What's going on along 301?

[jandr]

There is a large area that has been cleared along the west side of 301, north of Wildwood near 462 and across from Darryl's Diner.

Anyone have info about this? (Please no Costco, Trader Joe's, etc. rumors - unless they're true.)

[Decadeofdave]

I believe it is more apartments.

[JohnN]

Did someone say Trader Joe's??? True? What is truth, really?

[kansasr]

There is a large area that has been cleared along the west side of 301, north of Wildwood near 462 and across from Darryl's Diner.

Anyone have info about this? (Please no Costco, Trader Joe's, etc. rumors - unless they're true.)

New apartments so that we'll continue to have people to take care of us in The Villages.

[Normal]

From a news paper we all know about…..

Wildwood commissioners Monday night approved the Twisted Oaks development, expected to have up to 1,210 homes on about 387 acres west of U.S. 301 and south of County Road 462 West.

Commissioners also approved an ordinance to establish a community development district to govern the project.

The development will be adjacent to Primus Pipe & Tube, a long-time Wildwood industrial business, and will include up to 165,000 square feet of commercial and industrial space along U.S. 301.

“This is going to be our largest project with the exception of The Villages within the city limits,” said development director Melanie Peavy.

[vintageogauge]

From a news paper we all know about…..

Wildwood commissioners Monday night approved the Twisted Oaks development, expected to have up to 1,210 homes on about 387 acres west of U.S. 301 and south of County Road 462 West.

Commissioners also approved an ordinance to establish a community development district to govern the project.

The development will be adjacent to Primus Pipe & Tube, a long-time Wildwood industrial business, and will include up to 165,000 square feet of commercial and industrial space along U.S. 301.

“This is going to be our largest project with the exception of The Villages within the city limits,” said development director Melanie Peavy.

And what is Melanie going to do with the 2,000 plus cars and trucks coming in and out of there onto 301 every day. Daryl's Diner should do pretty good once they're built.

[asianthree]

And what is Melanie going to do with the 2,000 plus cars and trucks coming in and out of there onto 301 every day. Daryl's Diner should do pretty good once they're built.

Daryl’s already has a line outside pretty much every morning. Saturday after 9am usually 45 minute plus wait, Staff does as best as they can to get tables turned over. 2000 plus cars isn’t going to make Daryls store front any bigger, but square one and Winn Dixie will definitely benefit

[GizmoWhiskers]

Another round of 300 units of apartments. The days of quiet pastures with cows across from a Walgreens are long gone. Gotta make that $$$$$. Its sad imho. People who say its housing for future workers to take care of villagers... do the math. Those apartments won't be "affordable".

[Normal]

The new construction is nice, but will they be able to fill those apartments? East 462 already has about 700 units opening in the area, not to mention the new homes going in also. The surplus of rental units should bring down prices pretty well across the board.

[RICH1]

1200 plus homes should make the Crime Reports more interesting! Hope the Reports include the Home purchase price…

[Normal]

1200 plus homes should make the Crime Reports more interesting! Hope the Reports include the Home purchase price…

Wildwood already burned their bridges with infrastructure, why not become the crime capital too?

[bpauley]

Apartments

[airstreamingypsy]

It's really terrible that Wildwood approves literally project that comes down the pike in their direction. There needs to be some land left, some trees and woods...... we didn't move to Orlando, but its starting to feel like we did.

[kkingston57]

Another round of 300 units of apartments. The days of quiet pastures with cows across from a Walgreens are long gone. Gotta make that $$$$$. Its sad imho. People who say its housing for future workers to take care of villagers... do the math. Those apartments won't be "affordable".

Affordable in Florida? Will be "affordable" for people who live in S. Florida. Average 2/2 in S. Is over 2500 a month. Developers have 0 likelihood to build housing for the worker bees that are and/or will be needed.

[ThirdOfFive]

Another round of 300 units of apartments. The days of quiet pastures with cows across from a Walgreens are long gone. Gotta make that $$$$$. Its sad imho. People who say its housing for future workers to take care of villagers... do the math. Those apartments won't be "affordable".
I'm not sure what the other choices would be. TV needs service workers, and driving a significant distance for a low(er) paying job just isn't feasible, particularly if your income is limited to begin with.

It is a pretty sure bet though that a lot (most?) of these new apartments are going to be subsidized under Section 8, and HUD's guidelines as to who qualifies are pretty generous. According to hud dot gov, housing assistance is granted on a graduated scale according to income, as follows:

Extremely low income: $35,450.
Very low income: $59,100.
Moderately low income: $94,600.

Not bad, considering that these workers and their families will be coming from digs that are probably significantly less amenable to good living than a new (for awhile, anyway) apartment with on-site recreational facilities. Plus, if they have kids and as long as they retain their jobs in TV, said kids will be eligible to be educated at The Villages charter schools, which as I understand it is a pretty large leap in quality, for the most part, compared to what is offered in surrounding schools.

I'm not worried, as some are, about an increase in crime when these apartments are functioning. Law enforcement around here is pretty good at keeping the pressure on the small-time offenders and it is a pretty safe bet that law enforcement's numbers will be beefed up to handle any increase in petty crime. My worry is what happens if and when this-or-that worker quits or loses their job in TV. Will that be grounds for eviction? If not it isn't going to take long for fewer and fewer apartments being available for those who want to work in TV.

[vinricci]

Those Wildwood Commissioners will have enough money to buy a house in The Villages.

[dewilson58]

I'm not worried, as some are, about an increase in crime when these apartments are functioning. Law enforcement around here is pretty good at keeping the pressure on the small-time offenders and it is a pretty safe bet that law enforcement's numbers will be beefed up to handle any increase in petty crime.

:BigApplause:

[asianthree]

The new construction is nice, but will they be able to fill those apartments? East 462 already has about 700 units opening in the area, not to mention the new homes going in also. The surplus of rental units should bring down prices pretty well across the board.

Met a young lady newly working at Another Broken Egg. She is applying to all the close apartments near TV. In the meantime driving from northern part of Ocala.

[Normal]

Met a young lady newly working at Another Broken Egg. She is applying to all the close apartments near TV. In the meantime driving from northern part of Ocala.

Wildwood will have 700 units open by September on 462. Tell her to hang in there. Beaumont and the Wilds have units, but I believe the Wilds has vacancies even now before they open up their newest building. They run about 2 K a month for their larger units.

[shortstack]

People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.

[dewilson58]

People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.

:what::what:

Really??!?!?!?

TV has doubled over the last ten years, will double over the next ten years...........so you expect the same people to take care of the current and future population???

Glad you are not driving the bus.

:evil6:

[Bogie Shooter]

People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.

Sometimes it pays to think before typing.
A lot of worker bees here are driving a lot of miles for their job here. Maybe living here close to their job would make more sense…….what say you? Duh!

[JSR22]

People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.

The population has increased significantly over the past few years. More workers are needed, and they must have a place to live.

[vintageogauge]

People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.

There are also millions of square feet of industrial space in the works in Wildwood and Coleman that will employ thousands of workers, they all need somewhere to live. Additionally teachers for the new schools and employees for the new Hospital, so on, and so on.

[CFrance]

Daryl’s already has a line outside pretty much every morning. Saturday after 9am usually 45 minute plus wait, Staff does as best as they can to get tables turned over. 2000 plus cars isn’t going to make Daryls store front any bigger, but square one and Winn Dixie will definitely benefit
I believe the Daryl's in question is the one on 301, not the one in Pinellas Plaza.

[Whitley]

I recall visiting an in law about thirty years ago. I was ready to sell my business and move down. I was too young by about twenty-five years. Being in the middle of the state I thought it would keep the small town feel. Buffalos grazing, gopher tortoises. I am now looking for that old time Florida town once again. If I find it I will definitely not post where on the site. Sorry.

[Normal]

It was recently reported in the other newspaper, that Burk’s BBQ (466A near Micro Racetrack) and some 85 acres was sold to Evolve Cos. for 4.5 million. There are plans to develop the area directly adjacent to the Villages into high rise apartments. That should loosen up the housing market a little more. It will be great for workers too who can get affordable housing and basically golf cart or bicycle straight to work.

https://www.**************.com/2023/05/06/shuttered-restaurant-across-from-the-villages-sold-as-part-of-4-5-million-deal/

[Regorp]

There is a large area that has been cleared along the west side of 301, north of Wildwood near 462 and across from Darryl's Diner.

Anyone have info about this? (Please no Costco, Trader Joe's, etc. rumors - unless they're true.)

Progress!!

[Bogie Shooter]

It was recently reported in the other newspaper, that Burk’s BBQ (466A near Micro Racetrack) and some 85 acres was sold to Evolve Cos. for 4.5 million. There are plans to develop the area directly adjacent to the Villages into high rise apartments. That should loosen up the housing market a little more. It will be great for workers too who can get affordable housing and basically golf cart or bicycle straight to work.

https://www.**************.com/2023/05/06/shuttered-restaurant-across-from-the-villages-sold-as-part-of-4-5-million-deal/

Golf cart ………..probably not.������*♂️

[Number 10 GI]

Various sources guestimate between 600 and 1,000 people move to Florida daily. They have to live somewhere. If the growth is too much for you, move to Detroit. I have seen pictures of whole neighborhoods abandoned and Michigan is in the top 10 states losing population.

[Normal]

Golf cart ………..probably not.������*♂️

Sure they can. The property is adjacent to Colony Plaza. Just drive your cart through the plaza.

[NoMoSno]

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[Normal]

The property is on the west side of 301.
No, I was talking about the new apartments being built on 466A adjacent to Colony Plaza. The old Burks BBQ area. It’s on the North side of 466A.

Ya, carts won’t be crossing 301 lol.

[tonycirocco@me.com]

Soo, a CCD, ? Works OK until the governor says no, as he did at Disney..THEN he thinks he can lord over the place like he wants to do at Disney....RIGHT, that is a good plan.

[JMintzer]

Sure they can. The property is adjacent to Colony Plaza. Just drive your cart through the plaza.

From what I've read and seen, TV is quite averse to allow non-Villages property golf cart access...

[Flyers999]

I recall visiting an in law about thirty years ago. I was ready to sell my business and move down. I was too young by about twenty-five years. Being in the middle of the state I thought it would keep the small town feel. Buffalos grazing, gopher tortoises. I am now looking for that old time Florida town once again. If I find it I will definitely not post where on the site. Sorry.

There's still no place like TV in the world. Do you really want to sit on your porch and watch Buffalos and Tortoises graze? If you have a wife they usually want to do things. One of the great things about TV is the diversity of people and things to do. The are plenty of FL gated retirement communities but many have a small-town mentality where if you don't get along with a handful you have to move. Here there's over 120k so the chances of finding people with similar hobbies and getting along are much better. There's plenty of entertainment and clubs that are tailored to seniors. I can get to any place I need to go, very quickly. Usually within 10 minutes.

[Bogie Shooter]

Sure they can. The property is adjacent to Colony Plaza. Just drive your cart through the plaza.

No, I was talking about the new apartments being built on 466A adjacent to Colony Plaza. The old Burks BBQ area. It’s on the North side of 466A.

Ya, carts won’t be crossing 301 lol.

:what:

[Pairadocs]

1200 plus homes should make the Crime Reports more interesting! Hope the Reports include the Home purchase price…

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: Right ! And don't forget, hopefully the MAKE of any of the 2000 additional automobiles (if pricey enough, Fords and Chevy's seem exempt from the free advertising, LOL) when they get into accidents.

[Pairadocs]

Sometimes it pays to think before typing.
A lot of worker bees here are driving a lot of miles for their job here. Maybe living here close to their job would make more sense…….what say you? Duh!

Duh, duh, duh ! Do you think some of these people really have no analytical thinking ability, can't relate a possible cause/effect relationship, etc. OR...do you think they post such things on purpose to just sit back and "watch" the "fireworks" of push back ? ?

[Pairadocs]

And what is Melanie going to do with the 2,000 plus cars and trucks coming in and out of there onto 301 every day. Daryl's Diner should do pretty good once they're built.

Bet the preponderance of the increased automobile traffic will be the responsibility of the State of Florida dept of transportation, not "Melanie"...right ? ? Traffic counters, road widening, increased access ????

[Pairadocs]

It's really terrible that Wildwood approves literally project that comes down the pike in their direction. There needs to be some land left, some trees and woods...... we didn't move to Orlando, but its starting to feel like we did.

Moved from south Florida to escape; they horrendous traffic, the long lines at every restaurant (no matter how ordinary), the crowded grocery stores, the waiting months for an appointment of most any kind, from a medical checkup to having a ceramic tile replaced in a floor... but ALL of that and more just followed us "up north" here to the NATURAL Florida we missed so much ! PROGRESS always marches on... must go further north maybe, take a look at the panhandle to see if it too is getting over populated. When you have the best state in the bag of 50, well, "they will come" as Kevin Costner was told in field of dreams... and come....and come, lots of coastal states but, none like Florida !

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I recall visiting an in law about thirty years ago. I was ready to sell my business and move down. I was too young by about twenty-five years. Being in the middle of the state I thought it would keep the small town feel. Buffalos grazing, gopher tortoises. I am now looking for that old time Florida town once again. If I find it I will definitely not post where on the site. Sorry. I had a home here over 20 years ago that I spent very little time in , if I could still see buffaloes and tortoises here then I wouldn’t be here now , I’m here because there is so much to do or I can do as little as I want .on another rant please folks let’s not worry about all the crime that hasn’t happen yet, most people planning on living in those apartments just want to work hard and enjoy there life just like us and some of them I’m sure are going to be people that used to be your neighbors , that’s happening already

[Bogie Shooter]

Duh, duh, duh ! Do you think some of these people really have no analytical thinking ability, can't relate a possible cause/effect relationship, etc. OR...do you think they post such things on purpose to just sit back and "watch" the "fireworks" of push back ? ?

Not sure where the analysis or thinking was in the post…..

“People have been taking care of Villagers for years. Why do we need MORE apartments.”