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MrLonzo
03-31-2023, 12:07 PM
Any advice on naming an estate Executor for someone with no friends or family that would be suitable for that position?
In a way, I’d prefer enlisting a fiduciary at a reputable but smaller ‘get-to-know-you’ business rather than a larger less personal financial company, but don’t know how to find or evaluate such groups. Or if they’ll still be around when I’m not.
retiredguy123
03-31-2023, 12:17 PM
Any advice on naming an estate Executor for someone with no friends or family that would be suitable for that position?
In a way, I’d prefer enlisting a fiduciary at a reputable but smaller ‘get-to-know-you’ business rather than a larger less personal financial company, but don’t know how to find or evaluate such groups. Or if they’ll still be around when I’m not.
I would suggest that you attempt to convert as many assets as possible into a "transfer-on-death" ownership, so the will becomes less important. All of my assets are titled that way, except for my house. And, I am considering getting a ladybird deed for the house, so that there will be no need to probate my will because all of the assets will transfer automatically at death.
bsloan1960
03-31-2023, 12:28 PM
I would suggest that you attempt to convert as many assets as possible into a "transfer-on-death" ownership, so the will becomes less important. All of my assets are titled that way, except for my house. And, I am considering getting a ladybird deed for the house, so that there will be no need to probate my will because all of the assets will transfer automatically at death.
We have 5 people who will inherit our assets upon our deaths. Can a Lady Bird Deed be used in the case of a property going to more than one person?
Also. Is it customary to leave a sum of money in the will to an executor? I just realized that our executor may be required to fly to Florida upon our death and that will be expensive.
retiredguy123
03-31-2023, 12:59 PM
We have 5 people who will inherit our assets upon our deaths. Can a Lady Bird Deed be used in the case of a property going to more than one person?
Also. Is it customary to leave a sum of money in the will to an executor? I just realized that our executor may be required to fly to Florida upon our death and that will be expensive.
I'm not sure if a ladybird deed can name more than one person to take ownership of the property, but it sounds like a terrible idea. I would suggest that you direct the executor to sell the property and to distribute the proceeds to the 5 heirs. Having 5 people jointly owning a house is ripe for a huge argument.
It is not customary to leave money in the will to the executor, unless they are one of your heirs. That would become their money to use for anything they wanted. However, the executor will have access to the estate assets and they can use those assets as needed to perform the executor duties and also to receive a reasonable compensation, which is prescribed by law or limited by the court. You can also specify a larger compensation amount in the will for the executor to receive for performing the duties if you want. To me, the most important thing to do is to have a checking account or other liquid account that the executor can get access to quickly, so they can start the probate process without spending their own money.
MrLonzo
03-31-2023, 10:12 PM
I would suggest that you attempt to convert as many assets as possible into a "transfer-on-death" ownership, so the will becomes less important. All of my assets are titled that way, except for my house. And, I am considering getting a ladybird deed for the house, so that there will be no need to probate my will because all of the assets will transfer automatically at death.
There are only 5 states that have ladybird deeds. Florida is one, but California, where I still own a house, is not. If I die before I sell it, probate is still required, I believe, unless there's some other 'trick' I'm not aware of. Yes, most of my other accounts are designated beneficiaries.
retiredguy123
03-31-2023, 11:03 PM
There are only 5 states that have ladybird deeds. Florida is one, but California, where I still own a house, is not. If I die before I sell it, probate is still required, I believe, unless there's some other 'trick' I'm not aware of. Yes, most of my other accounts are designated beneficiaries.
As I understand it, California has a transfer-on-death (TOD) deed for real estate that allows you to name a beneficiary and avoid probate. Florida does not allow TOD deeds, which is why many people use the ladybird deed.
Altavia
04-01-2023, 10:23 AM
Consult with an attorney to see if a trust company or a bank can be named as the executor of a will.
retiredguy123
04-01-2023, 10:42 AM
Consult with an attorney to see if a trust company or a bank can be named as the executor of a will.
Any bank will be delighted to be the executor of your will.
Gerrir
04-02-2023, 05:56 AM
I used a well established law firm here in the villages as my executor.
defrey12
04-02-2023, 06:08 AM
Any advice on naming an estate Executor for someone with no friends or family that would be suitable for that position?
In a way, I’d prefer enlisting a fiduciary at a reputable but smaller ‘get-to-know-you’ business rather than a larger less personal financial company, but don’t know how to find or evaluate such groups. Or if they’ll still be around when I’m not.
Just find an attorney 30 years younger than you. Likely they’ll be around when you’re not. Most of them will do it and are fiduciaries by definition. If you’re trying to get it done for nothing, good luck with that. Dying costs!
True Blue
04-02-2023, 06:28 AM
I would suggest that you attempt to convert as many assets as possible into a "transfer-on-death" ownership, so the will becomes less important. All of my assets are titled that way, except for my house. And, I am considering getting a ladybird deed for the house, so that there will be no need to probate my will because all of the assets will transfer automatically at death.
This is great advise and is exactly what our new Financial/Estate Planner (a fiduciary) told us recently.
Remembergoldenrule
04-02-2023, 07:29 AM
Having just been executor of dads finances. Please set up all your money accounts and stock ect accts with beneficiaries. Could be any charity or person you want. That way executor or anyone else can’t get to that for “expenses” Have a will that specifies what you want done with personal belongings such as give to or sell and give money to. When deciding on executor make sure you find out all fees and percentage associated with it. Look into title through trust maybe who gets house maybe charity or person you know who needs some money or house. I would definitely be asking these questions to estate planning atty so maybe for this forum the better question is who is good estate planner?
Kerlampert
04-02-2023, 07:32 AM
Katherine Barski, Bogin. Munns and Munns
HospitalCoder
04-02-2023, 07:57 AM
We have 5 people who will inherit our assets upon our deaths. Can a Lady Bird Deed be used in the case of a property going to more than one person?
Also. Is it customary to leave a sum of money in the will to an executor? I just realized that our executor may be required to fly to Florida upon our death and that will be expensive.
Maybe not customary but doable, especially if your executor is well informed of your wishes and trustworthy. My mother died last year and had many financial discussions with one of my siblings who she had designated as her executor. We were all aware of this and trusted her implicitly to handle things as our mother wished. My mother had let it be known to her that a certain account was to be used for expenses related to airfares for funeral attendance and anything else needed after her death. The remainder is going to be distributed to the family. Of course, my sister was also a co-signer on her accounts. That might make a difference. You could set up one account with the executor to handle expenses.
OhioBuckeye
04-02-2023, 07:57 AM
Oh man, good question! Get someone you’ve known a long time & you can trust to do what you want. Personally I would get some advice from a good lawyer, but I would never trust my whole life property to a lawyer. Just ask them for advice that you can agree with. We have a couple of friends that we would trust to do the right thing. But you did ask a very very good question!
OhioBuckeye
04-02-2023, 08:02 AM
Your mother sounds like a very caring person. But I think this persons question was they had absolutely NO family, nobody. That’s a tough question to answer. But I like your mothers wishes.
retiredguy123
04-02-2023, 08:05 AM
Maybe not customary but doable, especially if your executor is well informed of your wishes and trustworthy. My mother died last year and had many financial discussions with one of my siblings who she had designated as her executor. We were all aware of this and trusted her implicitly to handle things as our mother wished. My mother had let it be known to her that a certain account was to be used for expenses related to airfares for funeral attendance and anything else needed after her death. The remainder is going to be distributed to the family. Of course, my sister was also a co-signer on her accounts. That might make a difference. You could set up one account with the executor to handle expenses.
Note that the OP said there is no friend or family member who is suitable to be an executor. Any named executor is allowed to charge expenses to the estate.
bowlingal
04-02-2023, 08:10 AM
use your attorney as your executor. I used Joseph Pippen and Assoc in Fruitland Park ( Patrick Smith was the attorney). Get a trust not a plain will. I left money to Cornerstone Hospice and Humane society . A trust was $695.
retiredguy123
04-02-2023, 08:13 AM
use your attorney as your executor. I used Joseph Pippen and Assoc in Fruitland Park ( Patrick Smith was the attorney). Get a trust not a plain will. I left money to Cornerstone Hospice and Humane society . A trust was $695.
How is the trust any better than just having an account with the charity named as your beneficiary? No charge, and you don't even need a trust or a will. But, I would recommend a will.
lindaelane
04-02-2023, 08:58 AM
Wow! I am glad you posted today. - I am in the same situation as you are with no one suitable among family/friends to be executor. My estate goes to charity. My legacy, i.e. getting the funds to my charity, is very important to me.
Yes, all my accounts are TOD and my house has a ladybird deed. But there is more for your executor to do. Cancel credit cards, stop utilities, arrange sale of your house (probably "as it") and more. Your executor needs to have a summary sheet of all these things. But how to be sure you have thought of them all? See the next paragraph:
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My attorney is my executor (called "personal representative" in Florida wills). He is Wade Boyette with BCN law firm. His fee is 2% of my estate, which is the customary fee.
Cake End-of-Life Planning is going to help me finalize details for how my executor will hear of my death. As a safeguard, a person I know at my charity - Compassion, International - will check on me from time to time and has the contact information for my lawyer.
I have checked wit one estate planning attorney and two fiduciaries specializing in estate planning regarding trusts. A trust is not needed unless your assets are quite substantial. The successor Trustee, who distributes assets at your death, would charge the same 2% that your executor would plus you must pay to set up the trust. I have under 2 million - I am not sure where the cut-off is, but there is a point where a trust becomes advisable. An estate planning attorney can advise you.
I am told the hospital where your body is taken automatically notifies Social Security/Medicare. I am unsure about what happens if I die abroad but I am going to join Cake End-of-Life planning for help with those details.
My executor will make calls regarding my pre-arranged and pre-paid burial (cremation) and notify my cousins of my death if they do not already know. These things are in the summary sheet I have left for the executor. I have a "vial of life" on my refrigerator stating who should be notified if I die, but beyond that - in case I die away from home or the vial or the note in my wallet is missed - I am unsure what happens. However, I think my new Cake End-of-Life planning service will have ideas.
retiredguy123
04-02-2023, 09:05 AM
I would just point out that the ladybird deed should mean that the executor does not need to sell the house.
loufromnewjersey
04-02-2023, 06:57 PM
I have a ladybird deed with both my kids on it. It only means that any one named can get the deed from the county and bypass probate
jaj523
04-03-2023, 01:10 AM
My two children are on my lady bird deed with 50% ownership to each one.
jaj523
04-03-2023, 01:14 AM
I now have a ladybird deed but had a deed with joint tenancy with right of survivorship in my previous home. Am not sure what the difference is.
retiredguy123
04-03-2023, 03:12 AM
I now have a ladybird deed but had a deed with joint tenancy with right of survivorship in my previous home. Am not sure what the difference is.
There is a huge difference. With joint tenancy, both owners have equal rights to use the property, to borrow against it, or to sell it, and creditors can place a lien against the property for the debts of either owner. With a ladybird deed, the named beneficiary has no rights to do anything until the owner dies. And, the owner can change the deed at any time.
Villages Kahuna
04-03-2023, 11:28 AM
Don’t your trust one of your kids? Or don’t have the guts to choose one over the others to be Executor? Almost certainly one of them would be more reliable and less expensive than choosing someone you don’t know.
Altavia
04-03-2023, 03:30 PM
Don’t your trust one of your kids? Or don’t have the guts to choose one over the others to be Executor? Almost certainly one of them would be more reliable and less expensive than choosing someone you don’t know.
OP has no "suitable"family.
Not a fun job. Even more so if not local.
Having an executor planned could be a gift to your children, one less thing to deal with after your passing.
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