Will not be a part of The Villages

[twoplanekid]

I read in today’s paper that Mark Morse said “ The community will not be a part of the Villages” but “it’s near the Villages to serve the Villages”. I assume that these statements are referring to the family neighborhood CDD that will have some 8,000 homes near the new Villages Charter School.

I wonder if this family CDD will be run by the Villages District Staff to be a part of the Villages. Yet, it isn’t a part of the Villages.

I wonder if they will pay amenity fees to be collected by whom? I wonder if the golf carts they use will be allowed on our multimodal paths and vice versa.

I am looking forward to things changing for the better and hope for the best for The Villages and this family community near the Villages.

[vintageogauge]

Let's see, 8000 homes, probably 12,000 cars and trucks, the commercial district down the road, school buses, hospital staff, ambulances, increased truck traffic exiting the turnpike onto 470 to feed the new industrial complex on 301, traffic will be a nightmare down there, I would not be too concerned about golf cars, they may not have access to the MMP's without crossing roads illegally, I would however be concerned about finding parking spots wherever you go and how long it takes to get there. These will be year round residents for the most part. However, it will be good for any commercial/retail business built south of 44.

[kansasr]

If you look at the organization chart at districtgov.org, Middleton (and the new Coleman Ridge non-resident development) are both showing as part of the organization.

[Nucky]

Take a ride down yonder and actually experience the distance from the mother ship.

I'm not criticizing at all but it's a hike and a half. Looks like a great place to live and the High School is unbelievably beautiful.

There is a buyer for every house.

[Altavia]

Let's see, 8000 homes, probably 12,000 cars and trucks, the commercial district down the road, school buses, hospital staff, ambulances, increased truck traffic exiting the turnpike onto 470 to feed the new industrial complex on 301, traffic will be a nightmare down there, I would not be too concerned about golf cars, they may not have access to the MMP's without crossing roads illegally, I would however be concerned about finding parking spots wherever you go and how long it takes to get there. These will be year round residents for the most part. However, it will be good for any commercial/retail business built south of 44.

how does it work in the current employee areas?

There are ready MMP's and cart tunnels in place along Central Parkway

I'm in favor of anything that improves the quality of life for the employees here.

Also look forward to supporting/ attending high school sports, and other events. Maybe even volunteering at the high school.

[JMintzer]

The only thing I know for sure is that Middleton will be golf cart accessible to the rest of TV...

That said, I think it's a great idea that they're building it. Hopefully, it will attract more support workers. Something that is sorely needed...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I'd love to see them take over and re-build one of the communities north of here too. Somewhere in Summerfield or Weirsdale. That'd really help bring more employees and their families (especially people who work in doctors' offices and the hospital) to the older parts of the Villages.

[Papa_lecki]

If any of you remember when you were raising your kids - you had no time to go to the square, play pickleball or paly golf - you were working, going to soccer games, school plays, art shows…..

[Normal]

Lake County collects the taxes etc. Who really cares about golf cart accessibility? Public roads and paths will be maintained by the county, not us. They have their own amenities and it’s residents can’t use The Villages linked amenities. It certainly will be a nice addition to the neighborhood. I am glad the Villages has thought this far ahead on the issue.

[asianthree]

If any of you remember when you were raising your kids - you had no time to go to the square, play pickleball or paly golf - you were working, going to soccer games, school plays, art shows…..

We must have had a better organized life. One traveled, while one stayed home. During the summer kids in tow, traveling staying in Residence Inn, in multiple states, with plenty to do. We played golf, hiked, enjoys great places.

School time, had travel hockey players, cheerleaders, travel soccer, and orchestra. All ended with 4. And full rides to multiple colleges. But we must have had time left over, no school plays, or art shows.

[Pairadocs]

The only thing I know for sure is that Middleton will be golf cart accessible to the rest of TV...

That said, I think it's a great idea that they're building it. Hopefully, it will attract more support workers. Something that is sorely needed...

Totally agree, and, hopefully, more customers for our stores (especially those around the square) so they are able to "make it" here, while making the quality of life for us seniors so much better... having to close the local coffee shop, or have limited hours because no help is available makes for a rough retirement for sure.

[Battlebasset]

Can't wait to see it fully functional, and I believe it will be golf cart connected. I'm also hopeful that it will convince some of the larger retailers (Target, Wal-Mart) to build south so those of us down here don't have to schlep up to 441 to access those things.

And personally, it will be great to see some younger people. I love the Villages, but I've never seen so many old people! Of course, when I look in the mirror, I realize I'm one of them!

[crash]

I read in today’s paper that Mark Morse said “ The community will not be a part of the Villages” but “it’s near the Villages to serve the Villages”. I assume that these statements are referring to the family neighborhood CDD that will have some 8,000 homes near the new Villages Charter School.

I wonder if this family CDD will be run by the Villages District Staff to be a part of the Villages. Yet, it isn’t a part of the Villages.

I wonder if they will pay amenity fees to be collected by whom? I wonder if the golf carts they use will be allowed on our multimodal paths and vice versa.

I am looking forward to things changing for the better and hope for the best for The Villages and this family community near the Villages.

They have their own amenities and can’t access villages amenities. They do not get a green card and are not residents of the Villages 55 and over community.

[GizmoWhiskers]

I read in today’s paper that Mark Morse said “ The community will not be a part of the Villages” but “it’s near the Villages to serve the Villages”. I assume that these statements are referring to the family neighborhood CDD that will have some 8,000 homes near the new Villages Charter School.

I wonder if this family CDD will be run by the Villages District Staff to be a part of the Villages. Yet, it isn’t a part of the Villages.

I wonder if they will pay amenity fees to be collected by whom? I wonder if the golf carts they use will be allowed on our multimodal paths and vice versa.

I am looking forward to things changing for the better and hope for the best for The Villages and this family community near the Villages.
A while back there was an article that explained only about 250 homes will be under 55 of the 8000 approved. I believe that still holds true. What seems to be deminishing is beautiful golf cart paths (mmp) like up north. The great grandkids seem to think riding next to cars in diamond lanes is enough fun for old people. The days of beautiful, inviting details are long gone. Travel up Bueana Vista Blvd by Sumter Landing and see for yourself. Sorry to say but reality check, it will be 100 years before the area around 470 will be worth site seeing.

[Altavia]

Wildwood Commission approves creation of Middleton CDD

The upcoming Middleton neighborhood will use the same form of local government that has been successful throughout The Villages.

The Wildwood City Commission on Monday approved by a 4-0 vote the creation of the Middleton Community Development District A.

The neighborhood will be built next to The Villages south of the existing County Road 470 as a separate community with its own unique amenities.

The non-age-restricted neighborhood is designed to draw and retain the workforce that supports retirees in The Villages, with proximity to a new charter school campus.

Middleton CDD A will include about 2,480 acres and up to 8,280 homes, with a mix of housing types, designs and models.

The new school, a downtown area and all recreation amenities will all be accessible by walking, biking or golf cart via a network of pathways, trails and tunnels.

The first two residential units of family housing at Middleton will consist of 569 homes on about 133 acres south of Central Parkway and west of Stampeder Trail, documents show.

Unit 1 will also be home to a recreation area featuring a postal station, resort-style pool, pickleball and tennis courts, corn toss, a children’s playground, a dog park and pedestrian pathway surrounding a lake.

Phase 1 of downtown Middleton will bring six retail/office buildings with about 146,000 square feet of available commercial space.

Diverse housing options planned at Middleton will include everything from single-family homes to multi-family apartment rentals.

There are 14 residential CDDs in The Villages, in addition to three commercial districts and two utilities dependent districts.

. . .

Wildwood Commission approves creation of Middleton CDD | News | The Villages Daily Sun | thevillagesdailysun.com (https://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/news/villages/wildwood-commission-approves-creation-of-middleton-cdd/article_6f1d64ee-c517-11ec-ab60-bb7c34d60017.amp.html)

. . .

Maps indicate MMP connection to the north.

[SusanStCatherine]

What I've heard from salespeople is it will all be golf cart accessible. The family community of Middleton will have their own ammennities and not have access to ours. I don't think they have to pay a bond. At first I heard there would only be 250 houses but later I heard many more perhaps it was 3000. I think they will have some apartments.

[Normal]

Wildwood Commission approves creation of Middleton CDD

The upcoming Middleton neighborhood will use the same form of local government that has been successful throughout The Villages.

The Wildwood City Commission on Monday approved by a 4-0 vote the creation of the Middleton Community Development District A.

The neighborhood will be built next to The Villages south of the existing County Road 470 as a separate community with its own unique amenities.

The non-age-restricted neighborhood is designed to draw and retain the workforce that supports retirees in The Villages, with proximity to a new charter school campus.

Middleton CDD A will include about 2,480 acres and up to 8,280 homes, with a mix of housing types, designs and models.

The new school, a downtown area and all recreation amenities will all be accessible by walking, biking or golf cart via a network of pathways, trails and tunnels.

The first two residential units of family housing at Middleton will consist of 569 homes on about 133 acres south of Central Parkway and west of Stampeder Trail, documents show.

Unit 1 will also be home to a recreation area featuring a postal station, resort-style pool, pickleball and tennis courts, corn toss, a children’s playground, a dog park and pedestrian pathway surrounding a lake.

Phase 1 of downtown Middleton will bring six retail/office buildings with about 146,000 square feet of available commercial space.

Diverse housing options planned at Middleton will include everything from single-family homes to multi-family apartment rentals.

There are 14 residential CDDs in The Villages, in addition to three commercial districts and two utilities dependent districts.


Hmmm….a commission from Wildwood? They think they have a say in Lake County? They usurp Leesburg? Something isn’t right? Either Leesburg is giving up their rights to the taxes and authority, Wildwood is full of hot air, or the Daily Sun needs a new reporter?

[Bill14564]

Hmmm….a commission from Wildwood? They think they have a say in Lake County? They usurp Leesburg? Something isn’t right? Either Leesburg is giving up their rights to the taxes and authority, Wildwood is full of hot air, or the Daily Sun needs a new reporter?

Or choice D: Middleton is in Sumter County in an area incorporated by the city of Wildwood.

[Bilyclub]

Hmmm….a commission from Wildwood? They think they have a say in Lake County? They usurp Leesburg? Something isn’t right? Either Leesburg is giving up their rights to the taxes and authority, Wildwood is full of hot air, or the Daily Sun needs a new reporter?



It's West of the Turnpike. Like the post directly above says, it's Sumter County and Wildwood.

[Normal]

It's West of the Turnpike. Like the post directly above says, it's Sumter County and Wildwood.

It’s of course locatedLake County, perhaps some tangent may eventually hit Sumter? I was down there yesterday. Its entirety currently maps out South of 470. Bad reporting I guess?

[golfing eagles]

It’s of course locatedLake County, perhaps some tangent may eventually hit Sumter? I was down there yesterday. Its entirety currently maps out South of 470. Bad reporting I guess?

Were you lost?????? Seems like it. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

According to google maps, the county line is at SE 88th Terr, well east of ALL of Middleton, almost to the turnpike/470 interchange.

[Normal]

Were you lost?????? Seems like it. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Nope, Sumter changes to Lake on Meggison before you even hit Central Parkway.

[golfing eagles]

Nope, Sumter changes to Lake on Meggison before you even hit Central Parkway.

Were you lost?????? Seems like it. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

According to google maps, the county line is at SE 88th Terr, well east of ALL of Middleton, almost to the turnpike/470 interchange.

Please look at google maps. BTW, 470 near Middleton has nothing to do with Meggison.

[Bilyclub]

It’s of course locatedLake County, perhaps some tangent may eventually hit Sumter? I was down there yesterday. Its entirety currently maps out South of 470. Bad reporting I guess?

Here's a visual aid. Pretty sure that Middleton is West of the red Lake County line.

[John Mayes]

It’s of course locatedLake County, perhaps some tangent may eventually hit Sumter? I was down there yesterday. Its entirety currently maps out South of 470. Bad reporting I guess?

Middleton is entirely in Sumter County.

[nn0wheremann]

Let's see, 8000 homes, probably 12,000 cars and trucks, the commercial district down the road, school buses, hospital staff, ambulances, increased truck traffic exiting the turnpike onto 470 to feed the new industrial complex on 301, traffic will be a nightmare down there, I would not be too concerned about golf cars, they may not have access to the MMP's without crossing roads illegally, I would however be concerned about finding parking spots wherever you go and how long it takes to get there. These will be year round residents for the most part. However, it will be good for any commercial/retail business built south of 44.
I am so glad we located in CDD 4 way up north in Marion County.

[Dantes]

Thinking of moving it’s not a retirement village any longer. With family units coming and most of the rentals are Air B&Bs with no oversight.Three day parties and kids everywhere.

[kansasr]

Middleton is in Wildwood, in Sumter County

[Bridget Staunton]

The kids in the under 55 community will be going to the new high school, I assume built by The Villages. Does that increase our real estate taxes? Trying to get an education. Thanks in advance

[Altavia]

Establishment of the Middleton A Community Development District

https://districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20220512ma0201

. . .

NEW BUSINESS:

2. Approval of Interlocal Agreement with Village Center Community Development District Discussion and consideration of an Interlocal Agreement between the Village Center Community Development District and Middleton A Community Development District for Management, Finance and Administrative Services.

3. Adoption of Resolution 2022-01 Canvassing and Certifying the Landowner Election A. Determination of Number of Voting Units Represented
B. Casting of Ballots
C. Ballot Tabulation
D. Landowners' Questions or Comments
E. Adopt Resolution 2022-01 Canvassing and Certifying the Results of the Landowner Election. F. Administer the Oath of Office to newly elected Supervisors
4. Appointment of Chair and Vice Chair

5. Review, Discussion and Adoption of Resolutions for District Management

Adoption of Resolutions for District Manager, Secretary, Assistant Secretary, and Treasurer and Registered Agent.

6. Adoption of Resolution 2022-07 Designating Legal Counsel
Approval of Resolution 2022-07 designating Brionez + Brionez , P.A. to serve as Legal Counsel for Middleton A Community Development District.

7. Adoption of Resolution 2022-08 Designating Bond Counsel
Approval of Resolution 2022-08 designating GrayRobinson, P.A. and Nixon Peabody LLP to serve as Bond Counsel for Middleton A Community Development District.

8. Adoption of Resolution 2021-09 Designating a District Engineer
Adoption of Resolution 2022-09 designating Clymer Farner Barley, Inc. as the District Engineer.

9. Adoption of Resolutions 2022-10 and 2022-11 Designating a Financial Advisor and Economist
Adoption of Resolution 2022-10 designating PFM Financial Advisors, LLC as the Financial Advisor and Resolution 2022-11 Designating PFM Financial Advisors, LLC as Economist for Middleton A Community Development District.

10. Adoption of Resolution 2022-12 Designating an Investment Banker/Underwriter
Adoption of Resolution 2022-12 designating Jefferies to serve as Investment Banker/Underwriter.

11. Adoption of Resolution 2022-13 Designating a Trustee
Adoption of Resolution 2022-13 designating US Bank as Trustee

12. Approval to File Notice of Establishment
Request to record the Notice of Establishment for the District with Sumter County, Florida.

13. Adoption of Resolution 2022-14 Authorizing Bond Issuance
Adoption of Resolution 2022-14 authorizing the issuance of Series 2022 Special Assessment Revenue Bonds

14. General and Procedural Rules - Authorization to Advertise
Staff is requesting permission to advertise for a public hearing to be held for the purpose of approving a resolution to adopt Chapter 1 of the Middleton A Community Development District Rules to establish General and Procedural Rules.

[Altavia]

What I've heard from salespeople is it will all be golf cart accessible. The family community of Middleton will have their own ammennities and not have access to ours. I don't think they have to pay a bond. At first I heard there would only be 250 houses but later I heard many more perhaps it was 3000. I think they will have some apartments.


There will be bonds (see previous post), they are an essential element for establishing A CDD.

. . .

The Villages appoints heavy hitters to newest CDD board at southern end
By
Marv Balousek April 26, 2022

As construction in the Villages of Southern Oaks continues its southward and eastward march, Wildwood commissioners Monday night approved a new community development district for an area along County Road 470 across from the Coleman federal prison.

Middleton Community Development District A will include 8,280 homes on 2,485 acres.

Infrastructure for the development is expected to cost nearly $400 million over the next six years for roads, multi-use paths, bridges, tunnels, landscaping, buffer walls, storm water management and wetland and wildlife mitigation. Sewer and water extensions also will be required.

The improvements will be financed by the landowner and CDD with reimbursement through special assessments and revenue bonds.

Estimated completion date for the infrastructure projects is 2028.

The all-residential development will be near a downtown area that is slated to include schools and businesses.

Wildwood Commissioner Marcos Flores recused himself from voting on the district because his wife has been named to serve as vice chair of the Middleton CDD A board.

[Altavia]

The kids in the under 55 community will be going to the new high school, I assume built by The Villages. Does that increase our real estate taxes? Trying to get an education. Thanks in advance

The Villages funded the schools.

[Altavia]

Nope, Sumter changes to Lake on Meggison before you even hit Central Parkway.

Middleton is just south of Coleman Federal Penitentiary in case that helps you orient.

[twoplanekid]

I must admit that I have not been closely following the developments of Middleton. However in reading post #30, it sure looks to me that Middleton will be another Village residential CDD like all of the other Village CDDs except.:read:

Maybe the paper misquoted Mark Morse when he stated that “the community will not be a part of The Villages “ but “it's near the Villages to serve the Villages”?

[Bill14564]

I must admit that I have not been closely following the developments of Middleton. However in reading post #30, it sure looks to me that Middleton will be another Village residential CDD like all of the other Village CDDs except.:read:

Maybe the paper misquoted Mark Morse when he stated that “the community will not be a part of The Villages “ but “it's near the Villages to serve the Villages”?

Might depend on what is meant by "part of The Villages."

Middleton by The Villages (MbTV) will be run by a CDD just like the numbered districts we all live in. The MbTV CDD will make use of the services of the VCCDD just like the numbered districts we all live in. It looks like a town center, amenities, and MMPs are planned for MbTV just like the areas we all live in.

It is likely that the MbTV residents will not pay the same amenity fee we pay and will not have cards allowing them to access our pools, rec centers, and golf courses.

MbTV will not be an age restricted community like the areas we live in.

It will be built by the same Developer
It will have a CDD just like we do
It will utilize services of the VCCDD just like we do
It will have a bond just like we do
It will have recreation and commercial space just like we do

It will NOT be age restricted
It will likely NOT have access to "the Villages" amenities

So whether or not you consider it to be "part of The Villages" depends on which of those things matter to you.

To me, the two items it will not have are what makes it not part of the Villages.

[LuvtheVillages]

The Villages funded the schools.

Yes, The Villages developer funded the building of the new schools. However, I think I read somewhere that the Sumter County School District pays to lease the facilities.

Can anyone shed more light on that?

[JMintzer]

Might depend on what is meant by "part of The Villages."

Middleton by The Villages (MbTV) will be run by a CDD just like the numbered districts we all live in. The MbTV CDD will make use of the services of the VCCDD just like the numbered districts we all live in. It looks like a town center, amenities, and MMPs are planned for MbTV just like the areas we all live in.

It is likely that the MbTV residents will not pay the same amenity fee we pay and will not have cards allowing them to access our pools, rec centers, and golf courses.

MbTV will not be an age restricted community like the areas we live in.

It will be built by the same Developer
It will have a CDD just like we do
It will utilize services of the VCCDD just like we do
It will have a bond just like we do
It will have recreation and commercial space just like we do

It will NOT be age restricted
It will likely NOT have access to "the Villages" amenities

So whether or not you consider it to be "part of The Villages" depends on which of those things matter to you.

To me, the two items it will not have are what makes it not part of the Villages.

Excellent post. Just one nit to pick...

They will NOT have access to TV amenities. They will have their own amenities...

Yes, they will be allowed to play the Championship courses (which are not part of the amenities), just like anyone else outside TV...

[Altavia]

Yes, The Villages developer funded the building of the new schools. However, I think I read somewhere that the Sumter County School District pays to lease the facilities.

Can anyone shed more light on that?

The Villages Charter School (“VCS”) is a Charter School in the Workplace (see also School of Choice). It was founded and is provided funding by The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc. as a business partnership charter school primarily for the benefit of the children of employees of The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc.

The Villages Charter Schools - Central Office (https://www.tvcs.org/centralOffice/charterInTheWorkplace/charterInTheWorkplace.asp)


Here's the 2021-2022 budget.

https://www.tvcs.org/centralOffice/pdfDocs/2021-22%20VCS%20Annual%20Budget.pdf

https://tvcs.org/centralOffice/pdfDocs/Eligibilty-and-Enrollment-Final-17-18.pdf

[Woodbear]

The only thing I know for sure is that Middleton will be golf cart accessible to the rest of TV...

That said, I think it's a great idea that they're building it. Hopefully, it will attract more support workers. Something that is sorely needed...

A villages agent told a perspective buyer that Middleton will not have cart access to the Villages. This contradicted what our daughter was told when she bought in Middleton. Given that our daughter is paying on a bond, it makes me wonder who is right.

[Woodbear]

What I've heard from salespeople is it will all be golf cart accessible. The family community of Middleton will have their own ammennities and not have access to ours. I don't think they have to pay a bond. At first I heard there would only be 250 houses but later I heard many more perhaps it was 3000. I think they will have some apartments.

There is a bond (~$30,000) for those building in Middleton.

[Woodbear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Ple0zPGQQ

[MDFlyer]

I read in today’s paper that Mark Morse said “ The community will not be a part of the Villages” but “it’s near the Villages to serve the Villages”. I assume that these statements are referring to the family neighborhood CDD that will have some 8,000 homes near the new Villages Charter School.

I wonder if this family CDD will be run by the Villages District Staff to be a part of the Villages. Yet, it isn’t a part of the Villages.

I wonder if they will pay amenity fees to be collected by whom? I wonder if the golf carts they use will be allowed on our multimodal paths and vice versa.

I am looking forward to things changing for the better and hope for the best for The Villages and this family community near the Villages.
Don't hold your breath waiting for things to get better. I have been here 15 years and things have only gotten worse. Still a nice place to live but getting worse as the developers get richer.

[Altavia]

A villages agent told a perspective buyer that Middleton will not have cart access to the Villages. This contradicted what our daughter was told when she bought in Middleton. Given that our daughter is paying on a bond, it makes me wonder who is right.

The connectivity was among the first things put in place during construction.

There is a MMP from Middleton that runs parallel to Central Parkway and through tunnels connecting to Eastport.

[Bogie Shooter]

There is a bond (~$30,000) for those building in Middleton.

Yep, just like our bonds….for infrastructure in our village……..

[Bogie Shooter]

Don't hold your breath waiting for things to get better. I have been here 15 years and things have only gotten worse. Still a nice place to live but getting worse as the developers get richer.

What things got worse?

[Altavia]

What things got worse?

Please Don't feed the trolls ;-)

[JMintzer]

A villages agent told a perspective buyer that Middleton will not have cart access to the Villages. This contradicted what our daughter was told when she bought in Middleton. Given that our daughter is paying on a bond, it makes me wonder who is right.

Sigh... They already have built the tunnels that will connect Middleton to TV...

[JMintzer]

What things got worse?

They didn't stop building once they moved in...

[Caymus]

Are the homes the same size and price as the main part of The Villages? Hard to imagine a family living in a Patio Villa.

[John Mayes]

Are the homes the same size and price as the main part of The Villages? Hard to imagine a family living in a Patio Villa.

Various sizes and designs.

Middleton | A new place to call home - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/)

BTW…they have open houses each Sunday 12:00 to 4:00. Should check it out. Looks like it will a great area for families.

[Altavia]

Are the homes the same size and price as the main part of The Villages? Hard to imagine a family living in a Patio Villa.

Excitement builds for future residents - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/2023/05/excitement-builds-for-future-residents/)