Golf Cart Registration

[rsetterlund]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

[retiredguy123]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?
Money
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Yes

[MrFlorida]

No thanks, don't need any more government regulations.

[golfing eagles]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

If the intention is to collect yet another tax, nothing is certain but death and taxes.

If the intention is to identify carts that violate some aspect of the traffic laws----sure, right after they register and identify every bicycle in TV. Who knows, some of them might actually stop or yield when a sign directs them to do so (probably not)

[villagetinker]

The flip side, this could be a way to eliminate the illegal Low Speed Vehicles (aka any golf cart that can go over 20 MPH), and restore some sanity to the Multi Modal paths. I am not sure if I am for or against this. It will have no impact on us as our golf cart will only go 19.5 to 20 MPH. Of course the follow-up will be how often this will need to be renewed. I am looking forward to the discussion.

[GpaVader]

I already pay a trail fee every year...

[Bill14564]

I don't remember hearing about a problem that this would solve.

Would this help to identify carts hitting gates? Few carts should even approach gates so they can't be the bulk of the problem. I didn't see anything in the article about a license plate requirement but maybe they are thinking about a registration sticker. If that is the case, would the camera have enough resolution to read the numbers off the sticker?

Is there some other problem occurring with golf carts that a registration might solve?

The GA area they mentioned has a $15/year registration fee. A $900,000 yearly income might be enough reason for the VCCDD to enact this.

Another question is how would this be enforced? Can it be enforced?

[MSchad]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

What you were reading didn’t state why he was proposing the registration? Where did you read this?

[vintageogauge]

Remember the lady that was bitten by a dog at the dog park and the owner took off in a golf car. This would have identified him and the lady would not have had to go through with the treatments. I don't see any problem with it.

[JMintzer]

Remember the lady that was bitten by a dog at the dog park and the owner took off in a golf car. This would have identified him and the lady would not have had to go through with the treatments. I don't see any problem with it.

Only if someone actually was able to record the registration#...

[vintageogauge]

Only if someone actually was able to record the registration#...

There were people there that identified the golf car owners initials or first names and had it been registered with a large number that would have done the deed. This would also help in locating stolen carts or identifying those who might be involved in hit and run. When we were kids back in the 50's we had to pay to register our bicycles and get a sticker for them, it wasn't a problem then and don't see a problem with these now.

[Bill14564]

There were people there that identified the golf car owners initials or first names and had it been registered with a large number that would have done the deed. This would also help in locating stolen carts or identifying those who might be involved in hit and run. When we were kids back in the 50's we had to pay to register our bicycles and get a sticker for them, it wasn't a problem then and don't see a problem with these now.

Agree, IF it comes with a large number. Maybe across the windshield blocking the driver’s view? Perhaps stenciled across the front at the owners expense? Maybe a State-issued license plate? And then, this would potentially solve that single issue in the past few years.

[billethkid]

I don't remember hearing about a problem that this would solve.

Would this help to identify carts hitting gates? Few carts should even approach gates so they can't be the bulk of the problem. I didn't see anything in the article about a license plate requirement but maybe they are thinking about a registration sticker. If that is the case, would the camera have enough resolution to read the numbers off the sticker?

Is there some other problem occurring with golf carts that a registration might solve?

The GA area they mentioned has a $15/year registration fee. A $900,000 yearly income might be enough reason for the VCCDD to enact this.

Another question is how would this be enforced? Can it be enforced?

Ah yes....a good example of enforcement (lack of it) all the "registered" vehicles on the road......

registration of golf carts for Identification/policing is a complete fantasy.......great theory zero effect in practice!!! Just like the automobiles in TV.

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[DonH57]

Even if a golf cart had a standard size license plate on back if someone was run off the MMP by a reckless golf cart driver what is the chances that person being in a scared and excited state could remember those details? The only chance the offender would be caught was if his cart was disabled as well.

All we can do is drive defensively among the clowns that percieve the golf cart as a toy.

[DAVES]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

Endless SPIN on the same subject. There is no shortage of people who do not follow the rules.
A golf cart is top heavy with a short narrow wheelbase. Brakes, most of them have brakes on only the rear wheels.

People do not like intervention. Aside the legal speed is 20 mph. A ticket for violations. Police a guy 55-85 driving a red golf cart. Pay another fee. Gasoline is like $3.00 a gallon.
Your tank holds 6 gallons. I would expect the fee to be around the price of a tank of gas.

Sadly, not a surprise to anyone, it is needed.

[Bill1701]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

There have been several incidents lately where someone in a golf cart either hit or caused damage to someone else and just drove away. If they require some sort of registration, they will need to provide a plate or something large enough to be seen from a distance.

[JMintzer]

There were people there that identified the golf car owners initials or first names and had it been registered with a large number that would have done the deed. This would also help in locating stolen carts or identifying those who might be involved in hit and run. When we were kids back in the 50's we had to pay to register our bicycles and get a sticker for them, it wasn't a problem then and don't see a problem with these now.

You couldn't see the #s on those bicycle stickers unless you had the bike in your hands...

The names people put on their carts are HUGE. Very easy to read.

Unless you're talking about putting a license plate sized # on the cart, it's useless...

[maggie1]

Remember the lady that was bitten by a dog at the dog park and the owner took off in a golf car. This would have identified him and the lady would not have had to go through with the treatments. I don't see any problem with it.

I see the logic in your response, but that would require displaying some type of license plate with large enough numbers to read. Most carts now display the license plate from their home state prior to moving here, so that creates some ill feelings by having to replace it with one that TV comes up with. A registration sticker would be difficult, if not impossible, to read on a moving cart.

In Ohio license plates are manufactured in our state prison. It's doubtful the state would consider doing the same for golf carts. I'm uncertain if any policing agency would enforce a violation of failing to display a golf cart registration plate required by our powers to be here in the bubble. There would need to be a state statute or municipal ordinance in effect to warrant a citation, but that too is probably not going to happen. You'll notice I said "probably" - nothing surprises me anymore about Florida lawmakers.

[Goldwingnut]

Unfortunately or maybe fortunately, golf cart registration is not within the realm of authorities granted to the CDDs by FS190, neither is the power to enforce such a regulation.
This even being mentioned by a CDD supervisor makes me question 1) does this individual understand or even know the responsibilities of the position they are elected to, and 2) if the do understand their responsibilities and authorities then what is their motivation for even suggesting such actions?
As previously mentioned, exactly what problem are they trying to solve?
If someone truly believed that there was an absolute need for golf cart registration, the place to start is with our state legislators in the house and senate, you’ll need your ducks in a row and a very strong argument to make any traction.
More likely this is just a political stunt, a nothing burger.

[mikeycereal]

another question is how would this be enforced?

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[Papa_lecki]

Maybe it has something to do with all the apartments being built, I heard over 900 new ones just in the Brownwood area alone. We have noticed the housing by Lowes (not the villages) crossing their carts at Pinellas, and getting on our golf cart paths and using them all. Wonder if it's the future way of controlling the path use? I can see it becoming a problem. Not that they can police it but if an accident maybe a large fine if not registered? Just a thought.

If this is really a problem, easy fix and huge revenue generator for the county.
Just put a sheriff at the intersection and write tickets, golf carts can’t cross 466a.

[Andyhope]

You got that right

[Mrfriendly]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

Uggh, this sounds more like living in NJ

[Bilyclub]

If this is really a problem, easy fix and huge revenue generator for the county.
Just put a sheriff at the intersection and write tickets, golf carts can’t cross 466a.

Pretty sure street legal carts can cross 466A at Pinellas Place. At least one of those carts coming from Beaumont is street legal. They are fine on the street, but when they hit the MMP to head South to Brownwood they are trespassing.

[larrytx219]

Registration can be as simple as a decal like those used in apartment complexes, etc all around the world. It does not require fees, frequent renewals, etc and is simple to operate. The cameras can read them on the fly and others can record them when they are illegally parked, ignoring stop signs, illegally letting their dogs out to defecate etc, etc, etc. Being able to identify the ones smashing gates would benefit us all. This would be a passive, non privacy invasive system that would help reduce the number of negative incidents regularly committed by those protected by anonymity.

[Captainpd]

Remember the lady that was bitten by a dog at the dog park and the owner took off in a golf car. This would have identified him and the lady would not have had to go through with the treatments. I don't see any problem with it.

BS. How are you going to see a window sticker on a golf cart "speeding" away??

[Chamo]

The problem is it’s another way the government keeps track of you. Wake up people enough is enough. It’s all about control. Just another way of making money. Doesn’t matter that it’s only a couple dollars it adds up in their pocket.

[Bilyclub]

Registration can be as simple as a decal like those used in apartment complexes, etc all around the world. It does not require fees, frequent renewals, etc and is simple to operate. The cameras can read them on the fly and others can record them when they are illegally parked, ignoring stop signs, illegally letting their dogs out to defecate etc, etc, etc. Being able to identify the ones smashing gates would benefit us all. This would be a passive, non privacy invasive system that would help reduce the number of negative incidents regularly committed by those protected by anonymity.

Since it's mainly cars and not golf carts hitting the gates that's a big stretch.

[lpkruege1]

There were people there that identified the golf car owners initials or first names and had it been registered with a large number that would have done the deed. This would also help in locating stolen carts or identifying those who might be involved in hit and run. When we were kids back in the 50's we had to pay to register our bicycles and get a sticker for them, it wasn't a problem then and don't see a problem with these now.

People from other states left when they voted, and voted for more taxes, and when the taxes became to expensive, they moved to Florida or Texas. Repeating past mistakes only brings the issues here. Don't vote us into poverty.

[JGibson]

Registration for e-bikes also?

[jimkerr]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

Money. That’s all. It’s time for CDD9 to get rid of that commissioner.

[Steve]

Endless SPIN on the same subject. There is no shortage of people who do not follow the rules.
A golf cart is top heavy with a short narrow wheelbase. Brakes, most of them have brakes on only the rear wheels.

People do not like intervention. Aside the legal speed is 20 mph. A ticket for violations. Police a guy 55-85 driving a red golf cart. Pay another fee. Gasoline is like $3.00 a gallon.
Your tank holds 6 gallons. I would expect the fee to be around the price of a tank of gas.

Sadly, not a surprise to anyone, it is needed.

I don't know what you're driving, but I've never seen a "top heavy" golf cart. Every golf cart I've ever seen has a plastic roof (might weight 5 pounds) but the engine/motor & batteries plus drive axle, which are the bulk of the cart's weight, are under and behind the seat. That's why you never see a golf cart tipped upside down. It might be on it's side but not completely overturned.

[tophcfa]

The problem is it’s another way the government keeps track of you. Wake up people enough is enough. It’s all about control. Just another way of making money. Doesn’t matter that it’s only a couple dollars it adds up in their pocket.

You got that right, once the can of worms is open who knows what would be next? Annual safety and emissions inspections, excise tax, GPS monitoring and taxes per mile driven? People enjoy golf carts because they are NOT cars, keep it that way.

[Richpetty42]

Money,money,money is the answer Just another way to tag another fee for something
I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

[jimdecastro]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

You answered your own question. It's for money. But, it is because people are damaging gates (yes on golf carts) and parking on the grass in Sawgrass Grove. The latter cost $35,000 in landscaping to try to correct carts parking on the grass. Registration would pay for some of that. In fact, I've been warning the people in the Southern Oaks area that registration might happen if they don't stop parking on the grass.

[JWGifford]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?
Be careful. They implemented this on Galveston Island, Texas. You pay an annual fee to the city (currently $25) for a sticker that must be placed on your cart. For some reason they wont mail it and you have to pick it up in person at a city office. The kicker is it also requires an annual cart inspection, which varies in price but is generally around $100, but more if they come to you. It also requires certain safety features depending on where the cart is operated (seat belts, reflectors, slow moving vehicle sign, etc.). Just another hassle and shadow tax.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

There were people there that identified the golf car owners initials or first names and had it been registered with a large number that would have done the deed. This would also help in locating stolen carts or identifying those who might be involved in hit and run. When we were kids back in the 50's we had to pay to register our bicycles and get a sticker for them, it wasn't a problem then and don't see a problem with these now.

I remember when we could register our bicycles too! I think it was just a $1 registration fee - they'd write our name, address, and phone number down in a ledger, and get a sticker to put just under the handlebar. Each sticker was numbered.

It was intended as a theft deterrent. Bike thieves would steal bikes that weren't registered first, because it's less work they have to do, to ensure that they don't get caught. No sticker to remove (and they didn't just peel off, you had to scrape them off, which could damage the frame, which makes it harder to sell for parts).

We got our stickers every summer at the playground, it was a service offered by the parks and rec department of the town.

I don't think a registration plate would even be necessary. Just a chip under the steering column or under the front end of the cart above the driver's side tire. That chip could even be made to open the gates - no card needed. But it would also record that -that- vehicle just went through -that- gate. So if your vehicle was stolen and driven away somewhere, the police would be able to track it better.

Again - a deterrent - not a true prevention. But still, I'd pay $10 for that every year, especially if I had a newer model golf cart that someone might actually want to steal.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Registration for e-bikes also?

Registration, insurance, and require people to have a motorcycle license to drive one. They're just as dangerous as mopeds.

[mjdollard]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

That was a post by someone in CDD 7, not someone in CDD 9.

[Jokomo]

There seems to be an increase in the number of cart-cart hit and runs. If a cart is taken in for suspicious damage registration may help the enforcement process. Rental carts registered as well as personally owned. I’d pay a modest price if it helped victims recover some of the costs of repair/medical expenses. And it would certainly be fun to look at the bad parking photos and identify the transgressors…might even improve the situation.

[Diver Man]

I think Don Wiley is correct, this is a nothing burger.

[Rodneysblue]

If the intention is to collect yet another tax, nothing is certain but death and taxes.

If the intention is to identify carts that violate some aspect of the traffic laws----sure, right after they register and identify every bicycle in TV. Who knows, some of them might actually stop or yield when a sign directs them to do so (probably not)
And let’s put stickers on pedestrians too. You know for the one who walk on the wrong side or walk at night in dark clothes, or walk 3 and 4 side by side.

[charlie1]

You couldn't see the #s on those bicycle stickers unless you had the bike in your hands...

The names people put on their carts are HUGE. Very easy to read.

Unless you're talking about putting a license plate sized # on the cart, it's useless...

TOTALLY AGREE! People need to think things through before making suggestions that just wastes everybodies time and money!

[justjim]

This has played before. Careful what you wish for.

[Joe C.]

While you're at it, let's register all the idiots here too.
Yeah, there is a small problem with some golf carts. But that isn't a reason to cause all owners to pay for registration. It would be an annoyance and inconvenience for most of us.
Maybe it's better just to leave well enough alone.

[JMintzer]

Registration can be as simple as a decal like those used in apartment complexes, etc all around the world. It does not require fees, frequent renewals, etc and is simple to operate. The cameras can read them on the fly and others can record them when they are illegally parked, ignoring stop signs, illegally letting their dogs out to defecate etc, etc, etc. Being able to identify the ones smashing gates would benefit us all. This would be a passive, non privacy invasive system that would help reduce the number of negative incidents regularly committed by those protected by anonymity.

It's not the golf carts that are "smashing" the gates... It cars. And there are cameras at the cates that do catch the cars that smash the gates...

And if you think the police are going to act because someone said "I saw someone in a golf cart with sticker # 1234 letting his dog poop", now go do something is gonna' help, well.... Good luck with that...

[Bob.Betty]

The flip side, this could be a way to eliminate the illegal Low Speed Vehicles (aka any golf cart that can go over 20 MPH), and restore some sanity to the Multi Modal paths. I am not sure if I am for or against this. It will have no impact on us as our golf cart will only go 19.5 to 20 MPH. Of course the follow-up will be how often this will need to be renewed. I am looking forward to the discussion.

the other night we were following a golf cart where the driver could hardly keep it on the path, the passenger was hanging his head out the side puking. It was a miracle that they didn't crash. Maybe if there was a way to call it in to someone it could have been dealt with.
Golf carts going up to 30 mph are a hazard, if you had to register your cart they could check for governors that have been tampered with. It's shear madness

[tophcfa]

the other night we were following a golf cart where the driver could hardly keep it on the path, the passenger was hanging his head out the side puking.

That’s why they run the irrigation sprinklers on the paths after dark : )

[JMintzer]

That’s why they run the irrigation sprinklers on the paths after dark : )

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[Bealman]

FL legislators have bill to make people have a driver's license to drive a golf cart. No license, no drive golf cart. Hmmmm....that will be interesting for those that can't pass the test.

[Pairadocs]

I already pay a trail fee every year...

Of course, we pay ours too, but I think this is an additional TAX for all of us, those who do pay trail fees and those who do not. Most politicians love to find new UN-taxed "things", that we can count on.

[Bill14564]

FL legislators have bill to make people have a driver's license to drive a golf cart. No license, no drive golf cart. Hmmmm....that will be interesting for those that can't pass the test.

Good reason to hope the bill does not pass. This place is nice for those who should no longer drive an automobile but still want to get around. It will either force older drivers to keep a license longer than they should or take away the only means of transportation that some currently have.

[DDToto41]

I already pay a trail fee every year...

You don't have to pay the trail fee to drive a golf cart on the multimodal trails. The trail fee is so you don't have to pay of $5 to drive your cart on the golf courses.

[Lynnesail]

Of course, we pay ours too, but I think this is an additional TAX for all of us, those who do pay trail fees and those who do not. Most politicians love to find new UN-taxed "things", that we can count on.

The trail fee is for golf trails, not mmp..

[AZ SLIM]

I was reading today that a commissioner in CCD9 is suggesting that we register all golf carts in the Villages. My question is, what is the purpose? What will be gained by requiring everyone to pay an annual fee to register their golf cart? Is this just another way for residents to have to pay another fee?

NO!

[golfing eagles]

FL legislators have bill to make people have a driver's license to drive a golf cart. No license, no drive golf cart. Hmmmm....that will be interesting for those that can't pass the test.

And the 10 year old grandchildren:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Two Bills]

the other night we were following a golf cart where the driver could hardly keep it on the path, the passenger was hanging his head out the side puking. It was a miracle that they didn't crash. Maybe if there was a way to call it in to someone it could have been dealt with.
Golf carts going up to 30 mph are a hazard, if you had to register your cart they could check for governors that have been tampered with. It's shear madness

Sorry about that.
The chap chucking up was the evenings designated driver, and was not supposed to drink more than 10 pints.
I had had quite a few more myself, but I had to take over the driving, when the cart started to fill up with puke.
We were quite safe, as we do that run most nights, sometimes in worse states, but have never had an accident.
Been a bit lucky sometimes passing slower carts that often get in our way
Our cart is unregulated, but we never go over 30mph.
Cheers. :beer3:

[DonH57]

Sorry about that.
The chap chucking up was the evenings designated driver, and was not supposed to drink more than 10 pints.
I had had quite a few more myself, but I had to take over the driving, when the cart started to fill up with puke.
We were quite safe, as we do that run most nights, sometimes in worse states, but have never had an accident.
Been a bit lucky sometimes passing slower carts that often get in our way
Our cart is unregulated, but we never go over 30mph.
Cheers. :beer3:

There's only so much room for us at that time of night!:shocked:

[Normal]

Golf cart freedom removal? Seriously, there are other issues most don’t care for that out weigh a golf cart tax etc. Short term rentals, non resident uses of facilities, and contractor violations all trump a silly new tax on golf carts.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I already pay a trail fee every year...

I don't pay a trail fee, because I don't golf. But I still get to use my golf cart on any non-course golf cart path or multi-modal path. In fact, there are ways for non-Villagers to do the exact same thing. And they don't even pay amenity fees. They also use whatever public roads they're legally allowed to use, AND some of them use roads they're not legally allowed to use.

So I'm fine with some sort of identification sticker. So if you do cause problems using your golf cart, you can be tracked down. If you don't cause problems with your golf cart, no one will care.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Pretty sure street legal carts can cross 466A at Pinellas Place. At least one of those carts coming from Beaumont is street legal. They are fine on the street, but when they hit the MMP to head South to Brownwood they are trespassing.

No, they may not. They can't cross 466, or 466a, or 44, or Rolling Hills. There is ONE spot where golf carts may cross 441 in the north, but it's not accessible to Villages residents. It's for Stonegate and you have to go through their property, which is a genuine gated community, in order to get to the road the crosses.

Notice I say may/may not. You CAN cross any road you'd like. But you would be violating the law if you cross those roads with your golf cart, street legal or otherwise.

[dewilson58]

No, they may not. They can't cross 466, or 466a, or 44, or Rolling Hills.

The volume of carts crossing 466a to get to Lowe's, Publix, etc., is crazy.

[Javin53]

You worry about golf carts.....how about getting cars inspected in Fl.
I see cars on the road that should be in junk yds.....no mirrors, smoking, bald tires, . ........
You want to save lives....worry about cars not golf carts.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The volume of carts crossing 466a to get to Lowe's, Publix, etc., is crazy.

You could get in touch with the police department of whichever county covers that location, and request more enforcement officers to do sweeps of the intersections. If they have even a single officer available per shift for "roaming" in that area, they could park in the parking lot of the "destination" (such as Lowes and Publix) and pull over every single golf cart they observe entering from the county road.

[Bill14564]

No, they may not. They can't cross 466, or 466a, or 44, or Rolling Hills. There is ONE spot where golf carts may cross 441 in the north, but it's not accessible to Villages residents. It's for Stonegate and you have to go through their property, which is a genuine gated community, in order to get to the road the crosses.

Notice I say may/may not. You CAN cross any road you'd like. But you would be violating the law if you cross those roads with your golf cart, street legal or otherwise.

Street legal carts can legally cross any of those roads with no violation of the law (look it up, I did). The non-street legal carts cannot legally cross except in the one location you noted.

[dewilson58]

You worry about golf carts.....how about getting cars inspected in Fl.
I see cars on the road that should be in junk yds.....no mirrors, smoking, bald tires, . ........
You want to save lives....worry about cars not golf carts.

Historically, state car inspections have not done well.............mostly a money maker for car shops.

[Javin53]

But it is got to be better then no inspection at all.

Live in NY and yes yearly inspections are a pain, but at least they check all lights and brakes., cracked windshields...and such.

Cars that can be seen and can stop at least may save a life or two

[tophcfa]

Historically, state car inspections have not done well.............mostly a money maker for car shops.

But it is got to be better then no inspection at all.

Live in NY and yes yearly inspections are a pain, but at least they check all lights and brakes., cracked windshields...and such.

Cars that can be seen and can stop at least may save a life or two

Screw the inspections, emission systems have so many components the check engine light is frequently on and rarely does the reason the sensor was tripped affect the way the vehicle runs or its safety on the road. Our BMW has had the check engine light on for several years and the code indicates it's nothing that effects the performance or safety of the car. If an inspection was required we would have to spend over 2 grand on a catalytic converter to pass and the car would not be any safer or run any better. I just had to spend about $400 to replace a charcoal canister and vent control solenoid on my truck to pass inspection in MA and the truck is no safer and actually seems to run a little worse. We are very happy to have our Beamer registered in Florida and not Massachusetts.

[NoMoSno]

No, they may not. They can't cross 466, or 466a, or 44, or Rolling Hills. There is ONE spot where golf carts may cross 441 in the north, but it's not accessible to Villages residents. It's for Stonegate and you have to go through their property, which is a genuine gated community, in order to get to the road the crosses.

Notice I say may/may not. You CAN cross any road you'd like. But you would be violating the law if you cross those roads with your golf cart, street legal or otherwise.
Do you live on the Historic side?
A street-legal cart can CROSS 441 at ANY intersection along that 45mph stretch legally. The crossing at Spruce Creek South was county approved for non-street legal carts. You don't travel through the community of Stonecrest to access the crossing. Villagers can travel by regular cart all the way to The Orthopedic Institute, or even cross 441 at Spruce Creek to golf.

[Bilyclub]

No, they may not. They can't cross 466, or 466a, or 44, or Rolling Hills. There is ONE spot where golf carts may cross 441 in the north, but it's not accessible to Villages residents. It's for Stonegate and you have to go through their property, which is a genuine gated community, in order to get to the road the crosses.

Notice I say may/may not. You CAN cross any road you'd like. But you would be violating the law if you cross those roads with your golf cart, street legal or otherwise.

You are wrong, again. I did state street legal carts. They can operate on roads with a speed limit up to 35 MPH and cross 466A along with the other roads.

[yankygrl]

Street legal carts can legally cross any of those roads with no violation of the law (look it up, I did). The non-street legal carts cannot legally cross except in the one location you noted.
A GOLF CART CAN NOT TRAVEL/ CROSS OVER ANY ROAD WITH A SPEED LIMIT OVER 30 mph. That is why TV has cart paths on roads with 35 mpg limit. This includes crossing at a stop light.
I checked with Sumter Co. Sheriff and Lady Lake Police.

[NoMoSno]

A GOLF CART CAN NOT TRAVEL/ CROSS OVER ANY ROAD WITH A SPEED LIMIT OVER 30 mph. That is why TV has cart paths on roads with 35 mpg limit. This includes crossing at a stop light.
I checked with Sumter Co. Sheriff and Lady Lake Police.
We are referring to street-legal carts, which can legally cross a road with a 45mph speed limit.
Check again with Sumter Co. sheriff.

The exception is the 441 crossing by Spruce Creek South where any cart can cross.
Check with the Marion Co. sheriff for that one.

[dewilson58]

A GOLF CART CAN NOT TRAVEL/ CROSS OVER ANY ROAD WITH A SPEED LIMIT OVER 30 mph.

Wrong

[Bill14564]

A GOLF CART CAN NOT TRAVEL/ CROSS OVER ANY ROAD WITH A SPEED LIMIT OVER 30 mph. That is why TV has cart paths on roads with 35 mpg limit. This includes crossing at a stop light.
I checked with Sumter Co. Sheriff and Lady Lake Police.

Yep, that is consistent with what I wrote.

[samquiros]

Golf carts and utility vehicles may be operated only on state roads that have a posted speed limit of 30 miles per hour or less.

Golf carts and utility vehicles may cross a portion of the State Highway System which has a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour or less only at an intersection with an official traffic control device.

(quoting from state law)

[dewilson58]

Golf carts and utility vehicles may cross a portion of the State Highway System which has a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour or less only at an intersection with an official traffic control device.

(quoting from state law)

Quote:
"Golf carts are defined in section 320.01(22), Florida Statutes, as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.” Golf carts may be operated on roadways that are designated for golf carts with a posted speed limit of 30 mph or less. Golf carts may also cross a portion of a county road which intersects a roadway that is approved for golf carts, or that intersects a golf course or mobile home park. In both examples the roadway should have signs posted that golf carts share the roadway. The operation of golf carts on roads must comply with any more restrictive ordinances enacted by local government and should be verified prior to operating these vehicles."

Signs are posted, no carts beyond this point.

[Bill14564]

Golf carts and utility vehicles may be operated only on state roads that have a posted speed limit of 30 miles per hour or less.

Golf carts and utility vehicles may cross a portion of the State Highway System which has a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour or less only at an intersection with an official traffic control device.

(quoting from state law)

You are quoting from section 316.2126 which authorizes municipalities to utilize golf carts on state or county roads. What is posted is true only if you are operating the golf cart as part of your job with the municipality.

[Normal]

Bridges may be the only solution. I know the two that cross over 44 are very convenient for us. It makes it super nice. The Villages just placed a second bridge over the turnpike and that should make things pretty balanced in the South. The northern Villages got ripped off on these.

[DonH57]

Bridges may be the only solution. I know the two that cross over 44 are very convenient for us. It makes it super nice. The Villages just placed a second bridge over the turnpike and that should make things pretty balanced in the South. The northern Villages got ripped off on these.

I'll be back to see the Southern end turnpike bridge completed. Anxious to see if it shaves a few minutes to Southern Oaks than going BV route.

[MSchad]

Bridges may be the only solution. I know the two that cross over 44 are very convenient for us. It makes it super nice. The Villages just placed a second bridge over the turnpike and that should make things pretty balanced in the South. The northern Villages got ripped off on these.

I would like to hear your reasoning on this?!

[Normal]

I would like to hear your reasoning on this?!
Sure, I just see and feel the Southern end of the Villages seems to be better situated for open logistics for golf carts. They have two bridges crossing the turnpike, where the Northern end has zero crossing 42.

[rustyp]

Sure, I just see and feel the Southern end of the Villages seems to be better situated for open logistics for golf carts. They have two bridges crossing the turnpike, where the Northern end has zero crossing 42.

To say Rt 44 (correct?) is the northern end of TV is like saying Mexico is north of Brazil - true statement. But those of us that live in the continental USA part of The Villages have tunnels instead of bridges.

[Bill14564]

Sure, I just see and feel the Southern end of the Villages seems to be better situated for open logistics for golf carts. They have two bridges crossing the turnpike, where the Northern end has zero crossing 42.

Are there Villages north of 42? (Seriously, I can't find them)

As you travel from 42 down to 44 the infrastructure for golf carts increases. Things seem to change south of 44. From there, golf cart infrastructure seems to give way to walking/biking infrastructure. Things evolve.

[dhdallas]

I won't pay for any cart registration. There will be no one to enforce it so why bother. Its like the speed limit rule for the MMP. There is no enforcement so cart drivers can go as fast as they want.