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Boffin
04-05-2023, 10:54 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
MrFlorida
04-05-2023, 11:37 AM
Good idea.
vintageogauge
04-05-2023, 11:44 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
Only a fool would drive a golf cart without insurance if you cause an accident and have any wealth at all Dan Newlin will be making a call.
Bill14564
04-05-2023, 12:29 PM
I don't see anything in the bill requiring those with learner's permits to have someone 21 or over riding with them.
I feel it is at best unnecessary and at worst another step down an undesirable path.
If the requirement for a learner's permit is needed to ensure those on the streets understand basic rules of the road then shouldn't we require learner's permits for bicyclists as well? Perhaps even more so since mistakes are more deadly on a bicycle than on a golf cart?
The more we treat golf carts like cars, the easier it will be to eliminate any differences. Do we really want to require insurance for golf carts? Do we really want to require safety glass, seatbelts, self-canceling turn signals, and airbags on golf carts? Do we really want to require Florida vehicle registration for golf carts?
Then again, this law is no surprise in the "free state" of Florida.
JMintzer
04-05-2023, 02:05 PM
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
On what highways are 14 yos driving golf carts?
JoMar
04-05-2023, 02:52 PM
I don't see anything in the bill requiring those with learner's permits to have someone 21 or over riding with them.
I feel it is at best unnecessary and at worst another step down an undesirable path.
If the requirement for a learner's permit is needed to ensure those on the streets understand basic rules of the road then shouldn't we require learner's permits for bicyclists as well? Perhaps even more so since mistakes are more deadly on a bicycle than on a golf cart?
The more we treat golf carts like cars, the easier it will be to eliminate any differences. Do we really want to require insurance for golf carts? Do we really want to require safety glass, seatbelts, self-canceling turn signals, and airbags on golf carts? Do we really want to require Florida vehicle registration for golf carts?
Then again, this law is no surprise in the "free state" of Florida.
The short answer is yes. It really doesn't matter here since the police enforce very few vehicle laws of any kind except DUI's
tophcfa
04-05-2023, 05:46 PM
So here is a relevant question, if the minimum age will require a learners permit with an adult present or a drivers license, what about the old folks driving golf carts who are no longer able to qualify for a drivers license because of deteriorated physical or mental ability?
tophcfa
04-05-2023, 05:51 PM
The short answer is yes. It really doesn't matter here since the police enforce very few vehicle laws of any kind except DUI's
I wish law enforcement would treat driving while using a cell phone as strictly and seriously as DUI’s, it’s more common and arguably just as dangerous if not worse.
coralway
04-05-2023, 06:27 PM
For free people living in a free state, you folks sure do want a lot of laws
kidnerkim
04-06-2023, 04:28 AM
There was a golf cart flipped over in tunnel yesterday south of 44 Brownwood Bridge. Appeared to be a young girl driving & miracle! No injuries. Golf cart driving should be same age as vehicle. Also adults should no better than to drive golf carts with children in their laps, too many people to number of seats & not wearing seat belts. Rant over.
ithos
04-06-2023, 04:31 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
Maybe in other retirement communities, but in TV they are allowed to go up to 30 mph even without tags and registration. I know its not legal but without enforcement it doesn't matter.
westernrider75
04-06-2023, 04:40 AM
Maybe in other retirement communities, but in TV they are allowed to go up to 30 mph even without tags and registration. I know its not legal but without enforcement it doesn't matter.
Where did you see 30 mph is legal on golf carts?
Andyhope
04-06-2023, 04:53 AM
Amen
banjobob
04-06-2023, 05:22 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
Another unenforceable law cluttering up the books
GizmoWhiskers
04-06-2023, 05:59 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
The planned 250 or so under 55 households in T V Village of Middleton with teens enrolling in the High School will be crushed to hear this change in Golf Cart rules if it is enacted.
How will the teens of The Villages live the dream... driving golf carts without mom and dad to Brownwood to eat a burger at 5 Guys, catch a fun movie at the Brownwood movie theater (oh wait... that theater is just a prop), grab an after movie Ice Cream cone at Scooples and dance in the town square like all of us old people?
Someone always wants to kill the fun these days.
JGibson
04-06-2023, 06:21 AM
I don't understand how these so-called street legal carts can travel on Buena Vista, 441, 466.
What makes them street-legal? Insurance? Registration? Are they equipped with some special equipment?
I also see these so-called street-legal carts on MMP and golf courses.
What’s the catch how do I get this luxury?
tuccillo
04-06-2023, 06:25 AM
No, not on 441 and 466. Street legal golf carts are allowed on roads with a speed limit upto 35 mph.
I don't understand how these so-called street legal carts can travel on Buena Vista, 441, 466.
What makes them street-legal? Insurance? Registration? Are they equipped with some special equipment?
I also see these so-called street-legal carts on MMP and golf courses.
What’s the catch how do I get this luxury?
Freehiker
04-06-2023, 06:34 AM
There was a young girl no older than 10-11 years old, with an even younger boy, driving a cart down Marsh Bend yesterday. No adults with them.
Bill14564
04-06-2023, 07:07 AM
There was a young girl no older than 10-11 years old, with an even younger boy, driving a cart down Marsh Bend yesterday. No adults with them.
Are you that confident in your ability to judge age?
Bill14564
04-06-2023, 07:14 AM
I don't understand how these so-called street legal carts can travel on Buena Vista, 441, 466.
What makes them street-legal? Insurance? Registration? Are they equipped with some special equipment?
I also see these so-called street-legal carts on MMP and golf courses.
What’s the catch how do I get this luxury?
Your best bet is to google "florida golf cart laws."
There is a difference between what they "can" do and what they are "allowed" to do.
- They CAN travel on any roadway - it is physically possible.
- They are ALLOWED to travel on most roadways where the speed limit is 35mph or less.
If you saw a golf cart traveling on 441 or 466 then it was very likely breaking the law and should have been stopped and ticketed. My guess is you haven't seen that.
What makes you believe the golf carts you saw were street legal? Given that you don't know what makes a cart street legal I doubt you could recognize the difference. In any case, street legal golf carts are allowed on MMPs and golf courses.
How do you get this luxury? Google can help with that too.
bark4me
04-06-2023, 07:23 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
I agree 100%. Yesterday on my street, 2 golf carts passed me. One with a driver between the age of 9 and 11 operating the cart with mom or grandma in the passenger seat trying to help the child and the other behind it with about a 6 year old sitting in dads lap. They were headed to the main roadway. There is no way that those children could take immediate accident avoidance techniques to avoid a crash let alone cause one.
bark4me
04-06-2023, 07:25 AM
On what highways are 14 yos driving golf carts?
Roadways are also called highways
mermaids
04-06-2023, 07:26 AM
There are responsible 14 yr olds and irresponsible adults. Common sense is like deodorant, those that need it most won't use it...
jarodrig
04-06-2023, 07:31 AM
A “street legal” golf cart is restricted to no more than 25 MPH on roads with a posted speed limit of no more than 35 MPH …..
hoot2602
04-06-2023, 07:32 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
Anyone who has operated a golf cart in TV for a few months has had an opportunity to see youngsters driving carts. I've seen very young (probably less than 14 yo) driving carts with other very young people as passengers and no adult present. I totally agree that this law would result in better safety and reduce accidents in golf cart communities. Our home course in Illinois has recently increased its requirements for youngster to have a valid drivers license before they can operate carts. I totally agree with this!
Nucky
04-06-2023, 07:35 AM
Our 12 year old grandson is going to be upset with me. He is coming for a week and expects to be able to drive the 4 passenger facing front golf cart that I’ve rented. It ain’t gonna happen.
When he is at home with his Dad he drives a Quad, Small Backhoe, Various Cars, a 125CC Motorcycle. The kid has skills. He’s going to have to perfect his swagger with his Dad. Not on my watch. I don’t care if he’s mad at me. If he isn’t mad about not driving it would just be something else. I’m setting him home in one piece.
MX rider
04-06-2023, 07:45 AM
Our 12 year old grandson is going to be upset with me. He is coming for a week and expects to be able to drive the 4 passenger facing front golf cart that I’ve rented. It ain’t gonna happen.
When he is at home with his Dad he drives a Quad, Small Backhoe, Various Cars, a 125CC Motorcycle. The kid has skills. He’s going to have to perfect his swagger with his Dad. Not on my watch. I don’t care if he’s mad at me. If he isn’t mad about not driving it would just be something else. I’m setting him home in one piece.
Wow, thats refreshing. A responsible Grandparent telling the grandkid no. When it comes to this subject more should do the same.
Rcsgsmith
04-06-2023, 07:56 AM
We do expect a level of training while operating a vehicle on public roadways. If one does not have a license to drive, regardless of age, shouldn’t the law consider those that have had their license taken away either by family or BMV?
MrFlorida
04-06-2023, 08:22 AM
For free people living in a free state, you folks sure do want a lot of laws
You ever see a 10 year old drive a golf cart up on somebody's lawn ?
I have.....it's not funny...
Bill14564
04-06-2023, 08:45 AM
You ever see a 10 year old drive a golf cart up on somebody's lawn ?
I have.....it's not funny...
That was already illegal without this additional law.
Put another way: Raising the age from 14 to 16 will do nothing to keep a 10 year old from driving a golf cart up on somebody's lawn.
DAVES
04-06-2023, 09:06 AM
The golf cart driving age in Florida is currently 14 years old. That may soon change.
By Ana Goñi-Lessan
Some Florida teens may no longer be able to drive a golf cart around their neighborhoods.
A bill that would raise the age and add requirements to operate a golf cart passed through the Senate Committee on Transportation on Tuesday. SB 1290, sponsored by Sen. Erin Grall- R, Ft. Pierce, prohibits a person from driving a golf cart on public roadways unless they are 15 with a learner's permit or 16 with a license.
Those with learner's permits must have someone 21 and older in the passenger seat of the golf cart.
"There's a level of training that we expect when people operate a vehicle on our public roadways," Grall said.
Currently, Florida law allows a 14-year-old to drive a golf cart, which Grall said makes it difficult for local governments to enact their own laws that would raise the age.
Golf carts do not require insurance and do not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Law enforcement agencies across the state supported the bill, citing the the increase of golf cart communities in the state.
"It's a fabulous idea, it's a great thing. But the problem is we don't need 14-year-olds operating a golf cart on a highway," said St. John's County Sheriff's Office Director of Patrol Scott Beaver.
We regularly try to legislate perfection. Only trouble is perfection does not exist. Why 15 and not 18?
How many seniors should not be driving? Endless other posts note it says 20 MPH.
DAVES
04-06-2023, 09:17 AM
I don't understand how these so-called street legal carts can travel on Buena Vista, 441, 466.
What makes them street-legal? Insurance? Registration? Are they equipped with some special equipment?
I also see these so-called street-legal carts on MMP and golf courses.
What’s the catch how do I get this luxury?
As previously posted we try to legislate perfection. Perfection does not exist.
In terms of the law, all should look it up. Ignorance of the law is not a defense.
Nor is someone with a pseudo-name on Talk of the Villages said that...........
All may want to check. Used to be the police were at the Savanna Center once a month and you could ask any such questions. Time, dates-I would check if interested.
Donegalkid
04-06-2023, 10:24 AM
Only a fool would drive a golf cart without insurance if you cause an accident and have any wealth at all Dan Newlin will be making a call.
Yes. And following an accident, one of the first things checked is whether or not the golf cart speed regulator has been altered. Interesting data for the personal injury attorneys and the insurance companies.
Johnsocat
04-06-2023, 12:30 PM
Agree, some folks here have lost ability to drive cars, leaving them with golf carts to keep their independence.
Anytime the govt gets involved, we seem to lose something.
I don't see anything in the bill requiring those with learner's permits to have someone 21 or over riding with them.
I feel it is at best unnecessary and at worst another step down an undesirable path.
If the requirement for a learner's permit is needed to ensure those on the streets understand basic rules of the road then shouldn't we require learner's permits for bicyclists as well? Perhaps even more so since mistakes are more deadly on a bicycle than on a golf cart?
The more we treat golf carts like cars, the easier it will be to eliminate any differences. Do we really want to require insurance for golf carts? Do we really want to require safety glass, seatbelts, self-canceling turn signals, and airbags on golf carts? Do we really want to require Florida vehicle registration for golf carts?
Then again, this law is no surprise in the "free state" of Florida.
Byte1
04-06-2023, 12:40 PM
You ever see a 10 year old drive a golf cart up on somebody's lawn ?
I have.....it's not funny...
Haven't seen a "10yo" drive on somebody's lawn but I have seen a neighbor driving a golf cart on my lawn because he didn't want to move his car over in his driveway and didn't want to drive over his own lawn. :mad:
Bill14564
04-06-2023, 12:46 PM
Yes. And following an accident, one of the first things checked is whether or not the golf cart speed regulator has been altered. Interesting data for the personal injury attorneys and the insurance companies.
Hmmm.... Do the police carry the necessary tools to access the speed regulator? Do they have the expertise to perform this check? If not, are you saying that golf carts are confiscated after accidents and taken away for this check?
Veiragirl
04-06-2023, 01:09 PM
Only a fool would drive a golf cart without insurance if you cause an accident and have any wealth at all Dan Newlin will be making a call.
Yeah! Dan would be'HONORED' to represent you!
bluecenturian
04-06-2023, 01:21 PM
It’s terminology. There is no such thing as a roadway. A local street is termed a “highway” and what we call highways are “limited access highways”
Freehiker
04-06-2023, 02:18 PM
Are you that confident in your ability to judge age?
Yes.
RCMill531@comcast.net
04-06-2023, 03:37 PM
Short portions on Morse Blvd and in neighborhoods. Most golf cart accidents I hear about are senior adults who have drank too much alcohol.
JMintzer
04-06-2023, 04:29 PM
Roadways are also called highways
Yeah... No...
My neighborhood street has never been called a "highway"...
JMintzer
04-06-2023, 04:33 PM
You ever see a 10 year old drive a golf cart up on somebody's lawn ?
I have.....it's not funny...
Is it funny when an 80 yo does it?
JMintzer
04-06-2023, 04:38 PM
It’s terminology. There is no such thing as a roadway. A local street is termed a “highway” and what we call highways are “limited access highways”
I've literally NEVER seen that in common use...
Again, from the Google Machine:
"What is the full meaning of highway?
A main road
A highway is a main road, especially one that connects towns or cities."
JGibson
04-06-2023, 08:16 PM
So instead of telling people go to Google I brought Google to you.
Golf Cart Definitions & Requirements
A golf cart is defined as a motor vehicle that is designed for operation on a golf course or for sporting or recreation and is not capable of exceeding 20 mph. While the operator of a golf cart does not have to be a licensed driver, the driver must be over 14 years or age. Many Villagers ask if they can modify their golf carts to exceed 20 mph and the answer is they cannot legally and there have been tickets issued to those who have been caught exceeding 20 mph.
LSV Definitions & Requirements
An LSV is defined as a four-wheel electric vehicle whose top speed is greater than 20 mph, but less than 25 mph. LSV may operate on the streets where the posted speed limit is 35 mph or less. LSV can also cross roads that have a speed limit greater than 35 mph. The operator of an LSV must be a licensed driver. LSV must have a registered license plate and be insured. The LSV must be equipped with at least the following safety equipment: Seat belts, a windshield, rear view mirror, horn, headlights, tail lights, stop lamps, side reflectors, a parking brake, turn signals and a VIN number.
I can’t find anywhere that says you can use an LSV on the MMP or even the golf course. I think it's a loophole that is being ignored.
MMP is for golf carts that don't exceed 20 mph yet LSV can go up to 25 MPH. So technically the LSV should be prohibited from MMP.
They should be banned from golf courses also as they’re not golf carts they’re low-speed vehicles.
We don't need actual vehicles on the golf course.
I will tell you I almost took the door off one of these Atomic looking carts on the golf course once. I was passing it as he stopped on the golf course trail and without looking he swung the door open and I came very close to ripping off his door.
There shouldn’t be carts with actual doors on the golf course, go get a regular golf cart.
Some of these LSVs are getting bigger and wider yet they want to travel on the MMP. It's hard enough with normal golf carts, bicycles, and walkers on the MMP.
Bill14564
04-06-2023, 08:48 PM
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I can’t find anywhere that says you can use an LSV on the MMP or even the golf course. I think it's a loophole that is being ignored.
MMP is for golf carts that don't exceed 20 mph yet LSV can go up to 25 MPH. So technically the LSV should be prohibited from MMP.
They should be banned from golf courses also as they’re not golf carts they’re low-speed vehicles.
We don't need actual vehicles on the golf course.
I will tell you I almost took the door off one of these Atomic looking carts on the golf course once. I was passing it as he stopped on the golf course trail and without looking he swung the door open and I came very close to ripping off his door.
There shouldn’t be carts with actual doors on the golf course, go get a regular golf cart.
Some of these LSVs are getting bigger and wider yet they want to travel on the MMP. It's hard enough with normal golf carts, bicycles, and walkers on the MMP.
See this memo (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)for a legal opinion of LSVs, MMPs, and golf courses. Bottom line: LSVs are allowed on both.
Not a golfer but do golf carts normally pass one another on the golf cart paths? My impression has always been that one group follows another which would mean no passing. *IF* that is the case, then was the the problem with the door or was the problem with the one performing the pass?
ithos
04-07-2023, 05:48 AM
Where did you see 30 mph is legal on golf carts?
Did you see the other part where I said it is not legal?
Violators are rarely if ever given a citation so it is a toothless law.
DonH57
04-07-2023, 06:15 AM
Hmmm.... Do the police carry the necessary tools to access the speed regulator? Do they have the expertise to perform this check? If not, are you saying that golf carts are confiscated after accidents and taken away for this check?
I believe the State Police have their own accident investigation department. Something I don't want to find out.
ithos
04-07-2023, 06:23 AM
Hmmm.... Do the police carry the necessary tools to access the speed regulator? Do they have the expertise to perform this check? If not, are you saying that golf carts are confiscated after accidents and taken away for this check?
If there is a serious injury and results in a lawsuit and/or criminal charges, then there is a probability that it will be inspected. Why take the chance?
Bill14564
04-07-2023, 06:38 AM
If there is a serious injury and results in a lawsuit and/or criminal charges, then there is a probability that it will be inspected. Why take the chance?
I agree about not taking the chance - I haven't and wouldn't.
I disagree with the blanket statement that following an accident, one of the first things checked is the speed regulator. I imagine in some circumstances carts are seized for further inspection but I doubt that happens with every accident.
JGibson
04-07-2023, 07:07 AM
See this memo (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)for a legal opinion of LSVs, MMPs, and golf courses. Bottom line: LSVs are allowed on both.
Not a golfer but do golf carts normally pass one another on the golf cart paths? My impression has always been that one group follows another which would mean no passing. *IF* that is the case, then was the the problem with the door or was the problem with the one performing the pass?
This is for districts 1-4 and was over 13 years ago.
Hopefully with the new proposed changes they ban actual vehicles from MMP.
Bill14564
04-07-2023, 07:38 AM
This is for districts 1-4 and was over 13 years ago.
Hopefully with the new proposed changes they ban actual vehicles from MMP.
Actual vehicles are not allowed on the MMPs today. LSVs are equivalent to golf carts and therefore are allowed.
JGibson
04-08-2023, 07:44 AM
Actual vehicles are not allowed on the MMPs today. LSVs are equivalent to golf carts and therefore are allowed.
They're not equivalent to golf carts as they have the ability to go faster than 20 mph legally.
Have you seen some of these newer alleged LSV they surely look like vehicles to me.
There is no limit on what size they can be, that is an issue is on MMP and golf courses.
People keep pushing how big of a LSV they can get and it's just a matter of time before they pass some common sense rules for these vehicles.
Bill14564
04-08-2023, 08:03 AM
They're not equivalent to golf carts as they have the ability to go faster than 20 mph legally.
Have you seen some of these newer alleged LSV they surely look like vehicles to me.
There is no limit on what size they can be, that is an issue is on MMP and golf courses.
People keep pushing how big of a LSV they can get and it's just a matter of time before they pass some common sense rules for these vehicles.
Many of the golf carts on the MMPs and golf courses today can go more than 20mph. Speed is not the issue.
I have seen some golf carts that look like little trucks, race cars, corvettes, and fire engines but they are all still golf carts and allowed on the MMPs. Looks are not the issue.
I haven't studied it at all but I suspect that since LSVs are intended to utilize golf cart paths they are no larger than golf carts. Size is not an issue.
If someone doesn't like an LSV because their cart is not as fast or their cart is not as pretty or their cart does not seem to be as big then they don't like the LSV because they are jealous. Jealousy is a very poor reason for rule making.
Ruth Ann
04-09-2023, 03:36 PM
Age 14 is a good age for golf cart drivers. Anyone younger is NO NO
GatorFan
04-09-2023, 10:37 PM
Totally uninsured too. They can buy all the golf cart insurance and pay the premium. Not worth the paper it is written on because they committed fraud when they signed the application that all the information they gave is correct. ( 20 miles or less )The worst part is golf carts that are part of rental properties. Is it covered? Better get in writing from your agent because MOST do not cover rental carts. Have them sign a waiver is not worth the piece of paper. No one can override the law.
MorTech
04-10-2023, 04:33 AM
...Maybe we need to stop treating young adults like agency-less children. 14 is just fine.
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