reach the turnpike where it drops to 45 mph. The posted speed on 301 at T V gate location (considering of course the traffic light) is NOT 30 mph like inside T V DeLuna gate it is 55 mph!!

At least while it lasts...

Same thing on 44 from just after 301 n 44 to Brownwood and on to Buena Vista and Morse. The speed limit is 55, NOT 35 as post in TV. (Realizing of course they say posted signs are SUGGESTED SPEEDS; however, more than 15 mph below SHOULD be cause for ticket as well.)

If people drive predictably, WATCH for and drive according to the posted speeds there would probably be less speed demons trying to get to where they need to be 20 mins ago thanks to our drivers going 25 under the speed limit.

Driving too slow can cause accidents as well. Those not comfortable with posted speeds should not be driving.

[dadcat]

Just yesterday evening at the Drake/466A gate an unmarked police car and a Fruitland Park police car had a blue landscaping truck pulled over. I believe a ticket (s) were indeed being issued. As a former LEO, brothers, I salute you.

[bark4me]

Have you tried spike strips yet? If not maybe get the name of the company and call them to complain. The name on the truck might be easier to read than the license plate. If they do nothing you can always call the police with the company's name. If they get enough complaints they might investigate.
Yeah good luck with that. And most of these landscapers are a small outfit who don't really give a 💩

[bark4me]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.
All these people speed. Landscapers, contractors, UPS, FedEx. What you need is an aggressive Traffic Officer to take care of business here. But remember, careful what you ask for. You may end up on the wrong side of the officers pen 🖊

[asianthree]

At our first house we watched FedEx, UPS, and multiple lawn companies, speed up, cross the double yellow to avoid being behind a merging golf cart.

Yet all these companies forget they have have a job because of the residents of TV.

I will say Amazon drivers are the most curious, and seem to drive the speed limit, and are very aware of golf carts. Maybe it’s because they have so many deliveries on each street they can’t speed:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Mike Scott trucks, seem to be the most observant of the roads

[PersonOfInterest]

Why speeding and not the many other hazardous driving situations in the villages? Left Turns from the Cart lane, Yielding right of way, Driving too Slow, stopping in a round about, and dozens of other forms of poor driving. Why is speed always singled out as the top driving offense? Many of those driving above the speed limit may be more competent in their driving skills than those driving with poor skills and slower reaction times. And while we're on this subject, how many drivers are on the roads and cart paths who are over the legal limit for Alcohol consumption?

[wamley]

No we want them to slow down to the posted speed limit. If ticketing can get that done than thats what needs to be done.

[ThirdOfFive]

Why speeding and not the many other hazardous driving situations in the villages? Left Turns from the Cart lane, Yielding right of way, Driving too Slow, stopping in a round about, and dozens of other forms of poor driving. Why is speed always singled out as the top driving offense? Many of those driving above the speed limit may be more competent in their driving skills than those driving with poor skills and slower reaction times. And while we're on this subject, how many drivers are on the roads and cart paths who are over the legal limit for Alcohol consumption?
Can’t argue with most of that. A lot of sins besides speeding are being committed here in TV and, for the most part, going unpunished.

But speeding is A, if not THE, major contributing factor to the severity of damage to humans and to structures/vehicles, etc., in accidents. I cannot remember the exact calculation but weight X speed squared = force, or something like that. It stands to reason. A group of vehicles going down a road all at approximately the same speed leads to situations where anything that might happen is predictable. But introduce an unstable, unpredictable element to that and you can have the makings of a very bad situation. The speeder MAY indeed be the best driver in that group of vehicles but if he/she begins weaving in and out of the vehicles, that is an unstable element because the other drivers may not react predictably. My wife is a good example. She loves to go fast. If I mention it to her, her reaction is “I’m probably the best driver here”. And that is probably true, but the reality of the situation is that even if true, it means that the OTHER drivers have to be equally good so that safety is maintained, and they’re obviously not.

This, from the NFC: ‘Speeding is a major factor in traffic deaths and injuries. The role of speeding in crashes is described in terms of its effect on the driver, the vehicle, and the road. Excessive speeding reduces the amount of time the driver has to react in a dangerous situation to avoid a crash, increases vehicle stopping distance, and reduces the ability of road safety structures (such as guardrails, impact attenuators, crash cushions, median dividers, and concrete barriers) to protect vehicle occupants in a crash.

Speeding was a factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities in 2020, killing 11,258, or an average of over 30 people per day. The total number of fatal motor-vehicle crashes attributable to speeding was 10,136. A crash is considered speeding-related if the driver was charged with a speeding-related offense or if racing, driving too fast for conditions, or exceeding the posted speed limit was indicated as a contributing factor in the crash.”

Those speed limit signs are not merely suggestions. They’re there for a reason. Slow down and help the other drivers out there be safe too.

[wmcgowan]

run out in front of them - that might slow them down - just brainstorming here

[fdpaq0580]

run out in front of them - that might slow them down - just brainstorming here

You first, brainsmasher.

[Rodneysblue]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.
Roll an old golf cart out in front of them.

[Ecuadog]

Roll an old golf cart out in front of them.

In a previous life, I would occasionally roll a ball out from behind a parked car.

[jaygardens]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

how about spike strips?

If the Villages and counties would ticket speeders on just Morse and Buena Vista - the $ would completely pay for all amenity fees - no ?

[Bill14564]

how about spike strips?

If the Villages and counties would ticket speeders on just Morse and Buena Vista - the $ would completely pay for all amenity fees - no ?

What are they doing with the fines and court fees from the citations issued for all the accidents caused by the speeding?

[Taltarzac725]

I recall they had speed bumps at some of the Villages' gates but those did not last.

Big topic on TOTV. https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/speed-bumps-248266/?highlight=speed+bumps

[asianthree]

What are they doing with the fines and court fees from the citations issued for all the accidents caused by the speeding?

Coffee and donuts once a month, for staff, cause not enough fines to buy weekly :oops:

[Velvet]

They can treat the road surface like on some places on highways so that if you go beyond a certain speed it becomes very uncomfortable. I am not recommending it, just saying there are many physical ways to calm traffic.

[fdpaq0580]

In a previous life, I would occasionally roll a ball out from behind a parked car.

Try a stroller with a doll covered in catsup. That will give them a thrill.

[Bogie Shooter]

Try a stroller with a doll covered in catsup. That will give them a thrill.

Can’t say, but that seems the stroller pusher would get a big ticket.:ohdear:

[fdpaq0580]

Can’t say, but that seems the stroller pusher would get a big ticket.:ohdear:

Only if they catch me, er him, uh whoever it was.
Besides, what makes you sure they would bother to stop? Probably hit the gas and highball it out of Dodge.

[Velvet]

Only if they catch me, er him, uh whoever it was.
Besides, what makes you sure they would bother to stop? Probably hit the gas and highball it out of Dodge.

I’m thinking you’re an engineer by profession, some (ahem) friends used ball bearings….

[Altavia]

It's the wild west here.

Bothers me more for vehicles transiting passengers.

The Workman and Groom vans can often be observed doing more than 10-20 over the limit locally and on the Turnpike.

[Carlsondm]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.
I agree. I am a walker and was almost mowed down by a contractor .. with trailer driving about 30 mph aground our block in Linden Isle. I jumped on the grass and hoped no one else was walking across the street.

[Pondboy]

I still work and drive a company truck. My speed, acceleration and braking is all monitored (by GPS) when I drive. A report is generated monthly and distributed to upper management. It basically shows who has been naughty and who has been nice (a good driver). I assume that all the major companies have a similar system installed in their vehicles.

[asianthree]

It's the wild west here.

Bothers me more for vehicles transiting passengers.

The Workman and Groom vans can often be observed doing more than 10-20 over the limit locally and on the Turnpike.

Please 70 on the turnpike is a suggestion. Norm for many is 75-80, or you get the feeling you are about to get run over

[asianthree]

I still work and drive a company truck. My speed, acceleration and braking is all monitored (by GPS) when I drive. A report is generated monthly and distributed to upper management. It basically shows who has been naughty and who has been nice (a good driver). I assume that all the major companies have a similar system installed in their vehicles.

Problem is 90% of the lawn companies are single owners. FedEx and UPS are under the gun to do their route in a time frame.

[fdpaq0580]

I’m thinking you’re an engineer by profession, some (ahem) friends used ball bearings….

I am flattered that you might think that about me. Please allow me to not damage that illusion.
And I like the ball bearing idea. Straight out of Three Stooges foiling some gangsters.

[Velvet]

I am flattered that you might think that about me. Please allow me to not damage that illusion.
And I like the ball bearing idea. Straight out of Three Stooges foiling some gangsters.

No, real life but since it’s illegal I won’t go into details.

[Pairadocs]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

It never gets "better". Wrote my (negative) comments on this yesterday, and today, on far south portion of Buena Vista, had a DOUBLE tandem pull out of a residential street near Havana C.C. at a rate of speed you'd think they could never reach on such a street... no visible license plate of course, and entered Buena Vista just expecting the cars in the right hand lane to to move left for their big rig... Makes a person wonder if all of them even have a valid driver's license. Florida in general, does seem to have a much higher tolerance for this type of thing than most states we've lived in ? Lack of available appropriate police recruits ? Who knows ?

[Pairadocs]

I still work and drive a company truck. My speed, acceleration and braking is all monitored (by GPS) when I drive. A report is generated monthly and distributed to upper management. It basically shows who has been naughty and who has been nice (a good driver). I assume that all the major companies have a similar system installed in their vehicles.

I suspect the people who literally tear through our narrow residential street daily, don't work for any particular company that would have such equipment. Furniture delivery truck that nearly hit a golf cart, didn't even had ANY identifying information on the door of the truck ! Same with the lawn mowing people, I don't think any one checks on them or even cares, as long as they get to as many places a day before dark as possible. Just the way it seems to be here !? If a person does not like it, don't think there is much that can be done. Same with the lawn care people who block entire driveways, then refuse to shut off their equipment and move their truck until they are finished ! We had that happen in our neighborhood too.

[Pairadocs]

Just yesterday evening at the Drake/466A gate an unmarked police car and a Fruitland Park police car had a blue landscaping truck pulled over. I believe a ticket (s) were indeed being issued. As a former LEO, brothers, I salute you.

If enough of this starts to happen, I believe the "word" would quickly get around in the "lawn mowing" circles. That would help a LOT, especially if they would check for VALID licenses, valid license PLATES ON THE TRUCK, and also valid plates for the one or two TRAILERS they have attached ! Word of mouth can spread, and huge fines can cause those involved to "reconsider" the cost of breaking the laws, to the "monetary gains" that come from speeding from job to job, and from not renewing license plates and even contractor licenses and insurance. If you ever need some entertainment, just copy down some of the "state licensed and insured" numbers from various trucks and on calling cards left stuck in your doors ... any trucks, roofing, mowing, painting, etc. and then go to the state website and CHECK if those numbers are in good standing ! It can be quite an eye opening experience !

[Bill14564]

It never gets "better". Wrote my (negative) comments on this yesterday, and today, on far south portion of Buena Vista, had a DOUBLE tandem pull out of a residential street near Havana C.C. at a rate of speed you'd think they could never reach on such a street... no visible license plate of course, and entered Buena Vista just expecting the cars in the right hand lane to to move left for their big rig... Makes a person wonder if all of them even have a valid driver's license. Florida in general, does seem to have a much higher tolerance for this type of thing than most states we've lived in ? Lack of available appropriate police recruits ? Who knows ?

??

Havana CC is north of 466A so not far south. It is near Morse not Buena Vista. The only residential streets that meet Buena Vista without a traffic circle are up north of Lake Sumter Landing near 466. There is one that meets Morse near 44 but nowhere near Havana and not close to any CC.

[Worldseries27]

Please 70 on the turnpike is a suggestion. Norm for many is 75-80, or you get the feeling you are about to get run over
I've seen tractor trailers in the left lane on the turnpike passing police cars in the middle or right lanes and no lights came on

[mlmarr]

Plus take photos of the drivers..

[brianherlihy]

i just park my car and truck in front of my home and all slow down not happy

[brianherlihy]

if we all park on the street all will slow down

[MidWestIA]

don't stand in the street they don't need you to control the streets

[Velvet]

don't stand in the street they don't need you to control the streets

So are you saying that their needs are more important than the rest of ours?

[DAVES]

Any suggestions on how to slow down the landscaping trucks driving through The Villages? They go flying down neighborhood streets and it’s frightening! In fact it’s hard to see the license plates when they drive so fast.

Sadly we, me included, tend to notice those who violate safe driving and not the bulk who drive safely. I see some with trailers far too large typical villages streets.
Properly INSURED, licensed, legal workers you can bet prices would go up.

Same issue. Golf cart speed safe driving? Turn signals. Etc etc.

[retiredguy123]

Sadly we, me included, tend to notice those who violate safe driving and not the bulk who drive safely. I see some with trailers far too large typical villages streets.
Properly INSURED, licensed, legal workers you can bet prices would go up.

Same issue. Golf cart speed safe driving? Turn signals. Etc etc.
If the speed limit for golf carts is 20 mph, I hope they keep speeding.

[DAVES]

Problem is 90% of the lawn companies are single owners. FedEx and UPS are under the gun to do their route in a time frame.

Ex-New Yorker. They had a program where you would take a safe driving course and save on your auto insurance. If, I recall it was like 10% off your comprehensive and ??? off something else That more than paid for the cost to take the course and was good for a couple of years. There were many others ???? about half who were there to avoid license suspension due to too many points-violations recorded on their drivers license.

Rules, it was amusing what some people think are the rules of the road. Truth we can always learn something. I recall a retired cop saying your job is to see everyone gets home safely, Not to teach others a lesson.

The law. I recall learning that postal vehicles have the right of way. Not sure if that applies to UPS, Fedex or Amazon.

The villages. Most of our driving is in residential neighborhoods. We deal with bikes, golf carts, walkers turtles, and those cranes. The cranes are truly interesting. None seem to care about rules.

In any case, THE GOAL IS FOR ALL TO GET HOME SAFELY. If, you are constantly thinking others are stupid, inconsiderate, too slow, shouldn't be allowed on the road.
Perhaps, you are the problem.

[DAVES]

If the speed limit for golf carts is 20 mph, I hope they keep speeding.

Not sure your point. May I suggest you check what the law is.

[retiredguy123]

Not sure your point. May I suggest you check what the law is.
I don't own a golf cart, but I checked the law and the speed limit is 20 mph. My point is that I don't want to get stuck behind carts going that slowly. Most carts in The Villages are going about 30 to 35 mph.

[golfing eagles]

I don't own a golf cart, but I checked the law and the speed limit is 20 mph. My point is that I don't want to get stuck behind carts going that slowly. Most carts in The Villages are going about 30 to 35 mph.

Well, I agree with you-----you don't own a cart

5 years ago most carts were going 20-21
Now it seems 23 is about the norm
Anything over 20 is illegal
30 is a rarity and 35 is suicidal

[asianthree]

Problem is 90% of the lawn companies are single owners. FedEx and UPS are under the gun to do their route in a time frame.

Ex-New Yorker. They had a program where you would take a safe driving course and save on your auto insurance. If, I recall it was like 10% off your comprehensive and ??? off something else That more than paid for the cost to take the course and was good for a couple of years. There were many others ???? about half who were there to avoid license suspension due to too many points-violations recorded on their drivers license.

Rules, it was amusing what some people think are the rules of the road. Truth we can always learn something. I recall a retired cop saying your job is to see everyone gets home safely, Not to teach others a lesson.

The law. I recall learning that postal vehicles have the right of way. Not sure if that applies to UPS, Fedex or Amazon.

The villages. Most of our driving is in residential neighborhoods. We deal with bikes, golf carts, walkers turtles, and those cranes. The cranes are truly interesting. None seem to care about rules.

In any case, THE GOAL IS FOR ALL TO GET HOME SAFELY. If, you are constantly thinking others are stupid, inconsiderate, too slow, shouldn't be allowed on the road.
Perhaps, you are the problem.

Not sure what your post has to do with my post that lawn companies are usually single owners, and FedEx and UPS have timed delivery routes. How exactly am I the problem you long winded post of practices in other state, wildlife and “your goal for all to get home safe, have anything to do with using my post to quote from.

I can watch FedEx, UPS, and lawn companies from my lanai. No cart, or car required for me to be as you quoted “Perhaps, you are the problem”

[golfing eagles]

Ex-New Yorker............

In any case, THE GOAL IS FOR ALL TO GET HOME SAFELY. If, you are constantly thinking others are stupid, inconsiderate, too slow, shouldn't be allowed on the road.........


But, but, but----What if others ARE stupid, inconsiderate, too slow, and shouldn't be allowed on the road??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: