View Full Version : Is there some reason behind our street numbers?
MrChip72
04-16-2023, 10:39 PM
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
Garywt
04-16-2023, 10:49 PM
Some numbers are 3 and some are 5 but have never seen less than 3. Don’t know why. I guess no different than the county naming our street with a direction SE, then a number 168th and then the street name. Kind of crazy.
Two Bills
04-17-2023, 03:30 AM
Here is a previous thread on the same subject.
I thought the best answer was it was done to confuse FedEx drivers.:thumbup:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/street-has-40-homes-why-house-numbers-4-digits-336940/?highlight=Street+numbers
Bay Kid
04-17-2023, 06:00 AM
It seems strange why the numbers mixed going down a street.
Maker
04-17-2023, 06:35 AM
All numbers in a line from east to west are the same on every street along that imaginary line. Same for along a north to south line.
Velvet
04-17-2023, 08:18 AM
I have always thought it was to confuse the FedEx delivery guy. Also our house number was not posted at all so they’d have to calculate which house we could be in.
unialimon
04-17-2023, 05:38 PM
Here I thought it was for the Amazon guy.
Taltarzac725
04-17-2023, 05:55 PM
The USPS contracted Villages' mail stations also seem to have problems. I often have neighbors' mail in our box and vice -versa.
bsloan1960
04-17-2023, 06:01 PM
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
Where I live in Mass house numbers correspond to the number of houses on a street. If Elm street have 45 houses they will be numbered 1 through 45. If there happens to be empty lots the numbers would jump by one for each lot. So the above Elm street if it had 45 houses and 2 empty lots the numbers would be 1 through 47 to allow for houses to be built on the 2 lots. Every other street in all the towns surrounding us use this same system. Every town I've ever lived in- and we've moved a lot also use this same system, so The Villages system seems strange to me. "It is for emergency services"- Why? If a First Responder needs to find 22 Elm street- they simply drive to 22 Elm St.
TheDolls
04-18-2023, 05:36 AM
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
Usually, the street numbers indicate how far you are from the center of a city. There is an imaginary line that runs north and south and another that runs east and west. Addresses that are north or south are that far north or south of the center line that runs east/west. For example, 4112 North Some St. would be 4.1 ish miles north of the east/west center line of the city. It’s also probably 41 “blocks” north…although not all the blocks are necessarily used for anything. So, the next block north of the 4112 North Some St. address would be 42## Some St.
Sandy and Ed
04-18-2023, 06:06 AM
Usually, the street numbers indicate how far you are from the center of a city. There is an imaginary line that runs north and south and another that runs east and west. Addresses that are north or south are that far north or south of the center line that runs east/west. For example, 4112 North Some St. would be 4.1 ish miles north of the east/west center line of the city. It’s also probably 41 “blocks” north…although not all the blocks are necessarily used for anything. So, the next block north of the 4112 North Some St. address would be 42## Some St.
Sounds logical…..in a strange sort of way. I’m curious why I see addresses like “1875 NE 135th Street Road”. Is it a street or a road? Is it a Boulevard or an Avenue?? Come on!! Make up your mind!
GATORBILL66
04-18-2023, 07:08 AM
[QUOTE=MrChip72;2208218]In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?[/QUOTE
The Villages does not assign house number. The house numbers are pre assigned by The United States Postal Service.
bigjohnny19
04-18-2023, 07:52 AM
Marion County uses numbers as their street names. The Villages prefers to use words for naming streets. Hence the combination longer addresses in the northern end.
geobar
04-18-2023, 08:23 AM
I believe if you get a high majority of owners on your block to approve your numbers to be only 2 digits you then can hire an Attorney to proceed with the County in which you reside to have them changed to your liking.
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After all, you have nothing better to do. Hopefully, your neighbors will agree with your expenditures for all.
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Please advise me of your results.
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
TVTVTV
04-18-2023, 09:10 AM
Down in the newer villages one street has 4 digits and the adjacent street has 3 digits. This is very common, but I don't understand why. And I understand odd and even numbers, but why do so many house numbers skip numbers, like 4653, next is 4659, then 4665 and on. There are no empty lots, so what is the reason?
nn0wheremann
04-18-2023, 09:34 AM
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
Sumter and Marion counties use a quadrant grid system for location addressing. In Marion County it is centered at Fort King Street & Magnolia Avenue in Ocala. Since I live NN blocks east and 176 blocks south of that spot my address is NNxx SE 176th St. The Villages did not like the grid name, so they gave the streets non numerical names appended to the grid name.The idea behind the grid system is to aid emergency services dispatch. Most counties have Streets running east and west, Avenues running north and south. ACTC is the mnemonic. Avenues, Courts, Terraces, Circles North-South; SPLL, Streets, Places, Lanes, & Loops run East-West. Roads meander or run as diagonals.
If you really want to be confused, go to <www.Marionfl.org/home/showpublisheddocument/21649>
Should you go to Gainesville, none of this applies, the grid in Alachua County is 90 degrees off.
Velvet
04-18-2023, 09:48 AM
[QUOTE=MrChip72;2208218]In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?[/QUOTE
The Villages does not assign house number. The house numbers are pre assigned by The United States Postal Service.
Seriously? Then someone at USPS has a great sense of humor. I mean what are they expecting, one house on my street is x81 the next one to it is x93, the lots are postage stamp size - were they thinking in the future 5 houses would be built in between them?
gobuck827
04-18-2023, 04:41 PM
In most Villages they seem to be 4 digits. It seems there must be a reason why my address is 30xx even though my street only has 10 homes on it. Would seem more intuitive if my address was a single digit.
Does the first two digits have some special meaning like what village you're in or something like that?
Official 911 addresses are assigned by a department of the county. In Sumter it is the Addressing Office.
Addressing | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/237/Addressing)
BrianL99
04-18-2023, 06:49 PM
Where I live in Mass house numbers correspond to the number of houses on a street. If Elm street have 45 houses they will be numbered 1 through 45. If there happens to be empty lots the numbers would jump by one for each lot. So the above Elm street if it had 45 houses and 2 empty lots the numbers would be 1 through 47 to allow for houses to be built on the 2 lots. Every other street in all the towns surrounding us use this same system. Every town I've ever lived in- and we've moved a lot also use this same system, so The Villages system seems strange to me. "It is for emergency services"- Why? If a First Responder needs to find 22 Elm street- they simply drive to 22 Elm St.
No offense, but that's not how it works. Each Town in Massachusetts chooses how to number homes on a street .... usually the Town Clerk.
They all vary. Some assign a street number to every 50' of frontage.
Much of the USA uses a completely different system, based on a "zero" line, either North-South or East-West. In most cases, the 1st two numbers are essentially an "area code" and the next 2 or 3 numbers are a sequential numbering.
In Florida, I believe the County is responsible for creating their own numbering system and it's usually based a North/South or East/West grid, with the first 2 numbers indicating the distance from the "zero point".
Sumter County has an "Address Office":
Addressing | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/237/Addressing)
Marion County uses a different system.
Velvet
04-18-2023, 07:27 PM
No offense, but that's not how it works. Each Town in Massachusetts chooses how to number homes on a street .... usually the Town Clerk.
They all vary. Some assign a street number to every 50' of frontage.
Much of the USA uses a completely different system, based on a "zero" line, either North-South or East-West. In most cases, the 1st two numbers are essentially an "area code" and the next 2 or 3 numbers are a sequential numbering.
In Florida, I believe the County is responsible for creating their own numbering system and it's usually based a North/South or East/West grid, with the first 2 numbers indicating the distance from the "zero point".
Sumter County has an "Address Office":
Addressing | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/237/Addressing)
Marion County uses a different system.
Aha, that explains it then! With our curvy streets and cul-de-sacs in my area who would know if they were going north or south? So that wouldn’t be a great guide for numbering houses. Just about an hour ago, a person on my street (I sort of know) asked me to bring over something to her house. I asked her what is your house number (she lives on my street).? She looked at me, thought about it, then said, “Do you know Judy R?” I nodded. She said, “Well, I’m in the house right beside her, my name is on the sign.”
MrChip72
04-19-2023, 04:55 PM
I believe if you get a high majority of owners on your block to approve your numbers to be only 2 digits you then can hire an Attorney to proceed with the County in which you reside to have them changed to your liking.
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After all, you have nothing better to do. Hopefully, your neighbors will agree with your expenditures for all.
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Please advise me of your results.
What a snarky comment!
Like many people, I just like to understand the underlying reasons behind things and how things work. The numbers themselves don't bother me.
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