The Villages Radio Station

[JGibson]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

[golfing eagles]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

I think that post is really 2 questions in one:

First, why are Americans addicted to the 24 hr news cycle????

I don't know, but IMHO it began with the Iran hostage crisis with daily updates after the 11 o'clock news that led to "Nightline". Add to that Ted Turner's CNN and all the sensational advertising for any little news item, and I think they reshaped the way in which we view the news.

Second, why does TV play the news that they play?

Again, I don't know, but I suspect it is simply a case of giving the people what they want.

[tophcfa]

Between all the repetitive advertisements, pushing open houses, and crappy disco, I can’t wait for the news on the hour. If I had to listen to the voice of the woman doing the advertisements for Davis Family Hearing on a daily basis, I wouldn’t want to find a solution to my hearing issues.

[Fltpkr]

I wonder if it is cost related? Perhaps news channels can be streamed for little or no cost, while ESPN or Nature or National Geographic or the Learning Channel have a higher subscription fee.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Here’s what I do , I turn Pandora on as soon as I get up and never turn the t v on all day , the only exception is for football .I read a few news papers before I go out , a couple of international and the Boston globe . I listen in the car to jazz or sports talk radio , I have never listened to any of those cable shows whether they are left or right politically. I don’t bother looking at the gym or in restaurants , I do watch ABC news and most of PBS news hour on tape ,it’s very simple to ignore all the different news cycles if you choose to , but most don’t or they complain that it shouldn’t be on all the time it annoys them,WELL DO’NT WATCH I guarantee your life will be a little more mellow

[alwann]

I think that post is really 2 questions in one:

First, why are Americans addicted to the 24 hr news cycle????

I don't know, but IMHO it began with the Iran hostage crisis with daily updates after the 11 o'clock news that led to "Nightline". Add to that Ted Turner's CNN and all the sensational advertising for any little news item, and I think they reshaped the way in which we view the news.

Second, why does TV play the news that they play?

Again, I don't know, but I suspect it is simply a case of giving the people what they want.
And may I add, why do local TV newscasts do the weather every 5 minutes and sports gets 5 minutes total?

And who controls the background music selection in major stores? Rap and hip hop are not particularly soothing to elder ears.

[Laker14]

I think that post is really 2 questions in one:

First, why are Americans addicted to the 24 hr news cycle????

I don't know, but IMHO it began with the Iran hostage crisis with daily updates after the 11 o'clock news that led to "Nightline". Add to that Ted Turner's CNN and all the sensational advertising for any little news item, and I think they reshaped the way in which we view the news.

Second, why does TV play the news that they play?

Again, I don't know, but I suspect it is simply a case of giving the people what they want.

I think you are spot on with your analysis. I remember in 1991, with Operation Dessert Storm, being glued to the TV. I'm sure it was great for revenue. My take on it is that the networks are always trying to hype up every newsworthy, and some not so newsworthy, event, trying to get us glued to the TV.

I'm sure that's why every forecast weather event becomes the next "Super-Duper-Storm-of-the-Century-Even-Bigger-Than-The-Last-Super-Duper-Storm-Of-The Century!!!", with the unfortunate result that we all become inured to it, and some folks decide to ride one out with disastrous consequences.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think that post is really 2 questions in one:

First, why are Americans addicted to the 24 hr news cycle????

I don't know, but IMHO it began with the Iran hostage crisis with daily updates after the 11 o'clock news that led to "Nightline". Add to that Ted Turner's CNN and all the sensational advertising for any little news item, and I think they reshaped the way in which we view the news.

Second, why does TV play the news that they play?

Again, I don't know, but I suspect it is simply a case of giving the people what they want.

I doubt it has anything to do with giving people what they want. No one I know, including myself and my spouse, have ever been asked by WVLS what we want to hear through their speakers in the town squares. If they had asked, we might have had an answer other than the fox "entertainment" news network (remember they are officially not news, they are entertainment).

Then again I'd also prefer a little more variety in their music lineup. I like the oldies they put on, but I'd also like other stuff added to it.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Here’s what I do , I turn Pandora on as soon as I get up and never turn the t v on all day , the only exception is for football .I read a few news papers before I go out , a couple of international and the Boston globe . I listen in the car to jazz or sports talk radio , I have never listened to any of those cable shows whether they are left or right politically. I don’t bother looking at the gym or in restaurants , I do watch ABC news and most of PBS news hour on tape ,it’s very simple to ignore all the different news cycles if you choose to , but most don’t or they complain that it shouldn’t be on all the time it annoys them,WELL DO’NT WATCH I guarantee your life will be a little more mellow

They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.

[golfing eagles]

I doubt it has anything to do with giving people what they want. No one I know, including myself and my spouse, have ever been asked by WVLS what we want to hear through their speakers in the town squares. If they had asked, we might have had an answer other than the fox "entertainment" news network (remember they are officially not news, they are entertainment).

Then again I'd also prefer a little more variety in their music lineup. I like the oldies they put on, but I'd also like other stuff added to it.

I believe the thread was about THE NEWS, not WLVS's music choices. That being said, I think a poll of Villagers would not be inclined to choose MSNBC as their preferred news outlet, despite the fact that they are extremely entertaining by being totally out of touch with reality.

[ThirdOfFive]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

[Bilyclub]

I doubt it has anything to do with giving people what they want. No one I know, including myself and my spouse, have ever been asked by WVLS what we want to hear through their speakers in the town squares. If they had asked, we might have had an answer other than the fox "entertainment" news network (remember they are officially not news, they are entertainment).

Then again I'd also prefer a little more variety in their music lineup. I like the oldies they put on, but I'd also like other stuff added to it.

They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.

I believe the thread was about THE NEWS, not WLVS's music choices. That being said, I think a poll of Villagers would not be inclined to choose MSNBC as their preferred news outlet, despite the fact that they are extremely entertaining by being totally out of touch with reality.

Where does this WVLS get broadcast over speakers in the squares? I've always heard WVLG when there. Once is a typo, but three times?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;2214632]They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.[/QUOTE///

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.excuse me but your wrong he also talks about tv cable news in gym and in restaurants , he can’t even watch golf because of all the advertising ,and he hates the 24 hour news cycle , as far as the squares go , I don’t even pay attention to it and when there busy you really don’t know it’s there ,I’m usually enjoying myself and talking to someone it might as well be elevator music for all I care

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I seem to remember radio stations always having news updates every hour.

[catballou]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

I stopped going to TooJays years ago because of the content of the t.v.'s. It would cause customers to air grievances while I was trying to enjoy my meal. Who needs that? Granted, not eating there wasn't much of a sacrifice.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I believe the thread was about THE NEWS, not WLVS's music choices. That being said, I think a poll of Villagers would not be inclined to choose MSNBC as their preferred news outlet, despite the fact that they are extremely entertaining by being totally out of touch with reality.

The point, is that the only way they can know what people want to hear, is to ask the people. Which - they haven't done. We listen to Fox news on VLG in the squares, because that is what they have chosen to impose on us - whether we want to listen to it or not.

[Pairadocs]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

A lot to comment on here for sure. Music ? Have to agree "they" whoever "they" are, have gone way too far forcing their chatter, ads, and music to extend to the pools and other amenities of the residents ! It is really annoying, REALLY annoying. The Villages sales offices, street of dreams locations, etc., fine, it's their choice, like any department or grocery store. There should be some way the residents could get it out of the amenities. Many like to read after a swim, some just want to be able to communicate, some want to nap in the sun !
The question of how the 24 hour began ? Well, to me it seems to have started train and airport waiting areas put in CNN. Not everyone had a personal cell phone or a tablet back then, so it was either read a book, magazine, or paper, or just "people watch" to entertain ones self. It was after all, hugely successful, so many followed suit and presently the over abundance is probably (?) the result of the whole concept being so successful. As for gyms, I've belonged to quite a few but always been fortunate to be able to find one with individually controlled TV on the various machines. Not sure I would enjoy a gym where only the choice of the manager or owner was forced on me. But at least one has a choice, to patronize or not patronize... but the Villages, forcing their preference on every resident at the RESIDENT'S pools... not so smart. It is too bad "they" chose to blast the squares too, but to me, that falls under the heading "not my business" what they chose to blast out... the squares to me are more like department and grocery stores, their choice, but at the resident's rec centers, pools, etc. shame on "them" !

[Pairadocs]

They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.

Agree... but isn't that just part of democracy (?) and the USA. By that I mean, the "squares" here differ from what we know as a square in a traditional town, be it Leesburg or Orlando. To me at least, the "squares" here are a public area controlled by a private enterprise. In many ways like the "public" squares and outdoor eating and drinking areas of Disney, or like Publix or Beall's. The owners of the Villages have selected what they wish to broadcast, go into a Starbucks, and that corporation may have chosen different news or music for their establishment. I was on the square in downtown Ocala about a month ago, enjoying a lovely outdoor lunch. Ocala is a traditional municipality, yet, what did I hear ? Yes, loud speakers playing "someone's" (the mayor ? city council ?) music selections for all the public in the ares ! But I maintain that residents "should" be entitled to go to the community pools without being forced to listen to a radio program I would never listen to in my own home.

[RPDaly]

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[golfing eagles]

The point, is that the only way they can know what people want to hear, is to ask the people. Which - they haven't done. We listen to Fox news on VLG in the squares, because that is what they have chosen to impose on us - whether we want to listen to it or not.

True enough. So why not start a poll?----ask the people if they would prefer Fox or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure you won't like the answer. (Personally, I have no use for either of them)

[fdpaq0580]

It wouldn't be so bad if it was not all leftwing propaganda news

So, you prefer right-wing propaganda news.

[Worldseries27]

why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the tv gyms, why is there huge tv's with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The tv's are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.
you know you/we are never going to win this battle. The only way to win is the on/off button

[PersonOfInterest]

How could we stop the intrusion of what we don't care to listen to? They can feed whatever they want and there is nothing that we can do.

[golfing eagles]

How could we stop the intrusion of what we don't care to listen to? They can feed whatever they want and there is nothing that we can do.

Who is "we" and are all the "wes" on the same page as to what "we" want to listen to?????

[Laker14]

I started swimming laps last year at the sports pools and noticed the radio station was on, fairly loud.

Of course, it has to be fairly loud for me to hear it, especially if I'm in the water. I found it to be a mixed blessing. I enjoyed the music while swimming, although not every selection was a favorite, the overall mix was OK by me.

While FOX news is not my "go to", as far as I could tell, the news was pretty straight news, as opposed to political commentary disguised as news and defended as entertainment.

My take on this: . Much of what goes on in TV is developer driven, and directed towards marketing of TV. This was going on before I was here, and I was well aware of that fact before I bought. I like it more than I don't like it, and I strongly suspect more people like it than don't like it. It's part of the culture here. Not my favorite part, but it's part of it, and while there are parts of the culture here I'm not crazy about, there is so much I do like about TV that, like most of us, I accept the parts I'm not wild about so I can enjoy the parts I am wild about.

Now, let's get back to Tommy Roe, and "Oh Sweet Pea"...

[Priebehouse]

Seems to me that you would get a respite in AZ unless you live stream it. Personally, I think it's a great thing that TV has their own station and should be proud to broadcast in the squares. There are plenty of eateries that don't have it in their establishments and other businesses as well. Have a fabulous day!

[Ndomines]

Best option to avoid all your peeves is to get some nice warm
Mukuks, a seal or grizzly bear skin coat, a rifle and an ax.
No need to worry about electricity or radio broadcasts and move to the Brooks range.

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

[JMintzer]

Nothing but a Tempest in a Teapot...

I can't remember the last time I actually paid attention to the radio station playing in the squares... I do remember standing under a speaker once, waiting for the wife to come out of a store and what I heard was some "open house ads", some "lost pet announcements" and some classic rock...

Any other time, when walking thru the squares, I must just tune it out (married 41 years, I've learned to do that quite well... :D ), as I don't even notice it... I guess I'm just not looking to be offended...

At the pool, I bring my own ear buds and listen to the music I want to hear on my iPhone...

[PennyAnn]

Indoctrination.

They want the FOX brainwashing to continue... just like the daily rag newspaper. We stopped listening and stopped receiving the paper.

Sad and quite shocking, in this day and age.

[ThirdOfFive]

I started swimming laps last year at the sports pools and noticed the radio station was on, fairly loud.

Of course, it has to be fairly loud for me to hear it, especially if I'm in the water. I found it to be a mixed blessing. I enjoyed the music while swimming, although not every selection was a favorite, the overall mix was OK by me.

While FOX news is not my "go to", as far as I could tell, the news was pretty straight news, as opposed to political commentary disguised as news and defended as entertainment.

My take on this: . Much of what goes on in TV is developer driven, and directed towards marketing of TV. This was going on before I was here, and I was well aware of that fact before I bought. I like it more than I don't like it, and I strongly suspect more people like it than don't like it. It's part of the culture here. Not my favorite part, but it's part of it, and while there are parts of the culture here I'm not crazy about, there is so much I do like about TV that, like most of us, I accept the parts I'm not wild about so I can enjoy the parts I am wild about.

Now, let's get back to Tommy Roe, and "Oh Sweet Pea"...
Wise words.

Some time back (end of 2021?) WVLG obviously changed their programming. Instead of All Sixties All The Time (with a little 70's and rarely 80's tossed into the mix), we instead got Rod Stewart, Queen, Gloria Gaynor, Dire Straits, Santana, Boston, The Bangles, etc. etc.: all heavy on the 70s and moderate 80s pop music. IMO it was designed to appeal to the new class of retirees: people who came of age in the 70s and early 80s. In other words, people who MAY end up settling here in The Bubble. Most if not all prospective retirees ("customers") visit the squares, and if they hear music coming from the speakers that they can identify with; music from their youth and young adulthood rather than the stuff that Mom and Dad listened to--well, it will obviously promote the image that TV is trying to sell.

Personally I don't mind it, though I was never big on disco and too much Bee Gees and Donna Summer is not my cup of tea. I do miss WVLG's once-a-week show; three hours of The Sixties at Six, Seventies at Seven and Eighties at Eight", and I don't mind 'em reaching back in time for stuff from the fifties and even forties. One thing I wish they'd do (and I plan on calling them to suggest it) is to purchase broadcast rights to the old John Doremus show "Patterns in Music", which was aired once a week up to about eight years ago on a local (for me, at the time) radio station KNXR out of Rochester, MN. The music was mid-20th Century but what made the show so attractive to me, other than Mr. Doremus' hypnotic voice, was his incredibly deep knowledge of the music he played as well as the history behind it. An excellent show and one that I think many TV'ers would welcome.

But hey. It's marketing, and if TV is trying to appeal to the younger retiree crowd I doubt we'll hear it.

[golfing eagles]

Indoctrination.

They want the FOX brainwashing to continue... just like the daily rag newspaper. We stopped listening and stopped receiving the paper.

Sad and quite shocking, in this day and age.

Indoctrination????? That's the term that applies to everything else.

Schools, Universities, media etc.

[Lchughart@gmail.com]

I like the news, and specifically Fox News on there.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Nothing but a Tempest in a Teapot...

I can't remember the last time I actually paid attention to the radio station playing in the squares... I do remember standing under a speaker once, waiting for the wife to come out of a store and what I heard was some "open house ads", some "lost pet announcements" and some classic rock...

Any other time, when walking thru the squares, I must just tune it out (married 41 years, I've learned to do that quite well... :D ), as I don't even notice it... I guess I'm just not looking to be offended...

At the pool, I bring my own ear buds and listen to the music I want to hear on my iPhone... I hate to agree with you ,but when your right your right

[Regorp]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

Most of the news is bad or political, so I do not watch or listen. Put in ear pods and listen to my own awesome music instead. Problem solved.

[JGibson]

I guess the point is this news, entertainment, propanda whatever you want to call is based in division.

It's tearing not only this country but the world apart.

I feel TV is contributing to this destruction and hate in society by broadcasting divesive and controversial news over speakers.

Do we really want to hear all the gloom and doom in such a positive and wonderful retirement community?

We all have phones with notifications and a unlimited supply of news available, why cramp in down our throat in the Squares, pools etc.

It doesn't stop at TV.

I literally had to turn the golf off on Golf Channel yesterday because as you may or not know the Golf Channel is owned by NBC.

1/2 of the commercials were based in promoting MSNBC and in the most specific way with actual political conversations, no it would be no better if FOX owned the Golf Channel and excessively promoted their news channels. I don't need to hear about politics during Golf from any news organization, some watch Golf to escape the inundation of political news or just news in general.

I've been watching the Golf Channel for decades and they never jammed this amount of political news junk prior. It seems this year is when they turned to using it as a platform to push a certain news agenda.

Personally I think PGAT viewership is going to take a hit with this new form of political commercials.

Whatever happen to car and Rolex commercials?

Even the regular commercials are more virtue signaling than trying to sell a product.

To sum up it's just disgusting to see how these people use selective tragedies to further divide us.

Rant off.

[golfing eagles]

I guess the point is this news, entertainment, propanda whatever you want to call is based in division.

It's tearing not only this country but the world apart.

I feel TV is contributing to this destruction and hate in society by broadcasting divesive and controversial news over speakers.

Do we really want to hear all the gloom and doom in such a positive and wonderful retirement community?

We all have phones with notifications and a unlimited supply of news available, why cramp in down our throat in the Squares, pools etc.

It doesn't stop at TV.

I literally had to turn the golf off on Golf Channel yesterday because as you may or not know the Golf Channel is owned by NBC.

1/2 of the commercials were based in promoting MSNBC and in the most specific way with actual political conversations, no it would be no better if FOX owned the Golf Channel and excessively promoted their news channels. I don't need to hear about politics during Golf from any news organization, some watch Golf to escape the inundation of political news or just news in general.

I've been watching the Golf Channel for decades and they never jammed this amount of political news junk prior. It seems this year is when they turned to using it as a platform to push a certain news agenda.

Personally I think PGAT viewership is going to take a hit with this new form of political commercials.

Whatever happen to car and Rolex commercials?

Even the regular commercials are more virtue signaling than trying to sell a product.

To sum up it's just disgusting to see how these people use selective tragedies to further divide us.

Rant off.

Very true. What you might not know is that after many years running the extremely successful Golf AM tour, they dropped sponsorship in 2020. Why????? Because the mask loving germophobes at NBC (and their lawyers) did not want to be liable for bringing golfers together at tournaments, even though social distancing at these events was more than adequate to provide a reasonable degree of safety. All I can say is:

[mraines]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

It's difficult to reply without getting political but that's exactly why they play this station. When I first came here and heard the piped in music and news, I joked about subliminal messaging. Sometimes I think it's for real. Most villagers follow this news outlet and believe what they are told.

[NotGolfer]

I actually don't pay attention to it anymore. It doesn't aggravate me...it's almost like "white noise". If you don't want to listen to it---perhaps at home you have a choice. In the community---we're not in a regular town. It's a planned community and this is just one of the "perks" of the developer. With the broad-brush----our culture is one that has a need to be entertained. Noise to fill the quiet. Think about your own habits. Do you play music at home all day? Do you listen to favored "news" shows? OR----do you have the t.v. on with whatever interests you?? Guess the OP can call the Development office and pose his questions about WVLG to them.

[Steve]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us.

As a 20-year veteran of commercial broadcasting let me explain. There are many types of radio stations--Top 40, Country, Easy Listening, News/Talk, etc. Then there is "Full Service". I think VOGA tries to be as much of a full-service station as it can w/o having local news/sports departments. That means hooking up with a radio network--Fox, ABC, NBC, etc. That five minutes of news at the top of the hour might be the only news some people get all day. Plus it keeps you apprised of any new developments as opposed to a 30-60 minute summary at the end of the day. There are probably fifty stations in Orlando as well as stations in Ocala and every other town of any size in Central Florida. Twist that dial and find one you like.

[Bogie Shooter]

That 5 minute break seems to be current news items. Should not be confused with the talking heads on Fox.

[Heytubes]

Having worked in radio, the syndicated programming is generally free to the local stations because the national advertising
is broadcast prior to local advertising. Even baseball games.
As for the talking heads, it’s only their opinion and very little substantial fact. CNN is fixated on one person and past event, Fox is obsessed with one person, etc. the only news broadcast is at the top of the hour. I’m finding MSNBC, OAN and Newsmax are a bit more mellow. My opinion.

[Lillyangel]

Why do they use a certain news outlet or any news outlet at all?

Do they get paid from this source to be on their airwaves?

It would be easy to say just don't listen to them but they do blast it all around the Squares.

Maybe they should just stick to music if you're going to have speakers up all over the place.

Same thing at the TV gyms, why is there huge TV'S with cable news on? It's a gym put sports or nature on stop inudating us with news. The TV'S are so big it's impossible to ignore.

As a kid the news came on at 6pm-7pm unless there was some emergency.

Even going out to eat all you hear is news conversations.

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I can't even watch golf without being blasted with repetive commercials for news organizations.

Give us a break with all this so called news.

Don't turn this into politics as it's not allowed, this is just about the sheer amount of news that is bestowed on us. "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." Thomas Jefferson

[Vermilion Villager]

I believe the thread was about THE NEWS, not WLVS's music choices. That being said, I think a poll of Villagers would not be inclined to choose MSNBC as their preferred news outlet, despite the fact that they are extremely entertaining by being totally out of touch with reality.

Well....MSNBC didn't just pony up 3/4 of a BILLION $$$$$ for fabricated stories. And MSNBC isn't calling their viewers idiots and morons and referencing trailer parks they live in. So there........:spoken:

[Vermilion Villager]

So, you prefer right-wing propaganda news.
OF COURSE HE DOES!!!! :cus:
:1rotfl::1rotfl::BigApplause::mademyday:

[golfing eagles]

Well....MSNBC didn't just pony up 3/4 of a BILLION $$$$$ for fabricated stories. And MSNBC isn't calling their viewers idiots and morons and referencing trailer parks they live in. So there........:spoken:

See---they lie also :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: So there.....spoken. Actually to be precise, written. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Vermilion Villager]

Indoctrination????? That's the term that applies to everything else.

Schools, Universities, media etc.
Assume you attended a school or university. Please tell us.....are you indoctrinated or brainwashed? If not please tell us why?

[golfing eagles]

Assume you attended a school or university. Please tell us.....are you indoctrinated or brainwashed? If not please tell us why?

Thanks for the softball question. The reason I was not "brainwashed" is because I used my brain, rather than swallow what the delusional politically minded professors were dishing out. Too bad our young people are so quick to absorb that crap.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

True enough. So why not start a poll?----ask the people if they would prefer Fox or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure you won't like the answer. (Personally, I have no use for either of them)

NBC is a mainstream network. Fox is not. However if it was a tossup between Fox and CNN I'd agree - I don't want to hear either of them.

And a poll doesn't do any good. It doesn't matter what anyone wants to hear. That is the actual complaint. That it doesn't matter. What people want - is irrelevant, when it comes to the Villages LLC imposing their will on the residents and visitors to their properties.

If they cared, THEY would be asking people. Obviously they don't care. And that, is the complaint.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Thanks for the softball question. The reason I was not "brainwashed" is because I used my brain, rather than swallow what the delusional politically minded professors were dishing out. Too bad our young people are so quick to absorb that crap.

That's probably because "critical thinking" has been deemed dangerous to children in some states, and has been legislated out along with actual history, sociology, comparative religion, and any attempt to explain why Johnny says his two mommies both work at the bank.

[tuccillo]

Interesting question, I'll bite. Granted, I went to undergraduate and graduate schools over 40 years ago, and times have changed, but I don't recall any indoctrination. I went to one of the most liberal schools in the country for undergraduate and there was none of that in the classes I took. My graduate schools? There could have been but when you are spending your life in the library and the computer center it is hard to tell. Of course, when most of your classes are in math and a hard science there isn't much room for indoctrination. I don't recall ever hearing "Let's talk about numerical solutions for hyperbolic equations and their impact on the socially disadvantaged". I can't speak for the current situation but I sort of suspect there isn't much indoctrination going on in classes on PDEs and CFD today. If you are studying LDT, the situation might be different, I can't say. What you choose to study probably matters.

Assume you attended a school or university. Please tell us.....are you indoctrinated or brainwashed? If not please tell us why?

[Flyers999]

Had routine dental checkup the other day. She had HGTV on in the waiting room and in the denrist's room.
You know, the station that does home improvement and real estate.
Perfect station for the general public. Nice, innocuous, cute, and somewhat interesting. I can watch it without my blood boiling.
I've stopped staying at some chain motels because they insist on showing network news in the breakfast room.

[jimjamuser]

I think that post is really 2 questions in one:

First, why are Americans addicted to the 24 hr news cycle????

I don't know, but IMHO it began with the Iran hostage crisis with daily updates after the 11 o'clock news that led to "Nightline". Add to that Ted Turner's CNN and all the sensational advertising for any little news item, and I think they reshaped the way in which we view the news.

Second, why does TV play the news that they play?

Again, I don't know, but I suspect it is simply a case of giving the people what they want.
I assume that 70% of TV Land is satisfied with the source of the news that is played here. About 30% would like to hear the news with a more PROGRESSIVE leaning.

[jimjamuser]

I doubt it has anything to do with giving people what they want. No one I know, including myself and my spouse, have ever been asked by WVLS what we want to hear through their speakers in the town squares. If they had asked, we might have had an answer other than the fox "entertainment" news network (remember they are officially not news, they are entertainment).

Then again I'd also prefer a little more variety in their music lineup. I like the oldies they put on, but I'd also like other stuff added to it.
I would be one of the 30% that would like some other more progressive news.

[jimjamuser]

They're not talking about the TV. They're talking about walking around the town squares, where they have WVLS coming out of the speakers in all the public areas. If you're in a town square during the day, maybe trying to enjoy an early lunch out on a restaurant patio, you have NO CHOICE as to what sounds come through those speakers. You can't ask anyone to change it, or turn it off, or lower the volume.
Different people are bothered by different sounds, noise, or radio content. I am NOT a fan of the radio content here, but what bothers me much more is the almost constant sounds of loud lawnmowers, or screaming gasoline weedeaters, or screaming loud gasoline chain saws.
......Note : loud noise is NOT healthy, it has adverse effects psychologically.

[jimjamuser]

I believe the thread was about THE NEWS, not WLVS's music choices. That being said, I think a poll of Villagers would not be inclined to choose MSNBC as their preferred news outlet, despite the fact that they are extremely entertaining by being totally out of touch with reality.
MSNBC is closer to reality than many other media stations.

[tophcfa]

Different people are bothered by different sounds, noise, or radio content. I am NOT a fan of the radio content here, but what bothers me much more is the almost constant sounds of loud lawnmowers, or screaming gasoline weedeaters, or screaming loud gasoline chain saws.
......Note : loud noise is NOT healthy, it has adverse effects psychologically.

All those hard working landscapers keeping the place we live in looking beautiful, the horror of it?

[jimjamuser]

The point, is that the only way they can know what people want to hear, is to ask the people. Which - they haven't done. We listen to Fox news on VLG in the squares, because that is what they have chosen to impose on us - whether we want to listen to it or not.
Rulers impose things on their subjects.

[jimjamuser]

True enough. So why not start a poll?----ask the people if they would prefer Fox or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure you won't like the answer. (Personally, I have no use for either of them)
70% would want Foxy Newsy. So in TRUE democratic fashion, since we are all good AMERICANS, then 30% of the time they should play MSNBC.
.......Yes, thank me very much for using logic to solve an important problem in TV Land.

[jimjamuser]

How could we stop the intrusion of what we don't care to listen to? They can feed whatever they want and there is nothing that we can do.
One can get their own personal music in their earbuds. Technology to the rescue.

[jimjamuser]

Who is "we" and are all the "wes" on the same page as to what "we" want to listen to?????
Wee, Wee Mishshuer.

[jimjamuser]

I started swimming laps last year at the sports pools and noticed the radio station was on, fairly loud.

Of course, it has to be fairly loud for me to hear it, especially if I'm in the water. I found it to be a mixed blessing. I enjoyed the music while swimming, although not every selection was a favorite, the overall mix was OK by me.

While FOX news is not my "go to", as far as I could tell, the news was pretty straight news, as opposed to political commentary disguised as news and defended as entertainment.

My take on this: . Much of what goes on in TV is developer driven, and directed towards marketing of TV. This was going on before I was here, and I was well aware of that fact before I bought. I like it more than I don't like it, and I strongly suspect more people like it than don't like it. It's part of the culture here. Not my favorite part, but it's part of it, and while there are parts of the culture here I'm not crazy about, there is so much I do like about TV that, like most of us, I accept the parts I'm not wild about so I can enjoy the parts I am wild about.

Now, let's get back to Tommy Roe, and "Oh Sweet Pea"...
Good post!

[jimjamuser]

Indoctrination.

They want the FOX brainwashing to continue... just like the daily rag newspaper. We stopped listening and stopped receiving the paper.

Sad and quite shocking, in this day and age.
True, true, so true. Like dripping water torture.........drop, drop, drop hitting my head, messing with my brain.

[jimjamuser]

Very true. What you might not know is that after many years running the extremely successful Golf AM tour, they dropped sponsorship in 2020. Why????? Because the mask loving germophobes at NBC (and their lawyers) did not want to be liable for bringing golfers together at tournaments, even though social distancing at these events was more than adequate to provide a reasonable degree of safety. All I can say is:
"Germophobes at NBC", SAY YOU????????

[jimjamuser]

It's difficult to reply without getting political but that's exactly why they play this station. When I first came here and heard the piped in music and news, I joked about subliminal messaging. Sometimes I think it's for real. Most villagers follow this news outlet and believe what they are told.
True! One method of many to CONTROL the MASSES. Give them large crowd entertainment just like the Romans used the lions and Christians to keep their masses controlled.

[jimjamuser]

Thanks for the softball question. The reason I was not "brainwashed" is because I used my brain, rather than swallow what the delusional politically minded professors were dishing out. Too bad our young people are so quick to absorb that crap.
Wow! Lucky that you could RESIST the education that those Professors were putting out. Villages radio should do a special on that!

[jimjamuser]

All those hard working landscapers keeping the place we live in looking beautiful, the horror of it?
Yes, they should be issued QUIETER battery-powered equipment.

[tophcfa]

Yes, they should be issued QUIETER battery-powered equipment.

They aren’t “issued” their equipment, they purchase it with their hard earned money. If battery powered equipment would do their job more effectively and cost efficiently, they would be using it.

[golfing eagles]

Wee, Wee Mishshuer.

Was that supposed to be monsieur????? Not into phonetics.

[golfing eagles]

"Germophobes at NBC", SAY YOU????????

Probably more like "lawsuitophobes", but if the shoe fits.......

[golfing eagles]

Wow! Lucky that you could RESIST the education that those Professors were putting out. Villages radio should do a special on that!

It was easy----I know a wingnut rant when I see one----kind of like some posts on this thread

[Bay Kid]

Great hometown radio station.

[airstreamingypsy]

When did we as a society become so addicted to news?

I say that all the time. I watch local news at 6:00 and world news at 6:30. I don't understand why people watch "news" so much. It's not healthy, and for the most part not true, which was recently proved in a huge lawsuit settlement.

[JMintzer]

Indoctrination.

They want the FOX brainwashing to continue... just like the daily rag newspaper. We stopped listening and stopped receiving the paper.

Sad and quite shocking, in this day and age.

FOX NEWS! Everybody drink!

[airstreamingypsy]

It's difficult to reply without getting political but that's exactly why they play this station. When I first came here and heard the piped in music and news, I joked about subliminal messaging. Sometimes I think it's for real. Most villagers follow this news outlet and believe what they are told.

Stockholm Syndrome.

[JMintzer]

NBC is a mainstream network. Fox is not. However if it was a tossup between Fox and CNN I'd agree - I don't want to hear either of them.

And a poll doesn't do any good. It doesn't matter what anyone wants to hear. That is the actual complaint. That it doesn't matter. What people want - is irrelevant, when it comes to the Villages LLC imposing their will on the residents and visitors to their properties.

If they cared, THEY would be asking people. Obviously they don't care. And that, is the complaint.


NBC owns MSNBC... So, you are incorrect...

[JMintzer]

////

[JMintzer]

MSNBC is closer to reality than many other media stations.

https://media.tenor.com/lr8W5AadieAAAAAM/smile-laughing.gif

[JMintzer]

70% would want Foxy Newsy. So in TRUE democratic fashion, since we are all good AMERICANS, then 30% of the time they should play MSNBC.
.......Yes, thank me very much for using logic to solve an important problem in TV Land.

That is not how TRUE democracy works. Not even close...

[SuperJ]

I get the New American Magazine published by The John Birch Society (JBS.org) It comes every 2 weeks and it's very well written and referenced.
The Epoch Times (theepochtimes.com) is also a very reliable source of US and Global news. I am sure most will find it a very informative newspaper.

If you don't read you are no better off than someone who cannot read.

Don't let people attack the messenger, evaluate the message and the issues for yourself.

[NotGolfer]

Last I knew...The Villages is a developement created by a company whose in a business. When we moved here 14 yrs ago we were told that the "paper" and radio station were tools that that company used. Not only for advertising but sometimes entertainment purposes etc. We understood that. IF it had been an issue...we'd have purchased somewhere else instead of moving in and trying to change things. Back then I'd venture to say this area was VERY conservative but with time it's changed. People need to stop trying to change it to what they feel they had somewhere else. IF you chose to move here then relax---find the outlets that please you instead of trying to shove something else in place. I've found that the music etc. becomes like "white noise" eventually and we don't even hear it. IF it bothers you---get some ear-plugs or ear-phones.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Had routine dental checkup the other day. She had HGTV on in the waiting room and in the denrist's room.
You know, the station that does home improvement and real estate.
Perfect station for the general public. Nice, innocuous, cute, and somewhat interesting. I can watch it without my blood boiling.
I've stopped staying at some chain motels because they insist on showing network news in the breakfast room.

There's a store in the Villages that only plays a Christian music station. Never anything else. It isn't a store that sells religious objects, nor is it affiliated with any church. It's simply the owner's choice to play that station. Basically - they're alienating anyone who isn't Christian. That's their prerogative. And it's my prerogative to go to another place that sells similar stuff, and doesn't force their religion on me whenever I walk through the doors.

Sadly - that KIND of choice isn't an option when you just want to walk around the town squares. The roads are public property, they aren't owned by the Villages Holding company or subsidiaries. And yet, if you want to walk on those sidewalks, cross those roads, shop in the stores, you have no choice but to listen to the syndicated news of a certain political bent on your way from point A to point B.

How about they just not have speakers there at all? There's no need for them, thousands of towns nationwide manage to have a robust downtown area without music OR news piped in from speakers hidden in bushes or under street lamps.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I get the New American Magazine published by The John Birch Society (JBS.org) It comes every 2 weeks and it's very well written and referenced.
The Epoch Times (theepochtimes.com) is also a very reliable source of US and Global news. I am sure most will find it a very informative newspaper.

If you don't read you are no better off than someone who cannot read.

Don't let people attack the messenger, evaluate the message and the issues for yourself.ha ha that’s funny , the epoch times ,the mouth piece for Falun Gong , kicked off face book for sneaking ads for different right wing causes , they never saw a conspiracy theory that wasn’t fit to print and OMG the John Birch society they would be funny in there search for a communist under every bed ,if they weren’t posting so many attacks on Jews

[jimjamuser]

They aren’t “issued” their equipment, they purchase it with their hard earned money. If battery powered equipment would do their job more effectively and cost efficiently, they would be using it.
Of course, I know that TODAY the lawn maintenance noise makers use their own equipment (and note few wear ear defenders) I am talking about a hypothetical world of T V Land where life is better for the residents - where residents are NOT exposed to HIGH DECIBEL noise that is irritating mentally and slowly injures the ears and causes hearing loss. Which is already a problem among many seniors that I know.
.........Why can't the Village management tell the lawn maintenance people to use QUIETER battery powered equipment. Why can't they tell them that they need larger mufflers on their gas lawn mowers. They can tell residents what species of grass to plant and whether or NOT they can cut down a tree on their property. Since they can tell residents what they can and can NOT do - certainly they can tell the lawn people to quiet DOWN their operations.
.......The reason that they don't is that all their concentration is on DEVELOPING the southernmost end of
The Villages. They care very little about the quality of life (and NOISE is a quality of life issue) for the residents in the northern section where the properties are already sold.
.........Basically, the quality of life in the Villages could be MUCH higher that it exists today. NOISE from the commercial lawn mowers is just one OBVIOUS problem that will NEVER be solved because there is NO will to improve The Villages..........they already have your money!

[Lillyangel]

Thanks for the softball question. The reason I was not "brainwashed" is because I used my brain, rather than swallow what the delusional politically minded professors were dishing out. Too bad our young people are so quick to absorb that crap.
Common sense is the key. If you have none you are easily indoctrinated!

[jimjamuser]

I get the New American Magazine published by The John Birch Society (JBS.org) It comes every 2 weeks and it's very well written and referenced.
The Epoch Times (theepochtimes.com) is also a very reliable source of US and Global news. I am sure most will find it a very informative newspaper.

If you don't read you are no better off than someone who cannot read.

Don't let people attack the messenger, evaluate the message and the issues for yourself.
Personally, I would run away rapidly from ANYTHING having to do with the John Birch Society. I am surprised that they still exist!

[jimjamuser]

Was that supposed to be monsieur????? Not into phonetics.
Thank you. I am NOT into spelling. (and my spell check software doesn't do French)

[jimjamuser]

It was easy----I know a wingnut rant when I see one----kind of like some posts on this thread
"Wingnut Rant" I may start a rock and roll nostalgia band with that name, thank you. And I would know that they are successful when I hear them on WVLG. WVLG.......coming to your radio from the "RIGHT" end of the radio wave spectrum.

[jimjamuser]

It’s gotta be tough going through life as jimjamloser
Thanks for asking, I have had a fine life so far. It's a lovely day in my neighborhood!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Stockholm Syndrome.
Touche! That WAS very clever!!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

There's a store in the Villages that only plays a Christian music station. Never anything else. It isn't a store that sells religious objects, nor is it affiliated with any church. It's simply the owner's choice to play that station. Basically - they're alienating anyone who isn't Christian. That's their prerogative. And it's my prerogative to go to another place that sells similar stuff, and doesn't force their religion on me whenever I walk through the doors.

Sadly - that KIND of choice isn't an option when you just want to walk around the town squares. The roads are public property, they aren't owned by the Villages Holding company or subsidiaries. And yet, if you want to walk on those sidewalks, cross those roads, shop in the stores, you have no choice but to listen to the syndicated news of a certain political bent on your way from point A to point B.

How about they just not have speakers there at all? There's no need for them, thousands of towns nationwide manage to have a robust downtown area without music OR news piped in from speakers hidden in bushes or under street lamps.
That is an excellent point about the Christian music in one particular shop. There are people that believe that ALL religion holds back novel and innovative ideas.
.........As to the radio station with the conservative bias being forced upon all who walk on the squares - I would suggest that 30% of Village residents are progressive, so to be FAIR any news pushed out onto the squares SHOULD, by rights, be 70% conservative and 30% of the time be more progressive. That way ALLof the residents should receive the CORRECT proportion of radio news.

[jimjamuser]

Perhaps one of those thousands of towns will better suit your needs. chilout
The problem that the poster mentions is a local problem and the poster is merely suggesting solutions that would improve the "Quality of Life" here in TV Land. Since the "Quality of Life" here is NOT perfect, those suggestions should be WELCOMED.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Loud Lawn mower noise it’s to hot to live here rants , radio noise , sometimes I wonder how people got through there life being so thin skinned. Again the music that’s piped in most places can be tuned out if you let it , but I suspect if the news was very liberal or fit some peoples views it wouldn’t bother them . My best fiend in the villages is very far to the right , I’m very far to the left , I love sports , she hates sports , we get along famously because we have so much more to talk about , just go along with the flow here and don’t get bothered by the politics , the less you pay attention the happier you’ll be , the politics are more conservative here it doesn’t make it a bad place , I’m going to bike down to Brownwood now , I hope there not playing any Lawrence Welk now that would really bother me

[fdpaq0580]

WVLG music is one thing. But the "news" is the bone of contention here. WVLG might consider dumping news altogether in favor of more music. That way, no complaints/concerns about "propaganda". Just complaints about music choices.
Having music piped into every space and venue is tiresome and a bit "big brotherish", imho. I say, DROP THE NEWS!

[jimjamuser]

ha ha that’s funny , the epoch times ,the mouth piece for Falun Gong , kicked off face book for sneaking ads for different right wing causes , they never saw a conspiracy theory that wasn’t fit to print and OMG the John Birch society they would be funny in there search for a communist under every bed ,if they weren’t posting so many attacks on Jews
An excellent post and I would like to add that pushing out hatred for Jewish people is Historically terrible because of its association with Hitler and WW2. If we truly live in a "free world" then that "Jewish people are the problem" should have died with Hitler. It is a Historic DISGRACE of great magnitude.

[golfing eagles]

"Wingnut Rant" I may start a rock and roll nostalgia band with that name, thank you. And I would know that they are successful when I hear them on WVLG. WVLG.......coming to your radio from the "RIGHT" end of the radio wave spectrum.

You're welcome. Great idea, and you're just the person for the job :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: (or maybe OBB)

[jimjamuser]

Loud Lawn mower noise it’s to hot to live here rants , radio noise , sometimes I wonder how people got through there life being so thin skinned. Again the music that’s piped in most places can be tuned out if you let it , but I suspect if the news was very liberal or fit some peoples views it wouldn’t bother them . My best fiend in the villages is very far to the right , I’m very far to the left , I love sports , she hates sports , we get along famously because we have so much more to talk about , just go along with the flow here and don’t get bothered by the politics , the less you pay attention the happier you’ll be , the politics are more conservative here it doesn’t make it a bad place , I’m going to bike down to Brownwood now , I hope there not playing any Lawrence Welk now that would really bother me
I fail to see on a local forum why one would not point out that the last 8 years have been record heat worldwide. For one reason, it is a warning for Floridians to watch the Gulf and ocean temperatures which are the engine for KILLER hurricanes. Should those facts be ignored? Personally, I don't think so. People can be very happy and still be aware and point out flaws and problems in the system and local stuff.
.......My best friend is a puppy dog and we never argue even though she is a strong animal rights advocate.
.....Why is it so terrible to point out that gasoline lawnmowers could be required to have larger mufflers on them - also older golf carts? And QUIET electric vehicles should be encouraged locally and NOT the opposite.
......"don't get bothered by politics".......I can't believe that would EVER be said. Maybe Hitler and Putin told that to their people. Without the people taking our country back from the uber rich individuals and corporations we will NEVER get what the 80% want........to have their children go to school without getting shot......to have the uber-rich pay their fair share of taxes.......to have national health care.........to protect the borders and limit illegal immigration.........to have an even better interstate highway system ......to have safe bridges.
........I seriously doubt that I will EVER hear those ideas discussed on WVLG - I will KEEP expecting pablum for the masses from them.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That is an excellent point about the Christian music in one particular shop. There are people that believe that ALL religion holds back novel and innovative ideas.
.........As to the radio station with the conservative bias being forced upon all who walk on the squares - I would suggest that 30% of Village residents are progressive, so to be FAIR any news pushed out onto the squares SHOULD, by rights, be 70% conservative and 30% of the time be more progressive. That way ALLof the residents should receive the CORRECT proportion of radio news.

I'd rather they just not broadcast any news at all. It's not like they need the money that being a network affiliate provides. They can afford to be a completely independent, news-free, music station that provides Villages-specific information and local ads only.

[JMintzer]

Thanks for asking, I have had a fine life so far. It's a lovely day in my neighborhood!!!!!!!

So, nobody mowing the lawns?

[JMintzer]

There's a store in the Villages that only plays a Christian music station. Never anything else. It isn't a store that sells religious objects, nor is it affiliated with any church. It's simply the owner's choice to play that station. Basically - they're alienating anyone who isn't Christian. That's their prerogative. And it's my prerogative to go to another place that sells similar stuff, and doesn't force their religion on me whenever I walk through the doors.

Sadly - that KIND of choice isn't an option when you just want to walk around the town squares. The roads are public property, they aren't owned by the Villages Holding company or subsidiaries. And yet, if you want to walk on those sidewalks, cross those roads, shop in the stores, you have no choice but to listen to the syndicated news of a certain political bent on your way from point A to point B.

How about they just not have speakers there at all? There's no need for them, thousands of towns nationwide manage to have a robust downtown area without music OR news piped in from speakers hidden in bushes or under street lamps.

I'm not Christian and it doesn't alienate me...

[Tommyc6]

It’s really sad that there is so many unhappy people here.

[Flyers999]

So you are shocked that old people are complaining?

[fdpaq0580]

I'd rather they just not broadcast any news at all. It's not like they need the money that being a network affiliate provides. They can afford to be a completely independent, news-free, music station that provides Villages-specific information and local ads only.

Totally agree.

[bruce213]

There are 2 questions with the same answer MONEY and POLITICAL POWER.
1. On the TV radio I'm sure there are studies as to what audiences want to hear. TV radio targets what the average villager wants to hear in gives the developer an outlet to promote TV and revenue from ads.

2. Back in the old time days the FCC controlled the air ways and required tv and radio stations to news broad cast as a public service. It was also a requirement if you gave an opinion you HAD to give opposing views equal airtime. ( Keep the public fairly informed) This is why you rarely saw any because you had to buy the other side time. That all changed with cable news, subscription serviced and easy internet access.

[Bilyclub]

I for one listen to WVLG a couple times a day. The hourly Fox News updates are presented in a neutral manner as they should be. When everybody moved here they should have been aware how things work here. The 2 minutes of news an hour is miniscule, though the attached ads are annoying.

[JGibson]

It’s really sad that there is so many unhappy people here.
Unhappy? That's what you got out this?

It's just a discussion about the inundation of news sources being blasted over speakers in squares, pools, rec. centers.
I think TV is the best place in the country, but starting a conversation and question things is healthy.

Again, it's not 1970 when we didn't have an unlimited supply of accessible news at out finger tips.

Actually it's the gloom and doom and manufactured news that is bring down a wonderful place like TV.

Not for nothing but the news source they utilize just paid out over $700 million for basically lying and their ratings have for the first time been overtaken by another news outlet.

Let's be honestly nothing of it is actually news.

I just think it's cheaping TV and the beauty of it.

Just because you don't agree with everything doesn't mean you're overally unhappy. Cheers.

[JMintzer]

Unhappy? That's what you got out this?

It's just a discussion about the inundation of news sources being blasted over speakers in squares, pools, rec. centers.
I think TV is the best place in the country, but starting a conversation and question things is healthy.

Again, it's not 1970 when we didn't have an unlimited supply of accessible news at out finger tips.

Actually it's the gloom and doom and manufactured news that is bring down a wonderful place like TV.

Not for nothing but the news source they utilize just paid out over $700 million for basically lying and their ratings have for the first time been overtaken by another news outlet.

Let's be honestly nothing of it is actually news.

I just think it's cheaping TV and the beauty of it.

Just because you don't agree with everything doesn't mean you're overally unhappy. Cheers.

I see... It's just that you don't like the news source...

I don't like being inundated by CNN at the airport. But do I rant about it? No. I ignore it...

[jimjamuser]

There are 2 questions with the same answer MONEY and POLITICAL POWER.
1. On the TV radio I'm sure there are studies as to what audiences want to hear. TV radio targets what the average villager wants to hear in gives the developer an outlet to promote TV and revenue from ads.

2. Back in the old time days the FCC controlled the air ways and required tv and radio stations to news broad cast as a public service. It was also a requirement if you gave an opinion you HAD to give opposing views equal airtime. ( Keep the public fairly informed) This is why you rarely saw any because you had to buy the other side time. That all changed with cable news, subscription serviced and easy internet access.
#2 The FCC. What did they do, just pack it up and disappear? There is no reason that I know of that they should NOT be capable of defining and observing PROPAGANDA when and where it exists and blocking it with laws and fines.
#1 It is intuitively obvious that since the developer is conservative (just judging by which candidates are invited to speak here) they REQUIRE conservative news throughout The Villages. About 30% of all Villagers are progressive, but they are ignored and even mocked here.

[jimjamuser]

I'd rather they just not broadcast any news at all. It's not like they need the money that being a network affiliate provides. They can afford to be a completely independent, news-free, music station that provides Villages-specific information and local ads only.
I agree that would be a superior policy compared to the existing one. The existing policy is one of "might makes right" and the 30% that do NOT want conservative NEWS can just "go pound salt" (whatever that means)?

[golfing eagles]

I agree that would be a superior policy compared to the existing one. The existing policy is one of "might makes right" and the 30% that do NOT want conservative NEWS can just "go pound salt" (whatever that means)?

Yes, they can 😂😂😂

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I'm not Christian and it doesn't alienate me...

You might not feel alienated. But yes, it alienates you if you're not Christian and they impose Christian music on you in a store that isn't "about" being Christian.

In other words - in a Christian book store, where they sell books about Christianity, self-help religious-based books, and the like - you should expect that they'll play Christian music, if any. That would be normal, acceptable, and make sense.

But in a store that is *supposedly* inviting any and all paying customers, to only welcome music of one specific religion - is intentionally excluding all others. That is them, alienating you - and anyone else who isn't Christian.

Whether you "are alienated" is up to you. Just like if someone says insulting things to you, well - they are. They're saying insulting things to you. If you choose not to be insulted by them, then that's up to you. But they're still saying those things.

[Calisport]

I never even notice the news so it is welcome. I just get tired of the oldie, moldies, and odd music from artists you really don't want to hear.

[Pairadocs]

The point, is that the only way they can know what people want to hear, is to ask the people. Which - they haven't done. We listen to Fox news on VLG in the squares, because that is what they have chosen to impose on us - whether we want to listen to it or not.

Yes, to me it's no different than being in an elevator, any elevator, you listen (or try to block if you must) what someone else has chosen for you. Same at Beall's department store, Macy's, or in Starbucks, "they" decide. To me these "public" squares are "public, but... not quite like the heart of an actual traditional municipality, which may, or may not, be able to decree music to be played on the sidewalks... really don't know the answer to that one, would the mayor and council be able to decide to broadcast and choose music ? But to me, the Villages is one of those vague administrative configurations, kind of "private" public areas ...LOL ?

[Pairadocs]

That is not how TRUE democracy works. Not even close...

Correct, not even close is right. However, do you realize just how few individuals there are who know the difference in a democracy and a democratic republic ? Let along actually be able to articulate and explain terms they throw around all the time; fascist government, socialist, Marxist, and so on. A bit shocking just how many "well educated" citizens can't give coherent definitions of the various forms of government, and could not tell you anything concerning the constitution they LIVE UNDER... they are clueless in many cases.

[Pairadocs]

I get the New American Magazine published by The John Birch Society (JBS.org) It comes every 2 weeks and it's very well written and referenced.
The Epoch Times (theepochtimes.com) is also a very reliable source of US and Global news. I am sure most will find it a very informative newspaper.

If you don't read you are no better off than someone who cannot read.

Don't let people attack the messenger, evaluate the message and the issues for yourself.

Unfortunately, what was once stimulating, engaging, conversation, in which individuals presented actual facts to support their point of view (like in high school and college debate teams), has given way to "feelings, emotions", loyalty to an idea even when it becomes clear, with time, the position is faulty (so much of that during the "pandemic" for example), and in my opinion a great deal of this inability to actually substantiate a point, comes directly from the addiction to any ONE of the "news" formation sources, including now the hiring of social media "influencers", even our own presidential administration now employs them, not just private corporations anymore. This has so obviously, and slowly, developed an entire population that has been relieved of the burden of "thinking", analyzing, rationalizing, or researching. It has also resulted in a physical and mental inability to say "I was wrong". We have become a kind of mechanical A/I already, tune to our preferred propaganda source, and over time our thinking patterns and ability diminish. In fact, I am not aware of any schools where thinking skills are actually taught and developed.

[Two Bills]

Of course, I know that TODAY the lawn maintenance noise makers use their own equipment (and note few wear ear defenders) I am talking about a hypothetical world of T V Land where life is better for the residents - where residents are NOT exposed to HIGH DECIBEL noise that is irritating mentally and slowly injures the ears and causes hearing loss. Which is already a problem among many seniors that I know.
.........Why can't the Village management tell the lawn maintenance people to use QUIETER battery powered equipment. Why can't they tell them that they need larger mufflers on their gas lawn mowers. They can tell residents what species of grass to plant and whether or NOT they can cut down a tree on their property. Since they can tell residents what they can and can NOT do - certainly they can tell the lawn people to quiet DOWN their operations.
.......The reason that they don't is that all their concentration is on DEVELOPING the southernmost end of
The Villages. They care very little about the quality of life (and NOISE is a quality of life issue) for the residents in the northern section where the properties are already sold.
.........Basically, the quality of life in the Villages could be MUCH higher that it exists today. NOISE from the commercial lawn mowers is just one OBVIOUS problem that will NEVER be solved because there is NO will to improve The Villages..........they already have your money!

I have had to put my trusty Honda gas lawn mower into retirement, as it was getting to heavy for me to push around our lawn.
Bought a lighter, state of the art battery powered mower as replacement.
So much noisier than the gas mower, a very high pitched scream best describes it.
Be careful what you wish for.

[John Mayes]

Of course, I know that TODAY the lawn maintenance noise makers use their own equipment (and note few wear ear defenders) I am talking about a hypothetical world of T V Land where life is better for the residents - where residents are NOT exposed to HIGH DECIBEL noise that is irritating mentally and slowly injures the ears and causes hearing loss. Which is already a problem among many seniors that I know.
.........Why can't the Village management tell the lawn maintenance people to use QUIETER battery powered equipment. Why can't they tell them that they need larger mufflers on their gas lawn mowers. They can tell residents what species of grass to plant and whether or NOT they can cut down a tree on their property. Since they can tell residents what they can and can NOT do - certainly they can tell the lawn people to quiet DOWN their operations.
.......The reason that they don't is that all their concentration is on DEVELOPING the southernmost end of
The Villages. They care very little about the quality of life (and NOISE is a quality of life issue) for the residents in the northern section where the properties are already sold.
.........Basically, the quality of life in the Villages could be MUCH higher that it exists today. NOISE from the commercial lawn mowers is just one OBVIOUS problem that will NEVER be solved because there is NO will to improve The Villages..........they already have your money!

Against my better judgment, I have to ask……do you mow your own lawn and trim and maintain your landscaping? If the answer is “no” and you hire someone else to do it……do you require them to use only electric equipment?

[Bay Kid]

I look at this post today and all of a sudden it isn't about the radio station. Wow.

[Bilyclub]

Yes, to me it's no different than being in an elevator, any elevator, you listen (or try to block if you must) what someone else has chosen for you. Same at Beall's department store, Macy's, or in Starbucks, "they" decide. To me these "public" squares are "public, but... not quite like the heart of an actual traditional municipality, which may, or may not, be able to decree music to be played on the sidewalks... really don't know the answer to that one, would the mayor and council be able to decide to broadcast and choose music ? But to me, the Villages is one of those vague administrative configurations, kind of "private" public areas ...LOL ?

LSL and Brownwood and the surrounding streets are owned by the LSL Commercial District so in essence the developer.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

In fact, I am not aware of any schools where thinking skills are actually taught and developed.

There are many schools that teach critical thinking skills. In elementary school level, The Waldorf Schools teach it as early as 1st grade. In fact they don't even teach literacy until later grades, and by the time they are taught to read, they're already miles ahead of public school students in comprehension.

For college/university level, any liberal arts school will teach critical thinking as a normal part of all the OTHER curricula. While it might be its own course, it's generally just an integral part of everything else. Emerson College is one such school but there are dozens of others throughout the country.

Unfortunately, certain groups have chosen to de-emphasize college, in favor of trade and tech schools. So more people are being taught that "liberal arts is stupid and pointless" and that only schools that will get you a career in tech or the trades has value. They're wrong, but if they want their kids to grow up to be good little robots who obey and never question anything or think for themselves, then they can do that in this free country.

I can enjoy a conversation with some random person I meet in the town square sitting next to me, if they have a well-rounded perspective of life and can contribute more than just political talking points or sound-bites they read on the internet, and is just a part-time supermarket cashier.

I can't enjoy a conversation with a random person I met whose opinions exist only because one "side" or the other has instructed them to think that way about things, who has had a successful career in a trade, but has only learned about life via cable news "shows" (as opposed to actual news).

[JMintzer]

I have had to put my trusty Honda gas lawn mower into retirement, as it was getting to heavy for me to push around our lawn.
Bought a lighter, state of the art battery powered mower as replacement.
So much noisier than the gas mower, a very high pitched scream best describes it.
Be careful what you wish for.

And that "high pitched whine" bothers me more than a gas engine... Go figure...

But rather than post about it day after day after day after day, I'll simply refrain from buying one...

[oldtimes]

Yes, it is up to YOU to be offended. I choose not to be offended by such trivial matters... YMMV...

YOU are assuming that YOUR being offended means that everyone else is also being offended...

Sorry, but that's just not the case...

Just like when "non-Christian" stores play Christmas Music in November and December... As long as it's not that damn Mariah Carey song, I'm good...

Yes, I wish we could go back to a time where if people were offended they just walked away and didn’t think the world needed to change for them.

[JGibson]

I look at this post today and all of a sudden it isn't about the radio station. Wow.

It was never solely about the radio station but I needed a brief title. lol.

[JGibson]

There are many schools that teach critical thinking skills. In elementary school level, The Waldorf Schools teach it as early as 1st grade. In fact they don't even teach literacy until later grades, and by the time they are taught to read, they're already miles ahead of public school students in comprehension.

For college/university level, any liberal arts school will teach critical thinking as a normal part of all the OTHER curricula. While it might be its own course, it's generally just an integral part of everything else. Emerson College is one such school but there are dozens of others throughout the country.

Unfortunately, certain groups have chosen to de-emphasize college, in favor of trade and tech schools. So more people are being taught that "liberal arts is stupid and pointless" and that only schools that will get you a career in tech or the trades has value. They're wrong, but if they want their kids to grow up to be good little robots who obey and never question anything or think for themselves, then they can do that in this free country.

I can enjoy a conversation with some random person I meet in the town square sitting next to me, if they have a well-rounded perspective of life and can contribute more than just political talking points or sound-bites they read on the internet, and is just a part-time supermarket cashier.

I can't enjoy a conversation with a random person I met whose opinions exist only because one "side" or the other has instructed them to think that way about things, who has had a successful career in a trade, but has only learned about life via cable news "shows" (as opposed to actual news).

Be careful with crossing the imaginary political line. I wouldn't use the word “President” as I don't want to see you banned, because you did make a mature and articulate point and look forward to more content like that.

[JMintzer]

Unfortunately, certain groups have chosen to de-emphasize college, in favor of trade and tech schools. So more people are being taught that "liberal arts is stupid and pointless" and that only schools that will get you a career in tech or the trades has value. They're wrong, but if they want their kids to grow up to be good little robots who obey and never question anything or think for themselves, then they can do that in this free country. .

Which is exactly what is going on on many of the once great "Liberal Arts Schools"...

If you don't toe the party line and be "good little robots", you're shouted down, shunned and often threatened and physically attacked...

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

There are many schools that teach critical thinking skills. In elementary school level, The Waldorf Schools teach it as early as 1st grade. In fact they don't even teach literacy until later grades, and by the time they are taught to read, they're already miles ahead of public school students in comprehension.

For college/university level, any liberal arts school will teach critical thinking as a normal part of all the OTHER curricula. While it might be its own course, it's generally just an integral part of everything else. Emerson College is one such school but there are dozens of others throughout the country.

Unfortunately, certain groups have chosen to de-emphasize college, in favor of trade and tech schools. So more people are being taught that "liberal arts is stupid and pointless" and that only schools that will get you a career in tech or the trades has value. They're wrong, but if they want their kids to grow up to be good little robots who obey and never question anything or think for themselves, then they can do that in this free country.

I can enjoy a conversation with some random person I meet in the town square sitting next to me, if they have a well-rounded perspective of life and can contribute more than just political talking points or sound-bites they read on the internet, and is just a part-time supermarket cashier.

I can't enjoy a conversation with a random person I met whose opinions exist only because one "side" or the other has instructed them to think that way about things, who has had a successful career in a trade, but has only learned about life via cable news "shows" (as opposed to actual news). I enjoy the Dunkin Donuts right beside Emerson looking out at Boston Common , those kids will actually talk to you instead of lost in there cell phones , they are growing up within a cultural environment that will enrich there life no matter what they do in life.Some of the most important woman in my life have come from that school and some are still in my life .FYI I think somewhere you said you did .

[Two Bills]

And that "high pitched whine" bothers me more than a gas engine... Go figure...

But rather than post about it day after day after day after day, I'll simply refrain from buying one...

WT?
I was replying to 'JJM.'
Where have I posted about it day after day after day after day?
Do you just like being objectionable in your posts?

[LeftyMike]

If you are interest in hear about what is going on the The Villages - Club, People and topics of interest to seniors, listen to:
OpenForumInTheVillages.com podcast.

[John Mayes]

WT?
I was replying to 'JJM.'
Where have I posted about it day after day after day after day?
Do you just like being objectionable in your posts?

Not trying to speak for others but I really don’t think his response was aimed at you but rather the user that you originally replied to.

[JMintzer]

WT?
I was replying to 'JJM.'
Where have I posted about it day after day after day after day?
Do you just like being objectionable in your posts?

I wasn't insinuating that you do. Sorry if you took it that way...

I was piggy backing on your comment to JJM...

[JMintzer]

Not trying to speak for others but I really don’t think his response was aimed at you but rather the user that you originally replied to.

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[Two Bills]

I wasn't insinuating that you do. Sorry if you took it that way...

I was piggy backing on your comment to JJM...

:thumbup:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I enjoy the Dunkin Donuts right beside Emerson looking out at Boston Common , those kids will actually talk to you instead of lost in there cell phones , they are growing up within a cultural environment that will enrich there life no matter what they do in life.Some of the most important woman in my life have come from that school and some are still in my life .FYI I think somewhere you said you did .

Yes I went to and was graduated from Emerson, class of '84. The school has changed a lot of their real estate since I went - we used to be located almost exclusively along Beacon Street, from 98 Beacon at Berkeley, all the way past Mass Ave at the old Fensgate and Charlesgate hotels. The drama department was behind Charles, on Brimmer Street. We had no property in the current location, which was - at the time - known appropriately as The Combat Zone.

Denis Leary and Mario Cantone were a couple of the people I knew, Mario I was more friendly with and Denis taught a single semester of a creative writing class the year he graduated. He was my teacher - and a classmate the year prior while he was still a student. Ben Stiller's sister Amy was in my class; though I didn't know her on familiar terms, we did know many of the same people.

Our school was eclectic and diverse - around 60% of faculty and students were one iteration of LGBTQ+ or another - most identified as simply "gay." We had people of various colors, accents, nationalities, and backgrounds. My first roommate spent much of her early years living in Iran with her dad, who was in the oil business. But she was a pure-bred beautiful blond Texan. Our school was liberal arts on steroids - Dramatic arts, speech pathology, stage lighting, journalism (TV, Print, and Radio), sociology, history, writing (creative and poetry), and oratory (debates, speeches, dialectics).

Critical thinking was ingrained in ALL our classes, there was no singular class called "Critical Thinking." It was a skill you were expected to just - have, and nourish, throughout your school years and beyond into life. You'd never make it in a school like Emerson without it.