Florida’s brutal drought worsens

[Boffin]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

[Bilyclub]

I haven't noticed...

[vintageogauge]

It's on the way

[Nana2Teddy]

We got a nice soaking a couple days ago, with more supposedly on the way in the next week.

[manaboutown]

California seems to be coming out of its drought. Weather!

California ties 1952 record for all-time Sierra snowpack (https://www.ktvu.com/news/california-ties-1952-record-for-all-time-sierra-snowpack)

[RPDaly]

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[JP]

Gee...weather changes, I'm shocked.

[RICH1]

the earths magnetic north has shifted 30 miles…causing a delirium of problems.

[sounding]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.
2. Florida's dry season ends in May. Be patient.
3. Golf courses and lawns are NOT part of natural Florida.

[Velvet]

I just let the grass grow a little longer, give an extra day’s watering to the bushes - problem seems solved.

[blueash]

1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.


Tell me which one of these groups is the alarmist one, or all of them in your humble opinion

The U.S. Drought Monitor is produced through a partnership between the National Drought Mitigation Center at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, the United States Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

There is nothing subjective about their work except the dividing lines which they have derived between categories of severity of drought. And while where to draw a line is subjective, they are totally consistent in their definitions and their data is derived from objective readings confirmed with on site reports.

I see nowhere on their site that they use "unnamed experts" in fact the authors are listed and the sources are listed. And if you find the maps "scary" maybe the drought conditions in those dry areas are "scary" Perhaps you will tell us that the low rainfall in Florida has not produced drought conditions, that there is no increased fire risk and this is all a cabal of "scientists" just looking for fame and fortune at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

[blueash]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

.......,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

While I think your post is interesting, it is a cut and paste of
Florida’s brutal drought worsens; Orlando has hottest start to year on record (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/florida-brutal-drought-worsens-orlando-161100506.html) from the Orlando Sentinel

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[sounding]

Tell me which one of these groups is the alarmist one, or all of them in your humble opinion

The U.S. Drought Monitor is produced through a partnership between the National Drought Mitigation Center at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, the United States Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

There is nothing subjective about their work except the dividing lines which they have derived between categories of severity of drought. And while where to draw a line is subjective, they are totally consistent in their definitions and their data is derived from objective readings confirmed with on site reports.

I see nowhere on their site that they use "unnamed experts" in fact the authors are listed and the sources are listed. And if you find the maps "scary" maybe the drought conditions in those dry areas are "scary" Perhaps you will tell us that the low rainfall in Florida has not produced drought conditions, that there is no increased fire risk and this is all a cabal of "scientists" just looking for fame and fortune at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

The scam is easy to find. Just look under the "Drought intensity categories are based on:" section, on this link ... Drought Classification | U.S. Drought Monitor (https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/About/AbouttheData/DroughtClassification.aspx)

[GizmoWhiskers]

"I bless the rains down in... (Toto)" Florida. Bought time we see some :)

[Boffin]

While I think your post is interesting, it is a cut and paste of
Florida’s brutal drought worsens; Orlando has hottest start to year on record (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/florida-brutal-drought-worsens-orlando-161100506.html) from the Orlando Sentinel

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[Normal]

It’s a great time to check all your sprinkler filter heads, go through your system and monitor efficiency. I’m very grateful for a little highlight of dry weather to serve us all better.

[ithos]

This was the grandaddy of all droughts. CO2 around 300 ppm.

WHAT IS DROUGHT
Historical Drought
The 1930s “Dust Bowl” drought remains the most significant drought—meteorological and agricultural—in the United States’ historical record.

Historical Drought | Drought.gov (https://www.drought.gov/what-is-drought/historical-drought#:~:text=The%20three%20longest%20drought%20 episodes,in%20the%20U.S.%20historical%20record).

[sounding]

Florida's "dry season" runs through May -- this is completely normal. There's nothing unusual about our current conditions -- except for lots of unnatural golf courses and manicured lawns.

[Beyond The Wall]

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating , ( Global Warming) 🤡 stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late October

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.
This is called weather!


The Gulf is bubbling right now! Expect numerous storms shortly.
Global heating is recycled Global warming. Hurricanes and drought have been around for a long time.

Average rain and snow is just that , an average of different extremes. Yes it has been dry, yes it does cause stress on everything mentioned.

Do what you can to protect your property investment.

[Regorp]

Murphy’s Law. We left California last November for greener pastures (among other reasons), and lo and behold we ended up in a more severe drought than we left. Sigh.
I guess we won’t waste money having gutters installed.

Arrived in August and would pour every day, so gutters were first priority. Call Stipes to install by end of May or beware of flooded lanai.

[Dusty_Star]

1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.
2. Florida's dry season ends in May. Be patient.
3. Golf courses and lawns are NOT part of natural Florida.

Thank you!

[Mazjaz]

Over the 65 years of my life living in different parts of the country, been thru excessive droughts, excessive rain periods, excessive snows, little snow. The climate changes yearly, daily, and often. Always has always will. Not concerned one bit when you look at the history of the earth’s climate over thousands of years.

[waterflower]

If people only realize that water is only a few feet under their feet.. Learn how to be sovereign.

[blueash]

FYI: Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright.

Really not my point at all. Copyright law allows exactly what you stated. In such a case you should cite the source of what you are using, not present it as your own work. Secondly, this website, TOTV, has its own rule about using copyrighted material which is stricter than the prohibition on general use. There is no question the material you presented as your own was copyrighted. There is no question that you did not excerpt a small part of the work, rather you presented the entire body of someone else's work as your own without any attribution or credit to the real author.
And there is no question that you did not conform to the rules of this website regarding use of copyrighted material even if you may not have violated the Federal laws, which by the way, also say that fair use does not generally mean using the entire article.

From your link:
" If the use includes a large portion of the copyrighted work, fair use is less likely to be found;"

[blueash]

If people only realize that water is only a few feet under their feet.. Learn how to be sovereign.

Please tell me what sovereign action we should be considering regarding water use in Florida as individuals. You might have a great solution for each of us to pursue.

[Escape Artist]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

Your concerns will allayed starting this week which will usher in the rainy season early.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

FYI: Section 107 of the Copyright Act, which provides that fair use of a work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, or research)” is not an infringement of copyright.

Yes you can use the entire work. But you still have to cite the source. If it's a paper thing and not an internet link, you have to specify the name of the book/newspaper/magazine, edition, date of copyright.

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[jimjamuser]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”
Plus grass requires cutting and causes thousands of "have not" fast-driving lawn terrorists to invade the "haves" areas and produce class friction - all because overweight Village People are too lazy to cut their own lawns or buy a patio home. It is simple to plant podocarpus and viburnum hedges and use rock gardens and ground cover to reduce the plain, ugly grass to a bare minimum. Thus saving water and preventing the fertilizer runoff that is polluting the lakes of the Villages. This is NOT rocket science, folks - it is basic horticulture. Take a class or read a book and show some individuality. Just because the average, dim-witted Village person is dumb enough to pay for out-of-area MUSCLE to cut their lawns, does NOT mean that YOU have to fall into that TRAP!

[jimjamuser]

Murphy’s Law. We left California last November for greener pastures (among other reasons), and lo and behold we ended up in a more severe drought than we left. Sigh.
I guess we won’t waste money having gutters installed.
Cor D'alaine Idaho would have been a better choice for the summer 6 months.

[jimjamuser]

Gee...weather changes, I'm shocked.
It is going to CHANGE by having increasing HEAT planet-wide for the next 30 years. I guess some would call that a change???????

[jimjamuser]

1. The "US Drought Monitor" is a climate alarmist outlet. Read how it operates. It uses "subjective methods" and "unnamed experts" to create scary maps.
2. Florida's dry season ends in May. Be patient.
3. Golf courses and lawns are NOT part of natural Florida.
# 3 IS true !

[jimjamuser]

I just let the grass grow a little longer, give an extra day’s watering to the bushes - problem seems solved.
Not by a long Global Warming shot!

[sounding]

A warmer planet is a better planet. Maybe, if it gets warm enough, the Vikings will return to Greenland -- which will be more green -- and that's a good thing.

[jimjamuser]

Tell me which one of these groups is the alarmist one, or all of them in your humble opinion

The U.S. Drought Monitor is produced through a partnership between the National Drought Mitigation Center at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, the United States Department of Agriculture, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

There is nothing subjective about their work except the dividing lines which they have derived between categories of severity of drought. And while where to draw a line is subjective, they are totally consistent in their definitions and their data is derived from objective readings confirmed with on site reports.

I see nowhere on their site that they use "unnamed experts" in fact the authors are listed and the sources are listed. And if you find the maps "scary" maybe the drought conditions in those dry areas are "scary" Perhaps you will tell us that the low rainfall in Florida has not produced drought conditions, that there is no increased fire risk and this is all a cabal of "scientists" just looking for fame and fortune at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
Never trust those Cabal Scientists. Real men disembowel Scientists.

[sounding]

Agree -- that's a short shot. The long shot would be to stop cutting grass altogether -- and return Florida to nature. Florida did just fine for millions of years without sprinkler systems -- or golf courses.

[jimjamuser]

Florida's "dry season" runs through May -- this is completely normal. There's nothing unusual about our current conditions -- except for lots of unnatural golf courses and manicured lawns.
I agree - turn those golf courses into something useful. Even 200 Pickle's ball courts would be preferable. Or maybe a few field archery courses with natural vegetation of course. Think of all the quail and fish that are killed by the UNNATURAL chemicals used to force a golf course to function.....to the detriment of nature.
As an extra special positive result - imagine if an invading foreign army entered the US - would it be better to REPELL them with TRAINED ARCHERS or with TRAINED GOLFERS pelting them with golf balls? Just asking?

[jimjamuser]

Over the 65 years of my life living in different parts of the country, been thru excessive droughts, excessive rain periods, excessive snows, little snow. The climate changes yearly, daily, and often. Always has always will. Not concerned one bit when you look at the history of the earth’s climate over thousands of years.
Some fantasies are indeed comforting.

[jimjamuser]

Please tell me what sovereign action we should be considering regarding water use in Florida as individuals. You might have a great solution for each of us to pursue.
Men plugging dikes might have new meaning with the recent law changes in Fl.

[jimjamuser]

A warmer planet is a better planet. Maybe, if it gets warm enough, the Vikings will return to Greenland -- which will be more green -- and that's a good thing.
A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

[sounding]

A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

Think outside the box. When the earth warms, populations will move north. Once the Greenland ice melts just think of how many millions of more people can live there. And image of all the coal, oil, and gas just waiting to be mined -- and probably gold & silver and more. Oh -- I am wishing for global warming. No wonder Trump wanted to buy Greenland.

[Normal]

A warmer planet will cause flies, mosquitos, mice, and other rodent vermin to carry more deadly diseases to more humans in the now warmer temperate zones where the bulk of the earth's population exists. Be careful what you wish for, it could backfire!

When we get warmer, adjustments will just have to be made. Hopefully we do a lot better than the dinosaurs did when they moved from a warmer phase to a colder Ice age. The earth will always warm and cool, it is up to the human race to adjust or die.

[sounding]

When we get warmer, adjustments will just have to be made. Hopefully we do a lot better than the dinosaurs did when they moved from a warmer phase to a colder Ice age. The earth will always warm and cool, it is up to the human race to adjust or die.

History repeatedly shows that humanity advances during warm periods (like the Medieval and Roman warm periods) and suffers during cold periods (like the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age).

[CoachKandSportsguy]

History repeatedly shows that humanity advances during warm periods (like the Medieval and Roman warm periods) and suffers during cold periods (like the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age).

Oh interesting! There were other times in history when temperatures rose above the norm. The only problem is that todays thermometer is only almost 200 years old. So with only 200 years of measured history in small records, we can can now speculate about the prior 2000 years as the same as last first 100 years of the thermometer

Clown world

[Boffin]

97854

[sounding]

Oh interesting! There were other times in history when temperatures rose above the norm. The only problem is that todays thermometer is only almost 200 years old. So with only 200 years of measured history in small records, we can can now speculate about the prior 2000 years as the same as last first 100 years of the thermometer

Clown world

While speculation is fun, there are numerous proxies showing past warm/cool cycles, which are confirmed by the IPCC and many others. This is how we know about the Ice Ages and many other climate changes. Javier Vinos has a great book about this called -- Climate of the Past, Present and Future.

[sounding]

97854

Good graph. Shows we have been in the Pleistocene Ice Age for the past 2.5 million years. These are chilly times on earth.

[Nana2Teddy]

Arrived in August and would pour every day, so gutters were first priority. Call Stipes to install by end of May or beware of flooded lanai.
Thanks! We’re on list to glass-in lanai before May. Will still look into gutters though.

[kkingston57]

Cor D'alaine Idaho would have been a better choice for the summer 6 months.

And a boatload more expensive,

[kkingston57]

A warmer planet is a better planet. Maybe, if it gets warm enough, the Vikings will return to Greenland -- which will be more green -- and that's a good thing.

Greenland getting warm and probably melting? No worry. Most of the population of Florida would be below sea level.

[sounding]

Greenland getting warm and probably melting? No worry. Most of the population of Florida would be below sea level.

During the last Interglacial Warm Period (the Eemian) the oceans were 15 to 25 feet higher than today. So more sea level rise is completely natural. We should expect that to happen because we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age. Fortunately, the Villages is above 60 feet ASL, and we won't have to drive so far to get to the coast.

[jimjamuser]

Think outside the box. When the earth warms, populations will move north. Once the Greenland ice melts just think of how many millions of more people can live there. And image of all the coal, oil, and gas just waiting to be mined -- and probably gold & silver and more. Oh -- I am wishing for global warming. No wonder Trump wanted to buy Greenland.
Buying Greenland WOULD have been a great idea. The US has historically profited when it had a frontier to exploit (and minerals like Lithium and others would have been helpful).

[jimjamuser]

History repeatedly shows that humanity advances during warm periods (like the Medieval and Roman warm periods) and suffers during cold periods (like the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age).
But, those times were NOT caused by MAN and their habit of expelling excessive CO2 gas. Very different situations!

[jimjamuser]

97854
Gee whiz, I wonder why the graph of temperatures today is headed STRAIGHT UP? That could NOT POSSIBLY have anything to do with mankind, CO2 production, and Global Warming?

[jimjamuser]

While speculation is fun, there are numerous proxies showing past warm/cool cycles, which are confirmed by the IPCC and many others. This is how we know about the Ice Ages and many other climate changes. Javier Vinos has a great book about this called -- Climate of the Past, Present and Future.
Didn't Javier play 2nd base for the Yankees in 1975?

[jimjamuser]

And a boatload more expensive,
Strangely, it is only recently (last 10 years) that Coeur d'Alene has gotten expensive due to re-location by Californians. The Villages have become very expensive in the last 5 years also.
........The rich can live anywhere they want!

[jimjamuser]

Greenland getting warm and probably melting? No worry. Most of the population of Florida would be below sea level.
True that! All the world's oceans are raising at an increasing rate. Tell your children NOT to buy Florida coastal property. In fact, due to increasing heat tell them that they would be better off in North Carolina.

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Didn't Javier play 2nd base for the Yankees in 1975?

You decide. Here is his book ...
https://judithcurry.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Vinos-CPPF2022.pdf

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Gee whiz, I wonder why the graph of temperatures today is headed STRAIGHT UP? That could NOT POSSIBLY have anything to do with mankind, CO2 production, and Global Warming?

PAUSE is in the title of the article, but the "trend" line is negative (or slight cooling) ... The New Pause lengthens to 8 years 9 months – Watts Up With That? (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/04/03/the-new-pause-lengthens-to-8-years-9-months/)

[JMintzer]

Gee whiz, I wonder why the graph of temperatures today is headed STRAIGHT UP? That could NOT POSSIBLY have anything to do with mankind, CO2 production, and Global Warming?

Good question. Can you explain why it went straight down just before it went straight up?

[Stu from NYC]

Good question. Can you explain why it went straight down just before it went straight up?

Once again confusing people with facts. Your point does not fit the narrative so it will not be acceptable.

[Dusty_Star]

& we just may get lots of rain by the end of this week. A bit earlier than predicted.

[midiwiz]

With less than 2 inches of rain this year, Orlando is enduring its second driest stretch from Jan. 1 to April 5 since the late 1800s and also its hottest on record for that period.

Central Florida and much of the state’s peninsula are experiencing a widening severe drought, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, a collaboration of universities and federal environmental agencies.

“When was the last time it rained?” said Fran Boettcher, a master gardener at the Orange County and University of Florida agricultural extension center. “Who can remember?”

In Orlando, the last measurable rain was 25 days ago, when just .15 inches barely wetted the ground, boosting the year’s rain to 1.89 inches, or about as much as a single, typical summer downpour can bring.

The Drought Monitor is updated weekly on Thursday mornings. The newest report shows 55 percent of Florida under severe drought now, up from 20 percent at the start of this year and less than 1 percent last year at this time.

Also on Thursday, Florida’s commissioner of agriculture, Wilton Simpson, warned of a potentially torrid brush and forest fire season in the making from Ocala south across a tinder-dry landscape. His department oversees the Florida Forest Service, the lead agency for wildfire responses.

He urged care with backyard barbecues and watchfulness for arson and lightning strikes. Burn bans have been declared for Brevard, Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties.

We are asking everyone to be very vigilant,” Simpson said. “We realize this already has been a very busy season.”

Typically, April is a tough month for lawns and landscaping, as spring brings hotter weather but not much rain. On average, the dry season transitions to the rainy season in Orlando on May 27, or five days before the Atlantic hurricane season begins.

Derrick Weitlich, a lead meteorologist and climate program leader at the National Weather Service in Central Florida, said precipitation across the region so far in 2023 has ranged from 1 to 4 inches, which is as much as 6 inches below normal.

But, with global heating stirring the climate pot, weather has been wickedly fickle during the past half-year.

Hurricane Ian brought widespread flooding and record rainfall to Central Florida in late September.

By early October, the Florida peninsula was entirely drought free, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor, while much of the West and especially California were dealing with brutally dry conditions.

With historic amounts of rain and snow this year in California and unrelenting drying out across Florida’s peninsula, the drought map has reversed.

California now has almost no severe drought and nearly all of Florida’s peninsula is swaddled in it.

The Drought Monitor Thursday cited reports in Central Florida of “numerous impacts of very dry conditions in the region including water holes drying up and areas experiencing extremely poor pasture conditions with supplemental feeding necessary to maintain livestock.”

For Central Florida residents watching their lawns broil into brown, Boettcher, the master gardener, suggested it might be time to consider switching to Florida native plants that can shrug off dry spells a lot better than thirsty grass.

“Lawns need a lot of water, fertilizer and pest control,” Boettcher said. “That’s a lot of time and a lot of pocket book.”

just wait 5 minutes and it changes. no big deal happens every year.

[Normal]

A lot of people live on or near irrigation reservoirs, (retention ponds) down south. The dynamic visual may contribute to anxiety about no rain, but a quick Internet search will tell you rain comes in May and continues throughout the summer and fall months. The aquifers underground should be spot on for water for this time of year, SO RELAX and ENJOY.

[Causey]

Left New England to escape snow and ice. The plan has come together nicely, the weather has been great. Not even one day of golf lost to rain, this year so far. Love the Florida sunshine.

[Bill14564]

A lot of people live on or near irrigation reservoirs, (retention ponds) down south. The dynamic visual may contribute to anxiety about no rain, but a quick Internet search will tell you rain comes in May and continues throughout the summer and fall months. The aquifers underground should be spot on for water for this time of year, SO RELAX and ENJOY.

The ponds in the north are very low as well. That quick search of the internet will also show that our rainfall this year is far below normal. While the heavier rains do start in May and June, we still should get some rain in January through April - more than we have had this year. (Then again, 2022 started slow as well and finished with higher than average rainfall)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The ponds in the north are very low as well. That quick search of the internet will also show that our rainfall this year is far below normal. While the heavier rains do start in May and June, we still should get some rain in January through April - more than we have had this year. (Then again, 2022 started slow as well and finished with higher than average rainfall)

A concern about lower rainfall for months: the dirt becomes packed. It can't absorb the rain as quickly as if it was kept somewhat moist throughout. If it's been dry for months and there's suddenly a downpour, it can quickly flood before it can absorb into the ground.

Sort of like a kitchen dish sponge. When they're totally dried out, they don't absorb as efficiently in getting water off the counter. But if you wet them and squeeze them first - they'll get the water up quick in a jiffy.

[Normal]

The ponds in the north are very low as well. That quick search of the internet will also show that our rainfall this year is far below normal. While the heavier rains do start in May and June, we still should get some rain in January through April - more than we have had this year. (Then again, 2022 started slow as well and finished with higher than average rainfall)

True, but just an anomaly for the weather here.

Year-to-Date Rainfall / Forecasts / Fire Weather / Wildland Fire / Forest & Wildfire / Home - Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services (https://www.fdacs.gov/Forest-Wildfire/Wildland-Fire/Fire-Weather/Forecasts/Year-to-Date-Rainfall)

There are better years for rain and worse. It comes and goes.