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jebartle
04-13-2023, 04:24 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

Laker14
04-13-2023, 04:36 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

Depends upon whether or not I am married to this hypothetical Villager.

fishon
04-13-2023, 04:43 AM
Yeah, welp, you’re wrong!

Ndomines
04-13-2023, 06:00 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

To be clear and express the hard facts.

The house I left behind was magnificent, the restaurants were the best. My former church, friends and neighbors were just precious. The traffic was a breeze.
The house I bought in the Village's was the best model as well as my realtor being most qualified. Thank God I bought the last one.

My doctor and dentist back home cant be beat so thats why we take trips. We have had more life saving operations, more pills and more ailments than anyone in this pool.
My landscaper gives the best deal and his work is better than anyone in our Village.
My favorite word and most often used is, what.
My grandchildren are geniuses, better looking than yours and make more money than can ever be spent. They all graduated from premier colleges at the very top of their class. Actually I just may have more than you.

I always pick up my dog poop, and yours as well!

When we dine in we use the only the best paper plates. I could say more but I am so interesting
there is not enough room or time.
Thats because I almost died six times and I have to catch the shuttle for my next cruise.

Get real
04-13-2023, 06:32 AM
Depends upon whether or not I am married to this hypothetical Villager.

perfect answer...

Caymus
04-13-2023, 06:53 AM
Tell him if it is a "real fact" such as the names of state capitals. Move on if it an "opinion fact" such as best economic policies.

fdpaq0580
04-13-2023, 11:07 AM
To be clear and express the hard facts.

The house I left behind was magnificent, the restaurants were the best. My former church, friends and neighbors were just precious. The traffic was a breeze.
The house I bought in the Village's was the best model as well as my realtor being most qualified. Thank God I bought the last one.

My doctor and dentist back home cant be beat so thats why we take trips. We have had more life saving operations, more pills and more ailments than anyone in this pool.
My landscaper gives the best deal and his work is better than anyone in our Village.
My favorite word and most often used is, what.
My grandchildren are geniuses, better looking than yours and make more money than can ever be spent. They all graduated from premier colleges at the very top of their class. Actually I just may have more than you.

I always pick up my dog poop, and yours as well!

When we dine in we use the only the best paper plates. I could say more but I am so interesting
there is not enough room or time.
Thats because I almost died six times and I have to catch the shuttle for my next cruise.

WOW! You're amazing. I'm not worthy!

LuvNH
04-13-2023, 12:54 PM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

It really depends on the relationship. If you want to retain the relationship .... move on. If you could care less, tell him/her they have their head up their balckside and see how that works for you.

La lamy
04-13-2023, 03:40 PM
I always try to correct a wrong when I'm certain it's a wrong. Even when I do it super diplomatically, not everybody likes to be corrected! Such a drag when trying to be helpful turns into making bad waves. But still worth it to me.

LuvNH
04-13-2023, 04:28 PM
I always try to correct a wrong when I'm certain it's a wrong. Even when I do it super diplomatically, not everybody likes to be corrected! Such a drag when trying to be helpful turns into making bad waves. But still worth it to me.

But then you come back to the question "am I sure you are wrong, maybe it is me that is wrong".

blueash
04-13-2023, 04:31 PM
It really depends on the relationship. If you want to retain the relationship .... move on. If you could care less, tell him/her they have their head up their balckside and see how that works for you.

Hate to correct you when you are wrong.... but the correct wordage for the phrase is "couldn't care less". If you say could care less it means you do care about the issue.

I will get off your lawn now.

Toymeister
04-13-2023, 04:55 PM
Usually I ignore them unless they are presenting themselves as an expert and others may come to rely upon this faulty data to make decisions.

coralway
04-13-2023, 04:57 PM
Move on. Everyone has their own “alternative facts”

Worldseries27
04-14-2023, 04:43 AM
do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????
i know a few villagers you could practice your powers of persuasion with.

PersonOfInterest
04-14-2023, 05:21 AM
Sometimes Facts and Data may not be factual or true depending on your perspective.

Fact: The earth is Round

Not everyone accepts that Fact. If you set out to prove that fact how do you prove the Evidence that you present? For example you have a photo of the earth from the moon showing its round. How do you prove the photo is real?

I usually take the approach that the other person's position is not the same as mine. Rather than say they are Wrong I would say that My position is different and I could state that I see things differently.

midiwiz
04-14-2023, 05:25 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

why diplomatically, could be far more fun just saying it.

CoachKandSportsguy
04-14-2023, 05:32 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

there are very extremely low number of facts posted here. . more like personal opinions or highly generalized assumptions of situations or events . . . . . not everyone sees the sky as blue (literally and factually, though the population who can't, blind and colorblind are extremely small, so seldom is anything 100% factual except math and laws of physics). . . but to the person owning the opinions . . the opinion is presented as facts by them. .

so then people get into typing contests at each other. . .

however, posters should actually sit back and wonder why the poster believes his/her posts. . . and then maybe the poster has some expertise/career experience somewhere the reader doesn't have. . or maybe . . .

I was just having a bad day and can't take it out on the wife nor kick the cats. . .
sorry readers . . .
:undecided: :evil6: :boxing2:

Sandy and Ed
04-14-2023, 05:38 AM
If the person is a friend by all means let the truth be told. Me? I would thank you for setting me straight. May help me avoid a future embarrassing response. If not a friend, thread carefully: “gee, Are you sure? I recall hearing (reading, experiencing, learning, etc) ….blah, blah, blah. May be better way of handling it. OR, if not that important, ignore and move on

RedWingNut
04-14-2023, 05:39 AM
Why is it so important to correct someone you think is wrong ??? Is this the best thing you can do with the remaining time left in your life ? The most important thing is to trust in your own beliefs, respect the fact others have the right not only to their own opinions, they also have the right to be wrong. Live and let live, enjoy your remaining days left to the fullest, don’t sweat the small stuff

spinner1001
04-14-2023, 06:22 AM
TOTV - duty calls.

MidWestIA
04-14-2023, 06:52 AM
IF it makes a MAJOR difference ok otherwise don't bother probably won't admit it anyway

jimbomaybe
04-14-2023, 06:55 AM
Why is it so important to correct someone you think is wrong ??? Is this the best thing you can do with the remaining time left in your life ? The most important thing is to trust in your own beliefs, respect the fact others have the right not only to their own opinions, they also have the right to be wrong. Live and let live, enjoy your remaining days left to the fullest, don’t sweat the small stuff
Live and let live ,, of course but to live is to grow,, the only way to expand your perspective is to be exposed to other opinions, start with yourself, have differences with respect, tact, try to hear what the other person is saying, whatever you believe your thoughts are only as good as how well they stand up to the knowledge and experience of others,

Eg_cruz
04-14-2023, 08:19 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????
If it’s worth the win, if not move on

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-14-2023, 08:27 AM
Why is it so important to correct someone you think is wrong ??? Is this the best thing you can do with the remaining time left in your life ? The most important thing is to trust in your own beliefs, respect the fact others have the right not only to their own opinions, they also have the right to be wrong. Live and let live, enjoy your remaining days left to the fullest, don’t sweat the small stuff

When we base our decisions on our beliefs, it can have a ripple effect. non-political example:

You read on twitter, facebook, Fox News, and The Villages Radio that scientists have proven that driving gas golf carts leads to more deaths from faulty driving than driving electric golf carts. Not only that, but there is a class action suit against Yamaha for the wrongful deaths of over 10,000 people nationwide, as a result of the mechanics and logistics of their golf carts.

This news spreads nationwide, until suddenly, everyone's trying to unload their gas golf carts cheap, ClubCar announces THEIR golf carts haven't had any of these problems, and Yamaha comes out with new - more expensive - electric golf carts.

The existing yamaha gas carts cease to be popular, their stock tanks, shareholders can't recuperate, protesters march on their elected officials to outlaw gas golf carts, Yamaha is vilified, and has to lay off 500 people and close down 400 sales centers.


But the truth of the matter, is that it was just some random guy on the internet who didn't like his Yamaha golf cart, complained about how it was inconvenient for his wife - who is shorter than he is - to reach for the pedal and was worried some day it'd result in an accident because the seat isn't adjustable.

The conspiracy nuts picked it up and ran with it, spinning it into an anti-Yamaha rant. Obviously Club Car was elated and used it to their advantage in increasing their own sales.

Your choice to rely on unverified facts that can be easily proven false, has an impact on everything. It's called the ripple effect and can start with false information, or it can start with you simply being in a bad mood, or stubbing your toe and walking around all day with a bit of a limp.

OhioBuckeye
04-14-2023, 08:42 AM
Yea, I know sometimes I shoot my mouth off when I know I shouldn’t but I’m pretty opinionated when it comes to our present govt. or EV’s. I try to keep my mouth shut because it always seems to get me into trouble & TOTV bans me & probably rightly so. So I won’t get into something that’ll get me into trouble.

rsibole
04-14-2023, 09:36 AM
I had an Uncle who lived to be 110-yrs old. Know how he did it . . . . minding his own damn business. Here’s to a long and happy life 🥂

Rodneysblue
04-14-2023, 12:17 PM
Agree to disagree.

DAVES
04-14-2023, 12:55 PM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

Many missing details. What is the motive? What do you gain?
My definition of a friend is someone who can tell you you are wrong, do it PRIVATELY and you know it might be correct and think about it.

I have few friends but know lots of people.

DAVES
04-14-2023, 01:16 PM
If the person is a friend by all means let the truth be told. Me? I would thank you for setting me straight. May help me avoid a future embarrassing response. If not a friend, thread carefully: “gee, Are you sure? I recall hearing (reading, experiencing, learning, etc) ….blah, blah, blah. May be better way of handling it. OR, if not that important, ignore and move on

Truth, if you can't be honest, for me it is an acquaintance not a friend. There is a time and a place.

"I would thank you for setting me straight." Perhaps, how it should be. Sad REALITY, I cannot recall ever hearing that. It is a beautiful day in the villages is perhaps a good way to tell people to STUFF IT.

jebartle
04-14-2023, 02:05 PM
Remember the old Southern Charm School lesson, "Isn't that nice" instead of "Who gives a damn", might work here, lol!

mermaids
04-14-2023, 05:11 PM
I understand people sometimes forget to turn off or use turn signals. But I do yell "@# hole it's a stop sign" when I see so many vehicles not stopping!

collegeref
04-14-2023, 06:01 PM
Depends what party they belong too 😂😂😂

jimjamuser
04-14-2023, 07:13 PM
I always try to correct a wrong when I'm certain it's a wrong. Even when I do it super diplomatically, not everybody likes to be corrected! Such a drag when trying to be helpful turns into making bad waves. But still worth it to me.
Someone trying to be helpful automatically draws suspicion that they are from the Midwest or Canada.

jimjamuser
04-14-2023, 07:15 PM
But then you come back to the question "am I sure you are wrong, maybe it is me that is wrong".
For most people that 2nd part never occurs.

jimjamuser
04-14-2023, 07:22 PM
there are very extremely low number of facts posted here. . more like personal opinions or highly generalized assumptions of situations or events . . . . . not everyone sees the sky as blue (literally and factually, though the population who can't, blind and colorblind are extremely small, so seldom is anything 100% factual except math and laws of physics). . . but to the person owning the opinions . . the opinion is presented as facts by them. .

so then people get into typing contests at each other. . .

however, posters should actually sit back and wonder why the poster believes his/her posts. . . and then maybe the poster has some expertise/career experience somewhere the reader doesn't have. . or maybe . . .

I was just having a bad day and can't take it out on the wife nor kick the cats. . .
sorry readers . . .
:undecided: :evil6: :boxing2:
At the upper levels of Math and Physics there IS disagreement and opinions.

Taltarzac725
04-14-2023, 08:04 PM
Depends on whether or not I think they might be carrying a weapon of some kind.

kkingston57
04-15-2023, 07:22 AM
Do you tell him/her he is wrong diplomatically, or just move on????

Depends upon the person. There are some who will listen and others who will not listen to anyone. Remember the term "alternative facts". To answer your ? if you like the person and agree with that person most of the time Move ON.

unialimon
04-15-2023, 09:22 AM
What? A villager wrong!

justjim
04-15-2023, 02:44 PM
A great philosopher once said “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”. Andy Rooney