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Michael G.
04-14-2023, 10:34 AM
A good (quote) on computers and Humans........
“Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid.
Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate, and brilliant.
Together they are powerful beyond imagination.” - Albert Einstein.
OrangeBlossomBaby
04-14-2023, 10:47 AM
A good (quote) on computers and Humans........
“Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid.
Human beings are incredibly slow, inaccurate, and brilliant.
Together they are powerful beyond imagination.” - Albert Einstein.
I agree with the content of the quote -
however, there is no evidence that Einstein ever said it or wrote it anywhere, ever in his entire life. He died in 1955. The oldest attribution of that quote is dated 1969, in a journal called Advances in Instrumentation.
Even with a computer there is no substitute for a good operator. Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid. On the other hand, a well trained operator as compared with a computer is incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant.
Michael G.
04-14-2023, 10:55 AM
I agree with the content of the quote -
however, there is no evidence that Einstein ever said it or wrote it anywhere, ever in his entire life. He died in 1955. The oldest attribution of that quote is dated 1969, in a journal called Advances in Instrumentation.
Your evidence makes sense to me, Thanks
Keefelane66
04-14-2023, 11:01 AM
Thanks for picking up on this. Some people are full of wealth of useless information or was the quote from Leo Cherne
fdpaq0580
04-14-2023, 11:03 AM
Einstein? Doesn't sound like him.
Sounds more like Hawking to me. I could believe that possible.
OrangeBlossomBaby
04-14-2023, 11:04 AM
Thanks for picking up on this. Some people are full of wealth of useless information or was the quote from Leo Cherne
It was attributed to Leo Cherne but if you dig deep enough into the black holes of Google you'll find that 1969 journal reference, that predates Cherne by around 6 years.
Blueblaze
04-14-2023, 06:32 PM
After 40-plus years as a professional computer programmer, I have but one observation to make about computers.
In order to screw anything up beyond all hope of repair, you need a computer.
tophcfa
04-14-2023, 07:03 PM
After 40-plus years as a professional computer programmer, I have but one observation to make about computers.
In order to screw anything up beyond all hope of repair, you need a computer.
That’s why I love old cars that don’t have any computer chips in them. In my humble opinion the world was a much simpler and better place before cell phones and the internet. Kids actually went outside and did stuff like climb a tree. And with no social media, mental health issues were way less and mass shootings were few and far between. Sometimes change is not a good thing.
rsmurano
04-15-2023, 05:06 AM
I also have 45 years in the information technology field. I think the original post needs clarification: not all people are brilliant and not all computers are stupid. Have you heard the phrase garbage in-garbage out? If you have a human that doesn’t know what they are doing and feeding a computer wrong information, the computer will give inaccurate results very fast. We have been getting prepared for many years/decades for when computers can think for themselves and that’s called AI, and this can be real scary if done wrong.
Worldseries27
04-15-2023, 05:50 AM
i agree with the content of the quote -
however, there is no evidence that einstein ever said it or wrote it anywhere, ever in his entire life. He died in 1955. The oldest attribution of that quote is dated 1969, in a journal called advances in instrumentation.
here's a quote
Michael G.
04-15-2023, 06:46 AM
That’s why I love old cars that don’t have any computer chips in them. In my humble opinion the world was a much simpler and better place before cell phones and the internet. Kids actually went outside and did stuff like climb a tree. And with no social media, mental health issues were way less and mass shootings were few and far between. Sometimes change is not a good thing.
Welcome to your senior years :smiley:
Davonu
04-15-2023, 07:07 AM
That’s why I love old cars that don’t have any computer chips in them. In my humble opinion the world was a much simpler and better place before cell phones and the internet. Kids actually went outside and did stuff like climb a tree. And with no social media, mental health issues were way less and mass shootings were few and far between. Sometimes change is not a good thing.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet! :)
APHVILLA
04-15-2023, 09:04 AM
In 1968, Pablo Picasso stated that, “Computers are useless. They can only give you answers”
jimjamuser
04-15-2023, 07:39 PM
That’s why I love old cars that don’t have any computer chips in them. In my humble opinion the world was a much simpler and better place before cell phones and the internet. Kids actually went outside and did stuff like climb a tree. And with no social media, mental health issues were way less and mass shootings were few and far between. Sometimes change is not a good thing.
Overall a good post. But, mass shootings can not be attributed to cell phone usage and the internet. Need to look to Australia for solutions to that one.
jimjamuser
04-15-2023, 07:42 PM
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet! :)
I agree that the US keeps setting records. I think problems will keep increasing into the near future. There are accelerants, but no decelerates.
JMintzer
04-16-2023, 08:13 AM
Overall a good post. But, mass shootings can not be attributed to cell phone usage and the internet. Need to look to Australia for solutions to that one.
Okay.. Let's make the US an island, with a strict immigration policy...
P.S. There are more guns in Australia now than before their "buyback" (read: confiscation)...
Australia: More Guns Now Than Before Port Arthur - The Australia Institute (https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/australia-more-guns-now-than-before-port-arthur/)
PugMom
04-16-2023, 09:32 AM
That’s why I love old cars that don’t have any computer chips in them. In my humble opinion the world was a much simpler and better place before cell phones and the internet. Kids actually went outside and did stuff like climb a tree. And with no social media, mental health issues were way less and mass shootings were few and far between. Sometimes change is not a good thing.
Quote of the day! Thx so much
daniel200
04-16-2023, 10:05 AM
Okay.. Let's make the US an island, with a strict immigration policy...
P.S. There are more guns in Australia now than before their "buyback" (read: confiscation)...
Australia: More Guns Now Than Before Port Arthur - The Australia Institute (https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/australia-more-guns-now-than-before-port-arthur/)
Lets dive into the data:
Gun ownership per household in Australia has fallen 75%
The proportion of Australians who hold a gun licence has fallen by 48 percent since 1997.
The homes that already have guns are buying more guns and now have 4 guns per licensed owner
“In the wake of John Howard’s gun reforms, the risk of an Australian dying by gunshot quickly fell by more than half – and it’s stayed that low for 25 years
New gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur - The University of Sydney (https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html)
JMintzer
04-16-2023, 10:09 AM
Lets dive into the data:
Gun ownership per household in Australia has fallen 75%
The proportion of Australians who hold a gun licence has fallen by 48 percent since 1997.
The homes that already have guns are buying more guns and now have 4 guns per licensed owner
“In the wake of John Howard’s gun reforms, the risk of an Australian dying by gunshot quickly fell by more than half – and it’s stayed that low for 25 years
New gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur - The University of Sydney (https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html)
The risk was low BEFORE Port Arthur...
They found a solution in search of a problem...
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