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Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-18-2023, 08:42 AM
I noticed what seems to be a trend in restaurants these days to serve vegetables raw or almost raw. I know that there are some people that like their vegetables crunchy but I like them well cooked.
I had a veggie pizza a few days ago at Roberto's. I've always liked Roberto's but never had had their pizza. The pizza was fine but I was very disappointed that the bell peppers and onions were basically raw. Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.
As I said, this seems to be the norm in restaurants. Has anyone else noticed this trend.
And no, I didn't send it back, we already waited long enough and I didn't want to keep my fellow diners waiting. And no, I didn't report it to the manager because I just assumed that this is the way that they serve vegetables.

oldtimes
05-18-2023, 08:51 AM
I noticed what seems to be a trend in restaurants these days to serve vegetables raw or almost raw. I know that there are some people that like their vegetables crunchy but I like them well cooked.
I had a veggie pizza a few days ago at Roberto's. I've always liked Roberto's but never had had their pizza. The pizza was fine but I was very disappointed that the bell peppers and onions were basically raw. Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.
As I said, this seems to be the norm in restaurants. Has anyone else noticed this trend.
And no, I didn't send it back, we already waited long enough and I didn't want to keep my fellow diners waiting. And no, I didn't report it to the manager because I just assumed that this is the way that they serve vegetables.

Yes I have noticed this also. We went to a Michelin star restaurant and the veggies were very crunchy. It does seem to be a new trend.

NotGolfer
05-18-2023, 10:02 AM
Actually "crunchy" is how chef's will prep them for food. Cooking them to mush might be easier for some to chew etc. but their benefit nutricianally is lost with over-cooking.

oldtimes
05-18-2023, 10:26 AM
Actually "crunchy" is how chef's will prep them for food. Cooking them to mush might be easier for some to chew etc. but their benefit nutricianally is lost with over-cooking.

I know that’s true but I still agree that we are seeing it more recently.

Stu from NYC
05-18-2023, 10:35 AM
Actually "crunchy" is how chef's will prep them for food. Cooking them to mush might be easier for some to chew etc. but their benefit nutricianally is lost with over-cooking.

I probably cook a bit over crunchy but not much. Otherwise very little taste

manaboutown
05-18-2023, 11:05 AM
My father wore dentures and during my teens so did my mother. She way overcooked veggies, especially broccoli and cauliflower, to the point at which I gagged on them. Of course much if not most of the nutritional value went down the sink with the water she boiled them in as she did not steam them. Fortunately I spent a lot of time with a grandmother and aunt in California, both nurses, who knew a lot about nutrition. They steamed those vegetables, not overcooking them, and I came to enjoy their flavor and slight crispiness. Today I enjoy them raw.

MrChip72
05-19-2023, 12:45 AM
Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.


Feels like an inaccurate statement unless there's some insane place around here doing that.

I've worked in multiple pizza places. There's zero need to pre cook any of the toppings in a proper convection 800 degree pizza oven. Trust me, 5 mins at 800 degrees will cook up all the toppings just plenty. I can't imagine any benefit for a pizza place to precook any of the main toppings (mushrooms can be an exception).

I haven't been to Roberto's, do they perhaps have wood fired pizza where the top isn't getting as much heat and they didn't broil it?

Two Bills
05-19-2023, 02:38 AM
The only veg that should be over cooked, is Mushy Peas.

ithos
05-19-2023, 04:22 AM
The Italian term for this is al dente which means to the tooth- it saves time is healthier and some would say tastes better.

So much better than mushy vegetables.

Collierbabe
05-19-2023, 05:49 AM
I like my veggies cooked/steamed but not mushy. My theory is that meals can be served faster. We should now ask servers how the restaurant cooks vegetables before ordering similar when ordering a steak.

Caymus
05-19-2023, 06:23 AM
Feels like an inaccurate statement unless there's some insane place around here doing that.

I've worked in multiple pizza places. There's zero need to pre cook any of the toppings in a proper convection 800 degree pizza oven. Trust me, 5 mins at 800 degrees will cook up all the toppings just plenty. I can't imagine any benefit for a pizza place to precook any of the main toppings (mushrooms can be an exception).

I haven't been to Roberto's, do they perhaps have wood fired pizza where the top isn't getting as much heat and they didn't broil it?

Vegetables contain a lot of water. I have found that they can sometimes make a crisp pizza skin soggy. I tend to precook mushrooms and onions(when I'm not too lazy).

But I only cook at about 600F. I can't balance the top/bottom heat at higher temps.

dennisgavin
05-19-2023, 06:56 AM
A pet peeve of mine. I have never had good vegetables at any restaurant almost anywhere. I cook and like my veggies cooked and SEASONED.THe steaks are seasoned, the mashed potatoes but never the veggies. If I want raw veggies I'll order a salad!

jjp2532
05-19-2023, 06:56 AM
I noticed what seems to be a trend in restaurants these days to serve vegetables raw or almost raw. I know that there are some people that like their vegetables crunchy but I like them well cooked.
I had a veggie pizza a few days ago at Roberto's. I've always liked Roberto's but never had had their pizza. The pizza was fine but I was very disappointed that the bell peppers and onions were basically raw. Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.
As I said, this seems to be the norm in restaurants. Has anyone else noticed this trend.
And no, I didn't send it back, we already waited long enough and I didn't want to keep my fellow diners waiting. And no, I didn't report it to the manager because I just assumed that this is the way that they serve vegetables.

Crunchy vegetables are pretty much the norm in restaurants today. I agree with you that they are too crunchy. This is not a question of what is healthy, I like my cooked vegetables softer than raw.

Byte1
05-19-2023, 07:02 AM
Sometimes I prefer my veggies al dente but when the rest sends them out cold with a bit of olive oil on them, and more crunchy than cooked, I don't care for them. I've had this situation too, and I don't like it. If I want salad I will order salad. I do not care about what is good for me when I eat out. I am out to enjoy the food and company. Kinda old to be worrying about eating healthy now. Besides, my parents lived well into their 90's eating and drinking exactly as they pleased, not worrying about eating healthy. So, NO I do not enjoy eating raw veggies with my meal unless I order them that way in salad.

Stu from NYC
05-19-2023, 07:30 AM
My mil used to cook veggies until they cried out for mercy. She never understood why I liked them with a bit of taste.

Stu from NYC
05-19-2023, 07:31 AM
The only veg that should be over cooked, is Mushy Peas.

Very true. Only see it in England.
Order fish and chips with mushy peas and server says huh all the time.

ribil
05-19-2023, 07:59 AM
I noticed what seems to be a trend in restaurants these days to serve vegetables raw or almost raw. I know that there are some people that like their vegetables crunchy but I like them well cooked.
I had a veggie pizza a few days ago at Roberto's. I've always liked Roberto's but never had had their pizza. The pizza was fine but I was very disappointed that the bell peppers and onions were basically raw. Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.
As I said, this seems to be the norm in restaurants. Has anyone else noticed this trend.
And no, I didn't send it back, we already waited long enough and I didn't want to keep my fellow diners waiting. And no, I didn't report it to the manager because I just assumed that this is the way that they serve vegetables.

Precisely why I don’t order vegetables while eating out.

Tvflguy
05-19-2023, 08:02 AM
We love Bluefin. They have a tasty nice side of halved Brussel sprouts with bits of bacon. Last time we had that side the brussels were very crunchy. Unlike all other times. We did not mention it and cut them up a bit smaller. We also knew that 1/2 would go home in the doggie bag. When warming up there, much better. Next time we’ll mention it when we order.

CoachKandSportsguy
05-19-2023, 08:07 AM
My mil used to cook veggies until they cried out for mercy. She never understood why I liked them with a bit of taste.

that's left over from the preindustrial revolution with lots of unknown disease sources.
if your MIL grew up with parent from the late 1800, like my parents, over cooking / boiling / steaming to mush was the only known way to sterilize the food.

The food safety advancements in the last 100 years is exponential, and intl cuisine is beyond the comprehension of most housewives from the pre industrial days.

we live in extraordinary times. . .

jmsturm
05-19-2023, 08:53 AM
Yes. I just request double steaming and sometimes they come out softer!

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-19-2023, 09:00 AM
I like my onions and mushrooms sauteed. Everything else, I like mostly raw, or crispy.

Brynnie
05-19-2023, 10:24 AM
There is wiggle room between raw and mushy. Bonefish Grill is famous for serving their green beans and broccoli very crunchy, almost hard. Yesterday we asked our waitress if they could cook the green beans a bit more so they weren't so hard. When our food came out, the beans were perfect. My husband asked our waitress to thank the chef and tell him/her the beans were just as he liked them, cooked through and just slightly crisp. She said she had made a point to tell the chef that her customer wanted the beans well done rather than hard, and the chef obliged. Maybe all we have to do is ask.

ouicestmoi
05-19-2023, 01:31 PM
My mil used to cook veggies until they cried out for mercy. She never understood why I liked them with a bit of taste.

😅😅😅

Two Bills
05-19-2023, 01:33 PM
Precisely why I don’t order vegetables while eating out.

???

Two Bills
05-19-2023, 01:38 PM
Very true. Only see it in England.
Order fish and chips with mushy peas and server says huh all the time.

Can't stand the things myself.
Rest of family all eat them.

Stu from NYC
05-19-2023, 02:15 PM
Can't stand the things myself.
Rest of family all eat them.

Wife also does not like them so more for me.:)

RUCdaze
05-19-2023, 03:13 PM
Who the heck puts veggies on a pizza?!!!

Hape2Bhr
05-19-2023, 03:28 PM
Who the heck puts veggies on a pizza?!!!


Mushrooms, onions, peppers, are a few I like on pizza.:icon_hungry::icon_hungry::icon_hungry:

RedChariot
05-19-2023, 03:56 PM
Who the heck puts veggies on a pizza?!!!

We love a veggie pizza! Prefer the veggies soft on pizza. Sometimes you get that and sometimes you don't. Eating out in Central Florida/ TV, is pretty much a crap shoot.

HospitalCoder
05-19-2023, 06:37 PM
I noticed what seems to be a trend in restaurants these days to serve vegetables raw or almost raw. I know that there are some people that like their vegetables crunchy but I like them well cooked.
I had a veggie pizza a few days ago at Roberto's. I've always liked Roberto's but never had had their pizza. The pizza was fine but I was very disappointed that the bell peppers and onions were basically raw. Other pizza places pre cook the vegetables before they put the pizza in the oven.
As I said, this seems to be the norm in restaurants. Has anyone else noticed this trend.
And no, I didn't send it back, we already waited long enough and I didn't want to keep my fellow diners waiting. And no, I didn't report it to the manager because I just assumed that this is the way that they serve vegetables.
I order my broccoli well done and it’s usually perfect.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
05-20-2023, 07:55 AM
I like my veggies cooked/steamed but not mushy. My theory is that meals can be served faster. We should now ask servers how the restaurant cooks vegetables before ordering similar when ordering a steak.asking the server about how they cook the vegetables and how you want them is just as important as how you order your steak .I like mine al dente with no butter

Nana2Teddy
05-20-2023, 08:17 AM
A pet peeve of mine. I have never had good vegetables at any restaurant almost anywhere. I cook and like my veggies cooked and SEASONED.THe steaks are seasoned, the mashed potatoes but never the veggies. If I want raw veggies I'll order a salad!
Ditto!

coffeebean
05-27-2023, 04:35 AM
I know which restaurants not to order veggie omelettes. I do not like crunchy peppers and onions in my omelettes. I have found the absolute best place for veggie omelettes is...............wait for it.....................












Dennys!!!!!!!! They list their onions on the menu as "caramalized" onions. Their peppers are also served soft, soft, soft with so much flavor; their peppers and onions are cooked just like I cook them for my omelettes.