Question of the Day?

[Michael G.]

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The signage in this picture was posted on Social Media as "OFFENSIVE".
Do you agree?

[Bogie Shooter]

:what:


NO

who cares?

[Stu from NYC]

If I try real hard will find something more offensive but excuse me now while I pull my pants up.

[retiredguy123]

I can see it being offensive to someone who doesn't have pants. But my guess is that some people think it is racist.

[Badger 2006]

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The signage in this picture was posted on Social Media as "OFFENSIVE".
Do you agree?

That “Cracks me Up”

[Boomer]

"Pull your pants up. Turn your hat around. Get a job," said P. J. O'Rourke. (I think that line is from his 1996 book Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence and a Bad Haircut.)

O'Rourke was a brilliant satirist, genius wit, fellow-Buckeye and fellow boomer. We lost him too soon. Lung cancer. Just reading the titles of his books is fun. And if you do not know anything about him, but would like to, his obit in The New York Times can be found online. (Not everybody gets a NYT obit. You gotta be really famous.)

Have you ever thought about who you would love to invite to a dinner party -- an imaginary dinner party -- where you could pick 4 people, living or dead? Well......P. J. O'Rourke would definitely be invited to my dinner party, along with Dorothy Parker, Mark Twain, and Erma Bombeck. Oh, well, I digress.......now, back to the "offensive" sign.

The sign is not offensive. We are living in a time when a lot of people go around looking for some lameazz reason to take umbrage and point fingers, to get all fired up, and to fire up others.

Sadly though, I think there is an old and serious reason behind that sign. It made me think about a long time ago -- when the high school where I worked changed the dress code -- to make baggy pants a violation. The change had nothing to do with anybody's imitation of their favorite entertainers. The change had everything to do with Columbine. After April 20, 1999, schools suddenly had to look at things differently than we had ever imagined. And who could ever have imagined now........

Boomer

[retiredguy123]

"Pull your pants up. Turn your hat around. Get a job," said P. J. O'Rourke. (I think that line is from his 1996 book Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence and a Bad Haircut.)

O'Rourke was a brilliant satirist, genius wit, fellow-Buckeye and fellow boomer. We lost him too soon. Lung cancer. Just reading the titles of his books is fun. And if you do not know anything about him, but would like to, his obit in The New York Times can be found online. (Not everybody gets a NYT obit. You gotta be really famous.)

Have you ever thought about who you would love to invite to a dinner party -- an imaginary dinner party -- where you could pick 4 people, living or dead? Well......P. J. O'Rourke would definitely be invited to my dinner party, along with Dorothy Parker, Mark Twain, and Erma Bombeck. Oh, well, I digress.......now, back to the "offensive" sign.

The sign is not offensive. We are living in a time when a lot of people go around looking for some lameazz reason to take umbrage and point fingers, to get all fired up, and to fire up others.

Sadly though, I think there is an old and serious reason behind that sign. It made me think about a long time ago -- when the high school where I worked changed the dress code -- to make baggy pants a violation. The change had nothing to do with anybody's imitation of their favorite entertainers. The change had everything to do with Columbine. After April 20, 1999, schools suddenly had to look at things differently than we had ever imagined. And who could ever have imagined now........

Boomer
When I started as an engineer with the Federal Government, there were dress codes. Then, over the years, affirmative action and discrimination became way more important than hiring competent employees who dressed properly. When I retired, there were no dress codes at all, NONE. Management was afraid to discuss any issue that may trigger an EEO complaint. Even high level managers would show up for work wearing jeans, a tee shirt, and tennis shoes. Go figure.

[Keefelane66]

Question of the day should be “Questions of the day” in your case.

[Bill14564]

When I started as an engineer with the Federal Government, there were dress codes. Then, over the years, affirmative action and discrimination became way more important than hiring competent employees who dressed properly. When I retired, there were no dress codes at all, NONE. Management was afraid to discuss any issue that may trigger an EEO complaint. Even high level managers would show up for work wearing jeans, a tee shirt, and tennis shoes. Go figure.

I don't know, the brightest engineer I've known, measured by patents and achievements, wore jeans, tee shirts, and tennis shoes. I think I'll take engineering competence over adherence to fashion norms every time.

[jebartle]

And I thought you were going to ask, what do you call a swimmer with no arms or legs........wait for it.............are you waiting.......
BOB......sorry, not really, giggle, snort!

[Boomer]

When I started as an engineer with the Federal Government, there were dress codes. Then, over the years, affirmative action and discrimination became way more important than hiring competent employees who dressed properly. When I retired, there were no dress codes at all, NONE. Management was afraid to discuss any issue that may trigger an EEO complaint. Even high level managers would show up for work wearing jeans, a tee shirt, and tennis shoes. Go figure.



We boomer women, of a certain age, remember a book titled Dress for Success by John T. Molloy, copyright 1975. It was all about how to look professional, to compete, especially in careers that had always been mostly men…..

A career woman, in those days, did not show up for work looking like she should be working the street corner……..unless, of course, she was working the street corner.

(Ya know, I think I will see if I can find a copy of that old, old book. It would be fun to read it from the future,)

Boomer

[MrFlorida]

Its offensive if no underwear are being worn.

[villager7591]

If that is racist, then I am a big racist. Pull your pants up.

[bsloan1960]

Pull up your pants. You live among people who don't want to see your crack. While you're at it- close your shirt.

[Two Bills]

Its offensive if no underwear are being worn.

Try telling that to The Commandos. :icon_wink:

[Salty Dog]

Contrary to what media might want us think. It's not against the law to be offensive, or for that matter racist...

[Worldseries27]

In my lifetime i've noticed that lions hang out with lions, zebras with zebras, etc

[Worldseries27]

pull up your pants. You live among people who don't want to see your crack. While you're at it- close your shirt.
national slogan of wide world of plumbers assn.

[Worldseries27]

2 surgeons and a plumber are at a vip cocktail party in d.c. Comparing financials.
Dr# 1 says. I make 1800 an hour.
Dr # 2 says i make 2000 an hour
plumber says i used to make that too when i was a doctor

[MandoMan]

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The signage in this picture was posted on Social Media as "OFFENSIVE".
Do you agree?

I don’t find the sign offensive, but it may not be a good business move to anger some customers over what comes down to personal taste. A better place for such signs might be on the inside doors of toilet stalls, in case the user forgets. What offends me more is the tattoo, but again, that’s my own taste. I’ve never seen a tattoo that looks as good as the skin underneath it. But to be honest, around here, there are a lot of us with skin that looks better covered than uncovered or looks better in the dark.

[lpkruege1]

That “Cracks me Up”

Was that a plumbers Joke?

[Pgcacace]

Could it be because so many non white males wear their pants slung low in the back?

[bsloan1960]

Could it be because so many non white males wear their pants slung low in the back?

Granted it is mostly Non-Whites who wear their pants pulled down but, White or Non-White, This isn't an issue about race. People don't find exposed ass cracks offensive because of brown people's skin. They find exposed ass cracks offensive because... it is an exposed ass crack.

[Bjeanj]

You must be working hard to find things to talk about. With that being said, the topic “cracks” me up. I don’t care for this “style”, but if I’m being chased by a bear, I’d like him running behind me.

[Bjeanj]

And I thought you were going to ask, what do you call a swimmer with no arms or legs........wait for it.............are you waiting.......
BOB......sorry, not really, giggle, snort!

Sorry, but…
What do you call a man with no arms, no legs laying on the floor? Matt
What do you call a man with no arms, no legs, hanging on the wall? Art

[JMintzer]

Sorry, but…
What do you call a man with no arms, no legs laying on the floor? Matt
What do you call a man with no arms, no legs, hanging on the wall? Art

A woman with one leg longer than the other? Eileen...

[mtdjed]

The signage in this picture was posted on Social Media as "OFFENSIVE".
Do you agree?

Where is this and who are they referring to? Are they in The Villages and referring to an old man with his zipper down? Or perhaps in South Beach and referring to some young lady in a thong walking into a restaurant. If it was that young lady from South Beach in The Villages, it might be offensive to some and not others. It is all in the eye of the beholder.

So, the sign is the opinion of the owner. Offensive to you, your opinion. Offensive to the wearer, they don't care since they are out on a show. Offensive to me, I don't care. Except, in South Beach I think the thong people should be required to do a seat wipe down like that is down at health clubs.

[Pairadocs]

:what:


NO

who cares?

I'd never cause a scene, but admit I have told hubby I do dislike being behind a male whose naked rear is actually showing, I just don't like it, that may be "wrong" or "bigoted" of me, but I do dislike being in a line behind such an individual ! Just me, so I look left, or right, or at my phone, etc. is all.

[Pairadocs]

That “Cracks me Up”

hummmm....LOL...so you've been in the same airline check in line as I have, or "behind it" at the Mc D's line...LOL !

[Pairadocs]

Could it be because so many non white males wear their pants slung low in the back?

And a LOT of white male skateboarders, not as many "non white" skateboarders (that I've noticed?), and frankly, not many from Latin cultures seem to go for that style.

Just think IF a business decides for whatever reason, they don't want to look at bare (usually males) or females for that matter, and don't want their customers to have to, then put of the sign. If they loose business, so what, that's capitalism...LOL. Hair salon.... don't want to have to sit there while any gender comes in with a bare.......

[Jhnidy]

A woman with one leg longer than the other? Eileen...

Two guys hanging over a window?

[Steve]

What most of those with their pants at half mast don't realize is that the "pants on the ground" fashion started with jail inmates. Their belts would be taken away because they could be used as weapons or to commit suicide. And since some people admire these "gangstas" they lowered their pants in order to emulate them. People need to aim for higher standards than the local scofflaw.

[Steve]

You must be working hard to find things to talk about. With that being said, the topic “cracks” me up. I don’t care for this “style”, but if I’m being chased by a bear, I’d like him running behind me.

Notice this guy has a belt...he just doesn't know how to use it! I think his IQ must be as low as his pants.

[Two Bills]

I think it became a fashion so as to give overweight, unfit cops a chance in a foot pursuit. :angel:

[JMintzer]

Granted it is mostly Non-Whites who wear their pants pulled down but, White or Non-White, This isn't an issue about race. People don't find exposed ass cracks offensive because of brown people's skin. They find exposed ass cracks offensive because... it is an exposed ass crack.

I'd never cause a scene, but admit I have told hubby I do dislike being behind a male whose naked rear is actually showing, I just don't like it, that may be "wrong" or "bigoted" of me, but I do dislike being in a line behind such an individual ! Just me, so I look left, or right, or at my phone, etc. is all.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone "sagging" with a naked butt showing. It's always covered by their boxers...

And it's definitely a cultural thing... Working in DC for the last 35 years, I've seen it all.

The waistband of the pants are at half mast, but the drawers are in the right place...

Still, it looks stupid... Oh, and my retired cop friends love the look. Those fleeing always had to keep on hand holding up their pants in order for them not to fall down and cause them to trip...

But... (grin)... It seems to be a waning trend... At least in the DC area...

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I think many of the restaurants in the squares could use this sign for all the villages guys who have there pants hanging so low under there waist line

[Pairadocs]

When I started as an engineer with the Federal Government, there were dress codes. Then, over the years, affirmative action and discrimination became way more important than hiring competent employees who dressed properly. When I retired, there were no dress codes at all, NONE. Management was afraid to discuss any issue that may trigger an EEO complaint. Even high level managers would show up for work wearing jeans, a tee shirt, and tennis shoes. Go figure.

Maybe age and experience are important in prediction after all. Very early in my career, I was "certain" that a person's clothing had nothing to do with their skills and competence as an engineer, or, whatever. It took a number of years to observe how such "seemingly" foolish, Victorian like "rules" really did have on pride, order, and excellence. One has only to look at something as vast as the educational system, or medical system, to see what has happened since the "old days" of nurses in prim, clean, uniforms with "caps" that displayed their training and "status", or just the difference in the learning environment (the degree of quiet order, the listening and attention, the respect, etc.) in various school settings where the expectations are set by the teachers (T-shirts, jeans, or shirts, ties ?) and student dress. The "codes" I once thought has NOTHING to do with my intellect, my education, my success.... have now shown me the type of society we have created.... Chicago this past weekend only a small example. I now realize how such things do actually effect pride and self esteem, and impart confidence rather than defiance against civil "decency".

[Michael G.]

I remember like it was yesterday when I was in grade school, my niece from California paid us a visit in Wisconsin and she was wearing bib overhauls. :22yikes:

Jeans were invited in San Franisco according to today's Daily Sun.

[Carla B]

In agreement with MandoMan, I think the female's tatoo is equally offensive. When heavily tatooed women reach the age of 70, do they ever regret having done so?

There is a stark contrast in how dress and conduct codes have changed. As relates to dress codes, when I was in my twenties, the times dictated dressing up in tasteful dresses or business suits to 1) work in an office, 2) travel by air, and even 3) attend a college football game (at least at Rice Institute or U of Houston).

In those times men in my office wore suits or sports coats and dress pants. One man I worked with ordered his expertly tailored suits from Hong Kong. Tatoos were limited to former navy enlisted men and not seen on women. In fact, I was more eager to someday afford a cultured pearl strand or semi-precious stone bauble to adorn my neck.

[Michael G.]

In agreement with MandoMan, I think the female's tatoo is equally offensive. When heavily tatooed women reach the age of 70, do they ever regret having done so?

There is a stark contrast in how dress and conduct codes have changed. As relates to dress codes, when I was in my twenties, the times dictated dressing up in tasteful dresses or business suits to 1) work in an office, 2) travel by air, and even 3) attend a college football game (at least at Rice Institute or U of Houston).

In those times men in my office wore suits or sports coats and dress pants. One man I worked with ordered his expertly tailored suits from Hong Kong. Tatoos were limited to former navy enlisted men and not seen on women. In fact, I was more eager to someday afford a cultured pearl strand or semi-precious stone bauble to adorn my neck.

Notice old pictures of men at football games, horse races and auto races.
Every guy had a suit or a sport coat on.

I also remember my mom wouldn't let me wear jeans to church.
Oh, how times change,

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

In agreement with MandoMan, I think the female's tatoo is equally offensive. When heavily tatooed women reach the age of 70, do they ever regret having done so?

There is a stark contrast in how dress and conduct codes have changed. As relates to dress codes, when I was in my twenties, the times dictated dressing up in tasteful dresses or business suits to 1) work in an office, 2) travel by air, and even 3) attend a college football game (at least at Rice Institute or U of Houston).

In those times men in my office wore suits or sports coats and dress pants. One man I worked with ordered his expertly tailored suits from Hong Kong. Tatoos were limited to former navy enlisted men and not seen on women. In fact, I was more eager to someday afford a cultured pearl strand or semi-precious stone bauble to adorn my neck.

I don't regret getting either of my two tattoos. I'm still in my early 60's but at this point I'm confident I won't regret it when I'm 70, either. The only thing I'm not happy about with regards to one of them, is that the artist wasn't very skilled and the design looks like it's cracked. One of these days I'll pay someone to fill it in better. But I've had it this way for 28 years, I can live with it a little longer as is.

Once upon a time, women had to wear pantyhose with their dresses. Not surprisingly, douches were very popular around the same time, as were yeast infections. SO glad society got rid of THAT ridiculous requirement.

Once upon a time, heels were required for women to wear to professional jobs, flats were not acceptable or suitable. Eventually, most of those women ended up with bunions, ingrown toenails, and various other deformities of the feet. Way to keep a woman in her place, right guys? Yeah - glad that's no longer a thing too.

Once upon a time, women were required to wear corsets. Unsurprisingly, a lot of women had fainting spells during that era. Glad THAT requirement is gone.

Perhaps some men lack the mental ability or maybe the confidence in their own masculinity, to appreciate the fact that society has changed for the better.

But yes I think that people (men and women) who wear their pants down low enough to show off the crack in their butts are being unfashionable, and crass. On the other hand, I don't object to nudity, and don't consider nudity to be sexual. But there's good taste, and there's bad taste - and there's lack of taste. I consider the droopy-drawers look to be tasteless.

[Two Bills]

I don't really worry how low my pants get.
The way my body mass is heading south, my butt is nearly at the back of my knees anyway.
Pants are only playing catch-up. :shrug: