No more parking on the grass at Sawgrass

[kcrazorbackfan]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Looks like all the lazy people will now have to park where they’re supposed to.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

[vintageogauge]

Sad day for the EZ Park golf cars, great day for those that didn't like them there.

[DonH57]

An excellent day indeed !

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Too bad. I thought that they should have paved and striped that area to allow golf cart parking.

The parking lot is too small and you might end up parking a very long way away when it gets crowded.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Looks like all the lazy people will now have to park where they’re supposed to.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Are they all lazy or do some of them have physical issues that prevent them from walking a long way?

[DonH57]

Was the issue only the grass being tore up or was there an additional issue of safety of walkers and carts backing out into passing traffic. It is an multi modal path, correct?

[Jayhawk]

Are they all lazy or do some of them have physical issues that prevent them from walking a long way?

There are Handicapped spaces available in the parking lot.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Are they all lazy or do some of them have physical issues that prevent them from walking a long way?

Really? If they have a physical issue, they can be dropped off pretty close to Sawgrass, the person go park, in a correct area, and then go meet the person they let off.

I’ve been by there many times and everyone I’ve seen has always looked pretty able to walk a further distance.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Was the issue only the grass being tore up or was there an additional issue of safety of walkers and carts backing out into passing traffic. It is a multi modal path, correct?

The grass wasn’t being torn up, it was being destroyed due to the extreme dryness, along with all the safety issues you mentioned.

[Bogie Shooter]

Now if we can get the entitled that park at the curb in front of the grocery stores….to go park in the lot!

[asianthree]

Goldwing Nut will be very Happy:MOJE_whot:

[gatorbill1]

Will enforcement be done by same people who enforce it at other areas of TV?

[Kenswing]

Will enforcement be done by same people who enforce it at other areas of TV?

No enforcement needed. They replaced the grass with plants.

[DonH57]

The grass wasn’t being torn up, it was being destroyed due to the extreme dryness, along with all the safety issues you mentioned.

Speaking of safety I missed the meeting at the Savannah Rec Center concerning the speeding, unsafe passing, and vehicles that should be licensed using the MMP'S. I could hear the arguments from my house. LOL

[Boffin]

An interesting point might be that non-Street MMPs are private property making the use of law enforcement challenging.

[Michael 61]

Whether one felt they had a legitimate reason to park on the grass or not, that is besides the point. It was forbidden to do so - so those parking there were giving the middle finger and doing it anyway - we need to a people who respect and obey laws/ordinances, etc. If there is something we disagree with, there are ways to voice your concerns rather than flagrantly being disobedient.

[Djean1981]

Good. No one is "special."

[DonH57]

An interesting point might be that non-Street MMPs are private property making the use of law enforcement challenging.

That may have been one of the subjects discussed at that meeting. I really believe those that operate their golf cart recklessly speeding and passing on blind curves know if they ever cause an accident they won't be identified unless their cart was disabled by the accident. They'll go about their day.

[Michael 61]

I drove there tonight - it was Boozy Bingo at Sawgrass, and the place was packed, still I saw plenty of parking spaces, and only half of the golf cart spaces were occupied on the southside of the complex.

[Calisport]

They may park on the next section of grass unfortunately. St. Paddy's Day even cars drove and parked across the street on the grass.

[MrChip72]

Last time that I went to Sawgrass was in late January on a Thursday night with a band that definitely wasn't one of the bigger names. There was a ton of golf carts parked on the "illegal" grass area and there was still zero spots available in the whole parking lot all the way to the front of the Ezell Rec Center. There's just a complete lack of available parking there, and for the handicapped it appears like a tenfold problem. It would be like if Brownwood had 5 handicapped spots in the Square.

I'm not sure what problem that people parking on the grass was creating. It was actually more like a grassroots solution to a problem that the developer never thought about. Seems curious what the benefit is to anyone now that the parking will be even worse there.

[jimdecastro]

Are they all lazy or do some of them have physical issues that prevent them from walking a long way?

No. Lazy. They can add HC spots. But parking there was an eyesore and a safety issue.

[dhdallas]

Too bad. I thought that they should have paved and striped that area to allow golf cart parking.

The parking lot is too small and you might end up parking a very long way away when it gets crowded.

Oh no, you might have to walk a few hundred feet.

[Dusty_Star]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Looks like all the lazy people will now have to park where they’re supposed to.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Another solution would have been to turn the 'grassy spots' into real parking, which would have helped to alleviate the parking problem.

[Freehiker]

Are they all lazy or do some of them have physical issues that prevent them from walking a long way?

All the ones I’ve seen are just lazy.

[rsmurano]

The people that parked there were just lazy, period! The people that parked there are probably the 1’s that need to do a little walking. Even if you had to park near the pickleball courts, maybe you are talking a 300 feet away from the stage.
How would these same people feel if 50 golf carts would park on their front lawn every night? Since I live nearby, I don’t want to see the grass destroyed from carts parking on the grass

[BayLady57]

Really? If they have a physical issue, they can be dropped off pretty close to Sawgrass, the person go park, in a correct area, and then go meet the person they let off.

I’ve been by there many times and everyone I’ve seen has always looked pretty able to walk a further distance.

You may want to spend sometime in the VA clinic parking lot to witness the number of disabled Veterans who are able to drive themselves to their appointments either by golf cart or car as their disability does not impair their ability to drive but it does impair their ability to ambulate. Some of these Vets can't even ambulate without the assistance of a cane or walker, and others require wheelchairs and scooters. And unfortunately there are many who are mobility impaired who do not or no longer have a spouse, other family member or a friend who can drive them where they need to go and have no choice but to be as best as they can self reliant. I am sure that some that park on that strip of grass could very easily park in the parking lot and walk to the interior of Sawgrass from there. But don't assume this is the case with everyone who parks on the strip of grass who often remain in their carts to listen to the bands from there because getting inside with the assistance of a cane or walker along with lugging a chair as there is minimal seating inside Sawgrass is difficult if not impossible for them.

I agree with the poster who mentioned that strip of grass should have been instead a paved bank of handicapped golf cart parking spaces.

[rsimpson]

Funny thing - I never saw any signs that said "No Parking On Grass" - Is this a Golden Rule in TV?
Certainly a safety concern, though. Park and Walk, folks. From what I see every day, many/most living here could use a brisk walk every day or so.

[Bogie Shooter]

Funny thing - I never saw any signs that said "No Parking On Grass" - Is this a Golden Rule in TV?
Certainly a safety concern, though. Park and Walk, folks. From what I see every day, many/most living here could use a brisk walk every day or so.

Common sense?

[Wilson02852]

The some of the entitled old people got their nose broken on this one.

[MrFlorida]

It's about time, Goldwingnut has been complaining about this for a while now.

[Marathon Man]

Another solution would have been to turn the 'grassy spots' into real parking, which would have helped to alleviate the parking problem.

This is not unlike those who claim that there is a parking problem at SS and SL because they have to walk a bit.

There is no parking problem. We have been there many times and have always found a parking spot. Always.

[Robbb]

Whether one felt they had a legitimate reason to park on the grass or not, that is besides the point. It was forbidden to do so - so those parking there were giving the middle finger and doing it anyway - we need to a people who respect and obey laws/ordinances, etc. If there is something we disagree with, there are ways to voice your concerns rather than flagrantly being disobedient.

How sad, what happened to us. We were the rebellious generation, the generation who walked on Washington, walked on Selma, protested on campuses, questioned authority. Now whenever a Karen complains we trip over ourselves to comply. We have become the people we made fun of when we were young. Good Lord, who cares if you park on the fing lawn.

[Jim 9922]

The Planners should have anticipated the problem when designing the area. They had the same cart parking problem at Lake Sumter Landing on the grass area at the northeast corner across from the square. The problem was finally solved by installing wood posts and roping off the area.

[jimkerr]

Too bad. I thought that they should have paved and striped that area to allow golf cart parking.

The parking lot is too small and you might end up parking a very long way away when it gets crowded.

The parking lot isn’t too small. People are just lazy.

[Mikee1]

Most of those lanes are not marked as fire lanes and do not have no parking signs, why is it illegal to park there???

Now if we can get the entitled that park at the curb in front of the grocery stores….to go park in the lot!

[Altavia]

Scooping out the dirt and putting down gravel could have been a no maintenance solution and fit the train yard theme.

[Gator_Girl]

All grass shouldn't be paved!

[ron32162]

I have not been to sawgrass yet but your comment is so childish

[Bogie Shooter]

Most of those lanes are not marked as fire lanes and do not have no parking signs, why is it illegal to park there???

Have you ever come out of the store and found a car parked right next to the crosswalk? Step past that car and have another car passing and almost hitting you? Illegal probably not. Inconsiderate brain-dead elitist stupidity? Yes

[Keefelane66]

“ Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot’
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum *
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em “ Joni

[Robbb]

“ Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot’
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum *
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em “ Joni

Her best song.

[maistocars]

Great news indeed. It was really hard driving down the multi-modal at night with the people darting across the MM path to get to/from their carts. We park over in the golf cart-only area by the golf shop and there are always spaces there. Come on people.

[MX rider]

This is not unlike those who claim that there is a parking problem at SS and SL because they have to walk a bit.

There is no parking problem. We have been there many times and have always found a parking spot. Always.

Exactly!
Many people are just too lazy to walk even a little bit. We see it all the time at LSL. People will drive around for 10 minutes just trying to find a spot so they don't have to walk 2 blocks. Yes, some have health issues but most don't.

That's why we're one of the most obese countries in the world. Far to many people exercise way too little, and eat way too much. It's a nationwide problem.

[Michael 61]

I’m at Sawgrass all the time, NEVER could I not find a legal parking spot - I’m not buying the posts that say there is no parking available.

[txfan]

Goldwing Nut will be very Happy:MOJE_whot:

And he'll be certain to pat himself on the back in the next "I can't afford to do this anymore without your subscription/ads/sponsorships even though I did it for years before" video.

He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress.

The solution should have been to close off the sidewalk leading to Sawgrass. Carts will still be parked along the MMP as close as they can get to that sidewalk entrance. We'll see.

[Bogie Shooter]

And he'll be certain to pat himself on the back in the next "I can't afford to do this anymore without your subscription/ads/sponsorships even though I did it for years before" video.

He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress.

The solution should have been to close off the sidewalk leading to Sawgrass. Carts will still be parked along the MMP as close as they can get to that sidewalk entrance. We'll see.

Well this is a first! Now people bashing……..

[Jayhawk]

And he'll be certain to pat himself on the back in the next "I can't afford to do this anymore without your subscription/ads/sponsorships even though I did it for years before" video.



He provides a great service requiring his time and equipment. It is his business. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Most people appreciate the guy and the product which costs us (you) nothing.

[txfan]

He provides a great service requiring his time and equipment. It is his business. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Most people appreciate the guy and the product which costs us (you) nothing.

I clearly stated that "He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress."

Do you think the people at Culvers appreciate the product?

[Papa_lecki]

And he'll be certain to pat himself on the back in the next "I can't afford to do this anymore without your subscription/ads/sponsorships even though I did it for years before" video.

Don does a really GOOD job with the ads. They are not too intrusive, many just appear on the bottom
I don’t need any of the items his advertiser sell, but if I were looking for say an irrigation person or a pool person, I would trust his advertisers over a google search.
He’s as close to a neighbor recommendation as there is.

Sponsors I would suggest (if they advertise with Don, they would be busier than anyone)
Painter
Kitchen remodel
Mobile Golf car repair/oil change
Lawn maintenance
Landscaper

[Jayhawk]

I clearly stated that "He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress."

Do you think the people at Culvers appreciate the product?

I doubt Culver's watches a YouTube from The Villages. And yes you said his work is good, but you qualified that by complaining about him having advertisers that pay your freight so it won't cost you anything. I'll bet that you didn't work without compensation.

[ithos]

What was the complaint about Culvers?-

[Bill14564]

I clearly stated that "He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress."

Do you think the people at Culvers appreciate the product?

Out of curiosity, in which video did he bash Culver's? I don't watch his videos but I am interested in what he had to say.

[gighilton]

What about the handicapped! Hahahaha to them too?

[Dond1959]

Out of curiosity, in which video did he bash Culver's? I don't watch his videos but I am interested in what he had to say.

The only thing Don has stated is that he doesn’t get it, and it’s not his favorite. No bashing, he just doesn’t go there. Obviously many people love it and that is great. We all have likes and dislikes and he is free to share his. Don spends a lot of time and research to keep us informed about this place. I am appreciative of the work he does and I don’t mind the ads in the videos so he can make a little bit of money to try and offset a portion of his costs.

[ithos]

The only thing Don has stated is that he doesn’t get it, and it’s not his favorite. No bashing, he just doesn’t go there. Obviously many people love it and that is great. We all have likes and dislikes and he is free to share his. Don spends a lot of time and research to keep us informed about this place. I am appreciative of the work he does and I don’t mind the ads in the videos so he can make a little bit of money to try and offset a portion of his costs.

I will say this, Captain Ds has far better fried fish. And I have had their Rueben and it was very bland. But the service and condiments are top notch. Nobody better in that regard.

[rsimpson]

Common sense?

Carts Drive on Grass every day?? Golf Courses have grass. No rails, no signs, if no parking is what they wanted, make it a bit more obvious. (Like PLANTS!)

[bluecenturian]

Here is a great solution. Rent the space to all those that feel there is not enough parking and they are too entitled to walk from the parking lot. My amnesties fees should not have to pay to replace the grass or Maintenace of this area because of some spoiled entitle minded selfish people. There has not been a time I have seen no parking spots. You know you can park all the way back by the rec center and walk. That’s a pretty big lot to say there is no spots. And I am a veteran with 2 hip replacements, in need of both knees to be replaced and screws in my ankle but I walk because I don’t feel entitled or that the world owes me something for my injuries.

[VApeople]

I don't have a dog in this fight since we do not own a golf cart and we do not go to Sawgrass, but I do have an opinion.

I think people drive crazy in golf carts. Since they now have to park with the cars in the parking lots, I think it will be more dangerous for the pedestrians walking from their cars to the entertainment. I'll be interested to see what happens.

Incidentally, the only time we park there is when we want to use the beautiful walking/biking trails along the lakes, but we park way in the back so golf cart traffic is not a problem for us.

[Marathon Man]

And he'll be certain to pat himself on the back in the next "I can't afford to do this anymore without your subscription/ads/sponsorships even though I did it for years before" video.

He does good work, no doubt, however. Just cut out the poor-mouthing and public desecration of businesses like Culvers, and show the progress.

The solution should have been to close off the sidewalk leading to Sawgrass. Carts will still be parked along the MMP as close as they can get to that sidewalk entrance. We'll see.

Watching his videos is optional. Not to mention, he can talk about anything he chooses. They are not Public Service videos.

[Marathon Man]

Carts Drive on Grass every day?? Golf Courses have grass. No rails, no signs, if no parking is what they wanted, make it a bit more obvious. (Like PLANTS!)

Really? You have to be told not to park on the grass next to the road when there is a parking lot for that purpose?

[lane4vols]

What was the exact law/ordinance they were breaking?

[Joe V.]

What was the exact law/ordinance were they breaking?:1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

What about the handicapped! Hahahaha to them too?

Is this a new topic for this thread?

[brianherlihy]

i was driving and men and women would move and told me to go in the road sawgrass what a lot of bad men and women

[JMintzer]

What was the complaint about Culvers?-

He had the absolute audacity to actually say that Culver's "was not his cup of tea"...

Can you believe it???

He also trashed WaWa by saying "it seems like just another big gas station, I don't get it"...

My god, the man is off the rails! [/sarcasm]

[JMintzer]

I don't have a dog in this fight since we do not own a golf cart and we do not go to Sawgrass, but I do have an opinion.

I think people drive crazy in golf carts. Since they now have to park with the cars in the parking lots, I think it will be more dangerous for the pedestrians walking from their cars to the entertainment. I'll be interested to see what happens.

Incidentally, the only time we park there is when we want to use the beautiful walking/biking trails along the lakes, but we park way in the back so golf cart traffic is not a problem for us.

"Since they now have to park with the cars in the parking lots..."

This is something new? They've ALWAYS parked with the cars, all over TV...

[asianthree]

What was the exact law/ordinance they were breaking?

The developer owns the property, he can choose rules, anytime, anywhere. Their house their rules.

It wasn’t a parking area, but those who felt special parked on the grass, sit in their golf cart with a view of the back of the boxcar, drinking whatever they packed in their cooler. It wasn’t a handicap parking, those are in the paved lot. Have never been to Sawgrass, that parking was not available.

Some just feel too special to park in the designated areas. Guessing they are also the chosen few who park in the fire lane when they go shopping.

[Number 10 GI]

In some cities there are companies that put boots on cars illegally parked on private property, usually business parking lots. It can be pretty expensive to pay the boot company the fee to remove the boot. The best way to get someone to comply with laws/ordnances is usually through their wallet.
There have been a few threads on this forum from people who are asking about what kind of business to start up. Here is your opportunity!

[vintageogauge]

"Since they now have to park with the cars in the parking lots..."

This is something new? They've ALWAYS parked with the cars, all over TV...
There is still plenty of room for them to park on the grass among the trees and shrubs and I'm sure you will see that the next busy evening.

[VApeople]

"Since they now have to park with the cars in the parking lots..."

This is something new? They've ALWAYS parked with the cars, all over TV...

Yeah, it is something new.

On the rare occasions we go to Brownwood, most golf carts want to park along the square or one of the roads, like right in front of City Fire. We park in one of the parking lots where there are very few carts.

At Sawgrass, cars and carts will be parking in the same lots. The way some cart drivers whip around, there might be more pedestrian injuries.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Another solution would have been to turn the 'grassy spots' into real parking, which would have helped to alleviate the parking problem.

Yeah, that will really help with carts backing out in front of oncoming carts, people gathered on the MMP talking (oblivious to oncoming carts) or people walking across the MMP (again oblivious to oncoming carts), won’t it? Think!

[kcrazorbackfan]

What about the handicapped! Hahahaha to them too?

To each their own; the grass wasn’t for people that are handicapped to park on. Why can’t people understand that? Let them get somewhere early enough to get a designated marked handicapped parking spot. Why should they get special privileges TO PARK ON GRASS?

[kcrazorbackfan]

I have not been to sawgrass yet but your comment is so childish

So which of the 38 previous posts are you referring to? Kind of childish to miss that, wasn’t it?

[mikemalloy]

There are Handicapped spaces available in the parking lot.
Finding a handicap spot open in Fla. is like looking for ice in the Sahara. We occasionally go to McGrady's. The entrance is far from the parking lot for those with limited walking ability. Parking on the grass made the trip much shorter. Some day I hope the hyenas get to know what that's like.

[Marathon Man]

Finding a handicap spot open in Fla. is like looking for ice in the Sahara. We occasionally go to McGrady's. The entrance is far from the parking lot for those with limited walking ability. Parking on the grass made the trip much shorter. Some day I hope the hyenas get to know what that's like.

Parking on the sidewalk just outside of the door would make the walk even shorter. That is the logic being used above.

[BlueStarAirlines]

Some day I hope the hyenas get to know what that's like.

America's friendliest hometown!

[kansasr]

The developer owns the property, he can choose rules, anytime, anywhere. Their house their rules.

It wasn’t a parking area, but those who felt special parked on the grass, sit in their golf cart with a view of the back of the boxcar, drinking whatever they packed in their cooler. It wasn’t a handicap parking, those are in the paved lot. Have never been to Sawgrass, that parking was not available.

Some just feel too special to park in the designated areas. Guessing they are also the chosen few who park in the fire lane when they go shopping.

Actually that little strip of land (and the MMP) are owned by The VIllages CDD, not the developer

[Bilyclub]

Actually that little strip of land (and the MMP) are owned by The VIllages CDD, not the developer

District 13's board is still made up of developer appointees.

[JMintzer]

Yeah, it is something new.

On the rare occasions we go to Brownwood, most golf carts want to park along the square or one of the roads, like right in front of City Fire. We park in one of the parking lots where there are very few carts.

At Sawgrass, cars and carts will be parking in the same lots. The way some cart drivers whip around, there might be more pedestrian injuries.

There are ALWAYS cars and carts parked in the big parking lots. Especially in the evenings and on Market Nights...

[asianthree]

Finding a handicap spot open in Fla. is like looking for ice in the Sahara. We occasionally go to McGrady's. The entrance is far from the parking lot for those with limited walking ability. Parking on the grass made the trip much shorter. Some day I hope the hyenas get to know what that's like.

Sorry, but your issues are the same for many in a retirement community. If you have someone with you the best walker can drop off.

Yesterday at lap lanes, I parked next to a WW2 guy getting out of his cart. He could barely walk, but was heading in to swim. He didn’t park next to the sidewalk or entry, but in a non handicap spot.

I said take your time, I will get a lane for you. I took the closest lane, sat down and waited. I waited 11 minutes before his smiling face arrived at the lane. I thanked him for his service to our country, and gave him my lane. Saving lanes is not allowed, but I could give up my lane and it was an honor.

After he finished I took the lane, yep I had to wait, but his smile when he left and a thank you for being so kind, was all one needs to make their day better.

So no matter how many issues you think you have, there are always those who have a little more.

[rustyp]

$35000 to landscape that little strip of land which is really not visible to anyone other than from the parking lot to prevent golf cart parking. Wonder how much it would have cost to pave over that postage stamp area and stripe it for golf carts only. Having golf carts parked in an orderly line like a cruise night is something I would enjoy more than that little strip of grass. To me it would add to the ambience of the area and reinforce the fact that we are a golf cart community. Don't start - I did not say pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

[VApeople]

reinforce the fact that we are a golf cart community.

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

[rustyp]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Darn another lie told to me by my real estate "sales agent" .

[Bill14564]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Which makes me wonder how to complete this sentence:

The difference between the Villages and a golf cart community is _________

[Normal]

There NEVER EVER WAS AUTHORIZED parking on the grass. Everyone who parked there kind of knew that and were semi conscious of the issue. The Villages and CD knew about the situation well beforehand, but it was advantageous to wait till the snowbirds left. The delay permitted businesses to take root and establish clientele. The timing was impeccable for all.

[tophcfa]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Hmmm, I don’t know that. See the sign on Morse Blvd. that says welcome to the Villages, a golf cart community!

[Papa_lecki]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.


Ohhh, for sale the two golf carts in my garage -
didn’t realize we weren’t a golf cart community.

[EviesGP]

Now that we've solved this issue, can we get the CDDs to pave some parking lots next to all the greens on the golf courses?!

[Bilyclub]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

Hmmm.

[Altavia]

And now have to pay to maintain it.

Adding paving has complications previously explained by GoldWingnut but wonder what the cost to dig up the sod and replace with gravel may have been...

[Normal]

And now have to pay to maintain it.

Adding paving has complications previously explained by GoldWingnut but wonder what the cost to dig up the sod and replace with gravel may have been...

Ya, because there is gravel everywhere in the Villages?

[VApeople]

The difference between the Villages and a golf cart community is _________

That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

[Dotneko]

The rusted looking boxcar is an eyesore imo. Glad my house is far away and I dont have to see it regularly. The only thing missing is graffiti painted on it.
The line of golf carts was cute and it saved the real spots for the cars.
I have bicycled by there when they were parked and did not see the issue.

Golf carts park on the verge all over the Villages. Next to the golf course on 466a and Morse there are usually a half dozen carts with people watching play.
Below 44 on Meggison on the way to Brownwood there are carts parked where people pick up the walking paths by St Johns. On Morse below Havana CC there are people parking to walk their dogs. None of these spots is a designated parking area.
This is selective enforcement at Sawgrass.

[fdpaq0580]

That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

Per the sign on post #90, you have been living in a golf cart community and never knew it. SURPRISE!!

"OH happy day. OH happy day. When I first drove, drove my golf cart away."

[fdpaq0580]

Sorry, but your issues are the same for many in a retirement community. If you have someone with you the best walker can drop off.

Yesterday at lap lanes, I parked next to a WW2 guy getting out of his cart. He could barely walk, but was heading in to swim. He didn’t park next to the sidewalk or entry, but in a non handicap spot.

I said take your time, I will get a lane for you. I took the closest lane, sat down and waited. I waited 11 minutes before his smiling face arrived at the lane. I thanked him for his service to our country, and gave him my lane. Saving lanes is not allowed, but I could give up my lane and it was an honor.

After he finished I took the lane, yep I had to wait, but his smile when he left and a thank you for being so kind, was all one needs to make their day better.

So no matter how many issues you think you have, there are always those who have a little more.

Thank you very much for the kindness, courtesy and respect you showed to one of the few remaining from our WWII veterans. Decency is not dead! You give me hope for the future.

[JMintzer]

As you know, we are not a golf cart community.

Sure, a lot of people have golf carts, but the law does give them any special rights. They have their own paths and bridges where I cannot drive my car, but every time one of their paths intersects the road where I am driving, they have a stop sign.

If you say so...

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Damn! Broke my own rule! Didn't finish the thread before posting...

[VApeople]

Per the sign on post #90, you have been living in a golf cart community and never knew it.

Is that one sign all it takes to be a certified 'golf cart community'?

[JMintzer]

Is that one sign all it takes to be a certified 'golf cart community'?

How 'bout this?

The Villages - Top Golf Cart Community in the US - GolfCarts.org (https://golfcarts.org/the-villages-top-golf-cart-community-in-the-us/)

The Villages - The Largest Golf Cart Community in the World | Golf Cart Resource (https://golfcartresource.com/villages-largest-golf-cart-community-world/)

https://www.**************.com/2021/07/06/the-villages-is-a-golf-cart-community/

[Bogie Shooter]

The rusted looking boxcar is an eyesore imo. Glad my house is far away and I dont have to see it regularly. The only thing missing is graffiti painted on it.
The line of golf carts was cute and it saved the real spots for the cars.
I have bicycled by there when they were parked and did not see the issue.

Golf carts park on the verge all over the Villages. Next to the golf course on 466a and Morse there are usually a half dozen carts with people watching play.
Below 44 on Meggison on the way to Brownwood there are carts parked where people pick up the walking paths by St Johns. On Morse below Havana CC there are people parking to walk their dogs. None of these spots is a designated parking area.
This is selective enforcement at Sawgrass.

I like the boxcar…….

[VApeople]

How 'bout this?

The Villages - Top Golf Cart Community in the US - GolfCarts.org (https://golfcarts.org/the-villages-top-golf-cart-community-in-the-us/)

The Villages - The Largest Golf Cart Community in the World | Golf Cart Resource (https://golfcartresource.com/villages-largest-golf-cart-community-world/)

https://www.**************.com/2021/07/06/the-villages-is-a-golf-cart-community/

None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.

North of Route 44, there are some paths where cars are prohibited but golf carts are allowed, so maybe that area could be called a 'golf cart community''.

But south of Route 44, there are many more miles of paths where golf carts are forbidden but bikes are allowed, so maybe that area should be called a 'bicycle community'.

[fdpaq0580]

How 'bout this?

The Villages - Top Golf Cart Community in the US - GolfCarts.org (https://golfcarts.org/the-villages-top-golf-cart-community-in-the-us/)

The Villages - The Largest Golf Cart Community in the World | Golf Cart Resource (https://golfcartresource.com/villages-largest-golf-cart-community-world/)

https://www.**************.com/2021/07/06/the-villages-is-a-golf-cart-community/

Thanks for your support! Sincerely, Fred

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I like the boxcar…….

I'd like it much better if it had a garden gnome on the platform and a tacky pink flamingo displayed through the window.

[rustyp]

None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.

North of Route 44, there are some paths where cars are prohibited but golf carts are allowed, so maybe that area could be called a 'golf cart community''.

But south of Route 44, there are many more miles of paths where golf carts are forbidden but bikes are allowed, so maybe that area should be called a 'bicycle community'.

OK - so we can have an intelligent conversation with you please point us to

1- the criteria of what a golf cart community are (and souce)
2 - a concrete example of one that has earned the distinguished designation

Google has finally failed me. In fact most google responses were The Villages was the number 1 golf cart community in the WORLD.

Facts:
Sign -1 point
Irrational Bantor - 0 points

[rustyp]

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[VApeople]

OK - so we can have an intelligent conversation with you please point us to

1- the criteria of what a golf cart community are (and souce)
2 - a concrete example of one that has earned the distinguished designation


See my response in post #93.

That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

[Bill14564]

That is a very good question and I am curious what answer will be given.

As for myself, I have no idea because I have never lived in bona-fide "golf cart community".

You don't know what a golf cart community is but you know this is not one. OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

[tophcfa]

No more parking on the grass at Sawgrass, time to rename it Sawasphalt.

[Dotneko]

I like the boxcar…….

Well, it looks like my life came full circle. As a kid, we were made fun of because we lived near 'the tracks' - a railroad yard about a half mile from my house. Here i am again living near the tracks - about a half mile away. When we bought and were told about sawgrass being built we did not know it was a downscale venue. Nobody asked me about decorating it.

[fdpaq0580]

Well, it looks like my life came full circle. As a kid, we were made fun of because we lived near 'the tracks' - a railroad yard about a half mile from my house. Here i am again living near the tracks - about a half mile away. When we bought and were told about sawgrass being built we did not know it was a downscale venue. Nobody asked me about decorating it.

Awww! That is so sad. Someone needs a hug.😊

[VApeople]

OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

[coffeebean]

Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

What makes The Villages a "golf cart community" is the infrastructure which allows golf cart access to just about anything you would want or need in your daily life. What community in the world, other than The Villages, has golf cart access to over 100 restaurants, medical facilities of all types, and all sorts of retail stores? I'll answer that: NONE. The infrastructure in The Villages includes MMPs, diamond lanes in the smaller roadways, golf cart bridges and golf cart tunnels.

The Villages is most certainly a golf cart community.

[Bill14564]

Because there is nothing special about owning and driving a golf cart. It is just one more method of transportation.

We residents drive trucks, golf carts, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles to get where we want to go. The Villages is no more a 'golf cart community' than it is a 'motorcycle community".

In my signature block I list five places I have lived. In exactly one of those places am I able to drive a golf cart down the middle of many streets. It is the same place where several of the streets marked with a lane for golf carts. It is the same place where golf cart paths are provided along the streets on which I am not allowed to drive my golf cart. It is the same place where golf-cart-only tunnels and bridges have been built to connect the golf cart paths on opposite sides of major highways. In exactly one of those five places am I likely to see more golf carts parked at an event than trucks, bicycles, cars, and motorcycles combined.

That is certainly not a legal description but if it doesn't make the Villages a golf cart community then I can't even begin to imagine what would. You call it what you like, I'll continue to enjoy life in my golf cart community.

[rustyp]

If you say so...

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You don't know what a golf cart community is but you know this is not one. OK then, why is the Villages NOT a golf cart community?

None of those articles specified exactly what it takes to be a so-called 'golf cart community'.


"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it must be a duck"

[tophcfa]

"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it must be a duck"

End of discussion, the Villages IS a golf cart community. And that’s the 16th hole at Tierra Del Sol across the street in the above picture.

[Bay Kid]

I know this is a golf cart community because I don't have a car here, but I still get to everything I need.

[VApeople]

What makes The Villages a "golf cart community" is the infrastructure which allows golf cart access to just about anything you would want or need in your daily life.

I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

[Papa_lecki]

I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

Well, literally, every place in the country with a road is a car/truck community.
Not every place is a golf cart community.

[Bill14564]

And with that, another troll is added to my ignore list.

[rustyp]

I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

Good luck - if this place were not a golf cart community those "truck" roads would turn into giant parking lots.

[dewilson58]

Went past the area this morning.................Looks Great!!!

Very nice addition.

[coffeebean]

I can get to those same places in my car, my truck, on my bike, or on my motorcycle.

Does that make The Villages a "truck community"?

I don't think you get it.

[VApeople]

OK - so we can have an intelligent conversation with you please point us to

1- the criteria of what a golf cart community are
2 - a concrete example of one that has earned the distinguished designation


My answer to 1: A community where the golf carts have priority over cars.

My answer to 2: The Viera community near Cocoa Beach.

We went to Viera a few years ago for a lunch and a nice nature walk. Like The Villages, there were a lot of cars and golf carts, but in cases where the roads intersected the golf cart path, THE GOLF CARTS HAD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY!

That was quite a change for us. We are used to The Villages where cars have the right-of-way every time a road intersects a cart path. I would not like to live in a true golf cart community.

By the way, we thought Cocoa Beach was a crummy area and we would never go back.

[dewilson58]

WAY OFF TOPIC.


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