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Rainger99
05-21-2023, 06:44 PM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
rustyp
05-21-2023, 06:59 PM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
NO but watch $$$ does for hypocrisy. Seems like the PGA may have got their foot caught in a "mousetrap".
BrianL99
05-21-2023, 07:28 PM
NO but watch $$$ does for hypocrisy. Seems like the PGA may have got their foot caught in a "mousetrap".
The PGA Tour has nothing to do with the PGA. They are separate and distinct organizations.
It will up to Zach Johnson, if he wants to use one of is Captain's picks to choose Koepka.
As Johnson has 6 "Captain's Picks", Koepka is likely to be one of them.
Then again, it's entirely possible that something "crazy" may happen with Koepka's relationship with LIV, which would make his Ryder Cup selection a sure thing.
alwann
05-21-2023, 07:32 PM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
Is the Cup PGA Tour event? Who decides? PGA Tour would probably not allow him.
Mleeja
05-21-2023, 08:54 PM
Yes. Let’s put the best players on the team.
Two Bills
05-22-2023, 02:06 AM
Lets have a PGA v LIV Cup.
Both camps put up $10 million.
Winner takes all.
dewilson58
05-22-2023, 05:30 AM
Yes, why not.
rustyp
05-22-2023, 05:55 AM
NO but watch $$$ does for hypocrisy. Seems like the PGA may have got their foot caught in a "mousetrap".
The PGA Tour has nothing to do with the PGA. They are separate and distinct organizations.
It will up to Zach Johnson, if he wants to use one of is Captain's picks to choose Koepka.
As Johnson has 6 "Captain's Picks", Koepka is likely to be one of them.
Then again, it's entirely possible that something "crazy" may happen with Koepka's relationship with LIV, which would make his Ryder Cup selection a sure thing.
“PGA of America membership is a requirement to be eligible to participate on the U.S. Ryder Cup Team. Under the PGA of America membership rules there are classifications that currently allow LIV Tour members to retain their PGA of America membership status. PGA TOUR members are considered A3 classification. Because the LIV players paid their membership dues before June 30, 2022, they will retain their membership through the end of June 2023 and then through a grace period that runs through the end of June 2024. After that, under our current rules, they may apply for PGA’s Reserve Member classification. A3 members who resigned or are no longer PGA TOUR Members (suspended) are still PGA of America members.”
Therein lies the $$$ hypocrisy. You are out ---------- except.........
rjn5656
05-22-2023, 05:59 AM
I hope none of the LIV players play in the Ryder Cup. My opinion only.
Rainger99
05-22-2023, 08:47 AM
I hope none of the LIV players play in the Ryder Cup. My opinion only.
I would like to see the best players in the world playing in the majors and the Ryder Cup. The US wants to win and not taking the best US player would make it more difficult to win.
Will Zalatoris is a great young player. He was PGA rookie of the year in 2020-2021. He did not go to LIV but stayed with the PGA. He has had some health problems and had back surgery last month and is now out for the season. He may come back as strong as ever but he may not.
One injury can end an athlete’s career. I can’t fault someone for taking millions of dollars that will set them up for life.
justjim
05-22-2023, 10:56 AM
OP, my answer is yes Brooks should play and Bryson should be considered too. Professional golf tours should sit down and negotiate cooperative agreements and end the “rift” regarding the LIV. Will this happen? A good question. Competition is good and those that live in glass houses should avoid throwing stones. Ironically the LIV has done much to improve the purses for all the golf tours and their players.
BrianL99
05-22-2023, 12:09 PM
“PGA of America membership is a requirement to be eligible to participate on the U.S. Ryder Cup Team. Under the PGA of America membership rules there are classifications that currently allow LIV Tour members to retain their PGA of America membership status. PGA TOUR members are considered A3 classification. Because the LIV players paid their membership dues before June 30, 2022, they will retain their membership through the end of June 2023 and then through a grace period that runs through the end of June 2024. After that, under our current rules, they may apply for PGA’s Reserve Member classification. A3 members who resigned or are no longer PGA TOUR Members (suspended) are still PGA of America members.”
Therein lies the $$$ hypocrisy. You are out ---------- except.........
Apparently you're a PGA of America member?
I just remembered (& checked to make sure my memory wasn't failing).
Paul Casey (a LIV Tour member) was granted a Special Exemption into the PGA Championship.
Casey's career obviously doesn't compare with Koepka's, nor is he even American.
It seems the PGA of America has already made its decision regarding LIV players.
Now it's up to Zach Johnson.
rustyp
05-22-2023, 12:25 PM
Apparently you're a PGA of America member?
I just remembered (& checked to make sure my memory wasn't failing).
Paul Casey (a LIV Tour member) was granted a Special Exemption into the PGA Championship.
Casey's career obviously doesn't compare with Koepka's, nor is he even American.
It seems the PGA of America has already made its decision regarding LIV players.
Now it's up to Zach Johnson.
No I am not a PGA member but Sweeney is - tell it to him. The question was should Brooks Koepka be on the Ryder Cup? Not is he eligible. My answer to the OPs question is still "NO".
The PGA which include the PGA of America and the PGA Tour organizations have been nothing but hypocrites about players leaving to go to LIV since day one $$$. Why should they now get to profit from the very players they blackballed ?
jebartle
05-22-2023, 12:56 PM
I hope none of the LIV players play in the Ryder Cup. My opinion only.
Me too!
Erider
05-22-2023, 03:01 PM
The PGA Tour has nothing to do with the PGA. They are separate and distinct organizations.
It will up to Zach Johnson, if he wants to use one of is Captain's picks to choose Koepka.
As Johnson has 6 "Captain's Picks", Koepka is likely to be one of them.
Then again, it's entirely possible that something "crazy" may happen with Koepka's relationship with LIV, which would make his Ryder Cup selection a sure thing.
Because of his PGA win yesterday, Koepka has vaulted to #2 in Ryder Cup points. He is also member of PGA of America, which runs the Cup, PGA Tour has nothing to do with it. He's pretty much a lock, doesn't need Zach to use captains pick.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2023, 03:06 PM
The PGA Tour has nothing to do with the PGA. They are separate and distinct organizations.
It will up to Zach Johnson, if he wants to use one of is Captain's picks to choose Koepka.
As Johnson has 6 "Captain's Picks", Koepka is likely to be one of them.
Then again, it's entirely possible that something "crazy" may happen with Koepka's relationship with LIV, which would make his Ryder Cup selection a sure thing.
Why would he be a captain's pick? Isn't he #2 on the points list?
According to PGA rules, the first six players on the points list are automatically on the team. If he's denied, I would expect a law suit. The PGA has never required players to be on any specific tour, only that they be a PGA of America member and have enough points. I believe that Brooks qualifies on both counts.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2023, 03:10 PM
Apparently you're a PGA of America member?
I just remembered (& checked to make sure my memory wasn't failing).
Paul Casey (a LIV Tour member) was granted a Special Exemption into the PGA Championship.
Casey's career obviously doesn't compare with Koepka's, nor is he even American.
It seems the PGA of America has already made its decision regarding LIV players.
Now it's up to Zach Johnson.
PGA Championship winners are exempt for life. That's why Koepka and Mickelson were in the field. I don't know why Paul Casey was granted a special exemption.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2023, 03:12 PM
No I am not a PGA member but Sweeney is - tell it to him. The question was should Brooks Koepka be on the Ryder Cup? Not is he eligible. My answer to the OPs question is still "NO".
The PGA which include the PGA of America and the PGA Tour organizations have been nothing but hypocrites about players leaving to go to LIV since day one $$$. Why should they now get to profit from the very players they blackballed ?
The PGA of America and PGA Tour are two separate organization but cooperate with one another.
BrianL99
05-22-2023, 04:48 PM
Because of his PGA win yesterday, Koepka has vaulted to #2 in Ryder Cup points. He is also member of PGA of America, which runs the Cup, PGA Tour has nothing to do with it. He's pretty much a lock, doesn't need Zach to use captains pick.
With 3 months to go, Brooks is anything but a "lock" to make the Top 6, unless he also wins one of the (2) remaining Opens.
Mleeja
05-22-2023, 08:15 PM
With 3 months to go, Brooks is anything but a "lock" to make the Top 6, unless he also wins one of the (2) remaining Opens.
I do not know how points are allocated, but if Keopka is currently #2 in Ryder Cup points, how can he drop out of the top 6 if he does not win one of the last two majors? What if Rahm or Roy wins the majors. They are certainly not going to be on the US team.
Rwirish
05-23-2023, 04:47 AM
Easy answer, no. He made his decision.
hypart
05-23-2023, 05:21 AM
The Ryder Cup is a team event. I don't think it'll be up to the points system or Zack Johnson. I think the qualifying players will vote him in or not. And it will probably have to be unanimous.
It'll be interesting to see since LIV is suing the PGA tour, which is owned by the players. This has made many current players unhappy with LIV and former players like Couples, who will be assisting Zach.
If Koepka being on the team will make things awkward then it's probably best he doesn't join the team.
golfing eagles
05-23-2023, 05:32 AM
The Ryder Cup is a team event. I don't think it'll be up to the points system or Zack Johnson. I think the qualifying players will vote him in or not. And it will probably have to be unanimous.
It'll be interesting to see since LIV is suing the PGA tour, which is owned by the players. This has made many current players unhappy with LIV and former players like Couples, who will be assisting Zach.
If Koepka being on the team will make things awkward then it's probably best he doesn't join the team.
A vote?????? Let's keep that in mind if the captain's picks ever become a democracy. And unanimous at that??? The player's "own" the PGA tour????? Let's hope you're not planning on becoming the next PGA commissioner:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Andyhope
05-23-2023, 05:39 AM
Nope
hypart
05-23-2023, 06:17 AM
A vote?????? Let's keep that in mind if the captain's picks ever become a democracy. And unanimous at that???
If someone like Justin Thomas, a critic of the LIV lawsuit, says I won't play with Koepka, not likely Johnson will pick Koepka to be on the team.
The player's "own" the PGA tour????? Let's hope you're not planning on becoming the next PGA commissioner
The PGA tour is a non-profit member organization.
Rainger99
05-23-2023, 06:22 AM
I do not know how points are allocated, but if Keopka is currently #2 in Ryder Cup points, how can he drop out of the top 6 if he does not win one of the last two majors?
2023
1 point per $1,000 earned at regular PGA Tour events beginning January 1, including the Zurich Classic and WGC events, through the BMW Championship (August 20)
2 points per $1,000 earned for winner of the Masters, PGA Championship, U.S. Open and The Open
1.5 points per $1,000 earned for all others that make the cut at the Masters, PGA Championship, U.S. Open and The Open
No points available at PGA Tour opposite-field events
The top 6 are
Scottie Scheffler 20,235
Brooks Koepka 8,936
Max Homa 7,314
Xander Schauffele 7292
Patrick Cantlay 6871
Cameron Young 6629
Ryder Cup Standings | ESPN (https://www.espn.com/golf/standings)
Erider
05-23-2023, 07:00 AM
With 3 months to go, Brooks is anything but a "lock" to make the Top 6, unless he also wins one of the (2) remaining Opens.
2017: T11 (Masters), 1 (US Open), T6 (Open), T13 (PGA)
2018: 1 (US Open), T39 (Open), 1 (PGA)
2019: T2 (Masters), 1 (PGA)
2023: T2 (Masters), 1 (PGA)
txfan
05-23-2023, 08:02 AM
Absolutely, he should be on the Ryder Cup, and any other US-represented golf team.
Like anyone else, he received a job offer for more income - much of it guaranteed. He accepted that job offer.
If Saudi Arabia is in good standing with the United States Government, why not it's citizens who work with, or for a Saudi entity?
From the official State Department website:
U.S.-SAUDI ARABIA RELATIONS
Following recognition in 1931, the United States and Saudi Arabia established full diplomatic relations, with exchange of credentials and appointment of the first U.S. ambassador (initially resident in Cairo) , in 1940. Saudi Arabia’s unique role in the Arab and Islamic worlds, its holding of the world’s second largest reserves of oil, and its strategic location all play a role in the long-standing bilateral relationship between the Kingdom and the United States. The United States and Saudi Arabia have a common interest in preserving the stability, security, and prosperity of the Gulf region and consult closely on a wide range of regional and global issues. Saudi Arabia plays an important role in working toward a peaceful and prosperous future for the region and is a strong partner in security and counterterrorism efforts and in military, diplomatic, and financial cooperation. Its forces work closely with U.S. military and law enforcement bodies to safeguard both countries’ national security interests. The United States and Saudi Arabia also enjoy robust cultural and educational ties with tens of thousands of Saudi students studying in U.S. colleges and universities and scores of educational and cultural exchange visitors each year. The United States also provides promising youth and emerging Saudi leaders the opportunity to experience the United States and its institutions through the International Visitor Leadership Program and various other exchange programs.
U.S. Cooperation with Saudi Arabia
The United States and Saudi Arabia have a longstanding security relationship. Saudi Arabia is the United States’ largest foreign military sales (FMS) customer, with more than $100 billion in active FMS cases. Through FMS, the United States has supported three key security assistance organizations in Saudi Arabia—the Ministry of Defense, the National Guard, and the Ministry of Interior. Since the 1950s, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has also played a vital role in military and civilian construction in Saudi Arabia.
Additional programs support closer cultural, educational, and institutional ties between the United States and Saudi Arabia. The U.S.-Saudi partnership is rooted in more than seven decades of close friendship and cooperation, enriched by the exchange opportunities that are key to the promotion of mutual understanding and the long-term development of ties between our two peoples. In cooperation with the Government of Saudi Arabia, the United States provides technical support in areas such as education, trade, and economic development.
Bilateral Economic Relations
The United States and Saudi Arabia enjoy a strong economic relationship. The United States is Saudi Arabia’s second largest trading partner, and Saudi Arabia is one of the United States’ largest trading partners in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia is the third leading source of imported oil for the United States, providing about half a million barrels per day of oil to the U.S. market. The United States and Saudi Arabia have signed a Trade Investment Framework Agreement. Saudi Arabia launched its Vision 2030 program in April 2016, laying out plans to diversify the economy, including through increased trade and investment with the United States and other countries.
Saudi Arabia’s Membership in International Organizations
Saudi Arabia participates in a number of international organizations, including the United Nations, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, and World Trade Organization. Saudi Arabia also is an observer to the Organization of American States.
Regorp
05-23-2023, 08:18 AM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
No. Not in PGA, not on Ryder Cup team. Plenty of very good young players for the team who are eligible. I like Koepka, but he made his choice to leave PGA.
Federspiel
05-23-2023, 08:24 AM
Yes, send the best to Ryder
dewilson58
05-23-2023, 08:24 AM
No. Not in PGA, not on Ryder Cup team. Plenty of very good young players for the team who are eligible. I like Koepka, but he made his choice to leave PGA.
Isn't he still a PGA member??
Golfer222
05-23-2023, 09:22 AM
Isn't he still a PGA member??
No- He is not
talonip
05-23-2023, 10:20 AM
Ryder cup is about playing for your country. It’s not about playing for Brandal Chamblee or the PGA or LIV. European players play on the European tour? The best players should be selected. This isn’t about politics.
kkingston57
05-23-2023, 10:48 AM
“PGA of America membership is a requirement to be eligible to participate on the U.S. Ryder Cup Team. Under the PGA of America membership rules there are classifications that currently allow LIV Tour members to retain their PGA of America membership status. PGA TOUR members are considered A3 classification. Because the LIV players paid their membership dues before June 30, 2022, they will retain their membership through the end of June 2023 and then through a grace period that runs through the end of June 2024. After that, under our current rules, they may apply for PGA’s Reserve Member classification. A3 members who resigned or are no longer PGA TOUR Members (suspended) are still PGA of America members.”
Therein lies the $$$ hypocrisy. You are out ---------- except.........
Thanks for posting these rules.
dewilson58
05-23-2023, 10:55 AM
No- He is not
R U Sure???.................Per R:
“PGA of America membership is a requirement to be eligible to participate on the U.S. Ryder Cup Team. Under the PGA of America membership rules there are classifications that currently allow LIV Tour members to retain their PGA of America membership status. PGA TOUR members are considered A3 classification. Because the LIV players paid their membership dues before June 30, 2022, they will retain their membership through the end of June 2023 and then through a grace period that runs through the end of June 2024. After that, under our current rules, they may apply for PGA’s Reserve Member classification. A3 members who resigned or are no longer PGA TOUR Members (suspended) are still PGA of America members.”
ILLINOIS RAY
05-23-2023, 11:31 AM
Rather lose than win with Koepka on the team.
Golfer222
05-23-2023, 11:32 AM
[QUOTE=dewilson58;2220264]R U Sure???
Yes
Two Bills
05-23-2023, 12:16 PM
Definitely no.
Same for Scottie Scheffler. Want him off the team also.
He is playing far too well, and consistently.
Go Europe! :icon_wink:
Golfer222
05-23-2023, 12:50 PM
Blood Money
Bellavita
05-23-2023, 12:59 PM
No. Blood money from Saudis I can’t tolerate people who took the money to make killer’s lose k ok. Not to mention women’s rights.
Money is the root of all evil.
Where is their moral compass?
Lets your kids make their own money. That is a sorry excuse.
dewilson58
05-23-2023, 01:08 PM
Seems to be a money trail from Saudi purchasing merchandise from companies who pay the TV networks for advertising who pay the PGA.
Double Standard for LIV haters???
:shrug:
JGVillages
05-23-2023, 01:43 PM
[QUOTE=hypart;2220139]If someone like Justin Thomas, a critic of the LIV lawsuit, says I won't play with Koepka, not likely Johnson will pick Koepka to be on the team.
In that case then Thomas should be dropped, if Koepka can legitimately play
Rainger99
05-23-2023, 02:20 PM
The PGA is in bed with China. I don't understand why are people more upset with Saudi Arabia than they are with China.
The PGA Tour’s Sportswashing Problem in China – InsideSources (https://insidesources.com/the-pga-tours-sportswashing-problem-in-china/)
And a few PGA players played in the Saudi International this year. Cameron Young, a PGA member who is right now in the top 6 in Ryder Cup points, finished second.
According to this survey, China has a worse human rights record than Saudi Arabia (the lower the number, the better the rating - it is like golf).
Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com (https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/human_rights_rule_law_index/)
Erider
05-23-2023, 02:59 PM
No- He is not
You are confused. Brooks is currently a member of the PGA of America. He is not a member of the PGA Tour.
Erider
05-23-2023, 03:07 PM
No. Blood money from Saudis I can’t tolerate people who took the money to make killer’s lose k ok. Not to mention women’s rights.
Money is the root of all evil.
Where is their moral compass?
Lets your kids make their own money. That is a sorry excuse.
LOL. Virtually every western country has assassinated and killed innocents, stolen resources, etc etc
PS. I don't think allowing biological males to compete in women's sports is a shining beacon for women's rights.
Teemotay
05-23-2023, 03:09 PM
Seems to be a money trail from Saudi purchasing merchandise from companies who pay the TV networks for advertising who pay the PGA.
Double Standard for LIV haters???
:shrug:
Yes, there definitely is a double standard. Several large corporations that are major sponsors of PGA TOUR events have significant operations and income from Saudi Arabia. That money goes into the pockets of the PGA TOUR players, but I guess that’s acceptable 🙄
eweissenbach
05-23-2023, 03:15 PM
In my opinion, LIV golfers made a choice for big money. I have no problem with that, but I do think many of them have been disingenuous about their rational - shorter season, more family time, etc. IT WAS FOR THE MONEY! If you got generational wealth and want more time off then you shouldn’t expect, or desire to play in non LIV events. Something about having your cake and eating it too! If a baseball player leaves the Dodgers and signs with the Yankees he can’t expect to be selected to play in the National League All Star game.
jjombrello
05-23-2023, 03:51 PM
In a word, NO!
Rainger99
05-23-2023, 03:57 PM
If a baseball player leaves the Dodgers and signs with the Yankees he can’t expect to be selected to play in the National League All Star game.
That is true. But if the US was choosing an international baseball team (like the 2020 Olympics or the World Baseball Classic), the player should be eligible for the USA team.
I assume that Nikola Jokić will be eligible to play for the Serbian basketball team in the Olympics even though he plays in the NBA.
dewilson58
05-23-2023, 05:11 PM
According to this survey, China has a worse human rights record than Saudi Arabia (the lower the number, the better the rating - it is like golf).
Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com (https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/human_rights_rule_law_index/)
How many LIV haters can walk thru their house and have nothing made in China??
How do LIV haters determine their gas is/was not from Saudi??
:crap2:
BrianL99
05-23-2023, 05:28 PM
A vote?????? Let's keep that in mind if the captain's picks ever become a democracy. And unanimous at that??? The player's "own" the PGA tour????? Let's hope you're not planning on becoming the next PGA commissioner:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Jay Monahan isn't doing such a hot job so far and might be gone soon. You never know.
Mleeja
05-23-2023, 05:32 PM
[QUOTE=hypart;2220139]If someone like Justin Thomas, a critic of the LIV lawsuit, says I won't play with Koepka, not likely Johnson will pick Koepka to be on the team.
In that case then Thomas should be dropped, if Koepka can legitimately play
The way Thomas has been playing maybe he shouldn’t be playing…
BrianL99
05-23-2023, 05:41 PM
Isn't he still a PGA member??
No- He is not
According to this article, Brooks has not resigned his PGA of America Membership: Brooks Koepka explains why he left the PGA Tour to join LIV Golf (https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/2022/06/28/brooks-koepka-explains-why-he-left-pga-tour-join-liv-golf/7745346001/) (& per the PGA Rules posted by Rusty, he would still be in the 1 year grace period, even if he forgot to pay this year.)
Of course, Seth Waugh is bigger jerk than Jay Monahan (if that's even possible) ... who knows what he's liable to do.
Brooks Koepka shares awkward encounter with PGA of America CEO Seth Waugh during trophy presentation | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/brooks-koepka-shares-awkward-encounter-pga-america-ceo-seth-waugh-during-trophy-presentation)
Erider
05-24-2023, 09:54 AM
In my opinion, LIV golfers made a choice for big money. I have no problem with that, but I do think many of them have been disingenuous about their rational - shorter season, more family time, etc. IT WAS FOR THE MONEY! If you got generational wealth and want more time off then you shouldn’t expect, or desire to play in non LIV events. Something about having your cake and eating it too! If a baseball player leaves the Dodgers and signs with the Yankees he can’t expect to be selected to play in the National League All Star game.
On the other hand every LIV hater cites a bunch of bs reasons why it's bad blah blah blah but it's plain to see they are jealous about the money.
ITS ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-24-2023, 10:22 AM
In my opinion, LIV golfers made a choice for big money. I have no problem with that, but I do think many of them have been disingenuous about their rational - shorter season, more family time, etc. IT WAS FOR THE MONEY! If you got generational wealth and want more time off then you shouldn’t expect, or desire to play in non LIV events. Something about having your cake and eating it too! If a baseball player leaves the Dodgers and signs with the Yankees he can’t expect to be selected to play in the National League All Star game.
It was a combination of both. You'l notice that many of the more well known players that went to LIV have either had significant injuries (Brooks Koepka) or are at the tail end of their careers (Phil Mickelson, Sergio Garcia). Many of the less know players like Kevin Na may have felt that they were never going to be the next Tiger Woods and decided that LIV was better got him and his family.
These guys know that they can make a lot more money while playing fewer tournaments and have more time to spend with their families. In the case of Koepka, it seems that he was looking at possibly not being able to play at the high level that he has played at in the past due to his injuries. He opted to play a tour that pays more money and plays fewer events. He may regret that choice if he is injury free over the next twenty years. Then again, he might chalk up the lack of injuries to playing less golf.
But even if they did go for the money, so what? If someone offered you a job working half the hours for twice the pay, doing the same thing, would you have not taken it? The only reason not to would be if you were concerned about your legacy which many of the tour players have stated as the reason for playing on the PGA Tour.
Evidently, some like Patrick Reid are not worried about their legacy. He and Mickelson were not liked by many of the PGA Tour players and that may have been another reason that some jumped.
Like anything else, there is usually not one simple reason. It's usually a combination of factors. Each of these people that their own personal reasons for going to LIV. And it's none of our business.
if Koepka remains a member of the PGA of America and in the top six in points he's on the team. If were not allowed to play, the PGA of America would open themselves up to a lawsuit.
If he's not in the top six, then the captain has a right to pick him.
kkingston57
05-24-2023, 12:45 PM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
Would hope that there are those pesky thing called rules. It should be the USA's best against Europe's best. Europe would not have this problem as all of the LIV players are past their prime.
dewilson58
05-24-2023, 12:47 PM
as all of the LIV players are past their prime.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
rustyp
06-06-2023, 05:54 PM
“PGA of America membership is a requirement to be eligible to participate on the U.S. Ryder Cup Team. Under the PGA of America membership rules there are classifications that currently allow LIV Tour members to retain their PGA of America membership status. PGA TOUR members are considered A3 classification. Because the LIV players paid their membership dues before June 30, 2022, they will retain their membership through the end of June 2023 and then through a grace period that runs through the end of June 2024. After that, under our current rules, they may apply for PGA’s Reserve Member classification. A3 members who resigned or are no longer PGA TOUR Members (suspended) are still PGA of America members.”
Therein lies the $$$ hypocrisy. You are out ---------- except.........
Did I call this ? Profit trumps hypocrisy !
BrianL99
08-20-2023, 07:45 PM
With 3 months to go, Brooks is anything but a "lock" to make the Top 6, unless he also wins one of the (2) remaining Opens.
I do not know how points are allocated, but if Keopka is currently #2 in Ryder Cup points, how can he drop out of the top 6 if he does not win one of the last two majors? What if Rahm or Roy wins the majors. They are certainly not going to be on the US team.
As predicted.
Brooks Koepka loses out on automatic Ryder Cup berth - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38230206/brooks-koepka-loses-automatic-ryder-cup-berth)
Rainger99
08-20-2023, 07:49 PM
As predicted.
Brooks Koepka loses out on automatic Ryder Cup berth - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38230206/brooks-koepka-loses-automatic-ryder-cup-berth)
Original question still stands.
swooner
08-21-2023, 06:25 AM
Brooks Koepka won the PGA today and finished second in the Masters.
Should he play on the USA Ryder Cup team?
Hell no!
Joeint
08-21-2023, 08:30 AM
Absolutely yes!
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