Stereotyping & trolling

[BrianL99]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

[retiredguy123]

Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

[Garywt]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

[JMintzer]

But look how CNN reports different incidents...

Apparently, one is a racial crime, the other is not...

The White homeowner accused of shooting a Black teen who rang his doorbell turns himself in and is released on bail | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/us/kansas-city-ralph-yarl-shooting-tuesday/index.html)

Charlotte, North Carolina: Suspect who allegedly shot 6-year-old neighbor and her parents apprehended in Florida | CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/20/us/neighbor-child-shooting-basketball-singletary/index.html)

[tophcfa]

Our son in law works for one of the hoity toity Ivy league colleges up north and can’t refer to anyone by anything that implies gender, so he refers to his employees as team members. He once referred to his group of employees as y’all, figuring that is gender neutral and wouldn’t offend anyone. An employee filed a complaint with Human Resources because y’all is considered a southern term and therefore supports slavery? WTF, it’s getting to the point where people are afraid to speak! It must really suck trying to be a comedian these days, all you can do is make fun of yourself.

[billethkid]

more dog allowing the tail to wag the body BS!

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[Number 10 GI]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

I was a Master Sergeant in the Army. The Navy has a Master Chief Petty Officer; Air Force has a Senior Master Sergeant and a Chief Master Sergeant; the Marine Corps has a Master Sergeant and a Master Gunnery Sergeant.

[Villagesgal]

I believe the change to primary bedroom has more to do with the fact that more single women are buying homes and master refers to a man who is in charge, in this case of his family and that was his room, in his house. The term master was used in the military well before slavery.

[Blackbird45]

I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

[mdmurrell]

This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

[Worldseries27]

this is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the united states populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the pc language norms? At this age, i really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that i speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage pc by bowing down to it. The cancel culture is destroying our traditional american values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "y"ll have a great american day".
if you attack the corporate bottom line, you get their attention.

[midiwiz]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.


The direction allthis is headed is a result of the long standing American necessity of nice what was called politically correct or as I call it lying. As i compare my old dictionary (I'm glad I kept it) to what is online today in webster etc.... they have changed definitions in many things to (IMHO) back up the rhetoric that is being thrown at us.

I think the cancel culture, gender pronouns, and such are nothing more than a generation that can't cope with life. Spoiled and entitled, their parents are the ones to blame for all this nonsense. History is history, embrace it as that history is what made this country what it is today, erase it and you are telling me you have zero respect for everything within our borders no matter what it is.

While all this can easily be stopped, Americans as a whole say a lot but don't back it up - note the last 2 elections..... embarassing

[Bridget Staunton]

Garywt: reading your post I thought my hubby was talking to me & I to him. You are right on respect others, history is history cannot erase it be it right or wrong. Must stay on the books & teach our children. I was born in a country where slavery rampart, famine imposed by another country lost millions of people including my own relatives. But we must move on because it’s history and hopefully learned from it. “What goes around comes around” or “the law of cause & affect”

[TomSwango]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

"Only rhe guy who is not rowing has time to rock the boat" Jean Paul Sartre

[perrjojo]

I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

[RICH1]

I used to like the nicknames that we had for ethnic groups… made things easier on the job site …I really miss those days.. work ethics & ethnics were the backbone of this country … now we have neither

[joelfmi]

The media's bias problem affects more than just CNN, and many Americans have caught on. According to a new Gallup study, 86 percent of Americans believe media outlets are politically biased, with 56 percent of Americans saying their own go-to news source has "a great deal" or "a fair amount" of bias. Maybe this helps explain why a record 33 percent of Americans in 2020 put no trust at all in media. There's two ways for cable news to drive a politician out of office. One is to fairly report on a corrupt politician's egregious abuses of the responsibility voters have placed in them. For example, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo could have asked his brother, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, why he was forcing elderly people with COVID into nursing homes which was agreaves. mass media to report the news fairly and accurately -- up from 28 percent only the year before.

[GizmoWhiskers]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.
Lol this thread is doomed from "hello." - Oh wait, maybe it's just infraction clickbait for some on TOTV.

[Bay Kid]

Heck, look at the Washington Redskins. Who did that offend, not any Indians that I know. I now call them the Washington Pacifiers.

[airstreamingypsy]

The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

Hahahahahaha, "Bud Lite" anyone?

[airstreamingypsy]

I was amazed when the judge, in the Rittenhouse case, wouldn't let the prosecutors use the word "victim" referring to the people he shot.

[airstreamingypsy]

Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

1st reply, that didn't take long.

[Whitley]

I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Bagels have a religion? Learned my fact for the day. Did you hear the joke about the man who was speaking to the priest about holding a funeral service for his dog?

[mikeycereal]

Heck, look at the Washington Redskins. Who did that offend, not any Indians that I know. I now call them the Washington Pacifiers.

Sad. I always thought that was a great classic logo. The new W is just so safe and sterile.

Redskin or snowbird aren't offensive unless you say it to someone with $#@! in front of it. :duck:

[MAXFLY]

Some people don't think it be like it is, but it do.

[Joe C.]

It's up to us (the silent majority) to stand up and fight back. I have no problem saying what I want. If I offend someone and they tell me, then I apologize ....I don't do it intentionally, but if someone gets offended, I tell them that they need to get some thick skin.
I refuse to give in to the PC and WOKE crowd. I say what I want to say and speak my mind. As for the gender/pronoun issue, it doesn't exist for me. Male is male and female is female. If you are one and want to be the other then just don't be in my face about it.
The current PC culture no longer wants us to accept the LBGTQrstuv people, the want us to worship them.
I'm proud to be anti-PC and will be that way till my last breath.

[Vermilion Villager]

Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

They mostly were juveniles. If you disagree please tell us how you would better "describe" them? :bowdown:

[JMintzer]

I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Wait, there are other kind's of bagels? :p

[JMintzer]

I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

Well, Bless your heart... :icon_wink:

[Bill14564]

It's up to us (the silent majority) to stand up and fight back. I have no problem saying what I want. If I offend someone and they tell me, then I apologize ....I don't do it intentionally, but if someone gets offended, I tell them that they need to get some thick skin.
I refuse to give in to the PC and WOKE crowd. I say what I want to say and speak my mind. As for the gender/pronoun issue, it doesn't exist for me. Male is male and female is female. If you are one and want to be the other then just don't be in my face about it.
The current PC culture no longer wants us to accept the LBGTQrstuv people, the want us to worship them.
I'm proud to be anti-PC and will be that way till my last breath.

The rest of your post contradicts that statement.

[Vermilion Villager]

This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".
Wa-Alaikum-Salaam:beer3:

[Tobys Dad]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

You nailed it, bravo!

[Kelevision]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.
Both my neighbors are snowbirds and introduced themselves as snowbirds, which is how I know.

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

[Pennyt]

That's all comedians should do...make fun of themselves. I never thought jokes made at the expense of others was humorous. I remember a clown at Sea World who would walk behind people and make fun of the way they looked, the way they walked, etc. Some in the audience laughed but it made me very uncomfortable and I thought it was cruel.

[dewilson58]

So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

You are still the Master of Your Domain.

[MisterPratt]

Could it be we are evolving as a nation? Think of the words that were common place years ago. Colored became black to Afro-American. Miss, Mrs. became Ms. White has become Euro-American. More diversity in advertising, etc. the list goes on and on. There was a time blacks and females weren’t permitted to vote. One can only guess what was being talked about when these changes were taking place. As Bob Dylan wrote, “these times they are a changin.” Each generation goes through it. As example, your parents yelled to you to turn that music down, how can you listen to that garbage. Now, the parents today complain about their kids music.

[Geodyssey]

Two years ago, a Target store in Minneapolis was destroyed and looted by dozens of people. The only description of the looters that I heard the media use was that they were "juveniles". I guess they were afraid to be more descriptive.

Everyone knows who it was. Same thing happening daily in many large US cities.

Demographics is destiny.

[nn0wheremann]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.
To be correct in all you say nowadays, you must adhere to a vow of silence, or limit discourse to “Hey, hozabout dem Cubs”.

[JMintzer]

You are still the Master of Your Domain.

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[nn0wheremann]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.
I guess Dutch Masters cigars would be made taboo now, if all things tobacco were not already taboo.
Still, the Florida legislature worries me, outlawing “Drag Shows” if children might see them. A friend of mine used to travel the country as a musician, playing his bagpipes at festivals, parades, policemen’s funerals, etc, if full kilt and highland regalia . Now in Florida he would be arrested and those sponsoring the events he performed at would be pilloried, fined, and who knows what else.

[IndianaJones]

Your "troll" question was actually this:

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

To me, having been in Florida since 1964, "snowbird" was a common term applied to anyone who came south for the winter to escape the cold. It was not derogatory or ill-meaning. However, "yankee" and "northerner" were terms almost always used while driving - and they meant "someone from up north who didn't drive the way we drive" (right or wrong). I don't think snowbird is a bad term, just a descriptive term. Maybe change it to "winter-challenged folk"?

[dewilson58]

Your

What is coming.......the state of Indiana will have to change its name.

You might have to change your name as well.

:oops:

[rsibole]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

I think nursery rhymes need to be taught at every level of education and job training . . . . . like the one about sticks & stones. Get over your precious selves Snowflakes, it's only words and if you don't like what you hear just hum a song to yourself.

[Stu from NYC]

I know people find some words offensive. To me words are just that words, it more how they are used. But as society changes so does everything else, clothes, hair style and words. In the future do not be surprised a Jewish bagel will become an ethnic donut.

Words can have more than one meaning.

Cannot understand how anyone can be a comedian these days, people get offended by almost anything.

Sad we cannot even poke fun at ourselves

[Stu from NYC]

What is coming.......the state of Indiana will have to change its name.

You might have to change your name as well.

:oops:

Still cannot believe the Cleveland Indians actually changed their name.

[DonRaleigh]

It's up to us (the silent majority) ………..I say what I want to say and speak my mind...

LOL. Apparently “silent” doesn’t mean what I thought it did.

[Two Bills]

Was asked at a recent hospital visit if I had any preferred pronoun when I was to be called forward for my appointment, or when Consultant speaks to me.
I said " My name will work."
Poor secretary said she had to ask, so as not to offend anyone.
Can you imaging having to ask those sort of questions all day?
Worlds going mad.

[Byte1]

If you have a problem with me using the terms"she, her, ma'am, miss, etc." then that is your problem. The same with "he, him, sir, mister, etc." I would think it would be more derogatory to use "it" as a replacement for those terms. I do not believe in "non-binary" as a gender, so it will be up to you to correct me if I address you wrong. If I can't tell the difference in your gender, then that's also on you. If you are gay or whatever you wish to be categorized as and wish my respect, then what's up with the idiotic "Gay Pride" parades where folks parade around dressed silly and act silly? In my opinion, there should be a charge of "Fraud" whenever someone fills out an official document using the wrong gender (one other than they were born with). This is my opinion, and like something else, everyone has one. When I was a child, the "N" word was forbidden and a threat of being punished if I used the word. However, "negro" was proper and acceptable. Then we were told that we should use the word "black." Now, it's African-American. An Indian is a person from India and a native of America is an Indigenous. A coworker once described himself as an African-American and I responded that I was an Euro-American. He frowned at me as if I was making fun of him. Honestly, he was probably right, because it seemed it was perfectly acceptable for him to call me a "cracker." Although, I was not and still am not insulted by the term "cracker." I've also noticed that ALL newer TV programs and movies MUST have a mixed black and white family, or else must be gay. And even though a straight family is presumed to sleep together intimately, gays must be portrayed making out to prove that they are "gay." Call me a prude, but I do not feel that in order to make an entertaining program, there must be sex in it. The plot must be pretty weak if the show must have sex to keep the audiences attention. Once again, my opinion. Thank goodness I am old enough to get away with disregarding a lot of today's 'Progress."

[JRcorvette]

Everyone knows who causes most of the crime in America. No need to mention it.

[jimjamuser]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.
I think that calling the largest bedroom the PRIMARY BEDROOM is fine with me. It seems to be a better description than MASTER bedroom. Plus it avoids any unpleasantness associated with the term MASTER. I think that it is the least the Caucasians can do to avoid reminding BLACKS of that unfortunate era in US HISTORY that I as a Caucasian can't be proud of. It may SEEM like a little thing to a Caucasian, but it might be an unnecessary reminder to a black person that they were once a 2nd class citizen.
..........In today's touchy environment, many things are driving various groups apart. I would like to do my best to REPAIR any frictional situations. So, I am fine with the change to the PRIMARY bedroom.

[SallyB]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.
Look up why they want us to stop saying Grandfather, because of the term "Grandfathered"

[manaboutown]

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[manaboutown]

I was amazed when the judge, in the Rittenhouse case, wouldn't let the prosecutors use the word "victim" referring to the people he shot.

That is because Kyle was the victim defending himself and others. The men he shot were murderous thugs.

[SallyB]

I was amazed when the judge, in the Rittenhouse case, wouldn't let the prosecutors use the word "victim" referring to the people he shot.
Thats because they weren't victims.

[jimjamuser]

Our son in law works for one of the hoity toity Ivy league colleges up north and can’t refer to anyone by anything that implies gender, so he refers to his employees as team members. He once referred to his group of employees as y’all, figuring that is gender neutral and wouldn’t offend anyone. An employee filed a complaint with Human Resources because y’all is considered a southern term and therefore supports slavery? WTF, it’s getting to the point where people are afraid to speak! It must really suck trying to be a comedian these days, all you can do is make fun of yourself.
I feel that it would be going TOO far to ban Y'all.

[SallyB]

I guess Dutch Masters cigars would be made taboo now, if all things tobacco were not already taboo.
Still, the Florida legislature worries me, outlawing “Drag Shows” if children might see them. A friend of mine used to travel the country as a musician, playing his bagpipes at festivals, parades, policemen’s funerals, etc, if full kilt and highland regalia . Now in Florida he would be arrested and those sponsoring the events he performed at would be pilloried, fined, and who knows what else.
can you say, you are overreaching?

[SallyB]

Words can have more than one meaning.

Cannot understand how anyone can be a comedian these days, people get offended by almost anything.

Sad we cannot even poke fun at ourselves
Jokes are only funny when they are not directed at you or your race.
Ask Will Smith :)

[jimjamuser]

This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".
The "cancel culture" is NOT destroying my traditional American values because I don't have a CLUE as to WHO or WHAT is meant by "cancel culture". Does that involve BOOK banning .........that might be one way to cancel a culture?

[Joe C.]

While I do speak my mind, I don't INTENTIONALLY try to offend people. When I apologize, I'm not changing my mind on what I said.

[DennisDee]

Regarding my preferred pronouns...I often thought "emperor" would great.

[jimjamuser]

The direction allthis is headed is a result of the long standing American necessity of nice what was called politically correct or as I call it lying. As i compare my old dictionary (I'm glad I kept it) to what is online today in webster etc.... they have changed definitions in many things to (IMHO) back up the rhetoric that is being thrown at us.

I think the cancel culture, gender pronouns, and such are nothing more than a generation that can't cope with life. Spoiled and entitled, their parents are the ones to blame for all this nonsense. History is history, embrace it as that history is what made this country what it is today, erase it and you are telling me you have zero respect for everything within our borders no matter what it is.

While all this can easily be stopped, Americans as a whole say a lot but don't back it up - note the last 2 elections..... embarassing
People may call today's generation spoiled and entitled, but the reality is that I feel sorry for today's generation. Something like 50% of them has serious mental problems. Some 20% have contemplated suicide. They are NOT running around as happy campers. When they go to school they might get shot at school or on a bus to school or walking to school. There are drug dealers to avoid. We never had those kinds of problems.
.......I SERIOUSLY feel SORROW for today's GEN Z. And I think that our older generation should read about and imagine themselves in a GEN Z body..........they have BIG problems.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

This is a great topic. Here we live in the most successful retirement community and fastest growing county in the United States populated by some of the most successful people in the country; are we really going to knuckle under to the insane norms of the PC language norms? At this age, I really could care less if someone is offended by my language provided that I speak with familiar terms that identify people that are not intended to be disrespectful. I won't encourage PC by bowing down to it. The Cancel Culture is destroying our traditional American values and being assertive in your speech is one way to fight back. Hope "Y"ll have a great American Day".

What defines us as the most successful retirement community? I’ve never heard that accolade given. I’ve heard largest retirement community and largest developed metro area. Who named us successful and why?

Sounds like you are proposing a clan of people in The Villages who continue making minorities uncomfortable for the foreseeable future. I feel like we have been there and done that many times. Heck we even fought a war for that reason. Sometimes history teaches us nothing though and we repeat our mistakes.

[Two Bills]

People may call today's generation spoiled and entitled, but the reality is that I feel sorry for today's generation. Something like 50% of them has serious mental problems. Some 20% have contemplated suicide. They are NOT running around as happy campers. When they go to school they might get shot at school or on a bus to school or walking to school. There are drug dealers to avoid. We never had those kinds of problems.
.......I SERIOUSLY feel SORROW for today's GEN Z. And I think that our older generation should read about and imagine themselves in a GEN Z body..........they have BIG problems.

Wife and I grew up in London during WW2 with bombs and rockets falling, food shortages, rationing, and freezing cold because there was nothing left to burn.
My heart bleeds for GEN Z, and all their perceived problems with what gender they are, and where they can buy their drugs.
You play the hand you are dealt, or fold.
Get real.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Hahahahahaha, "Bud Lite" anyone?

Ironic. To label the team with a derogatory adjective and persist using that name, implies openly bullying anyone who doesn’t agree with those views.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I used to like the nicknames that we had for ethnic groups… made things easier on the job site …I really miss those days.. work ethics & ethnics were the backbone of this country … now we have neither

Ah the old days when we all could be open racists. Sickening.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

There are a lot of changes and some people accept them and others do not. Just look at the current Bud Light situation as many refuse to drink or carry Bud products because they used a transgender person in their advertising. I have an issue with so many wanting to change or erase history because things don’t fit into todays standards, this can’t be done but people try. History is history, right or wrong it happened and you can’t change it. A current pet peeve is calling a master bedroom a primary bedroom because master reminds people of slaves. Yes slavery was wrong but it has nothing to do with a master bedroom. What is next, changing the name of The Masters golf tournament, is there no end? My wife and I have always been in acceptance of all people as we are all part of the human race and that is what counts.

Amen! We need more opinions like this to squelch out the over abundant racist views on Talk of The Villages.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

Well that would be confusing to your friends.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

more dog allowing the tail to wag the body BS!

______________________________________________

:censored:

How do you stand all that body wagging? Must be hard for you. :cryin2:

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

The direction allthis is headed is a result of the long standing American necessity of nice what was called politically correct or as I call it lying. As i compare my old dictionary (I'm glad I kept it) to what is online today in webster etc.... they have changed definitions in many things to (IMHO) back up the rhetoric that is being thrown at us.

I think the cancel culture, gender pronouns, and such are nothing more than a generation that can't cope with life. Spoiled and entitled, their parents are the ones to blame for all this nonsense. History is history, embrace it as that history is what made this country what it is today, erase it and you are telling me you have zero respect for everything within our borders no matter what it is.

While all this can easily be stopped, Americans as a whole say a lot but don't back it up - note the last 2 elections..... embarassing

Was that a humble opinion? Sounded the opposite of humble. Spoiled, entitled. I didn’t hear humble words. Regardless, It also sounds like you do not stand by your own words and want to erase the current history. The old history is written. You may not like the current history, and may want to stick to your degrading dictionary, but gender pronouns and cancel culture are history: todays history. Ignorance is blind.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

It's up to us (the silent majority) to stand up and fight back. I have no problem saying what I want. If I offend someone and they tell me, then I apologize ....I don't do it intentionally, but if someone gets offended, I tell them that they need to get some thick skin.
I refuse to give in to the PC and WOKE crowd. I say what I want to say and speak my mind. As for the gender/pronoun issue, it doesn't exist for me. Male is male and female is female. If you are one and want to be the other then just don't be in my face about it.
The current PC culture no longer wants us to accept the LBGTQrstuv people, the want us to worship them.
I'm proud to be anti-PC and will be that way till my last breath.

You mean that other people would like the focus to go away from white privileged males to anyone else? God forbid!

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Was asked at a recent hospital visit if I had any preferred pronoun when I was to be called forward for my appointment, or when Consultant speaks to me.
I said " My name will work."
Poor secretary said she had to ask, so as not to offend anyone.
Can you imaging having to ask those sort of questions all day?
Worlds going mad.

It’s not clear why you think asking that question is hard. It’s no harder than asking what’s your birthdate or address. It’s only hard if it’s met with difficult remarks from judgemental people.

[HORNET]

This is what’s wrong with the world! If it bothers you, fine, but I don’t want to hear it and don’t care. Do what you want and don’t force it down my throat.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Both my neighbors are snowbirds and introduced themselves as snowbirds, which is how I know.

They probably haven’t read the talk of the villages posts. Otherwise, they would know that a bunch of full-timers openly judge and dislike them, forgetting that snowbirds pay their taxes and amenity fees.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Your "troll" question was actually this:

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

To me, having been in Florida since 1964, "snowbird" was a common term applied to anyone who came south for the winter to escape the cold. It was not derogatory or ill-meaning. However, "yankee" and "northerner" were terms almost always used while driving - and they meant "someone from up north who didn't drive the way we drive" (right or wrong). I don't think snowbird is a bad term, just a descriptive term. Maybe change it to "winter-challenged folk"?

I’ve been visiting, renting or living here for 19 years. It wasn’t derogatory until forums like this gave bullies an anonymous voice.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

So I am a landlord, have rentals in Oregon, and in Florida now.
And I have been told that I am no Lord of no lands. And that the name landlord should be changed.
Just a bunch of absolute nonsense everybody trying to reinvent the wheel to go round and round again

Isn’t the wheel supposed to go round and round?

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

That's all comedians should do...make fun of themselves. I never thought jokes made at the expense of others was humorous. I remember a clown at Sea World who would walk behind people and make fun of the way they looked, the way they walked, etc. Some in the audience laughed but it made me very uncomfortable and I thought it was cruel.

That’s because you are a nice person with a conscious.

[SHIBUMI]

So these 2 polish guys go deer hunting. They walk for about an hour and then spot a very very large buck with a large rack of horns. They both fire and put him down. They start dragging him by the feet back to their pick-up truck. After about 1/2 hour, one stops and says, the rack of horns keeps catching on the bushes and trees. It would be a lot easier to drag the deer by the antlers so it wouldn't get stuck along the way. The other hunter agrees. After 2 more hours of dragging the buck, they stop to rest. One hunter says, you know, I think we are getting farther away from the truck.

One man asks another, why are so many Italians named Tony? The man answers, the boats of immigrants went past the Statue of Liberty, docked and let all the passengers off. They were seperated into groups going to different locations. For New York locations, the heads of the men were stamped in an abbreviated form, TO NY once they arrived they were all registered that way.

We have all been raised in a racist world. If you get to adulthood and don't realize that and still talk ill of people, it's because your are ignorant. And we will talk ill of you, smarten up.




QUOTE=BrianL99;2210567]OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.[/QUOTE]

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I think nursery rhymes need to be taught at every level of education and job training . . . . . like the one about sticks & stones. Get over your precious selves Snowflakes, it's only words and if you don't like what you hear just hum a song to yourself.

Sure, I’ll get over my precious self if you post your real name, phone number, and photo. Hiding behind a cloak of anonymity is easy but also cowardly. I’m so over watching all the anonymous bullies on this forum doze people into the ground. Be brave and bold if you are going to criticize people and tell us who you are. I’ll ’listen to anyone with varying opinions until the judging and labeling starts, name calling or bullying. After that I’m just going to look at them as hurt and angry, trying to find their way out of a torrid of emotions by blaming and lambasting everyone else.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

If you have a problem with me using the terms"she, her, ma'am, miss, etc." then that is your problem. The same with "he, him, sir, mister, etc." I would think it would be more derogatory to use "it" as a replacement for those terms. I do not believe in "non-binary" as a gender, so it will be up to you to correct me if I address you wrong. If I can't tell the difference in your gender, then that's also on you. If you are gay or whatever you wish to be categorized as and wish my respect, then what's up with the idiotic "Gay Pride" parades where folks parade around dressed silly and act silly? In my opinion, there should be a charge of "Fraud" whenever someone fills out an official document using the wrong gender (one other than they were born with). This is my opinion, and like something else, everyone has one. When I was a child, the "N" word was forbidden and a threat of being punished if I used the word. However, "negro" was proper and acceptable. Then we were told that we should use the word "black." Now, it's African-American. An Indian is a person from India and a native of America is an Indigenous. A coworker once described himself as an African-American and I responded that I was an Euro-American. He frowned at me as if I was making fun of him. Honestly, he was probably right, because it seemed it was perfectly acceptable for him to call me a "cracker." Although, I was not and still am not insulted by the term "cracker." I've also noticed that ALL newer TV programs and movies MUST have a mixed black and white family, or else must be gay. And even though a straight family is presumed to sleep together intimately, gays must be portrayed making out to prove that they are "gay." Call me a prude, but I do not feel that in order to make an entertaining program, there must be sex in it. The plot must be pretty weak if the show must have sex to keep the audiences attention. Once again, my opinion. Thank goodness I am old enough to get away with disregarding a lot of today's 'Progress."

- “idiotic gay pride parades” Why do you have to call them idiotic?

And….yes he frowned at you because he felt you were making fun of him. He was telling you how he identifies because as you said in your first paragraph, you can’t know how someone identifies. You did indicate that it was up to people to correct you. He was doing that.

I’m glad you noticed that people of all races are finally being represented. Great! We don’t have those couple token shows like Sanford and Son or the Jeffersons like the old days. PROGRESS! Now even Euro-Americans can be on a show written and produced by black or African-American writers/producers.

So, to be clear, if you get Alzheimer’s and put the wrong thing on a form should that be considered fraud with a conviction?

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

While I do speak my mind, I don't INTENTIONALLY try to offend people. When I apologize, I'm not changing my mind on what I said.

Perhaps Metathesiophobia is real.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Everyone knows who causes most of the crime in America. No need to mention it.

Just for clarity’s sake…are you referring to all the entitled white males who took everything they wanted and left the spoils to everyone else?

[Lea N]

Look up why they want us to stop saying Grandfather, because of the term "Grandfathered"

I just googled this and couldn't believe what I read. As a woman I'm not offended at the word housework - as it implies offends women's role in housekeeping.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

This is what’s wrong with the world! If it bothers you, fine, but I don’t want to hear it and don’t care. Do what you want and don’t force it down my throat.

Women have been saying that for years.

[Bill14564]

While I do speak my mind, I don't INTENTIONALLY try to offend people. When I apologize, I'm not changing my mind on what I said.

You intentionally speak in a way you know some will find offensive. That doesn't sound any different than INTENTIONALLY trying to offend someone.

And in the times when you don't tell someone to grow thicker skin and you actually do apologize, you don't change your mind on what you said. It sounds like your apology takes the form of, "I'm sorry you get offended at what I say."

Interesting.

[Number 10 GI]

Regarding my preferred pronouns...I often thought "emperor" would great.

Mine are Your Majesty or Sire.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I just googled this and couldn't believe what I read. As a woman I'm not offended at the word housework - as it implies offends women's role in housekeeping.

Everything on Google is 100% true, 100% of the time, except when it’s not.

The issue at large is that they want the American language to stop elevating males, while demoralizing women. You can call your grandpa, forefather, gramps, ancestor or even grandfather. It’s okay.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

So these 2 polish guys go deer hunting. They walk for about an hour and then spot a very very large buck with a large rack of horns. They both fire and put him down. They start dragging him by the feet back to their pick-up truck. After about 1/2 hour, one stops and says, the rack of horns keeps catching on the bushes and trees. It would be a lot easier to drag the deer by the antlers so it wouldn't get stuck along the way. The other hunter agrees. After 2 more hours of dragging the buck, they stop to rest. One hunter says, you know, I think we are getting farther away from the truck.

One man asks another, why are so many Italians named Tony? The man answers, the boats of immigrants went past the Statue of Liberty, docked and let all the passengers off. They were seperated into groups going to different locations. For New York locations, the heads of the men were stamped in an abbreviated form, TO NY once they arrived they were all registered that way.

We have all been raised in a racist world. If you get to adulthood and don't realize that and still talk ill of people, it's because your are ignorant. And we will talk ill of you, smarten up.




QUOTE=BrianL99;2210567]OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.[/QUOTE]

Jokes aside. You are correct. We have been raised with many biases. We will likely all insert those biases at some point, BUT we don’t have to be complacent and stay stagnant when the world around us provides us new information about our behavior.

"The tragedy of life is not found in failure but complacency. Not in you doing too much, but doing too little. Not in you living above your means, but below your capacity. It's not failure but aiming too low, that is life's greatest tragedy." ~ Benjamin E. Mays

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Complacency is the forerunner of mediocrity. You can never work too hard on attitudes, effort and technique." ~ Don Meyer

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Mine are Your Majesty or Sire.

Please refer to me as Your Omnipotence.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Could it be we are evolving as a nation? Think of the words that were common place years ago. Colored became black to Afro-American. Miss, Mrs. became Ms. White has become Euro-American. More diversity in advertising, etc. the list goes on and on. There was a time blacks and females weren’t permitted to vote. One can only guess what was being talked about when these changes were taking place. As Bob Dylan wrote, “these times they are a changin.” Each generation goes through it. As example, your parents yelled to you to turn that music down, how can you listen to that garbage. Now, the parents today complain about their kids music.

Hush yo mouth about evolution. Don't you know the only good times, were the times in the 1950's? When them colored folk new their place, irish were cops or maids, eye-talians were only good for gambling and keeping the cops busy, and mexicans picked oranges in the groves, period.

The only people who had value were white folks - and even then, men were running things. Married women weren't allowed to have their own bank account, their husbands had to co-own the account, and they weren't allowed to have their own credit cards. There was no assisted living - you either died at home or you went into a "home" where you were given laudanum so you wouldn't notice how miserable you were, until you died an undignified death in your own excrement and bedsores.

Women who didn't marry were called "spinsters" and lived with the shame of being unsuitable as wives, while men who didn't marry were called "bachelors" and clapped on the back for being free-spirited.

Most families didn't own more than one car per household - and why would they need more? The wives stayed home, the husbands worked, the milk was delivered to the house.

Everyone and their brother had polio. Thalidomide, taken as a miracle anti-nausea drug for pregnant women, was the most notable cause 10s of thousands of deformities and deaths in newborns. Tuburculosis, influenza, and pneumonia were fast killers of millions of Americans during that decade, and smoking was advertised and encouraged as a healthy and healthful habit.

A 1949 advertisement for Viceroy cigarettes claimed dentists recommended them for healthy teeth.

So much awesome in the 1950's right? We should return to the good ole days and never try to improve on our species, or its vocabulary.

[LianneMigiano]

WTF, it’s getting to the point where people are afraid to speak! It must really suck trying to be a comedian these days, all you can do is make fun of yourself.

It's getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to become teachers here in FL. Just wait and see.....That's going to be the real crisis

[Two Bills]

It’s not clear why you think asking that question is hard. It’s no harder than asking what’s your birthdate or address. It’s only hard if it’s met with difficult remarks from judgemental people.

Most of the patient like me were elderly. and it was obvious many were not sure of the question.
Having to explain to some confused older patient if they had a preferred pronoun was obviously not in the original job description for the poor lady.
There was nothing judgemental about it.

[JMintzer]

I guess Dutch Masters cigars would be made taboo now, if all things tobacco were not already taboo.
Still, the Florida legislature worries me, outlawing “Drag Shows” if children might see them. A friend of mine used to travel the country as a musician, playing his bagpipes at festivals, parades, policemen’s funerals, etc, if full kilt and highland regalia . Now in Florida he would be arrested and those sponsoring the events he performed at would be pilloried, fined, and who knows what else.

Why on earth is he concerned about being arrested?

[Bill14564]

Why on earth is he concerned about being arrested?

A man in Florida wearing a skirt out in public where children might be present? Why *wouldn't* he be concerned? Yes, ridiculous, but these are strange times we live in.

[BrianL99]

I think the point the OP was making is that Snowbird, Yankee and Notherner may be derogatory terms yet we use them freely here in TV. Being a Southern girl I use the terms as terms of endearment and sometimes as a derogatory term.

Thank you for reading and understanding my point.

The fact that there are 7 pages of responses and only (2) people understood my simple, basic English, speaks volumes about the reading and comprehension ability of Villagers. I suppose you could consider my conclusion "stereotyping", but the facts seem to warrant the conclusion.

(I don't think the terms "Snowbird", "Yankee" or "Northerner" are inherently pejorative, they just always seem to be used that way in TV (& perhaps other places I don't frequent).

[BrianL99]

Your "troll" question was actually this:

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?



Exactly.

You and " perrjojo" win today's award for reading and comprehension at a reasonable level.

[Normal]

I’ve heard all the terms and used most myself. I don’t anymore, especially if they bother someone and I know it. It’s amazing how many purists have never used the terms?

Hmmm, what to do with my Mastercard?

[JMintzer]

Ironic. To label the team with a derogatory adjective and persist using that name, implies openly bullying anyone who doesn’t agree with those views.

Ah the old days when we all could be open racists. Sickening.

Amen! We need more opinions like this to squelch out the over abundant racist views on Talk of The Villages.

Well that would be confusing to your friends.

How do you stand all that body wagging? Must be hard for you. :cryin2:

Was that a humble opinion? Sounded the opposite of humble. Spoiled, entitled. I didn’t hear humble words. Regardless, It also sounds like you do not stand by your own words and want to erase the current history. The old history is written. You may not like the current history, and may want to stick to your degrading dictionary, but gender pronouns and cancel culture are history: todays history. Ignorance is blind.

You mean that other people would like the focus to go away from white privileged males to anyone else? God forbid!

It’s not clear why you think asking that question is hard. It’s no harder than asking what’s your birthdate or address. It’s only hard if it’s met with difficult remarks from judgemental people.

Looks like we got a new shooter at the craps table... Come on 7! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

[JMintzer]

A man in Florida wearing a skirt out in public where children might be present? Why *wouldn't* he be concerned? Yes, ridiculous, but these are strange times we live in.

Oh, Puleeze...

[Normal]

When I was a kid younger men and boys were addressed as “master”. The term is still used quite a bit over in England. Is it derogatory now?

[jimjamuser]

That is because Kyle was the victim defending himself and others. The men he shot were murderous thugs.
Incorrect opinion.

[Eg_cruz]

I just googled this and couldn't believe what I read. As a woman I'm not offended at the word housework - as it implies offends women's role in housekeeping.
We can’t make this stuff up….crazy

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Looks like we got a new shooter at the craps table... Come on 7! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

Bring it on. I can always use new shoes. They make my calves look sexy. You forgot my quote about referring to me as “Your Omnipotence”. Nice to meet ya Tom Petty. I may lurk some more or come back out for fun when it suits me.

[jimjamuser]

Wife and I grew up in London during WW2 with bombs and rockets falling, food shortages, rationing, and freezing cold because there was nothing left to burn.
My heart bleeds for GEN Z, and all their perceived problems with what gender they are, and where they can buy their drugs.
You play the hand you are dealt, or fold.
Get real.
Real. Check it out, gen Z has legitimate problems that we (our generation) should be sympathetic and ready to HELP them out.

[Eg_cruz]

Looks like we got a new shooter at the craps table... Come on 7! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
Thanks I needed a good laugh

[JMintzer]

Incorrect opinion.

No such thing...

You told us that, COUNTLESS times...

[JMintzer]

Bring it on. I can always use new shoes. They make my calves look sexy. You forgot my quote about referring to me as “Your Omnipotence”. Nice to meet ya Tom Petty. I may lurk some more or come back out for fun when it suits me.

So you admit you're a troll... Cool!

[jimjamuser]

Everything on Google is 100% true, 100% of the time, except when it’s not.

The issue at large is that they want the American language to stop elevating males, while demoralizing women. You can call your grandpa, forefather, gramps, ancestor or even grandfather. It’s okay.
Even the word History glorifies males. It should be His/Her Story.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

When I was a kid younger men and boys were addressed as “master”. The term is still used quite a bit over in England. Is it derogatory now?

According to the internet it’s derogatory except when referring to a solo sexual act. (Shrug)

[JMintzer]

Even the word History glorifies males. It should be His/Her Story.

https://media.tenor.com/-lih1d9bV3QAAAAC/facepalm-annoyed.gif

[jimjamuser]

Jokes aside. You are correct. We have been raised with many biases. We will likely all insert those biases at some point, BUT we don’t have to be complacent and stay stagnant when the world around us provides us new information about our behavior.

"The tragedy of life is not found in failure but complacency. Not in you doing too much, but doing too little. Not in you living above your means, but below your capacity. It's not failure but aiming too low, that is life's greatest tragedy." ~ Benjamin E. Mays

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

"Complacency is the forerunner of mediocrity. You can never work too hard on attitudes, effort and technique." ~ Don Meyer[/QUOTE]
Good quotes.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Thank you for reading and understanding my point.

The fact that there are 7 pages of responses and only (2) people understood my simple, basic English, speaks volumes about the reading and comprehension ability of Villagers. I suppose you could consider my conclusion "stereotyping", but the facts seem to warrant the conclusion.

(I don't think the terms "Snowbird", "Yankee" or "Northerner" are inherently pejorative, they just always seem to be used that way in TV (& perhaps other places I don't frequent).

I’m pretty sure there are 8 pages because you encouraged people to comment by teasing upfront that your post was controversial. I personally became less interested in your point and cared more about what the antagonists had to say.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

A man in Florida wearing a skirt out in public where children might be present? Why *wouldn't* he be concerned? Yes, ridiculous, but these are strange times we live in.

I personally find those dang kilt wearers super hot. Of course 10 yards of pleated wool is also super hot here in Florida.

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The US mail carrier: Ok I know it’s a homophone (not sure if we can use the term “homo” anymore in front of words). But we can’t call a mail carrier a female carrier unless you are Bud Light? So Why not call the US mail the US letter processing unit? Females will not be slighted by the evolved term?

[jimjamuser]

Please refer to me as Your Omnipotence.
Dear your omnipotence!
Simply refer to me as Young and Handsome or as most people do, "Hey you".

[jimjamuser]

Hush yo mouth about evolution. Don't you know the only good times, were the times in the 1950's? When them colored folk new their place, irish were cops or maids, eye-talians were only good for gambling and keeping the cops busy, and mexicans picked oranges in the groves, period.

The only people who had value were white folks - and even then, men were running things. Married women weren't allowed to have their own bank account, their husbands had to co-own the account, and they weren't allowed to have their own credit cards. There was no assisted living - you either died at home or you went into a "home" where you were given laudanum so you wouldn't notice how miserable you were, until you died an undignified death in your own excrement and bedsores.

Women who didn't marry were called "spinsters" and lived with the shame of being unsuitable as wives, while men who didn't marry were called "bachelors" and clapped on the back for being free-spirited.

Most families didn't own more than one car per household - and why would they need more? The wives stayed home, the husbands worked, the milk was delivered to the house.

Everyone and their brother had polio. Thalidomide, taken as a miracle anti-nausea drug for pregnant women, was the most notable cause 10s of thousands of deformities and deaths in newborns. Tuburculosis, influenza, and pneumonia were fast killers of millions of Americans during that decade, and smoking was advertised and encouraged as a healthy and healthful habit.

A 1949 advertisement for Viceroy cigarettes claimed dentists recommended them for healthy teeth.

So much awesome in the 1950's right? We should return to the good ole days and never try to improve on our species, or its vocabulary.
That was a VERY clever and informative post. It may go down in TOTV history as one of the best ever!

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

So you admit you're a troll... Cool!

That’s not very cool Tommy. I just said nice to meet ya. I think you misread my reply. I said to call me “your omnipotence,” not troll. Since you are challenging me I would say, why go to all the trouble to focus everyone’s attention on little ole me?

As far as ducking in and out…some of us still work and don’t have hours to waste on here replying to endless daily rants about roundabouts, bad drivers and snowflakes. Boring too. I like to really dig my heels (pun intended as an accessory to your shoe comment) into commentary by racists of many types.

[jimjamuser]

It's getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to become teachers here in FL. Just wait and see.....That's going to be the real crisis
VERY true, that !

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

The US mail carrier: Ok I know it’s a homophone (not sure if we can use the term “homo” anymore in front of words). But we can’t call a mail carrier a female carrier unless you are Bud Light? So Why not call the US mail the US letter processing unit? Females will not be slighted by the evolved term?

Once they got rid of “male carrier” and made it “mail carrier” all the kinks got worked out.

[jimjamuser]

Thank you for reading and understanding my point.

The fact that there are 7 pages of responses and only (2) people understood my simple, basic English, speaks volumes about the reading and comprehension ability of Villagers. I suppose you could consider my conclusion "stereotyping", but the facts seem to warrant the conclusion.

(I don't think the terms "Snowbird", "Yankee" or "Northerner" are inherently pejorative, they just always seem to be used that way in TV (& perhaps other places I don't frequent).
It could also "speak volumes" about the content and clarity of the original thread starter.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Dear your omnipotence!
Simply refer to me as Young and Handsome or as most people do, "Hey you".

Dear Young and handsome, thank you. I gift you some of my omnipotence or perhaps instead you would enjoy some omniscience?

[Pairadocs]

OK, so admittedly this is somewhat of a troll.

I know better than to think the conversation will remain civil, but I'm curious.

In today's world, we'd be pummeled for characterizing a person of color, as a ... (insert your own adjective).

We surely don't call people with physical disabilities, "cripples" or even "handicapped".

In some circles of government, words like "terrorist" are even verboten.

Hardly a comedian in the world, would risk mouthing a "Polish Joke".

We're not supposed to identify folks, based on their sexual preference or even their "birth gender/sex". Essentially, it's no longer deemed proper to identify people based on their lifestyle choices.

The acceptable stereotyping of our youth, has gone by the boards.

Aren't words like: "yankee", "northerner", "snowbirds", etc., used in the same sort of derogatory way, unacceptable stereotyping?

I read and hear those words every day in The Villages, used almost exclusively as a pejorative.

Well yes, you are surely opening yourself for who knows what in "backlash". The words you listed can have a very positive meaning (Yankee for instance) but we all know those terms are purposely used in a derogatory manner by many ! If you want to see really mind blowing vitriol around those terms, there is an on line "newspaper" for news in the villages. The comments section after each "article" is shocking to say the least, gives you an idea of not only what "some" residents of the villages think of "snowbirds", "Yankees", etc. but some others (who appear to live in the areas outside the villages) are very blunt about how they not only wish none of them would never come here, but wish them "vanish permanently" (?? don't like the sounds of that at all, some get quite graphic).

My opinion of your question: to me people have become much more angry, nasty, suspicious, or just much less gracious and accepting as peopled USED to be in any retirement community. I am not sure what has "caused" this, I suspect it's a variety of circumstances: influx of people entering our country illegally, fear of American citizens who come from locations, philosophies, and cultures vastly different from the once rural, laid back, very hospitable, slow paced, area here where the Villages has been built. I personally believe people have changed as a result of the Covid pandemic also. Inside the Villages, some denigrate the "groups" you named because they believe they are somehow being cheated by part time people using the amenities of the community, and, if you read the stark opinions of "some" local residents in the small communities around us, they "lump" all village residents into a group they see as wealthy (?), "uppity" "untitled" "snobs" "drunken" "elites". Not a good perception of the retired, hard working, middle class seniors who make up most of the population. To those outside, everyone here is a trust fund idiot who was head of some technology firm and now things they live in some private, guarded, elite community. You just can't change the perceptions in people's minds. Inside the Villages, you have all the resentment of permanent residents, and those who own, and float among, two or more homes. I don't think there is a single root of this, and I don't think it's going to change, "snowbird, yum, tastes like chickin" was a bumper sticker when I was a youngster in Southern Florida, nothing has changed except it has gotten much more hateful and serious. I believe the Villages only reflects what is happening nation wide: outgoing, warm, loving, kind, RESPECTFUL, accepting, caring, concerned, spiritually focused, family oriented, community supporting, happy, the words used for years to describe "Americans", is definitely changing. Notice the responses you see just on this "community bulletin board". If someone is single, or ill, or has some kind of emergency, how many people rush over to offer to mow their lawn, or fix the broken screen, or trim the branch that may be hanging over the neighbor's property ? No, the go to the nearest public forum, the "social media" to complain, but no offer of "can I help you, do you need some help with that ?". I was raised to always extend a helping hand, not criticize and judge.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

That was a VERY clever and informative post. It may go down in TOTV history as one of the best ever!

Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It's getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to become teachers here in FL. Just wait and see.....That's going to be the real crisis

There's already a teacher shortage in Florida. That's why the state government is offering veterans teaching positions. No qualifications necessary.

[jimjamuser]

Bring it on. I can always use new shoes. They make my calves look sexy. You forgot my quote about referring to me as “Your Omnipotence”. Nice to meet ya Tom Petty. I may lurk some more or come back out for fun when it suits me.
Lurking in the shadows, the all-omnipotent one has the power to INCINERATE the babbling thoughts of the lesser mortals. Walk softly and carry exquisite calves.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

VERY true, that !

Finally a safe topic! 😄

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Ahhhh…flattery will get you everywhere! As a result of being everywhere, you can also be gifted omnipresence!

I hear you and I’m quietly shrugging back to my troll cave on Petty Avenue. Quieter, softer. Gentler. I really should have taken that debate class. Sigh.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?

Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.

[jimjamuser]

According to the internet it’s derogatory except when referring to a solo sexual act. (Shrug)
I am an excellent lover - I often start early by warming myself up.

[retiredguy123]

Looks like we got a new shooter at the craps table... Come on 7! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
I counted 32 posts on this thread so far. Is that a record?

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.

I think your intention is honorable and thanks for sharing that to clarify your stance. When I weighed the number of examples that read racist (even as points of education) compared to the final singular point, it left my brain with the seesaw on the wrong side of your intention. Something to gnaw on in the future.

[jimjamuser]

Dear Young and handsome, thank you. I gift you some of my omnipotence or perhaps instead you would enjoy some omniscience?
ANYTHING is a welcome gift if it comes from Ms. Omnipotence!!!!!!!!!

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I am an excellent lover - I often start early by warming myself up.

Do what you must to roar the engine.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

I counted 32 posts on this thread so far. Is that a record?

I’m so impressed you thought enough of me to go into my profile and count all my posts. Thank you! Xoxo

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

ANYTHING is a welcome gift if it comes from Ms. Omnipotence!!!!!!!!!

I’m not sure everyone on here agrees with you. Men have been trying to put baby in a corner for years tho by saying things like, “I counted 32 posts, is that the record?” Puhleeze. Try harder. Post count shaming doesn’t work as a silencer.

[jimjamuser]

Or perhaps a sneaky way to say things that are totally uncool to say in 2023?
That and well written and way cool, in spades.....whatever that means

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That and well written and way cool, in spades.....whatever that means

You can’t use the term “spades”. It’s racial.

[jimjamuser]

Ahhhh…flattery will get you everywhere! As a result of being everywhere, you can also be gifted omnipresence!

I hear you and I’m quietly shrugging back to my troll cave on Petty Avenue. Quieter, softer. Gentler. I really should have taken that debate class. Sigh.
We ALL live in a yellow TROLL CAVE, yellow TROLL CAVE......quieter, gentler, softer.......rub my back ?

[Pairadocs]

Sure, I’ll get over my precious self if you post your real name, phone number, and photo. Hiding behind a cloak of anonymity is easy but also cowardly. I’m so over watching all the anonymous bullies on this forum doze people into the ground. Be brave and bold if you are going to criticize people and tell us who you are. I’ll ’listen to anyone with varying opinions until the judging and labeling starts, name calling or bullying. After that I’m just going to look at them as hurt and angry, trying to find their way out of a torrid of emotions by blaming and lambasting everyone else.

Always keep in mind, those who depend on name calling, bullying, judging, and anger, rather than present their "case" using a series of logical (related) steps rather than "emotions"(what the "feel"), actually have no "case" to make, or have a very weak case or point that lacks factual evidence. Those folks who rely on blame, anger, emotion, would be well served NOT to go to law school ... or join a debate team, LOL, as each statement must RELATE to the previous one in LOGICAL fashion ! Sooner or later, you can't support an idea or point on emotion and "shouting" alone. Also, low self-esteem plays a part in the whole "social media" scene. Many of who felt rather invisible and/or unimportant most of their lives, can become what they have always dreamed through the keyboard, push others DOWN so they can feel better about themselves. Seems to work for most.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

We ALL live in a yellow TROLL CAVE, yellow TROLL CAVE......quieter, gentler, softer.......rub my back ?

Ahh Jim it’s getting a little weird now. I’m a married woman who reserves back rubbing for my husband. I save ribbing for everyone else tho.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Always keep in mind, those who depend on name calling, bullying, judging, and anger, rather than present their "case" using a series of logical (related) steps rather than "emotions"(what the "feel"), actually have no "case" to make, or have a very weak case or point that lacks factual evidence. Those folks who rely on blame, anger, emotion, would be well served NOT to go to law school ... LOL ! Sooner or later, you can't support a point on emotion and "shouting" alone. Also, low self-esteem plays a part in the whole "social media" scene. Many of who felt rather invisible and/or unimportant most of their lives, can become what they have always dreamed through the keyboard, push others DOWN so they can feel better about themselves. Seems to work for most.

Can’t argue with all that good rhetoric. Two thumbs up.

[jimjamuser]

Do what you must to roar the engine.
I think that I am going ALL-Electric Beemer now. I am electric, hear me roar.......a little bit quieter now.......I practically purrrrrrrr.

[jimjamuser]

I’m not sure everyone on here agrees with you. Men have been trying to put baby in a corner for years tho by saying things like, “I counted 32 posts, is that the record?” Puhleeze. Try harder. Post count shaming doesn’t work as a silencer.
NOBODY here EVER agrees with me. It is HARD work, but someone HAS to do it!

[jimjamuser]

Ahh Jim it’s getting a little weird now. I’m a married woman who reserves back rubbing for my husband. I save ribbing for everyone else tho.
Damn, all the GOOD ones are ALWAYS taken ! On second thought, I could live with a good ribbing now and then.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

NOBODY here EVER agrees with me. It is HARD work, but someone HAS to do it!

Take it back! For today you have one unanimous concurrence. I can’t swear by tomorrow tho. I may be tied to a stake in the middle of a mob.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Damn, all the GOOD ones are ALWAYS taken ! On second thought, I could live with a good ribbing now and then.

Ha. He may acquiesce with you on most days. Thank you young and handsome. I’ll work on some ribbing material. I think you can take it.

[Two Bills]

When I was a kid younger men and boys were addressed as “master”. The term is still used quite a bit over in England. Is it derogatory now?

Head Master/Mistress at schools is now Head Teacher.
Head Master denotes Male.
Head Mistress denotes Female.

Can't have that. :shrug:

[jimjamuser]

Basically it was my usual long-winded way of reminding people that the world changes - and its denizens should learn to adapt or become extinct. Most folks in this forum don't even know what the word pronoun MEANS. And yet they're so easily offended by someone else's pronoun choice, that they degrade them, and minimalize them, to make themselves feel better about their ignorance and fear.

You don't have to like that John in Accounting wants to be referred to as "shim" and "sher." But John is the one who gets to call the shots on how people address him. You can refer to him as a "him" out of earshot - or away from where it'll get back to him. But when you publicize your disdain and loathing for all things "shim" and "sher" you basically tell everyone that YOU are the one with the problem. And John ends up feeling shamed because of YOUR lack of compassion.

(You and your being the generic use of the word, not you personally)

Racists will excuse their bad behavior by saying "oh yeah we called them colored people in the 50's, why should we have to change that?" "Oh last week it was African Americans, now it's Blifrakels, we can't keep up" etc. etc. That is what racists say. A civilized human being will say "Okay Tom, you want me to refer to you as a blifrakel, then that's how I'll refer to you from now on."

It's no skin of my nose to call someone however it makes THEM comfortable.
The replacement theory comes into play here. When a #2 or a #3 group has success, then within the #1 group some will applaud that success and say that is social progress and it strengthens America. But there are others that will take a darker response and say, "Wait am I losing my share, my power?"

[Chi-Town]

Yankee and nothener are terms the South calls the North. Usually not terms of endearment when used. Snowbird is a universal and a more accepted term for winter vacationers.
At least we don't hear "carpet *******" anymore.

[jimjamuser]

Take it back! For today you have one unanimous concurrence. I can’t swear by tomorrow tho. I may be tied to a stake in the middle of a mob.
I LOVE the visual imagery! Always avoid a mob - that's what running shoes are for.

[jimjamuser]

Head Master/Mistress at schools is now Head Teacher.
Head Master denotes Male.
Head Mistress denotes Female.

Can't have that. :shrug:
Life changes, science changes, social science changes, medical science changes.......humans became the dominant species on this planet, NOT by being the strongest or fastest animal.........but by being the most ADAPTIVE.

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The real knife in the back with all this was the elimination of Chief Wahoo and saying goodbye to the Cleveland Indians. I mean seriously, is it wrong to be an Indian, a Chief, a Brave or even a Warrior? My hope is one day the Indians come back to play as they were most of my life.

[JMintzer]

That’s not very cool Tommy. I just said nice to meet ya. I think you misread my reply. I said to call me “your omnipotence,” not troll. Since you are challenging me I would say, why go to all the trouble to focus everyone’s attention on little ole me?

As far as ducking in and out…some of us still work and don’t have hours to waste on here replying to endless daily rants about roundabouts, bad drivers and snowflakes. Boring too. I like to really dig my heels (pun intended as an accessory to your shoe comment) into commentary by racists of many types.

Tommy?

Shirley you jest...

[JMintzer]

That’s not very cool Tommy. I just said nice to meet ya. I think you misread my reply. I said to call me “your omnipotence,” not troll. Since you are challenging me I would say, why go to all the trouble to focus everyone’s attention on little ole me?

As far as ducking in and out…some of us still work and don’t have hours to waste on here replying to endless daily rants about roundabouts, bad drivers and snowflakes. Boring too. I like to really dig my heels (pun intended as an accessory to your shoe comment) into commentary by racists of many types.

Project much?

[JMintzer]

There's already a teacher shortage in Florida. That's why the state government is offering veterans teaching positions. No qualifications necessary.

There is a national teacher shortage...

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Project much?

Oops

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Tommy?

Shirley you jest...

I could have called you troll like you called me but then I would be doing the same behavior as you. Calling you Tommy just seemed kinder. (Shrug)

[JMintzer]

I could have called you troll like you called me but then I would be doing the same behavior as you. Calling you Tommy just seemed kinder. (Shrug)

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with my name... So go figure...

And you're a self admitted Troll, so I fail to see the problem addressing you as such...

[CODYCAT]

Those will be gone soon.

[sandyblanquera@gmail.com]

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with my name... So go figure...

And you're a self admitted Troll, so I fail to see the problem addressing you as such...

I would suggest you stop the personal attacks and name calling. Your stalker behavior is crossing the line.

[JMintzer]

I would suggest you stop the personal attacks and name calling. Your stalker behavior is crossing the line.

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[SHIBUMI]

There is a national teacher shortage...

If you paid them more money and better benefits there would be a teachers glut

just keep raising salaries until the shortage goes away, simple economics

people today are not concerned with contributing to society at their expense they are concerned with their income

what's a teacher worth if a person selling donuts gets 20$ an hour?

[RCMill531@comcast.net]

Totally agree!

[JMintzer]

If you paid them more money and better benefits there would be a teachers glut

Maybe, or maybe not. There is also a shortage where teachers are very well paid...

just keep raising salaries until the shortage goes away, simple economics

There's also a doctor shortage... Yet they keep paying us less... They say it's "simple economics"...

people today are not concerned with contributing to society at their expense they are concerned with their income

So, are you saying that teachers are more concerned about their income than they are about contributing to society? :confused::confused::confused:

what's a teacher worth if a person selling donuts gets 20$ an hour?

How good are the donuts? :icon_wink:


P.S. My youngest daughter is a teacher... I'm quite familiar with their plight... She is considering leaving the field after just 5 years...

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P.S. My youngest daughter is a teacher... I'm quite familiar with their plight... She is considering leaving the field after just 5 years...


Tell her to hang in there. I did 20 as a middle/high school teacher (7th- 9th) and found every second was worth it.