Amenity Fees - Increased?

[ouicestmoi]

Hi there! I am new to TV and to the TOTV Forum and I searched but did not find a prior post that answers the question I'm about to ask...

I closed on my home in December last year.

I noticed that amenity fees were going up based on this article excerpt:

"These adjustments from the Consumer Price Index will impact the contractual amenity fee for all homeowners who closed on their houses after Jan. 1, 2023 and all new homes built in The Villages on and after Jan. 1, 2023.

Previously, the amenity fees for these homes was set at a rate of $179. Now, these rates — also known as prevailing rates — will be se to $189, according to a letter released by Robert Chandler IV, The Villages Vice President of Development."

I noticed that mine went up to $189.80 this utility bill.

I called utilities and they sent a voicemail Indicating that they could go up every year in april.

Could anyone point me to clarification on this question? I was not aware they could continue to go up? I thought they were set based on when you bought your house.

If they are reassessed every year then that's something I have to deal with but is there a percentage cap on how much they go up (so that you can budget?)
Thanks!

[Keefelane66]

Oh no grasshopper they will increase.

[Bill14564]

Hi there! I am new to TV and to the TOTV Forum and I searched but did not find a prior post that answers the question I'm about to ask...

I closed on my home in December last year.

I noticed that amenity fees were going up based on this article excerpt:

"These adjustments from the Consumer Price Index will impact the contractual amenity fee for all homeowners who closed on their houses after Jan. 1, 2023 and all new homes built in The Villages on and after Jan. 1, 2023.

Previously, the amenity fees for these homes was set at a rate of $179. Now, these rates — also known as prevailing rates — will be se to $189, according to a letter released by Robert Chandler IV, The Villages Vice President of Development."

I noticed that mine went up to $189.80 this utility bill.

I called utilities and they sent a voicemail Indicating that they could go up every year in april.

Could anyone point me to clarification on this question? I was not aware they could continue to go up? I thought they were set based on when you bought your house.

If they are reassessed every year then that's something I have to deal with but is there a percentage cap on how much they go up (so that you can budget?)
Thanks!

Look in your deed restrictions and you will find that they go up every year based on the CPI. You will see the increase in the month your house was originally sold which may not be the same as the month you bought it.

POSSIBLE calculation: you closed on your home last year when the contractual rate was $179. The CPI is currently 6%. If you just reached the anniversary date for your home, your new rate will be $179 plus 6% which comes out to $189.80.

[Garywt]

Mine has gone up 4 times in 3 years. Usually about $2-3 but the last one was about $10. Originally it was explained that we would pay based on when we bought our house and only new purchased would pay a higher amount based on when they bought but that has changed. Now everyone pays an increase each year but it is still a bargain.

[Bogie Shooter]

Do a search on here.....lot of threads on amenity fee increases.

[Papa_lecki]

They go up by CPI, on the anniversary date that the ORIGINAL buyer closed - not you.

[gobuck827]

Here is an explanation that Don Wiley posted in response to a similar question in a thread from last summer;

"The Annual CPI adjustment is calculated monthly for the previous 12 months. This CPI adjustment is applied on the month of the original contract for the home. The month remains the same no matter how many times the home is sold. While the number changes from month to month, long term it works out pretty close to equal for two homes with the same initial rate and different anniversary months, yes there may be some small rounding errors, but in the end it is a very small difference.

There will be occasions where a home's amenity fee may take 2 jumps in a year - a home with an anniversary of April sells in February, in February the home assumes the current prevailing rate and then in April the annual CPI causes another increase.

If you buy a spec home the dates can appear disconnected from the sale date. Spec home contracts are released in lots that are all or part of a subdivision/unit, but the actual home sale date or even build start date can be different by many months. This certainly adds to the confusion of the dates. Custom-build homes will also each have varying dates.

It's been suggested that we change the date so that all homes have the same CPI adjustment month. This would have a huge backlash. If such a change were proposed there would be an uproar that it is unfair. Say for example the decision was made to that on October 1st everyone would get the same CPI adjustment, only the people in October would be happy, everyone else would be upset because they would have to pay more sooner since they just had a CPI adjustment in ____ (November through September) and would be being penalized by the "early" adjustment. Of course, this would have an impact on home sales also, people would hold off buying in July, August, and September because they would have to pay the prevailing rate increase on resales only to be shortly thereafter hit with the CPI adjustment. Then there would be a huge spike in sales from October to December. It would have a negative impact on the marketplace.

Yes, the District Budget and Finance departments would love to have only one CPI adjustment date and only one rate for everyone in The Villages, their lives and work would be so much simpler, but it will never happen. Just look at the complaining that goes on over the current CPI adjustments, adjustments that are in the agreements you signed when you bought your home. These were never a secret; the terms were right there in black and white on the papers you signed. If you didn't read and understand them at the time, whose fault is that?"

[Gpsma]

Dont inderstand why this minimal increases in amenity fees get people so upset. Guess some entitled Villages think when they move here that nothing should increase.

[EdFNJ]

Dont inderstand why this minimal increases in amenity fees get people so upset. Guess some entitled Villages think when they move here that nothing should increase.LOL, I think the "entitled" word is so worn out already here. Just about any complaint elicits the "entitled" response these days.

Just because one questions or complains about a fee or whatever going up doesn't mean they should just accept it without question or should HAPPILY accept it just because things get more expensive. Is one "entitled" because they complain the price of gas is up or the cost of eggs is up? Should they just suck it up because "things go up" ?

Don't you think people are "entitled" to post a gripe without being labeled "entitled". :loco: :a20:

[Gpsma]

LOL, I think the "entitled" word is so worn out already here. Just about any complaint elicits the "entitled" response these days.

Just because one questions or complains about a fee or whatever going up doesn't mean they should just accept it without question or should HAPPILY accept it just because things get more expensive. Is one "entitled" because they complain the price of gas is up or the cost of eggs is up? Should they just suck it up because "things go up" ?

Don't you think people are "entitled" to post a gripe without being labeled "entitled". :loco: :a20:

Nope…they are entitled to not ever paying a penny more…yep, entitled.

[Pairadocs]

Dont inderstand why this minimal increases in amenity fees get people so upset. Guess some entitled Villages think when they move here that nothing should increase.

Or, they may have not understood, or they may not have been told anything and did not KNOW the right questions to ask, and most of all, they may, like so many retired folks, be on a fixed income that does not increase by substantial amount each year. People, like relatives of ours, who had to move recently, actually are intelligent, and they do their "homework", but no one PLANS on "things going up" by 50%, hamburger that was $3.29 not that long ago is $6.99, gasoline they tell us, is heading to $5.00 since we cut back our drilling and then insulted the wrong person (!) in the Mideast. People are hurting, that's why they get so upset, no one goes out of their way to explain these things and so many try to ask the "right" questions but just don't know exactly what to ask ! Yes, people are hurting, and in a retirement community like ours, a lot of people are hurting. It may not even be today's amenity bill, it's what next year will bring. Hope that helps you understand just a bit. You may have more money, or you may have more investments bringing in larger amounts of money each year than some other people, so you don't worry as much as some others might. Hope that helps to clarify a bit.

[Mountie]

Or, they may have not understood, or they may not have been told anything and did not KNOW the right questions to ask, and most of all, they may, like so many retired folks, be on a fixed income that does not increase by substantial amount each year. People, like relatives of ours, who had to move recently, actually are intelligent, and they do their "homework", but no one PLANS on "things going up" by 50%, hamburger that was $3.29 not that long ago is $6.99, gasoline they tell us, is heading to $5.00 since we cut back our drilling and then insulted the wrong person (!) in the Mideast. People are hurting, that's why they get so upset, no one goes out of their way to explain these things and so many try to ask the "right" questions but just don't know exactly what to ask ! Yes, people are hurting, and in a retirement community like ours, a lot of people are hurting. It may not even be today's amenity bill, it's what next year will bring. Hope that helps you understand just a bit. You may have more money, or you may have more investments bringing in larger amounts of money each year than some other people, so you don't worry as much as some others might. Hope that helps to clarify a bit.

Ouic'est moi, bonjour, If you're a francophone or interested in the french language, have you looked into the french conversation group? Also french courses are here.

I believe that you accidently missed putting in a space in your response in French. It should read "Oui c'est moi" instead of "Ouic'est moi". A small typo but it will confuse a beginner in French. And the translation to English is "Yes, it's me".
But I adore your using French. It broadens everyone's knowledge.

[Worldseries27]

hi there! I am new to tv and to the totv forum and i searched but did not find a prior post that answers the question i'm about to ask...

I closed on my home in december last year.

I noticed that amenity fees were going up based on this article excerpt:

"these adjustments from the consumer price index will impact the contractual amenity fee for all homeowners who closed on their houses after jan. 1, 2023 and all new homes built in the villages on and after jan. 1, 2023.

Previously, the amenity fees for these homes was set at a rate of $179. Now, these rates — also known as prevailing rates — will be se to $189, according to a letter released by robert chandler iv, the villages vice president of development."

i noticed that mine went up to $189.80 this utility bill.

I called utilities and they sent a voicemail indicating that they could go up every year in april.

Could anyone point me to clarification on this question? I was not aware they could continue to go up? I thought they were set based on when you bought your house.

If they are reassessed every year then that's something i have to deal with but is there a percentage cap on how much they go up (so that you can budget?)
thanks!
welcome to letter " a " of a to z of the financial fastballs aimed at our heads. however, man's best friend is always there to cheer you up

[Dusty_Star]

LOL, I think the "entitled" word is so worn out already here. Just about any complaint elicits the "entitled" response these days.

Just because one questions or complains about a fee or whatever going up doesn't mean they should just accept it without question or should HAPPILY accept it just because things get more expensive. Is one "entitled" because they complain the price of gas is up or the cost of eggs is up? Should they just suck it up because "things go up" ?

Don't you think people are "entitled" to post a gripe without being labeled "entitled". :loco: :a20:

You are completely right EdFNJ! Tossing the word 'entitled' around is lazy. Lazy thinking, lazy writing, & a lazy contribution to the discussion. The word is way overused, but actually thinking about the topic & response is WAY too much work for some people. It happens. Do you remember the 1970's? For many people the operative word for any situation was 'sh!t', it was a noun, an adjective, an exclamation. Fortunately the fad passed & like then it is now past time to retire a word so overused it has become meaningless. (Except in a few situations where things actually are sh!tty :duck:)

[ouicestmoi]

"...Just look at the complaining that goes on over the current CPI adjustments, adjustments that are in the agreements you signed when you bought your home. These were never a secret; the terms were right there in black and white on the papers you signed. If you didn't read and understand them at the time, whose fault is that?

You're a response was exactly what I was looking for, I appreciate you helping to make sense of a complicated situation that I've not seen anywhere else I have lived in the United States.

That's where you went terribly awry, unless the words that you posted were entirely from the other article and it wasn't you being snarky and telling me "I should have read... et cetera et cetera."

I asked a question so that I could receive clarification. It was my understanding that's what the forum is for.

Please tell me at any point in time where I complained or said I couldn't afford or was not going to pay?

[ouicestmoi]

Dont inderstand why this minimal increases in amenity fees get people so upset. Guess some entitled Villages think when they move here that nothing should increase.

How can one read so much emotion into a simple request for information?

I was not complaining and I am not upset I simply wanted to understand.

[ouicestmoi]

LOL, I think the "entitled" word is so worn out already here. Just about any complaint elicits the "entitled" response these days.

Just because one questions or complains about a fee or whatever going up doesn't mean they should just accept it without question or should HAPPILY accept it just because things get more expensive. Is one "entitled" because they complain the price of gas is up or the cost of eggs is up? Should they just suck it up because "things go up" ?

Don't you think people are "entitled" to post a gripe without being labeled "entitled". :loco: :a20:

Amen lol
It was just a question.

[ouicestmoi]

Nope…they are entitled to not ever paying a penny more…yep, entitled.

Entitled because I asked a question?

[ouicestmoi]

Oh no grasshopper they will increase.

😅😅😅
I feel completely like a grasshopper LOL.

[ouicestmoi]

Ouic'est moi, bonjour, If you're a francophone or interested in the french language, have you looked into the french conversation group? Also french courses are here.

That would be lovely! (Sadly.my parents did not learn from their parents.)

[ouicestmoi]

Leaving this here to close in case someone is able to find the thread with the boolean-lacking search engine.

I don't have any problems paying for things I am responsible for and prefer not to go through life as a lemming, paying additional fees without looking into "why."

LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Amenity fees are adjusted, annually on the anniversary of the original land sale date of the property.

2. This adjustments is based on the fluctuation of the consumer price index in that year.

3. This information is available for your review in your deed restrictions.

4. Some people feel entitled to call others entitled when they don't know them at all.

I appreciate all of these sincere answers and the funnies along the way!

[Cobullymom]

Get use to it, it's when so many on here spring into action. They live for it. It's a forum for so many to take out their daily frustrations on anyone asking a straight question.

[Sandy and Ed]

LOL, I think the "entitled" word is so worn out already here. Just about any complaint elicits the "entitled" response these days.

Just because one questions or complains about a fee or whatever going up doesn't mean they should just accept it without question or should HAPPILY accept it just because things get more expensive. Is one "entitled" because they complain the price of gas is up or the cost of eggs is up? Should they just suck it up because "things go up" ?

Don't you think people are "entitled" to post a gripe without being labeled "entitled". :loco: :a20:
Very well said. I too am tired of that “woke” attitude. Regardless of how “affluent” you may imagine yourself to be, there is no need to comment negatively about another’s concern or observation about increased costs. Me? I try not to discuss the content of another person’s wallet.

[Worldseries27]

entitled because i asked a question?
op, you have entered the totv zone. Ask away, most will give you great answers

[Sandy and Ed]

Leaving this here to close in case someone is able to find the thread with the boolean-lacking search engine.

I don't have any problems paying for things I am responsible for and prefer not to go through life as a lemming, paying additional fees without looking into "why."

LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Amenity fees are adjusted, annually on the anniversary of the original land sale date of the property.

2. This adjustments is based on the fluctuation of the consumer price index in that year.

3. This information is available for your review in your deed restrictions.

4. Some people feel entitled to call others entitled when they don't know them at all.

I appreciate all of these sincere answers and the funnies along the way!
Welcome aboard!! Gotten love this board. Ya gotta sort through and eliminate a lot of the snarky comments but eventually ya get your answer here.

[Philipd411]

Cost go up, period.

[MandoMan]

Hi there! I am new to TV and to the TOTV Forum and I searched but did not find a prior post that answers the question I'm about to ask...

I closed on my home in December last year.

I noticed that amenity fees were going up based on this article excerpt:

"These adjustments from the Consumer Price Index will impact the contractual amenity fee for all homeowners who closed on their houses after Jan. 1, 2023 and all new homes built in The Villages on and after Jan. 1, 2023.

Previously, the amenity fees for these homes was set at a rate of $179. Now, these rates — also known as prevailing rates — will be se to $189, according to a letter released by Robert Chandler IV, The Villages Vice President of Development."

I noticed that mine went up to $189.80 this utility bill.

I called utilities and they sent a voicemail Indicating that they could go up every year in april.

Could anyone point me to clarification on this question? I was not aware they could continue to go up? I thought they were set based on when you bought your house.

If they are reassessed every year then that's something I have to deal with but is there a percentage cap on how much they go up (so that you can budget?)
Thanks!

Is an increase of $10 a month a problem? That’s less than inflation last year. Your Social Security check went up, what, 7.5%?

[ouicestmoi]

Sad for anyone to allow their outlook on life to equate to such negativity.

[ouicestmoi]

Is an increase of $10 a month a problem? That’s less than inflation last year. Your Social Security check went up, what, 7.5%?

Did I at ANY point say it was a problem? Or do you just wake up in need of a "mean" fix?

[Worldseries27]

Anyone who doesn't
count their change after a transaction
please stand up !
Please stand up !
She's protecting herself
like
we
all
do

[Bill14564]

Is an increase of $10 a month a problem? That’s less than inflation last year. Your Social Security check went up, what, 7.5%?

Well..... The amenity fee increases by the CPI which is a common measure of inflation. So the increase was equal to inflation measured in February and applied to April.

I believe the SS increase was 8.7% which is also tied to the CPI but measured in an earlier month.

Both increases are tied to inflation so theoretically we didn't lose any ground. Realistically, not everything follows the CPI, particularly food.

[rickaslin]

Leaving this here to close in case someone is able to find the thread with the boolean-lacking search engine.

I don't have any problems paying for things I am responsible for and prefer not to go through life as a lemming, paying additional fees without looking into "why."

LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Amenity fees are adjusted, annually on the anniversary of the original land sale date of the property.

2. This adjustments is based on the fluctuation of the consumer price index in that year.

3. This information is available for your review in your deed restrictions.

4. Some people feel entitled to call others entitled when they don't know them at all.

I appreciate all of these sincere answers and the funnies along the way!

MY question is "if CPI goes down will ur amenity fees go down ?"

[gobuck827]

You're a response was exactly what I was looking for, I appreciate you helping to make sense of a complicated situation that I've not seen anywhere else I have lived in the United States.

That's where you went terribly awry, unless the words that you posted were entirely from the other article and it wasn't you being snarky and telling me "I should have read... et cetera et cetera."

I asked a question so that I could receive clarification. It was my understanding that's what the forum is for.

Please tell me at any point in time where I complained or said I couldn't afford or was not going to pay?

Everything after the first line in my post was copy and pasted directly from the Don Wiley post. I see I missed the closed quote in my post, I have rectified. I just found his post to be the simplest explanation I had seen on this issue, saved it for my future reference and decided to share with you.

So, I did not go awry, terribly or otherwise.

[RPDaly]

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[wmcgowan]

is $44 / week too much for what you get at the villages? IDK

[ouicestmoi]

Everything after the first line in my post was copy and pasted directly from the Don Wiley post. I see I missed the closed quote in my post, I have rectified. I just found his post to be the simplest explanation I had seen on this issue, saved it for my future reference and decided to share with you.

So, I did not go awry, terribly or otherwise.

I had a feeling that was the case. After all you are a Buckeye, correct?

I am just amazed at the number of people who are quick to shame or blame or call out without necessity people who simply want an answer to a question.

Thank you, again for making it easier to understand. So far? I love the Villages! I can honestly say the politics. The finances the way homes are sold or rented... It is a very unique community and there is a lot to learn.

[OhioBuckeye]

You know the only thing I didn’t like when we lived in TV was when we got so old that we could get out to do anything we still had to pay the amenities. If you don’t do any of the activities isn’t there a way not to pay for for them? Correct me if I’m wrong?

[ouicestmoi]

Strawman - a fallacious argument that distorts an opposing stance in order to make it easier to attack. Essentially, the person using the strawman pretends to attack their opponent’s stance, while in reality they are actually attacking a distorted version of that stance, which their opponent doesn’t necessarily support.

Well said! 🙃😁

[Nana2Teddy]

Leaving this here to close in case someone is able to find the thread with the boolean-lacking search engine.

I don't have any problems paying for things I am responsible for and prefer not to go through life as a lemming, paying additional fees without looking into "why."

LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Amenity fees are adjusted, annually on the anniversary of the original land sale date of the property.

2. This adjustments is based on the fluctuation of the consumer price index in that year.

3. This information is available for your review in your deed restrictions.

4. Some people feel entitled to call others entitled when they don't know them at all.

I appreciate all of these sincere answers and the funnies along the way!
I’ve learned three things during my 1st few months in this forum:

1. You need to have very thick skin.

2. You need a great sense of humor.

3. There are a few grumpy old bears here who don’t like being poked, so proceed with caution. LOL! 😅

Btw, we closed in December on a brand new house. Love it so far!

[Chi-Town]

You know the only thing I didn’t like when we lived in TV was when we got so old that we could get out to do anything we still had to pay the amenities. If you don’t do any of the activities isn’t there a way not to pay for for them? Correct me if I’m wrong?

Try getting real estate rax relief by stating you have no school kids living at home anymore.

[Dusty_Star]

Try getting real estate rax relief by stating you have no school kids living at home anymore.

They love taxpayers with no children using the school system. Love! They love all that money coming in.

[Bogie Shooter]

You know the only thing I didn’t like when we lived in TV was when we got so old that we could get out to do anything we still had to pay the amenities. If you don’t do any of the activities isn’t there a way not to pay for for them? Correct me if I’m wrong?

Having lived here you should know that answer…..nothing has changed.
Or just stirring the pot?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You know the only thing I didn’t like when we lived in TV was when we got so old that we could get out to do anything we still had to pay the amenities. If you don’t do any of the activities isn’t there a way not to pay for for them? Correct me if I’m wrong? I’ve been here off in on for over 20 years , I’ve owned and lived in 6 different homes , 5 new and one preowned , I don’t golf , never use the pools , don’t use the recreational centers or belong to an club and go to gym in Leesburg . I live here because everything looks nice here with a lot of businesses and restaurants and I never lock my doors . I gladly pay for the amenities because they keep the property values high and I’m 84 and I may not use the amenities but I could if I wanted to FYI yes you are wrong

[ouicestmoi]

I believe the SS increase was 8.7% which is also tied to the CPI but measured in an earlier month.

Makes sense... although I would be surprised if the rate ever goes DOWN with the CPI? :shocked:

[Goldwingnut]

MY question is "if CPI goes down will ur amenity fees go down ?"

Yes it will and it has once so far. Don’t hold your breath for it to happen again any time soon.

[Bill14564]

Makes sense... although I would be surprised if the rate ever goes DOWN with the CPI? :shocked:

It looks like the CPI has not gone down since 2009. Maybe someone who was here at that time can say how the amenity fee was adjusted.

[kkingston57]

Or, they may have not understood, or they may not have been told anything and did not KNOW the right questions to ask, and most of all, they may, like so many retired folks, be on a fixed income that does not increase by substantial amount each year. People, like relatives of ours, who had to move recently, actually are intelligent, and they do their "homework", but no one PLANS on "things going up" by 50%, hamburger that was $3.29 not that long ago is $6.99, gasoline they tell us, is heading to $5.00 since we cut back our drilling and then insulted the wrong person (!) in the Mideast. People are hurting, that's why they get so upset, no one goes out of their way to explain these things and so many try to ask the "right" questions but just don't know exactly what to ask ! Yes, people are hurting, and in a retirement community like ours, a lot of people are hurting. It may not even be today's amenity bill, it's what next year will bring. Hope that helps you understand just a bit. You may have more money, or you may have more investments bringing in larger amounts of money each year than some other people, so you don't worry as much as some others might. Hope that helps to clarify a bit.

Clear as mud.

[OhioBuckeye]

Chi: Town, I see your response but what does our taxes & kids have anything to do with annuities? Guess you lost me!

[jcreason5616]

Leaving this here to close in case someone is able to find the thread with the boolean-lacking search engine.

I don't have any problems paying for things I am responsible for and prefer not to go through life as a lemming, paying additional fees without looking into "why."

LESSONS LEARNED:

1. Amenity fees are adjusted, annually on the anniversary of the original land sale date of the property.

2. This adjustments is based on the fluctuation of the consumer price index in that year.

3. This information is available for your review in your deed restrictions.

4. Some people feel entitled to call others entitled when they don't know them at all.

I appreciate all of these sincere answers and the funnies along the way!

I don’t know you, but you are a class act! Well played! :)

[Aces4]

Clear as mud.

Perhaps someone with reading comprehension could explain it for you.:1rotfl:

[Laker14]

You know the only thing I didn’t like when we lived in TV was when we got so old that we could get out to do anything we still had to pay the amenities. If you don’t do any of the activities isn’t there a way not to pay for for them? Correct me if I’m wrong?

No. When you can't or choose not to use the amenities, and you wish to not pay for them anymore, the appropriate thing is to move to another place.

TV is built around amenities, and the use thereof.

[Laker14]

Try getting real estate rax relief by stating you have no school kids living at home anymore.

They love taxpayers with no children using the school system. Love! They love all that money coming in.

Chi: Town, I see your response but what does our taxes & kids have anything to do with annuities? Guess you lost me!

People who think they shouldn't pay school taxes because they don't have kids in school don't pause to consider the difference between a tax and tuition. You pay tuition to send your children to school, you pay taxes in order to live in a community that has legislated that certain payments will be made to the government to fund services the government has legislated as useful or beneficial to the community.
A pacifist in the USA who feels too much money is being spent on the military still pays whatever the government deems they must pay.
Someone who thinks too much money is being spent on social services for other segments of the population (eg. food stamps, Medicaid, hot lunches for kids) still has to pay those taxes.

Likewise with a school tax.

[jimjamuser]

I’ve been here off in on for over 20 years , I’ve owned and lived in 6 different homes , 5 new and one preowned , I don’t golf , never use the pools , don’t use the recreational centers or belong to an club and go to gym in Leesburg . I live here because everything looks nice here with a lot of businesses and restaurants and I never lock my doors . I gladly pay for the amenities because they keep the property values high and I’m 84 and I may not use the amenities but I could if I wanted to FYI yes you are wrong
I agree with MOST of what you said. But, PLEASE, PLEASE, lock your doors. There are thieves and dangerous people around TV Land. Not many, but some, so why take a chance?

[RCMill531@comcast.net]

Good comment!

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I agree with MOST of what you said. But, PLEASE, PLEASE, lock your doors. There are thieves and dangerous people around TV Land. Not many, but some, so why take a chance?because I spent almost 40 years of my life in dangerous places around the world and I like the idea of an unlocked door , sort of like Gibbs on NCIS who never locks his door lol , last house I sold I had to make keys for the buyer and I was away half the time,.I do lock condo doors when I’m away ,also I’ve read some of your posts I’m baffled at your description of this place but you know everyone is different , at 84 I’m still hitting bars in Thailand by myself , I’m like the guy from the old mad magazine What Me Worry , (never)

[ouicestmoi]

I don’t know you, but you are a class act! Well played! :)

Thank you, that's so kind!

I moved here to make friends not to irritate or engage with people who seek negativity in their lives.

[ouicestmoi]

Is an increase of $10 a month a problem? That’s less than inflation last year. Your Social Security check went up, what, 7.5%?

I don't receive social security, however, I am a disabled vet, so your point is made... yet it has nothing to do with my question.

[Lisa22]

Nope…they are entitled to not ever paying a penny more…yep, entitled.

What you call entitled, I call prudent. Anytime a cost or fee goes up (or down), I would want to know and understand why, how much and for how long? Perhaps it was in the fine print when purchasing the home? So what? We all miss things - in fact, that is what this TOTV was created for. For all of us to exchange information and ideas.

[UsuallyLurking]

It looks like the CPI has not gone down since 2009. Maybe someone who was here at that time can say how the amenity fee was adjusted.

If the CPI goes down your amenity fee goes down. For example, if your current monthly payment is $180.00 per month and the CPI goes down by 1%, you new monthly payment for the following 12 months will be $178.20. (One resident says that in the 20 years he's lived here his amenity fee went down (only a little) in three of those years.)