Wildwood Police were out ticketing Golf Carts on Friday

[Woodbear]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well.

Be safe out there

[Arctic Fox]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well. Be safe out there

So the police were doing their job, then?

[Laker14]

do you know what violations they were citing?

Speeding?
Crossing the white line to pass?

[Get real]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well.

Be safe out there

You just got someone in trouble for doing their job.....

The Wildwood Police Department’s new golf cart is officially on “patrol.”

Officer David Perry of the police department said the golf cart will strictly be used for community outreach and offers a way in which to “engage with the public.”

Villagers are likely to see the new golf cart in use south of State Road 44 and in the Brownwood area.

However, he said the golf cart will not be used to catch speeders or for other more-traditional law enforcement purposes.

“We’ve really had a good reaction to to the new golf cart,” Perry said.

:gc:

[golfing eagles]

So the police were doing their job, then?

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

[rustyp]

do you know what violations they were citing?

Speeding?
Crossing the white line to pass?

Parking on the grass?

[ThirdOfFive]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well.

Be safe out there

'Bout bleepin' time!!

[ThirdOfFive]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.
I'm fairly sure that golf cart scofflaws present a bigger danger to rank-and-file Villagers than any danger they may be in from shootings, armed robberies and assaults.

[golfing eagles]

'Bout bleepin' time!!

See post #5

[mrf0151]

However, he said the golf cart will not be used to catch speeders or for other more-traditional law enforcement purposes.

Let's not get too excited here folks.

[Pondboy]

Not sure this one photo supports your claim…..did you interview anyone to see what was up? Perhaps they were drinking and driving in the golf cart? If you were a police officer, would you look the other way towards that offense?

I for one would welcome some enforcement on the golf cart paths. Too often I see people drinking and driving, running stop signs and just being too daring in the operation of golf carts.

[JoelJohnson]

I don't know about the cart path, but on the roads they get them for an unregistered vehicle.

[golfing eagles]

Not sure this one photo supports your claim…..did you interview anyone to see what was up? Perhaps they were drinking and driving in the golf cart? If you were a police officer, would you look the other way towards that offense?

I for one would welcome some enforcement on the golf cart paths. Too often I see people drinking and driving, running stop signs and just being too daring in the operation of golf carts.

Don't you mean bicycles?????

[UpNorth]

They could bring in a small daily fortune if they just wanted to go after speeding (aka unregistered motor vehicle) golf carts on the main roads.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph. did you see the article about the FBI raiding the home of a 68 year old guy and found one marijuana plant growing in a bucket , he had to post a $5000.00 bail I think it was in Ocala , thats a good use of crime fighting

[golfing eagles]

did you see the article about the FBI raiding the home of a 68 year old guy and found one marijuana plant growing in a bucket , he had to post a $5000.00 bail I think it was in Ocala , thats a good use of crime fighting

Almost as good as spending tens of thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of police time to find golf carts going 20.1 mph?????

Also, I doubt that those *****s that want police out to catch speeding golf carts have never exceeded 19.9.

[VApeople]

Meggison has its fair share of speed traps


In my opinion, the speed traps are needed because we see a lot of cars exceeding the speed limit of 30 mph.

We go down there a lot because we like the MickeyLee golf course, the putting course, and the beautiful walking/biking trails in Lake Denham. A lot of cars and golf carts coming out of Citrus Grove seem to have a hard time pulling out onto Meggison because the traffic is so heavy and goes so fast.

A few weeks ago, I read that someone got t-boned pulling out of Citrus Grove.

[fdpaq0580]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

WOW! Over react much? Nothing was said or implied about not doing any of the other things the police normally do as part of their job. Are you concerned that you might get caught? This is just another tool for them to use for the benefit of us all ... or, at least, the law abiding among us.

[roob1]

Your claim is based on what evidence? Just another exaggeration/complaint. If you spend any time on the cart baths south of 44, you will see a vast majority of golf carts and bikers totally ignoring stop signs. And most don't even bother to look around when crossing. Maybe patrolling will prevent an unnecessary injury or death.


Almost as good as spending tens of thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of police time to find golf carts going 20.1 mph?????

Also, I doubt that those *****s that want police out to catch speeding golf carts have never exceeded 19.9.

[Normal]

Crime fighting needs to be a top priority. The addition of golf carts to assist in crime fighting in the Villages is welcome.

Five years from now, we will have TV shows like NCIS The Villages and SWAT Villages style. Maybe even Villages 5-O!

[golfing eagles]

WOW! Over react much? Nothing was said or implied about not doing any of the other things the police normally do as part of their job. Are you concerned that you might get caught? This is just another tool for them to use for the benefit of us all ... or, at least, the law abiding among us.

I can't be caught since my golf cart is set to 20. (translation: law abiding). However, I don't believe that a golf cart going 20 is the safest invention ever and a golf cart going 20.1 is a dangerous invention of Satan that reeks mayhem and devastation wherever it goes. Nor do I think it is worth law enforcement resources to "catch" these archcriminals.

[justjim]

History of The Villages shows that most fatalities have occurred in golf carts. Many residents treat a golf cart as a “toy” and some as a “race car” instead of a possible dangerous means of transportation if not driven in a proper manner. The growth of golf carts (as well as homes) in The Villages has been phenomenal in the last 15 years. With incredible growth comes more issues and “you ain’t seen nothing yet”. Kudos to the Wildwood police Department with their attempt to help the situation.

[tophcfa]

If I had a vote it would be to give out tickets to people obsessed with their phone while driving and to those who drive well below the speed limit who suddenly realize where the gas pedal is when someone attempts to pass them.

[brianherlihy]

well the cops can give bicycles a tic for not stoping and just drive by

[golfing eagles]

History of The Villages shows that most fatalities have occurred in golf carts. Many residents treat a golf cart as a “toy” and some as a “race car” instead of a possible dangerous means of transportation if not driven in a proper manner. The growth of golf carts (as well as homes) in The Villages has been phenomenal in the last 15 years. With incredible growth comes more issues and “you ain’t seen nothing yet”. Kudos to the Wildwood police Department with their attempt to help the situation.

Care to provide a source or some statistics to back that up? And then provide fatalities/number of golf carts or golf cart miles driven in TV as opposed to other communities. I would think there are many more fatalities in car accidents, and the golf cart fatalities almost always occur when the cart meets a car.

[golfing eagles]

If I had a vote it would be to give out tickets to people obsessed with their phone while driving and to those who drive well below the speed limit who suddenly realize where the gas pedal is when someone attempts to pass them.

Absolutely 100% agree. On highways, more accidents are caused by slow drivers than by so called "speeders"

[CPD050]

As for the people advocating, don’t the police have anything better to do like investigating shootings and the like, well they do. Are you advocating that the police should just patrol those areas and leave the villages unprotected?
As for traffic patrols in the villages, it’s needed since so many golf cart NASCAR drivers have joined the ranks here and believe traffic laws don’t pertain to them. In my experience, the people who don’t want enforcement of laws are the ones who usually break the laws. If I get caught speeding, it’s my own fault. Don’t blame the police for your transgressions.

[CPD050]

Absolutely 100% agree. On highways, more accidents are caused by slow drivers than by so called "speeders"

I agree phone usage while driving is horrible but slow drivers in no way cause more accidents than speeders. Speeding is far more prevalent in accidents.

[CPD050]

I agree phone usage while driving is horrible but slow drivers in no way cause more accidents than speeders. Speeding is far more prevalent in accidents.


If you can’t react to a slow driver in front of you, you are either a distracted driver or driving way to fast.

[CPD050]

Absolutely 100% agree. On highways, more accidents are caused by slow drivers than by so called "speeders"

If you can’t react to a slow driver in front of you, you are either a distracted driver or driving way to fast.

[golfing eagles]

I agree phone usage while driving is horrible but slow drivers in no way cause more accidents than speeders. Speeding is far more prevalent in accidents.

Wrong

[dewilson58]

I heard the officer was assisting, not ticketing.



Any more rumors???

[rustyp]

I heard the officer was assisting, not ticketing.



Any more rumors???

YES - Golfing Eaglet was the Commissioner of the Florida State Police.

[CPD050]

I know there’s a florida highway patrol and a Florida department of law enforcement. Never heard of florida state police. Maybe they changed their name sometime in the past.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

Like a lot of shootings, armed robbery and assaults go on in Old Town, USA, correct?

You would be amazed at with felony arrests I made during a simple speeding stop.

Let them do their jobs….

[DAVES]

Not sure this one photo supports your claim…..did you interview anyone to see what was up? Perhaps they were drinking and driving in the golf cart? If you were a police officer, would you look the other way towards that offense?

I for one would welcome some enforcement on the golf cart paths. Too often I see people drinking and driving, running stop signs and just being too daring in the operation of golf carts.

Laws? As we read the posts it is the same pseudo names that post that they do not follow stuff like speed limits.
When, caught the post will be about all the others that did not get caught.
Law, they do not need to nor can they possibly catch everyone. It is self policing.
Catch one or two and others will hopefully turn the governor back down to where it is supposed to be.

[DAVES]

Your claim is based on what evidence? Just another exaggeration/complaint. If you spend any time on the cart baths south of 44, you will see a vast majority of golf carts and bikers totally ignoring stop signs. And most don't even bother to look around when crossing. Maybe patrolling will prevent an unnecessary injury or death.

Endless posts about the other person.
I used to take a safe driving course every 3-4 years. I would save you if I recall 10% on collision insurance and 20% on comprehensive. For people with violations on their license, usually going to have their license suspended or removed, they too could take this course and have points removed. It was truly an adventure in what some people, "think."
These courses were usually given by retired police officers. Wisdom from one your goal should not be to get even, to teach others how to drive BUT THAT EVERYONE GETS HOME SAFELY.
Endless posts about walkers, dogs, bikes etc. There is no such thing as an accident. Almost all accidents are avoidable. The goal is EVERYONE GETS HOME SAFELY.

[JoMar]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

Thought you got out more than that comment indicates?

[Papa_lecki]

As for traffic patrols in the villages, it’s needed since so many golf cart NASCAR drivers have joined the ranks here and believe traffic laws don’t pertain to them.

Hardly NASCAR - a golf cart will max out, consistent at 23 or 24 MPH (they could do 25 going down hill, but not sustainably). That’s 20%
None are doing 30.

That’s like going a little over 40 on a 35 road or 84 on the turnpike.

I would prefer the police spend time keeping the CARS at speed limit than a golf car going 23 MPH.

[Papa_lecki]

I heard the officer was assisting, not ticketing.



Any more rumors???

That’s what my landscaper told me his aunt’s neighbor told him.

[golfing eagles]

Thought you got out more than that comment indicates?

One never knows, do one? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[VApeople]

the golf cart fatalities almost always occur when the cart meets a car.

We moved here in the summer of 2016, when two ladies in a golf cart were killed at Colony Plaza when they were hit by a car.

Another person was killed in a golf cart trying to turn from Morse onto Rio Grande.

A few years later a guy was killed in a golf cart trying to cross 441 near the Villages Hospital.

Those are just the cases my old brain can remember

[CPD050]

Hardly NASCAR - a golf cart will max out, consistent at 23 or 24 MPH (they could do 25 going down hill, but not sustainably). That’s 20%
None are doing 30.

That’s like going a little over 40 on a 35 road or 84 on the turnpike.

I would prefer the police spend time keeping the CARS at speed limit than a golf car going 23 MPH.


Unfortunately you didn’t understand nascar was a joke. Anyways…Golf carts do not max out at 24mph. Many can go 35mph and more. I see them all the time flying by cars going full speed. Besides the drivers who refuse to use a signal, turn at the wrong spot, fail to safely merge at roundabouts , the list goes on and on.

[Normal]

Golf carts are about the same as bicycles, neither of which afford much protection when involved in an accident with a vehicle. You can’t really go against one group without enforcing the other. Going further, bicycles are permitted on roadways where golf carts aren’t. Neither require any registration etc. I don’t see bicycles or golf carts enduring any serious changes here in the Villages. As for tickets, it sure will be interesting to hear what a judge says about so called violations. Reality says issued tickets or fines won’t be enforced.

[MSchad]

They could bring in a small daily fortune if they just wanted to go after speeding (aka unregistered motor vehicle) golf carts on the main roads.
They could make a fortune if they went after speeders period, golf cart or car.

[justjim]

Care to provide a source or some statistics to back that up? And then provide fatalities/number of golf carts or golf cart miles driven in TV as opposed to other communities. I would think there are many more fatalities in car accidents, and the golf cart fatalities almost always occur when the cart meets a car.

You are correct most of the golf cart fatalities in TV have occurred when golf cart meets car. It is also correct that in TV itself there have been more fatalities associated with golf carts than with cars. Total accidents in within TV would go to cars but most of the car accidents do not end up with a fatality. My source is a recent Club meeting and a Sumter County Deputy Sheriff’s presentation. As I recall, since the beginning of The Villages, twenty was the number of golf cart fatalities. BTW, safety belts were highly recommended for your golf cart.

[Bill14564]

You are correct most of the golf cart fatalities in TV have occurred when golf cart meets car. It is also correct that in TV itself there have been more fatalities associated with golf carts than with cars. Total accidents in within TV would go to cars but most of the car accidents do not end up with a fatality. My source is a recent Club meeting and a Sumter County Deputy Sheriff’s presentation. As I recall, since the beginning of The Villages, twenty was the number of golf cart fatalities. BTW, safety belts were highly recommended for your golf cart.

I don't believe that either. There were two people killed on 466 in December, there was the crash on 44 just the other day, and there was the recent motorcycle crash. That makes four deaths in just six months. Could there possibly be fewer than 16 other deaths in the past 30 years?

Are you referring only to car accidents on roads with speed limits of 35mph or less and excluding accidents at intersections with roads having higher speed limits?

[fdpaq0580]

Wrong

And your evidence, Mr, Florida State Police Commissioner?

[golfing eagles]

And your evidence, Mr, Florida State Police Commissioner?

Posted about 6 or 8 sources from police departments and civil engineers on a similar thread about a month ago, I’m not going to do it again. However, just google “slow driving causing crashes “ and you can educate yourself

[CPD050]

And your evidence, Mr, Florida State Police Commissioner?

Again I ask, is there even a Florida State Police?
Never heard of it and a google search can’t find one.

[dewilson58]

You are correct most of the golf cart fatalities in TV have occurred when golf cart meets car. It is also correct that in TV itself there have been more fatalities associated with golf carts than with cars. Total accidents in within TV would go to cars but most of the car accidents do not end up with a fatality. My source is a recent Club meeting and a Sumter County Deputy Sheriff’s presentation. As I recall, since the beginning of The Villages, twenty was the number of golf cart fatalities. BTW, safety belts were highly recommended for your golf cart.

Jus from reading the news reports of cart fatalities........I don't remember any of the people were wearing safety belts. Not a guarantee...........but it doesn't hurt.

[dewilson58]

Again I ask, is there even a Florida State Police?
Never heard of it and a google search can’t find one.

probably won't get a reply sheldon.

[CPD050]

Posted about 6 or 8 sources from police departments and civil engineers on a similar thread about a month ago, I’m not going to do it again. However, just google “slow driving causing crashes “ and you can educate yourself

FYI the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration doesn’t even put slow driving as a contributing factor in any significant number of traffic accidents. Virtually unheard of by their numbers. The top reasons for accidents are Distracted driving (cell phones), speeding, DUI, lane usage and following to close. These are not in any particular order. Speeding DUI and no seat belt being leading contributors to fatal accidents.

[Bill14564]

FYI the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration doesn’t even put slow driving as a contributing factor in any significant number of traffic accidents. Virtually unheard of by their numbers. The top reasons for accidents are Distracted driving (cell phones), speeding, DUI, lane usage and following to close. These are not in any particular order. Speeding DUI and no seat belt being leading contributors to fatal accidents.

Technically, falling never hurt or killed anyone, it was the sudden stop at the end that caused the damage. Still, "falls" make it into the statistics.

A cow in the road doesn't cause an accident, it is the lane changing/lane usage that results in the accident.

Similarly, driving below the speed limit will likely never be entered into the statistics as the cause of the accident. What the slow vehicle does cause is unexpected behavior by those that try to avoid the obstructive driver. This lane change/lane usage activity *is* counted in the statistics.

[Woodbear]

do you know what violations they were citing?

Speeding?
Crossing the white line to pass?

They were on the cart path, I assumed a STOPtional sign violation. Not sure the cart could have gotten up to top speed

[justjim]

I don't believe that either. There were two people killed on 466 in December, there was the crash on 44 just the other day, and there was the recent motorcycle crash. That makes four deaths in just six months. Could there possibly be fewer than 16 other deaths in the past 30 years?

Are you referring only to car accidents on roads with speed limits of 35mph or less and excluding accidents at intersections with roads having higher speed limits?

Roundabouts within The Villages are much safer than the County roads 466, 466A State Route 44, US routes 27/441, etc. and their intersections, Of course, golf carts are not legally allowed to travel on any of those roads. Excluding where golf carts are not allowed, cars are safer within those boundaries. The actual boundaries of The Villages is subjective at best. The roundabouts make a difference for cars and I believe safety belts make a difference in golf carts. That’s the point.

[Woodbear]

Not sure this one photo supports your claim…..did you interview anyone to see what was up? Perhaps they were drinking and driving in the golf cart? If you were a police officer, would you look the other way towards that offense?

I for one would welcome some enforcement on the golf cart paths. Too often I see people drinking and driving, running stop signs and just being too daring in the operation of golf carts.

Anything is possible at 10 am

[Woodbear]

In my opinion, the speed traps are needed because we see a lot of cars exceeding the speed limit of 30 mph.

We go down there a lot because we like the MickeyLee golf course, the putting course, and the beautiful walking/biking trails in Lake Denham. A lot of cars and golf carts coming out of Citrus Grove seem to have a hard time pulling out onto Meggison because the traffic is so heavy and goes so fast.

A few weeks ago, I read that someone got t-boned pulling out of Citrus Grove.

With no roundabouts, Meggison is a straight run. As for the speed monitors, you get Leesburg/Lake on one end and Wildwood on the other

[golfing eagles]

With no roundabouts, Meggison is a straight run. As for the speed monitors, you get Lady Lake on one end and Wildwood on the other

Which would be true IF there weren't 8, count 'em 8 roundabouts between Brownwood and Citrus grove, as well as a traffic light at Warm springs Ave

[Normal]

Which would be true IF there weren't 8, count 'em 8 roundabouts between Brownwood and Citrus grove, as well as a traffic light at Warm springs Ave

Can both of you be somewhat correct? There are roundabouts between 44 and Sawgrass, but none exist after Sawgrass for the next several miles up to 470. The Wildwood and Sumter county police can only patrol up to the Homestead recreation center. The Leesburg and Lake county police can patrol the other half.

[Woodbear]

Which would be true IF there weren't 8, count 'em 8 roundabouts between Brownwood and Citrus grove, as well as a traffic light at Warm springs Ave

Not a single roundabout south of Sawgrass. I would count them if one was there.

[golfing eagles]

Not a single roundabout south of Sawgrass. I would count them if one was there.

I think I wrote BETWEEN BROWNWOOD AND CITRUS GROVE. The last one is at St. Catherines just northwest of Sawgrass, none south of there.

[BobnBev]

Nice dodge. Sounds like a bit of stolen valor on your part.

If (huge "if") you were the Commish, you were the kind that got hired out of a Ph.D. program and never actually worked a shift, much less years of graveyard shifts putting your butt in the driver's seat of a radio car. You know, that's the seat where YOU make all the decisions on how to handle dynamic, actively evolving and deadly situations that occur in seconds AND have to live with the suits that sit down in mahogany lined offices and spend hours pulling apart and critiquing each second that transpired and how YOU handled it - or didn't handle it.

Commercial is over, NCIS is back on, better hurry back to the living room.

Just a note here---FL does not have a State Police Dept. FL has a Highway Patrol. FL also has the FDLE - FL Department of Law Enforcement, that handles major crimes and assists municipal PD's. That's why they are called Highway Patrol Troopers, not Florida State Troopers. Did that clear things up?

[Pairadocs]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well.

Be safe out there

Hope it helps but been here so long now I've learned it is always so short lived it has no effect. HOWEVER, some effort is better than the NO EFFORT we've watched for years as more wanna-be Daytona drivers realize they are senior citizens now, so they find some way to get their carts to exceed the villages limit and put everyone, including themselves, in danger. It just has to stop, let's hope the police will continue to help.

[Pairadocs]

So the police were doing their job, then?

Yes ! Better late than the usual NEVER. Perhaps they'll even find time to at least stop the 60mph trucks and service vans on the Buena Vista speedway track ?

[Woodbear]

I think I wrote BETWEEN BROWNWOOD AND CITRUS GROVE. The last one is at St. Catherines just northwest of Sawgrass, none south of there.

Wrong again, the last roundabout going south is the entrance to Sawgrass that includes the Bexely Trail Bridge road.

[Dotneko]

I would like that safety rules board to show one more thing..
Slower carts and Bicyclists PLEASE pull off onto the side or shoulder and let the normal speed people pass. The frustration of the line of carts behind the turtles is palpable and THAT is what causes unsafe passing.
Get yourselves over and be polite.

[golfing eagles]

Wrong again, the last roundabout going south is the entrance to Sawgrass that includes the Bexely Trail Bridge road.

Exactly!! That is correct. Which means, AS I STATED, that there are 8 roundabouts between Brownwood and Citrus Grove on Meggison. This really isn't rocket science.

[golfing eagles]

The problem is that not everyone is familiar with the various law enforcement agencies, and your "joke" sounded too close to reality and many of us thought you were being serious. This has, I believe, caused a definite loss of credibility. In future, I suggest you adopt my law enforcement alias. I am Buzz Cory, Commander in Chief of the SPACE PATROL. It is not only a fib, but a Very Obvious fib. Tall tales can be fun, but they should quickly become obviously and utterly unbelievable.

OK, that's a fair statement. Upon review, the joke was a bit obtuse. But it did stir the pot for a while :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Worldseries27]

question - are some of you in front of your computers all day long with all the excessive postings you are doing on totv? You folks are in the villages - get out and enjoy our community and do something constructive rather than living indoors behind a keyboard.
they're doing exactly what they like to do best at this stage of their lives. It is a shame because 95% of the time they all provide invaluable information for all of us to benefit by, so here it goes.
Who will be the first or not to post one word.
Truce

[rustyp]

Question - are some of you in front of your computers all day long with all the excessive postings you are doing on TOTV? You folks are in The Villages - get out and enjoy our community and do something constructive rather than living indoors behind a keyboard.

they're doing exactly what they like to do best at this stage of their lives. It is a shame because 95% of the time they all provide invaluable information for all of us to benefit by, so here it goes.
Who will be the first or not to post one word.
Truce

AirBNB

[MDFlyer]

By far, around here, we have more people killed and injured by speeding golf carts than people getting shot. We need to have more enforcement of speeding by golf cart laws. Where are you going anyway in such a hurry? Slow down you are retired...........

[Joe Mack]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

Exactly. The number of shootings and armed robberies in the Villages is getting out of hand. 😉

[golfing eagles]

Exactly. The number of shootings and armed robberies in the Villages is getting out of hand. 😉

Of course not. But the point is that I’d rather prevent one shooting than 1,000 golf carts going 20.1 mph

[dewilson58]

Well I hope everyone slept well.

The whole commissioner statement Was A Joke.

Most understood it was a joke.
A few did not.

Take a deep breath.

Reality is, this is a public social board.....full of jokes, fake news, exaggerations, opinions, fiction with a few facts blended in for fun.

For all posts, readers need to use their brains.

Breathe people, breathe.

[gettingby]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

Sorry but this is just an ignorant response

[danglanzsr]

do you know what violations they were citing?

Speeding?
Crossing the white line to pass?
It is not illegal to cross white lines. White lines are used to designate lanes. It is illegal to cross yellow lines.

[Get real]

did you see the article about the FBI raiding the home of a 68 year old guy and found one marijuana plant growing in a bucket , he had to post a $5000.00 bail I think it was in Ocala , thats a good use of crime fighting

Well it was the FBLie.

[Veiragirl]

Don't you mean bicycles????? YES !!!! Did you ever get stuck when your behind the slew of bikers who take up the road and don't pull over to let you pass. They should have seperate bike riding paths FOR BIKES ONLY!!!

[Bill14564]

Sorry but this is just an ignorant response

In context, it seemed pretty reasonable.

[Bill14564]

It is not illegal to cross white lines. White lines are used to designate lanes. It is illegal to cross yellow lines.

Yellow lines also designate lanes. Dashed yellow lines are not illegal to cross. Dashed white lines are not illegal to cross. Solid white lines..... (I need to look that one up)

[ElDiabloJoe]

Oh, I’ll reply. The person I was responding to was acting like a 🦃 so made something up

Wow!! So you actually admit to stealing valor. You claimed to be a military veteran or first responder when in actuality you are not and were not?!?! That's actually a Federal crime as it pertains to the military. Just. Wow.

[OhioBuckeye]

Sounds like most of the comments here, by some of the wise comments they don’t approve of the police doing their jobs. Maybe they public want the police defunded. Not being a wise guy just a little confused!

[Get real]

A cow in the road doesn't cause an accident, it is the lane changing/lane usage that results in the accident.



What do you call a cow with no legs?


Ground beef.

You're welcome. :pepper2:

[dewilson58]

Wow!! So you actually admit to stealing valor. You claimed to be a military veteran or first responder when in actuality you are not and were not?!?! That's actually a Federal crime as it pertains to the military. Just. Wow.

:shocked::shocked:
From National Archives:
Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime.

[Bill14564]

Wow!! So you actually admit to stealing valor. You claimed to be a military veteran or first responder when in actuality you are not and were not?!?! That's actually a Federal crime as it pertains to the military. Just. Wow.

You may want to brush up on the law counselor.

[wawriwwawriw]

Where is that article, I would like to read it.

[Normal]

:shocked::shocked:
From National Archives:
Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime.

Oral bragging isn’t a crime, written claims are.

[dewilson58]

Oral bragging isn’t a crime, written claims are.

Read the law................written claims about serving is not a crime.

[Normal]

Read the law................written claims about serving is not a crime.

Written claims are prosecuted by the Federal Government if reported. In addition, media coverage recorded or taped can also be used. You need to do your research before your prevarication and plunge into mendacity. One liners don’t cut it in court.

[rsmurano]

Ahhh, someone who knows what it is like because they watch TV shows. Law enforcement is all encompassing. Yes, there are crimes like "shootings, armed robberies, assaults and the like," however there are two sides to that coin.

One side is the broken windows theory of policing. Google up James Q. Wilson for the details on that but the thumbnail is that if you address the small things, then they prevent big things.

On the other side of the law enforcement coin is safety. Many deaths occur due to traffic incidents. How do you lower the death rate from traffic incidents? You prevent or deter risky behavior. The riskiest? Speeding and drunk driving. How do you actually save lives? You write traffic tickets to deter risky behaviors.

You might want to go back to the living room, I heard "Hawaii 5-0" is starting. Before you go, tell me what you did for a career so I can second-guess and critique how it should actually be done based on my armchair quarterbacking.

I would say slow drivers cause more accidents than from drivers going faster than should be. We have more accidents here in the states going 70mph than the autobahn does at 200mph. I’ve been to Germany many many times and they are very strict on their driving laws where we aren’t. For example, most of us here in the states hate slow drivers in the fast (left) lane, in Germany, if you are in the left lane and you see a car approaching you many blocks back of you, you need you pull over. It would be so nice for every car, bike, golf cart driver/rider to adhere to this. Another law is if you have 5 (maybe it’s 7) or more vehicles behind you trying to get around you, you need to pull over and let them pass. How many times have we been the 10th car or golf cart behind a slow bike or car and they never pull over.
Back to car laws, you are not allowed to pass on the right. Which is common sense because the slow drivers should always be on the right. Another common sense law, no flashing of brights toward the car in front of you, because there should not be a slower driver in front of you.
Also, it is legal to go faster than the speed limit to pass someone, some states 15 or more mph faster.
IMO, slower drivers can cause more accidents than faster drivers

[ElDiabloJoe]

Just a note here---FL does not have a State Police Dept. FL has a Highway Patrol. FL also has the FDLE - FL Department of Law Enforcement, that handles major crimes and assists municipal PD's. That's why they are called Highway Patrol Troopers, not Florida State Troopers. Did that clear things up?

Regardless of agency nomenclature, he claimed to be something that he is not and essentially represented himself as a high ranking member of an historically honorable profession in order to bolster his case or give the impression that what he was stating had more weight than it might otherwise.

If one pretended to be a fake rank of a fake SEALs squad, it not very dissimilar.

[dewilson58]

Written claims are prosecuted by the Federal Government if reported. In addition, media coverage recorded or taped can also be used. You need to do your research before your prevarication and plunge into mendacity. One liners don’t cut it in court.

"Written claims".............ridiculous. That can relate to anything.

Educate yourself:

Isn’t it always a crime to lie about military service?
In general, no. While it may be morally reprehensible, it is usually not a crime. However, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)) makes it a crime for someone to claim they received certain medals to obtain money, property, or some other tangible benefit. The law only bars false claims about certain military awards, including the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and a few others; and ONLY when someone makes a false claim about them to gain money or some tangible benefit from a crime. Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime. However, our office can investigate other crimes as long as it involves forging, altering, or misusing records from NARA in some way.

[Worldseries27]

Nothing in tv takes place, including traffic enforcement, without the wizards of oz saying so.

[toeser]

You just got someone in trouble for doing their job.....

The Wildwood Police Department’s new golf cart is officially on “patrol.”

Officer David Perry of the police department said the golf cart will strictly be used for community outreach and offers a way in which to “engage with the public.”

Villagers are likely to see the new golf cart in use south of State Road 44 and in the Brownwood area.

However, he said the golf cart will not be used to catch speeders or for other more-traditional law enforcement purposes.

“We’ve really had a good reaction to to the new golf cart,” Perry said.

:gc:


Why broadcast that you won't be enforcing laws? There are some golf cart drivers out there that need a little fear.

[NoMoSno]

I would say slow drivers cause more accidents than from drivers going faster than should be. We have more accidents here in the states going 70mph than the autobahn does at 200mph. I’ve been to Germany many many times and they are very strict on their driving laws where we aren’t. For example, most of us here in the states hate slow drivers in the fast (left) lane, in Germany, if you are in the left lane and you see a car approaching you many blocks back of you, you need you pull over. It would be so nice for every car, bike, golf cart driver/rider to adhere to this. Another law is if you have 5 (maybe it’s 7) or more vehicles behind you trying to get around you, you need to pull over and let them pass. How many times have we been the 10th car or golf cart behind a slow bike or car and they never pull over.
Back to car laws, you are not allowed to pass on the right. Which is common sense because the slow drivers should always be on the right. Another common sense law, no flashing of brights toward the car in front of you, because there should not be a slower driver in front of you.
Also, it is legal to go faster than the speed limit to pass someone, some states 15 or more mph faster.
IMO, slower drivers can cause more accidents than faster drivers
It is not illegal to pass on the right in Florida:
can you pass on right in florida - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=can+you+pass+on+right+in+florida)

[CPD050]

I will leave the issue with the commissioner alone since he will never admit he made a mistake. Too full of himself I’m guessing. Adults acknowledge if they were wrong.
Anyways, Police should enforce traffic laws. They can do that and protect the community from shootings and the like simultaneously. Some replies imply those are mutually exclusive which is wrong. It has been proven that enforcement of traffic laws has a direct impact on traffic crashes. unfortunately, it appears there are too many golf cart accidents in the villages.
Police will not pull you over and write a ticket for going 20.1mph in a 20mph zone. Those that state so are truly ignorant.
I am not an expert on florida law but typically a solid white line delegates a lane of traffic where no lane changes are permitted. A broken white line is used to allow lane changes. This can be seen in vehicle round abouts.

[ElDiabloJoe]

:shocked::shocked:
From National Archives:
Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime.

There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.

[Normal]

"Written claims".............ridiculous. That can relate to anything.

Educate yourself:

Isn’t it always a crime to lie about military service?
In general, no. While it may be morally reprehensible, it is usually not a crime. However, the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 (Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)) makes it a crime for someone to claim they received certain medals to obtain money, property, or some other tangible benefit. The law only bars false claims about certain military awards, including the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, and a few others; and ONLY when someone makes a false claim about them to gain money or some tangible benefit from a crime. Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime. However, our office can investigate other crimes as long as it involves forging, altering, or misusing records from NARA in some way.


Ah, the one who would argue with the wall. The bright-line is anecdotal evidence for prosecution. It can be prosecuted if anecdotal evidence exists. Do try a couple years of criminal law or higher before relying on google for your uninformed cowboy moves.

[dewilson58]

Written claims are prosecuted by the Federal Government if reported. In addition, media coverage recorded or taped can also be used. You need to do your research before your prevarication and plunge into mendacity. One liners don’t cut it in court.

Could months ago, after I gave advice on ToTV.......I claimed "I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night". Hope I don't get reported. :jester::jester:

[dewilson58]

There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)

.

Yes............this is from your link: with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit,

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[Bill14564]

There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.

Did you not read the text at the link you posted??

...with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit...

[CPD050]

There was a Stolen Valor Act of 2005 and another in 2013. It is in fact a federal crime. For your review:

Just a moment... (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/258)

Now, this coming week is a VERY big deal in Washington D.C., it is Peace Officers' Memorial Week.

Having known more than one who has died so people like Golden Eagles can call me a turkey and my posts idiotic and so he can live his idyllic life chasing little white balls on huge swaths of damaged ecosystem requires little. Simply a bit of gratitude, a hint of humility and an apology for insinuating he shared the honor of those who risk all so his words could have more weight in his attempt to shut me up, as he claimed.

Dead horse beaten.


Thank you. Well written.
We will never forget those who have given all to protect this country.

[defrey12]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

And there are sooo many of those named crimes. As a professional driver for many years, I think MOST of these golf cart drivers need to be knocked down a peg…if not made to be licensed. FLAT OUT DANGEROUS!

[defrey12]

Parking on the grass?

Grass was given by God to be walked on, NOT parked on…

[mntlblok]

I know there’s a florida highway patrol and a Florida department of law enforcement. Never heard of florida state police. Maybe they changed their name sometime in the past.

Skink's buddy!

[Coffee Lover]

Thank you for your distorted and "polite" response. As far as you are concerned, I was Commissioner of the Florida State Police.

And pigs fly. Dr, right?

[rustyp]

Grass was given by God to be walked on, NOT parked on…

And the second commandment was thou shall not inhale the grass.

[Joe Mack]

Of course not. But the point is that I’d rather prevent one shooting than 1,000 golf carts going 20.1 mph
How would you do that?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Ahhh, someone who knows what it is like because they watch TV shows. Law enforcement is all encompassing. Yes, there are crimes like "shootings, armed robberies, assaults and the like," however there are two sides to that coin.

One side is the broken windows theory of policing. Google up James Q. Wilson for the details on that but the thumbnail is that if you address the small things, then they prevent big things.

On the other side of the law enforcement coin is safety. Many deaths occur due to traffic incidents. How do you lower the death rate from traffic incidents? You prevent or deter risky behavior. The riskiest? Speeding and drunk driving. How do you actually save lives? You write traffic tickets to deter risky behaviors.

You might want to go back to the living room, I heard "Hawaii 5-0" is starting. Before you go, tell me what you did for a career so I can second-guess and critique how it should actually be done based on my armchair quarterbacking.

:BigApplause::bowdown::bigbow::clap2:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Sounds like most of the comments here, by some of the wise comments they don’t approve of the police doing their jobs. Maybe they public want the police defunded. Not being a wise guy just a little confused!

Nah, just a couple of trolls who want to stir the pot on purpose. The rest of us are happy to see the Police out and about, meeting folks in the area, getting to know their community. The rest of us, in fact, really did read and absorb that these officers are not out writing tickets but instead are providing "general presence" community service.

By being seen, they are already deterring violators. Just the fact that they're there and visible. While they're there and visible, they're also reaching out to meet the public in their department's new Police cart.

I think it's awesome.

[dewilson58]

By being seen, they are already deterring violators. Just the fact that they're there and visible. While they're there and visible, they're also reaching out to meet the public in their department's new Police cart.

I think it's awesome.

I do too.

I remember officers walking the beat at town squares. I can't remember the last time I saw them (out of their cars) in LSL or BW outside a special event.

[GATORBILL66]

Wildwood Police were out Friday in the Sawgrass areas giving out tickets for golf cart violations. I got a bit concerned as I just cut that silly Do Not Remove tag from my mattress. Meggison has its fair share of speed traps as well.

Be safe out there

It's about time!

[Vermilion Villager]

I was Commissioner of the Florida State Police.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Yeah....sure you were. And I was Batman!!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[cjrjck]

Just curious how most golf car drivers know how fast they or any other golf cart driver is going. My cart doesn't have a speedometer. Since my cart will often get caught and even passed by other carts even when I have the pedal to the metal, I assume it is not that fast. But judging the speed in my cart is like judging the speed of my bicycle. It's just a wild guess. Phone apps aren't precise at lower speeds. They are like those cheap blood pressure gauges. Hit and miss.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Just curious how most golf car drivers know how fast they or any other golf cart driver is going. My cart doesn't have a speedometer. Since my cart will often get caught and even passed by other carts even when I have the pedal to the metal, I assume it is not that fast. But judging the speed in my cart is like judging the speed of my bicycle. It's just a wild guess. Phone apps aren't precise at lower speeds. They are like those cheap blood pressure gauges. Hit and miss.

Golf carts that are set appropriately can't go over 20mph. Some can only go 17 or 18, those are mostly rental carts from the Villages Golf Car store. The maximum -legal- speed for a golf cart around here is 19.8mph, and that's generally the fastest they're set to run.

So if you know your cart came from the store, brand new, and is in compliance, then your golf cart won't go faster than 19.8. If someone is passing you, then they're speeding. The speed limit in /most/ of the residential parts of the Villages is 20mph. In some areas it's only 15mph (like the posted speed limit at the Paradise Rec center area from the baseball diamond to the church). In some areas it's 25 (like most of the rest of the Historic Section). Golf cart path speed limit is 20 with few, posted exceptions.

If your cart is second-hand, you can find our your top speed by simply using a GPS on your cell phone. Pick a destination that requires you to go on a straight-away long enough to maintain maximum speed for a couple of seconds. Then do that, and take a look at the GPS. It'll tell you exactly how fast you're going.

A GPS can be used as a speedometer if you need to know, but it's a battery-sucker, so I wouldn't recommend using it regularly.

[Bill14564]

Just curious how most golf car drivers know how fast they or any other golf cart driver is going. My cart doesn't have a speedometer. Since my cart will often get caught and even passed by other carts even when I have the pedal to the metal, I assume it is not that fast. But judging the speed in my cart is like judging the speed of my bicycle. It's just a wild guess. Phone apps aren't precise at lower speeds. They are like those cheap blood pressure gauges. Hit and miss.

Do you have a source for the claim of the lack of accuracy of the phone's GPS at lower speeds? I would like to see the math behind that.

I have a Garmin GPS on one of my carts and another brand (don't recall which) of GPS spedometer on the other. I have compared them to each other and to the Waze app on my phone. Either all three are accurate or all three are inaccurate in exactly the same amount. I'm going to believe that all three are accurate.

[Vermilion Villager]

Golf carts that are set appropriately can't go over 20mph. Some can only go 17 or 18, those are mostly rental carts from the Villages Golf Car store. The maximum -legal- speed for a golf cart around here is 19.8mph, and that's generally the fastest they're set to run.

So if you know your cart came from the store, brand new, and is in compliance, then your golf cart won't go faster than 19.8. If someone is passing you, then they're speeding. The speed limit in /most/ of the residential parts of the Villages is 20mph. In some areas it's only 15mph (like the posted speed limit at the Paradise Rec center area from the baseball diamond to the church). In some areas it's 25 (like most of the rest of the Historic Section). Golf cart path speed limit is 20 with few, posted exceptions.

If your cart is second-hand, you can find our your top speed by simply using a GPS on your cell phone. Pick a destination that requires you to go on a straight-away long enough to maintain maximum speed for a couple of seconds. Then do that, and take a look at the GPS. It'll tell you exactly how fast you're going.

A GPS can be used as a speedometer if you need to know, but it's a battery-sucker, so I wouldn't recommend using it regularly.
Not really that simple. Most golf carts in the villages are "LSV" or low speed vehicles. They have what most people refer to as "the villages package" on them which is turn signals lights horn seatbelts…Florida laws differentiate between golf carts and LSV's. Florida statute allows those to be operated on streets up to 25 miles an hour under specific conditions. From my experience I'd say at least 50% of the golf carts in the villages can go 25 miles an hour

[buster21]

Hardly NASCAR - a golf cart will max out, consistent at 23 or 24 MPH (they could do 25 going down hill, but not sustainably). That’s 20%
None are doing 30.

That’s like going a little over 40 on a 35 road or 84 on the turnpike.

I would prefer the police spend time keeping the CARS at speed limit than a golf car going 23 MPH.
As a pedestrian walking 3MPH I deserve to be safe on the MMP. So slow down!

[waterflower]

They are corporate security guards.Employees of their corporation.

[Vermilion Villager]

Do you have a source for the claim of the lack of accuracy of the phone's GPS at lower speeds? I would like to see the math behind that.

I have a Garmin GPS on one of my carts and another brand (don't recall which) of GPS spedometer on the other. I have compared them to each other and to the Waze app on my phone. Either all three are accurate or all three are inaccurate in exactly the same amount. I'm going to believe that all three are accurate.
The quote you were replying to is actually correct. The "GPS" in your phone is actually derived from cell towers and not receiving a GPS tone from the satellites orbiting the Earth like a true GPS receiver is. This is why you do not get GPS coordinates on your phone when you're in airplane mode, and why you cannot get directions if you turn off the cellular data on your phone. As you move especially in slower movements it is hard for the towers to accurately track (PING) you because you are not moving very fast in relation to them. This is why GPS on your phone is less accurate at slower speeds.

[rustyp]

Not really that simple. Most golf carts in the villages are "LSV" or low speed vehicles. They have what most people refer to as "the villages package" on them which is turn signals lights horn seatbelts…Florida laws differentiate between golf carts and LSV's. Florida statute allows those to be operated on streets up to 25 miles an hour under specific conditions. From my experience I'd say at least 50% of the golf carts in the villages can go 25 miles an hour

Wrong LSV's also have VIN numbers. There are also other criteria I believe like dual braking system and something to do with wind sheild configuration - I can't remember. Google is your friend. Going over 20 mph does not make a cart a LSV. It makes it an illegal golf cart and non registered vehicle.

[BigSteph]

I was reading this thread and just wondered why you people are so nasty to each other.

I imagine you are more alike than different -- of a similar age, have similar financial resources to afford the Villages, probably play the same courses.

I do watch police shows.





Nice dodge. Sounds like a bit of stolen valor on your part.

If (huge "if") you were the Commish, you were the kind that got hired out of a Ph.D. program and never actually worked a shift, much less years of graveyard shifts putting your butt in the driver's seat of a radio car. You know, that's the seat where YOU make all the decisions on how to handle dynamic, actively evolving and deadly situations that occur in seconds AND have to live with the suits that sit down in mahogany lined offices and spend hours pulling apart and critiquing each second that transpired and how YOU handled it - or didn't handle it.

Commercial is over, NCIS is back on, better hurry back to the living room.

[Bill14564]

The quote you were replying to is actually correct. The "GPS" in your phone is actually derived from cell towers and not receiving a GPS tone from the satellites orbiting the Earth like a true GPS receiver is. This is why you do not get GPS coordinates on your phone when you're in airplane mode, and why you cannot get directions if you turn off the cellular data on your phone. As you move especially in slower movements it is hard for the towers to accurately track (PING) you because you are not moving very fast in relation to them. This is why GPS on your phone is less accurate at slower speeds.

That is not correct.

The iphone DOES contain a GPS receiver. The iphone ALSO contains software to determine location from cell towers and wifi signals when the GPS signal is not available (indoors).

You do not get GPS coordinates in airplane mode because airplane mode turns off the radios (cell, wifi, bluetooth, gps) in the phone. No radio, no ability to receive coordinates. (EDIT: this might not be completely accurate. The GPS receiver may still be active but without cell data to retrieve a map or report a location the GPS coordinates are of little use)

You do not get direction information when your cell service (AND wifi service) is turned off (or unavailable) because your phone cannot get the map data to plot where you are. The phone still knows your location, it just can't show you where you are on a map.

Don't take my word for it, look it up.

[Mazjaz]

Why now…after most of the crazy snowbird cart drivers have left???? I don’t see nearly as much stupid stuff once the snowbirds have left.

[Boilerman]

The quote you were replying to is actually correct. The "GPS" in your phone is actually derived from cell towers and not receiving a GPS tone from the satellites orbiting the Earth like a true GPS receiver is. This is why you do not get GPS coordinates on your phone when you're in airplane mode, and why you cannot get directions if you turn off the cellular data on your phone. As you move especially in slower movements it is hard for the towers to accurately track (PING) you because you are not moving very fast in relation to them. This is why GPS on your phone is less accurate at low speeds.
Not true. Most all smartphones today have a GPS chip that receives and processes the GPS satellite signals. Most phones use GPS along with cell tower signals to provide positioning and speed data. The reason your navigation doesn’t work in airplane mode is because all your maps are internet based and without access to those maps you can’t navigate. Even at low speeds, your location and speed calculated by your phone is very accurate.

[cliff02]

Good for them ,they don’t do this randomly. It was brought to their attention , I’m glad to see them calm down some of the reckless driving habits in the carts. bashing the police is NOT the answer. Try just following the laws, it’s not so hard.

[cjrjck]

That is not correct.

You do not get GPS coordinates in airplane mode because airplane mode turns off the radios (cell, wifi, bluetooth, gps) in the phone. No radio, no ability to receive coordinates. (EDIT: this might not be completely accurate. The GPS receiver may still be active but without cell data to retrieve a map or report a location the GPS coordinates are of little use)

You do not get direction information when your cell service (AND wifi service) is turned off (or unavailable) because your phone cannot get the map data to plot where you are. The phone still knows your location, it just can't show you where you are on a map.

Don't take my word for it, look it up.

The GPS function on most newer smart phones remains on even in Airplane Mode. As long as the phone is able to "see" the satellites its GPS can function. And many phones will store the last map generated while you were still connected to a cell tower or wifi in its cache and use that to show your tracking. The big hurdle is actually being able to "see" the satellites while in the airplane. Sitting by a window will often make it work.

[Altavia]

The quote you were replying to is actually correct. The "GPS" in your phone is actually derived from cell towers and not receiving a GPS tone from the satellites orbiting the Earth like a true GPS receiver is. This is why you do not get GPS coordinates on your phone when you're in airplane mode, and why you cannot get directions if you turn off the cellular data on your phone. As you move especially in slower movements it is hard for the towers to accurately track (PING) you because you are not moving very fast in relation to them. This is why GPS on your phone is less accurate at slower speeds.

How To Find Your GPS Coordinates On The IPhone



How To Find Your GPS Coordinates on the iPhone (https://www.alphr.com/find-gps-coordinates-iphone/)

[fdpaq0580]

I was reading this thread and just wondered why you people are so nasty to each other.

I imagine you are more alike than different -- of a similar age, have similar financial resources to afford the Villages, probably play the same courses.

I do watch police shows.

Like a sitcom on TV, when everyone plays nice and there are no disagreements or misunderstandings it's boring. It's when things go off the rails that it gets fun and interesting. Arguments are not necessarily mean spirited, like mental arm wrestling. But not being mean spirited doesn't mean it is without emotional content.

[Vermilion Villager]

Wrong LSV's also have VIN numbers. There are also other criteria I believe like dual braking system and something to do with wind sheild configuration - I can't remember. Google is your friend. Going over 20 mph does not make a cart a LSV. It makes it an illegal golf cart and non registered vehicle.
As you can see by the… In my post I was saying that my list of configurations was not all inclusive.
This has become a more interesting topic of golf cart speeds. I just got off the phone with a Sumter County Sheriff who was trying to tell me that the maximum speed of golf cart can legally go....anywhere in TV is 15 miles an hour?!?!?!? He obviously did not know the rules… And he is a deputy sheriff!
I looked up the statutes and essentially a golf cart is a vehicle (that I won't make a description because you know what it is) but according to the statues has a maximum speed of 20 miles an hour. Under Florida law and LSV is defined as a golf cart that can go over 20 miles an hour but less than 25 miles an hour. According to Florida law any golf cart that is capable of going over 20 miles an hour is no longer a golf cart but is an LSV. Under Florida law LSV's have to have several safety items… And those items are what people refer to as the villages package. FYI all golf carts sold after a certain date (2012?) have a manufactures certificate of origin and have VIN numbers. One thing they do not have is a windshield wiper. You also have to have the LSV registered with Florida. Other than the windshield wiper and the registering with the state of Florida… Which is fairly painless, I have everything on my golf cart that would enable it to be an LSV. That opens up some possibilities like going from Marsh Bend to get south of warm Springs. If I had a legal LSV I could legally use the roundabout because the speed at the roundabout is 20 miles an hour.....FREEDOM!!!!!!:crap2:

[dewilson58]

Why now…after most of the crazy snowbird cart drivers have left???? I don’t see nearly as much stupid stuff once the snowbirds have left.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[NoMoSno]

...

[golfing eagles]

Sorry but this is just an ignorant response

Yes, yours is.

[golfing eagles]

Wow!! So you actually admit to stealing valor. You claimed to be a military veteran or first responder when in actuality you are not and were not?!?! That's actually a Federal crime as it pertains to the military. Just. Wow.

Interesting. Please point out where I posted I was a military veteran. But I was a first responder, even though I didn't post that either.

[JoMar]

:shrug::shrug::shrug:One never knows, do one? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:shrug::shrug::shrug:

[Worldseries27]

i do too.

I remember officers walking the beat at town squares. I can't remember the last time i saw them (out of their cars) in lsl or bw outside a special event.
the wheels are not being greased.

[fdpaq0580]

the wheels are not being greased.

Be comforted knowing that there are a lot of gun carriers at the Squares and in the bars that will, I'm sure, be happy and willing to cover for the missing police.

[Indydealmaker]

Yes, by all means. Forget about shootings, armed robbery, assaults and the like-----let's go find golf carts going 20.1 mph.

It's all about "Broken Windows" Contempt for law and order does not begin with serious crime.

[Pegasusprt]

Oh Karen

[CPD050]

Interesting. Please point out where I posted I was a military veteran. But I was a first responder, even though I didn't post that either.

Oh please, you did Mr. Commissioner. When you stated you were a law enforcement commissioner. You have lost all the debates as well as your integrity by continuing to lie. Nobody can believe a word you type.
Get over yourself lol

[golfing eagles]

And pigs fly. Dr, right?

Hence the "as far as you are concerned" preface.

[golfing eagles]

How would you do that?

Not by hunting golf carts going 20.1

[golfing eagles]

Oh please, you did Mr. Commissioner. When you stated you were a law enforcement commissioner. You have lost all the debates as well as your integrity by continuing to lie. Nobody can believe a word you type.
Get over yourself lol

Whatever.

[traut0012@yahoo.com]

Again I ask, is there even a Florida State Police?
Never heard of it and a google search can’t find one.

Google actually cites the Florida Highway Patrol is our state police agency

[golfing eagles]

Google actually cites the Florida Highway Patrol is our state police agency

Be smart---don't get involved in this one, the nutjobs and other ignorant kooks have dominated the thread.

[CPD050]

Not by hunting golf carts going 20.1

Nobody is hunting for 20.1 mph. You’re may be delusional to think that. Time to come up with a new idea.

[terramuggus]

Crime fighting needs to be a top priority. The addition of golf carts to assist in crime fighting in the Villages is welcome.

Five years from now, we will have TV shows like NCIS The Villages and SWAT Villages style. Maybe even Villages 5-O!


I can't wait for Housewives of The Villages

The year-end wrap up shows are gonna be doozies!

[justjim]

I can't wait for Housewives of The Villages

The year-end wrap up shows are gonna be doozies!

You deserve this Thread’s blue ribbon IMHO.

[CPD050]

Google actually cites the Florida Highway Patrol is our state police agency

To quickly catch you up to speed, golfing eagles stated he was a former commissioner for the Florida State Police. I asked the question if that agency even existed since I could not find one anywhere. I confronted him on the issue and he admitted it was a lie.

I was offended by someone stating they were prior law enforcement when they were not. He was given numerous opportunities to just to apologize for his mistake as an adult would do so we could move on but instead he continues to try to defend his lie.

Hope that brief synopsis gets you up to speed.

[Bill14564]

To quickly catch you up to speed, golfing eagles stated he was a former commissioner for the Florida State Police. I asked the question if that agency even existed since I could not find one anywhere. I confronted him on the issue and he admitted it was a lie.

I was offended by someone stating they were prior law enforcement when they were not. He was given numerous opportunities to just to apologize for his mistake as an adult would do so we could move on but instead he continues to try to defend his lie.

Hope that brief synopsis gets you up to speed.

Many of us recognized the response as being facetious; others are having problems comprehending that

[Normal]

I can't wait for Housewives of The Villages

The year-end wrap up shows are gonna be doozies!

You are trying to generate nightmares, aren’t you? I guess we could view those under thrillers on Netflix?

[golfing eagles]

Many of us recognized the response as being facetious; others are having problems comprehending that

Thank you

[CPD050]

Many of us recognized the response as being facetious; others are having problems comprehending that

Many of us didn’t and didn’t consider it a joke. Again, just a simple heck sorry I shouldn’t have said that in an open forum would have ended it there. Instead, his continuation of excuses. Oh well….

[dewilson58]

To quickly catch .

Jus so you know, there is a poster on this site with the name TVMayor.

TV does not have a Mayor.

But don't get bent out of shape on this one................

We all know it's a joke, we all have a sense of humor.

:gc:

[BobnBev]

As you can see by the… In my post I was saying that my list of configurations was not all inclusive.
This has become a more interesting topic of golf cart speeds. I just got off the phone with a Sumter County Sheriff who was trying to tell me that the maximum speed of golf cart can legally go....anywhere in TV is 15 miles an hour?!?!?!? He obviously did not know the rules… And he is a deputy sheriff!
I looked up the statutes and essentially a golf cart is a vehicle (that I won't make a description because you know what it is) but according to the statues has a maximum speed of 20 miles an hour. Under Florida law and LSV is defined as a golf cart that can go over 20 miles an hour but less than 25 miles an hour. According to Florida law any golf cart that is capable of going over 20 miles an hour is no longer a golf cart but is an LSV. Under Florida law LSV's have to have several safety items… And those items are what people refer to as the villages package. FYI all golf carts sold after a certain date (2012?) have a manufactures certificate of origin and have VIN numbers. One thing they do not have is a windshield wiper. You also have to have the LSV registered with Florida. Other than the windshield wiper and the registering with the state of Florida… Which is fairly painless, I have everything on my golf cart that would enable it to be an LSV. That opens up some possibilities like going from Marsh Bend to get south of warm Springs. If I had a legal LSV I could legally use the roundabout because the speed at the roundabout is 20 miles an hour.....FREEDOM!!!!!!:crap2:

LSV's must be electric, not gasoline.

[dewilson58]

LSV's must be electric, not gasoline.

Is that true???...............I guess I never noticed. Thanks.

[Nana2Teddy]

Iphones, tablets, multitasking... some of us don't yet need afternoon naps

Exactly! Even though I never post and only occasionally comment, I do read the posts and comments only on my iPhone, and currently while sitting at McAlister’s deli in Brownwood waiting for my lunch. You guys are just so very entertaining, and often even informative. :)

[golfing eagles]

Many of us didn’t and didn’t consider it a joke. Again, just a simple heck sorry I shouldn’t have said that in an open forum would have ended it there. Instead, his continuation of excuses. Oh well….

Why would I apologize? I meant it as a joke, and whether or not every single person “got it” is not my problem. You want an apology anyway? Ok, here it is: I’m sorry you didn’t understand it

[Vermilion Villager]

Be comforted knowing that there are a lot of gun carriers at the Squares and in the bars that will, I'm sure, be happy and willing to cover for the missing police.
Ahhh yes.....a bunch of drunk senior citizens carrying guns about the time the Viagra kicks in thinking they're The Law.....what could possibly go wrong???? :police::boxing2::shocked::1rotfl:

[ElDiabloJoe]

Interesting. Please point out where I posted I was a military veteran. But I was a first responder, even though I didn't post that either.

Man, I would love to know the truth behind that claim

I'm afraid neighborhood watch or even the volunteer ambulance company in your podunk hometown, while *technically* a first responder, is a far cry from running towards the gunfire everyone else is running from.

It certainly does not qualify you to tell those of us that did so (or anyone else) how to conduct the business end of inner city (read as: violent, dynamic, unpredictable) law enforcement or the benefits (or lack of) of actual traffic enforcement.

Sure glad you have a comfy armchair, it seems to get a lot of use. Did you used to quarterback also?

[Worldseries27]

be comforted knowing that there are a lot of gun carriers at the squares and in the bars that will, i'm sure, be happy and willing to cover for the missing police.
i've been practicing so i'll be ready

[fdpaq0580]

LSV's must be electric, not gasoline.

How do you get that? Easy to soup up a gas motor, I should think.

[fdpaq0580]

i've been practicing so i'll be ready

GREAT! We're all counting on you!

My HERO!

[golfing eagles]

Man, I would love to know the truth behind that claim

I'm afraid neighborhood watch or even the volunteer ambulance company in your podunk hometown, while *technically* a first responder, is a far cry from running towards the gunfire everyone else is running from.

It certainly does not qualify you to tell those of us that did so (or anyone else) how to conduct the business end of inner city (read as: violent, dynamic, unpredictable) law enforcement or the benefits (or lack of) of actual traffic enforcement.

Sure glad you have a comfy armchair, it seems to get a lot of use. Did you used to quarterback also?

YOU used the term “first responder “. That encompasses many more than just the police. Are you denigrating firefighters who runs into a burning building that everyone else is running away from because they are not getting shot at?

BTW, my “podunk” town was New York City

[CPD050]

Why would I apologize? I meant it as a joke, and whether or not every single person “got it” is not my problem. You want an apology anyway? Ok, here it is: I’m sorry you didn’t understand it

And so it continues with you and your comments. I still feel sorry for you. I’m sure you can never be in the wrong. Sad excuses.

[golfing eagles]

And so it continues with you and your comments. I still feel sorry for you. I’m sure you can never be in the wrong. Sad excuses.

I’m sorry for you, not comprehending the difference between an explanation and an excuse

[jimjamuser]

Almost as good as spending tens of thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of police time to find golf carts going 20.1 mph?????

Also, I doubt that those *****s that want police out to catch speeding golf carts have never exceeded 19.9.
Golf cart especially the gas types have a high center of gravity and relatively high wheels. Allowing them to go over 20 MPH is inviting wrecks, collisions, overturned vehicles, and driver and passenger DEATHS. It is just a matter of numbers - I wish the Police could say what % of golf carts have their governors JACKED-UP. I would guess that it is around 30% just going by the excessively high speed that I observe going by my house.
.........About 60 or 70% of the drivers are content to cruise along at 15 to 20 MPH. But then there are the 30% crowd that are going 25 to 35 MPH. That is just having ZERO concern for their fellow man. You would think that The Villagers would be above that JUVENILE BEHAVIOR........but some seem to love wallowing in the glory of owning a tampered-with Golf Cart governor.

[CPD050]

YOU used the term “first responder “. That encompasses many more than just the police. Are you denigrating firefighters who runs into a burning building that everyone else is running away from because they are not getting shot at?

BTW, my “podunk” town was New York City

ElDiabloJoe never denigrated fireman. Don’t know how you could ever get that from his posts. As for you being a first responder yourself, it’s impossible to believe it or anything you post.

[dewilson58]

..but some seem to love wallowing in the glory of owning a tampered-with Golf Cart governor.

My cart was never tampered-with, The Villages set the speed and I can fly at 23 mph with a slight downhill.......wind at my back doesn't hurt.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[golfing eagles]

ElDiabloJoe never denigrated fireman. Don’t know how you could ever get that from his posts. As for you being a first responder yourself, it’s impossible to believe it or anything you post.

Like I care.

[Bill14564]

LSV's must be electric, not gasoline.

WHAT?!! Where in the world did you hear that?!

[Bill14564]

Many of us didn’t and didn’t consider it a joke. Again, just a simple heck sorry I shouldn’t have said that in an open forum would have ended it there. Instead, his continuation of excuses. Oh well….

If you couldn’t understand that from the context in which it appeared then perhaps Internet forums are not for you.

[fdpaq0580]

If you couldn’t understand that from the context in which it appeared then perhaps Internet forums are not for you.

I'm very familiar with GE posting style. But, that claim was, imho, stated as if he meant it. I like a joke and a tall tale, but this didn't seem like one. He was mad at a poste and wanted to "shut him up" and decided (apparently) that coming off as an expert would do the trick. Didn't go as planned.

[golfing eagles]

I'm very familiar with GE posting style. But, that claim was, imho, stated as if he meant it. I like a joke and a tall tale, but this didn't seem like one. He was mad at a poste and wanted to "shut him up" and decided (apparently) that coming off as an expert would do the trick. Didn't go as planned.

Ok, that’s a pretty fair assessment, except for the “didn’t come off as planned “ part. I couldn’t anticipate how dense some people are

[rustyp]

Ok, that’s a pretty fair assessment, except for the “didn’t come off as planned “ part. I couldn’t anticipate how dense some people are

No kidding - so what - touche

[golfing eagles]

No kidding - so what - touche

exactly! However, it appears some people are like a dog with a bone.

[rustyp]

exactly! However, it appears some people are like a dog with a bone.

That is a cool idiom. One of my favorites has something to do with glass houses.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Ok, that’s a pretty fair assessment, except for the “didn’t come off as planned “ part. I couldn’t anticipate how dense some people are

Well, if by dense you mean I've been a Mensa member for two decades, then perhaps your definition of dense should be reevaluated with reflection toward one's self. I didn't just google Broken Windows, I read and analyzed the text in grad school. You like to call me idiotic and dense, but I assure you, I am neither. Resorting to name calling is usually the last attack tool of the cerebrally lacking.

[golfing eagles]

Well, if by dense you mean I've been a Mensa member for two decades, then perhaps your definition of dense should be reevaluated with reflection toward one's self. You like to call me idiotic and dense, but I assure you, I am neither. Resorting to name calling is usually the last attack tool of the cerebrally lacking.

Yep, that must be it

[dewilson58]

Hey, there is a fairly good golf tournament on right now.


:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[kcrazorbackfan]

Be smart---don't get involved in this one, the nutjobs and other ignorant kooks have dominated the thread.

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black…..

[golfing eagles]

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black…..

Really??? After all these years?

[Number 10 GI]

By far, around here, we have more people killed and injured by speeding golf carts than people getting shot. We need to have more enforcement of speeding by golf cart laws. Where are you going anyway in such a hurry? Slow down you are retired...........

I've been here nearly 5 years and the fatal cart accidents I read about were cart vs car/truck.

[JMintzer]

Either you didn't get it, OR you didn't get it.

I'm betting he didn't get it...

[JMintzer]

Please explain what I “Didn’t Get”
You lied about being a retired law enforcement officer, be it a non existent organization.
Kind of like if you stated you were a veteran but never served our great country.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WiltedFragrantBovine-size_restricted.gif

[JMintzer]

Sir, if your sole purpose was to shut someone up then you should just state that. when you state that you are prior law enforcement and you are not, that is called a lie. You should find your humility and admit you made a serious mistake.

Are you new to the internet?

[JMintzer]

Very dumb response

Unfortunately (or, fortunately...) no one know to which post you are responding...

[JMintzer]

Wow!! So you actually admit to stealing valor. You claimed to be a military veteran or first responder when in actuality you are not and were not?!?! That's actually a Federal crime as it pertains to the military. Just. Wow.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

:shocked::shocked:
From National Archives:
Someone falsely claiming military service to brag or impress others is not a crime.

But what if they do it to make a joke?

[JMintzer]

Grass was given by God to be walked on, NOT parked on…

Not according to Steppenwolf...

https://youtu.be/7Q6sUP4NHVs

[dewilson58]

But what if they do it to make a joke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0wBtc8_yE

[JMintzer]

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Yeah....sure you were. And I was Batman!!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Which one? West, Keaton, Clooney, Kilmer, Bale, Affleck or the Twilight twink?

[Marsha11]

Up in Rio Grande our street which is normally no one is now 4.5 carts per minute the nev

[MisterPratt]

Glad they are going after golf cars. 👏👏👏👏

[JMintzer]

Why now…after most of the crazy snowbird cart drivers have left???? I don’t see nearly as much stupid stuff once the snowbirds have left.

As soon as global warming enters the building, this thread is toast...

[Marsha11]

Up in Rio Grande our street was normal, no one is now. Sumter police checked our street for people only drive through stop sign in front of my house now there is no sumter anything no marion.
Now 4.5 carts per minute the come this way to find Spanish springs and golf. Everyone holding there gps phone. Don't stop and or return. I have seen too many cars and cart

[JMintzer]

Nobody is hunting for 20.1 mph. You’re may be delusional to think that. Time to come up with a new idea.

No, delusional is to accuse someone of "Stolen Valor" over an obvious joke...

[JMintzer]

To quickly catch you up to speed, golfing eagles stated he was a former commissioner for the Florida State Police. I asked the question if that agency even existed since I could not find one anywhere. I confronted him on the issue and he admitted it was a lie.

I was offended by someone stating they were prior law enforcement when they were not. He was given numerous opportunities to just to apologize for his mistake as an adult would do so we could move on but instead he continues to try to defend his lie.

Hope that brief synopsis gets you up to speed.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

Jus so you know, there is a poster on this site with the name TVMayor.

TV does not have a Mayor.

But don't get bent out of shape on this one................

We all know it's a joke, we all have a sense of humor.

:gc:

And I have it on good authority that the "OBB" is neither an Orange Blossom, nor a Baby...

And when did TV bestow the title of "Kahuna"?

[JMintzer]

Ahhh yes.....a bunch of drunk senior citizens carrying guns about the time the Viagra kicks in thinking they're The Law.....what could possibly go wrong???? :police::boxing2::shocked::1rotfl:

Yeah., that's a common occurrence... Said no one ever...

[CPD050]

Are you new to the internet?

No. What does your question have to do with my statement. There is no correlation.

[dewilson58]

Yeah.,

There is a lot of _________________, well I'm not sure what in this thread.

Welcome to the party.

[JMintzer]

ElDiabloJoe never denigrated fireman. Don’t know how you could ever get that from his posts. As for you being a first responder yourself, it’s impossible to believe it or anything you post.

https://weberbawl.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/high-horse.jpg

[CPD050]

No, delusional is to accuse someone of "Stolen Valor" over an obvious joke...

You definitely have a problem with reading comprehension. I never stated stolen valor. I stated he lied when he stated he was commissioner of the florida state police.

We can go back and forth with your joke defense, but seeing that several people have already commented that they did not consider it a joke, well he shouldn’t take up comedy as a career

[JMintzer]

No. What does your question have to do with my statement. There is no correlation.

Because the concept of sarcasm and making an obvious joke seems completely foreign to you...

[JMintzer]

You definitely have a problem with reading comprehension. I never stated stolen valor. I stated he lied when he stated he was commissioner of the florida state police.

We can go back and forth with your joke defense, but seeing that several people have already commented that they did not consider it a joke, well he shouldn’t take up comedy as a career

And many more have stated they understood the joke...

Oh, and PLEASE accept my apologies for misstating that you were soooo concerned about claiming he was the Police Commissioner, rather than claiming Stolen Valor. I don't know if I can handle the shame...

Oh, and btw... That was sarcasm...

[CPD050]

And many more have stated they understood the joke...

Oh, and PLEASE accept my apologies for misstating that you were soooo concerned about claiming he was the Police Commissioner, rather than claiming Stolen Valor. I don't know if I can handle the shame...

Oh, and btw... That was sarcasm...

No my apologies, having logical discussions with you would be impossible. You fail to grasp the concept of facts, cannot make logical statements and have nothing to offer to further this discussion . You make a wonderful cheerleader though lol

[rustyp]

There is a lot of _________________, well I'm not sure what in this thread.

Welcome to the party.

Best thread ever. One poster alone responded 37 times.

[JMintzer]

No my apologies, having logical discussions with you would be impossible. You fail to grasp the concept of facts, cannot make logical statements and have nothing to offer to further this discussion . You make a wonderful cheerleader though lol

:jester::jester::jester:

[Calisport]

I turned right on to Meggison toward the gate and a dirty black truck peeled out almost in front of me. He was parked on the grass at Roudell and Meggison. I honked at him and he punched his engine in rage. He went after a car that was going about 40-45 mph. This was on Friday also so they were out in force. The cop in the unmarked car had a dark shaggy facial growth, but looked like a Navy Seal type of guy.

[Woodbear]

Nothing in tv takes place, including traffic enforcement, without the wizards of oz saying so.

Now that is deep quote

[Woodbear]

Golf cart especially the gas types have a high center of gravity and relatively high wheels. Allowing them to go over 20 MPH is inviting wrecks, collisions, overturned vehicles, and driver and passenger DEATHS. It is just a matter of numbers - I wish the Police could say what % of golf carts have their governors JACKED-UP. I would guess that it is around 30% just going by the excessively high speed that I observe going by my house.
.........About 60 or 70% of the drivers are content to cruise along at 15 to 20 MPH. But then there are the 30% crowd that are going 25 to 35 MPH. That is just having ZERO concern for their fellow man. You would think that The Villagers would be above that JUVENILE BEHAVIOR........but some seem to love wallowing in the glory of owning a tampered-with Golf Cart governor.

If you ain't cheatin.........

[Worldseries27]

///

[Dotneko]

Up in Rio Grande our street was normal, no one is now. Sumter police checked our street for people only drive through stop sign in front of my house now there is no sumter anything no marion.
Now 4.5 carts per minute the come this way to find Spanish springs and golf. Everyone holding there gps phone. Don't stop and or return. I have seen too many cars and cart

Are you related to Brian Herlihy?? I dont understand your post at all.

[Worldseries27]

are you related to brian herlihy?? I dont understand your post at all.
i'll have what she's having

[fdpaq0580]

Because the concept of sarcasm and making an obvious joke seems completely foreign to you...

Problem. is the "joke" wasn't that obvious.

[fdpaq0580]

But what if they do it to make a joke?

It should be damned obvious and not assumed that everyone, even the person who is logging on for the first time understands that it is a joke. By the way, reread the claim post and the explanation. The explanation states he made the claim to shut down a poster he was mad at, not to make him laugh. Joke?

[Worldseries27]

1,2,3

[Two Bills]

Really need a Dermatologist on this thread.
So much thin skin. :shrug:

[Two Bills]

Are you related to Brian Herlihy?? I dont understand your post at all.

:eclipsee_gold_cup::ho:

[Moderator]

Too much moderation work involved here to remove all the sniping comments. Thread closed.