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Mike3461
05-22-2023, 02:44 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
OrangeBlossomBaby
05-22-2023, 03:58 PM
We have one of each. I don't recall how old they are, we got them used. I think the Club Car is a 2016. It's a Precedent. The Yamaha is however many years ago it was, the year before they came up with the QuietTouch. Both of them work fine. The Club Car had to get a new volt regulator this past year, and got a new battery last year. We installed a USB charge port and speedometer to the Yamaha when we bought it in late 2019.
Other than that there's really nothing more to say about them. They do what they're supposed to do, exactly how they're supposed to do them.
Joeint
05-22-2023, 04:05 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
The club car seems much louder than the 2017 + Yamaha quiet tech.
CoachKandSportsguy
05-22-2023, 04:21 PM
We have a Club Precedent electric lead acid battery.
I would not recommend relying SOLELY on an electric cart. If you run out of electricity for any reason, a tow is required. There aint no electron fill cap . . . Also the batteries do require monthly maintenance and have a life, . . $1500 to replace all the batteries at the current prices.
Likewise the max distance between the two is 10's of miles on a tankful/batteryful. A gas cart is good for long distance golf course travel, and simple cost to repair.
I personally will not buy a lithium ion battery due to the risk of fire. No matter how you spin it, if it catches fire, you can't put it out yourself as its a chemical fire, and very hot and very long burning
woolman44
05-22-2023, 04:38 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
I bought a CC Precedent new in 2008. I’ve replaced voltage regulator twice. I also had to replace front steering suspension bushings. Both repairs inexpensive DIY and not complicated. The 2008 CC has excellent Kawasaki engine with pressurized oil system with oil filter, which I think is better than Yamaha set up.
Bought new Yamaha 2018 Quiet Tech. No problems so far, but need to grease drive clutch frequently. I know multiple Villagers who have had issues with drive clutch. Front tire wear is also problematic due to toe-in. Suspension on Yamaha is more robust and better in my opinion than CC. Driving position and seat room much better than CC.
JMintzer
05-22-2023, 06:09 PM
We have a Club Precedent electric lead acid battery.
I would not recommend relying SOLELY on an electric cart. If you run out of electricity for any reason, a tow is required. There aint no electron fill cap . . . Also the batteries do require monthly maintenance and have a life, . . $1500 to replace all the batteries at the current prices.
Likewise the max distance between the two is 10's of miles on a tankful/batteryful. A gas cart is good for long distance golf course travel, and simple cost to repair.
I personally will not buy a lithium ion battery due to the risk of fire. No matter how you spin it, if it catches fire, you can't put it out yourself as its a chemical fire, and very hot and very long burning
That might be why the OP specifically asked about the difference between "GAS powered" Club Cars and Yamahas...
Mleeja
05-22-2023, 08:26 PM
I have a 2016 gas Club Car cart. I’ve replaced the battery twice and tires once. Mechanically nothing major. My only complaint is the noise. I think Club Car is “missing the boat” by not having a quieter engine. We also have an electric cart. I much prefer to take this cart when doing non-golf activities.
Woodbear
05-23-2023, 12:27 AM
I have a gas 2016 Club Car Precedent and a gas 2014 Yamaha EFI. The main negative with the Club Car is the loud Subaru engine. You have to watch the bushings on the Club Car as they will affect tire wear. Top speed on the Club Car is 22 with 205/50-10 tires. I have bigger tires on the Yamaha and it has no problem getting up to 25. I have way more torque in the Club Car. I can easily chirp the tires (even when I do not want too).
Both vehicles have been reliable. Bushings and a motor mount for the Club Car. Multiple solenoids for the Yamaha. Just today my new 2023 Yamaha showed up at Country Village Power. Once it is all put together, the Club Car will become the daughters.
Pairadocs
05-23-2023, 01:00 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Have owned various makes over our life time, think our first one was used Harley Davidson, had a couple Yamaha's through the years, no negatives. But presently have Club Car, 18 years old, still looks like new, love the wide bench seat (did get custom marine vinyl for comfort of temperature). Maintenance has been very minimal, clean oil and filter, a quick 10-15 min. job on our model, occasional new filter on gas line (5 min. job, easy to see and reach), and new tires a couple times, and only one new battery in 18 years of use ! Only twice in 18 years had a fuse go bad ! This year was the only expensive repair by a technician, everything else has been simple things both I or hubby could easily do. Had the bushings, etc. all redone as steering was getting "loose". $480 to redo all, but after 18 years of use with no break downs or mechanical difficulty, Club car gas has definitely been the best we've ever had going back to the 70's.
8v92ta
05-23-2023, 04:22 AM
The best advertisement for Yamaha is drive a club car. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a club car after driving a Yamaha
Southwest737
05-23-2023, 04:50 AM
I personally will not buy a lithium ion battery due to the risk of fire. No matter how you spin it, if it catches fire, you can't put it out yourself as its a chemical fire, and very hot and very long burning[/QUOTE]
When was the last time a lithium powered cart burned up in TV? Never? I have seen a few gasoline powered carts burn.
Down Sized
05-23-2023, 04:57 AM
I’ve been here 13 years. I have owned one Club cart and two Yamaha carts. I would not consider any other cart than Yamaha.
Before Covid happened the Villages cart sales told me about 90% sales was Yamaha gas carts. The like everything else Yamaha got behind on production and newbies started buying what ever the Villages could get in stock.
Laker14
05-23-2023, 05:21 AM
Almost all of my golf buddies have Yamahas. Recently one of my golf crew bought an Onward, a few years old. I found it considerably cramped, compared to the Yamahas. I think it would be fine for a couple of people to cruise around, but for two decent size golfers, with water bottles, and rangefinders and towels, there just wasn't enough space, IMO, Especially compared to the Yamaha.
Sandy and Ed
05-23-2023, 05:45 AM
The club car seems much louder than the 2017 + Yamaha quiet tech.
Agree
NoMo50
05-23-2023, 06:53 AM
The Yamaha QuieTech carts (2017 and up) are much quieter, and have a much better ride. Most likely due to the Yamaha having independent suspension.
MarkD1981
05-23-2023, 07:32 AM
I bought a new Club Car Onward when moving here in December 2020. Saved $2k over the Yamaha. Big mistake. My golf friends all have Yamahas. Much quieter, smoother ride, handle better. I have had no issues with the Onward, it is just inferior to the Yamaha.
Rickg
05-23-2023, 07:37 AM
We back up to to golf cart traffic. I can tell when a Club Car is coming since it has the loudest engine noise of any cart in TV. I’m sure they are as reliable as any other brand.
banjobob
05-23-2023, 08:03 AM
I have a 2007 club car gas, very reliable as with all older units piece meal repairs are required ,no major problems other than wear items .
Law abiding citizen
05-23-2023, 08:05 AM
Almost all of my golf buddies have Yamahas. Recently one of my golf crew bought an Onward, a few years old. I found it considerably cramped, compared to the Yamahas. I think it would be fine for a couple of people to cruise around, but for two decent size golfers, with water bottles, and rangefinders and towels, there just wasn't enough space, IMO, Especially compared to the Yamaha.
I had Voltage Regulator issues with the Club Car along with the starter/generator eating up brushes. The Yamaha was a no problem machine for years, and a MUCH SMOOTHER ride.
Yamaha for my money all the way.
jamesrcorbett
05-23-2023, 09:27 AM
We evaluated both the Yamaha quite tech and the Club Car electric. You can actually drive and talk to one another in the Electric Club Car. Decided not to go with the ion batteries because of the fire danger. Our range is 50+ miles. Noise and comfort were our major concerns and the Club Car electric delivered both.
JMintzer
05-23-2023, 10:08 AM
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JMintzer
05-23-2023, 10:09 AM
I personally will not buy a lithium ion battery due to the risk of fire. No matter how you spin it, if it catches fire, you can't put it out yourself as its a chemical fire, and very hot and very long burning
When was the last time a lithium powered cart burned up in TV? Never? I have seen a few gasoline powered carts burn.
No one asked about Lithium batteries in this thread...
LeannWilliams64
05-23-2023, 10:41 AM
I have a 2021 gas club car. The motor is rather loud. They do not put the casing around the motor like Yamaha does, keeping the motor color. I’m sure they can explain it better than I can but the casing makes the motor run hotter.
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
kkingston57
05-23-2023, 10:55 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
I am a tall person and It is much easier for me to get into a Yamaha and they are a lot quieter if you get a Quietech model.
kkingston57
05-23-2023, 11:01 AM
I have a 2016 gas Club Car cart. I’ve replaced the battery twice and tires once. Mechanically nothing major. My only complaint is the noise. I think Club Car is “missing the boat” by not having a quieter engine. We also have an electric cart. I much prefer to take this cart when doing non-golf activities.
Club Car probably did not miss the boat on quieter cart for their entire market. Bet 90% of the market on carts is electrical, not gas.
GNXGuy
05-24-2023, 04:57 AM
Club car is much louder than Yamaha. We also noticed a lot less leg room in the club car as well as the angle of the “firewall”
Where your feet would press on is much steeper and less comfortable. Club car uses a Kohler motor now.
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
gettingby
05-24-2023, 05:15 AM
Moved here (from Orlando) with a 2020 Club Car. At 14 horsepower it had lots of power and we could drive it all day. Test drove a Yamaha quiet tech and man was it nice. We can actually talk to each other instead of yelling plus we can enjoy music. Purchased the Yamaha, sold the Club Car.
NoMo50
05-24-2023, 05:52 AM
Bet 90% of the market on carts is electrical, not gas.
Huh? Not here in The Villages, it isn't.
hosegooseman
05-24-2023, 08:02 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Have used both and definitely Yamaha over Club Car in all aspects. From quality of construction, sound (Club car is louder) and driving feel. Yamaha is superior in my opinion.
Gigi3000
05-24-2023, 11:15 AM
Have used both and definitely Yamaha over Club Car in all aspects. From quality of construction, sound (Club car is louder) and driving feel. Yamaha is superior in my opinion.
On the Quietec, with the
TWO SEATS THAT FACE FORWARD, do you know if 3 regular sized adults can fit in the rear seat?
roscoguy
05-24-2023, 11:22 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
We had a refurbished 2012 Yamaha (non-QuieTech) gas cart & just bought a new Club Car Onward last year. The Club Car is fairly noisy, but so was the Yamaha until I installed some sound-deadening around the engine compartment. I haven't gotten around to doing the same thing to the CC yet.
I've noticed a couple of differences between the two: the CC is apparently geared lower, so it has more power available, like when climbing the bridge over 441. However, the Yamaha would easily go 25mph while the CC Kohler motor is turning pretty high rpm at the top speed of 19-20mph. You might be able to coax 1 or 2 more mph out of it, but I'm pretty sure that would be the max unless you overrode the rev limiter. It would also very likely void the warranty. Another thing I've noticed is that the CC has a tighter turning radius, which is kind of nice if I need to make a u-turn in the street or driveway.
I'm not crazy about the standard dash storage space or cup holders in the Club Car, but everything else is fine in my opinion. If noise or top speed is the main issue, the Yamaha QT wins. YMMV, but we paid less for the brand new CC than many local dealers were asking for refurbished/upgraded 2017 & 2018 Yamahas.
dpmers
05-25-2023, 11:12 AM
I have a 2007 Club Cart, I put an after market body and low profile wheels, otherwise it runs great, goes 29 if necessary
bcsnave
07-20-2023, 09:17 AM
I bought a new Club Car Onward when moving here in December 2020. Saved $2k over the Yamaha. Big mistake. My golf friends all have Yamahas. Much quieter, smoother ride, handle better. I have had no issues with the Onward, it is just inferior to the Yamaha.
Was this a lifted version of the Onward?
charlie1
07-20-2023, 10:16 AM
The best advertisement for Yamaha is drive a club car. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a club car after driving a Yamaha
AGREE TOTALLY! As least with the newer models. Not sure if it was always that way as I only had Yamaha's prior to moving here. I bought a new Yamaha in 2021!
Eagle06
07-20-2023, 10:48 AM
We have a 2021 Club Car Lithium-Ion powered, 4 Seater, Lifted, Onward and a 2023 Club Car, 2 seater, Gas powered Onward. The Gas Powered Cart is louder than your new Yamahas without doubt. We have had no maintenance issues with either cart.
UpNorth
07-20-2023, 12:04 PM
My country club is leasing a fleet of gas Club Cars this year. Louder than last year's EZ Go's. You can hear one approaching from 500 yards out. If you want quiet, go electric.
mrf0151
07-20-2023, 01:41 PM
If you live in The Villages, then the no brainer is to have the newer (2017 and up) Yamaha gas.
The same Yamaha engine that has been used for years can last over 20 years without much in the way of maintenance. Anything else out there you are taking a chance and could be deemed experimental. Just ask all the golf cart repair guys what one cart they would buy. You will hear exactly what I am talking about.
Deckboat234
07-21-2023, 06:49 AM
On the Quietec, with the
TWO SEATS THAT FACE FORWARD, do you know if 3 regular sized adults can fit in the rear seat?
Gigi3000, i have a 4 forward Yamaha and you would not get 3 adults in the rear seat. The seat is not much bigger (if at all) than the front seat. You can add a rear facing seat to these to get 6 people.
dhdallas
07-21-2023, 11:00 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Anyone buying a gas cart is foolish. I have a 23 year old electric Club Car with 4 12v LiFePO batteries and can go all day and then some without a charge. Almost zero maintenance and very few parts to ever replace. A gas cart has tons of things to go wrong or need maintenance such as air filters, oil filters, belts, fuel injectors or carbs, timing, etc. Plus it requires trips to the gas station or storing flammable gas in a hot garage. My neighbor's cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and it stained the floor & still smells. I have passed many many broken down gas carts on the paths but never an electric cart. Most people are afraid of electric carts running out of juice but I can go from one end of TV to the other and back with battery power left over. Gas powered "everything" is going the way of the dinosaur. Go electric!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/1999-club-car-electic/10055-1999-electric-club-car.jpg
Bilyclub
07-22-2023, 04:29 AM
Anyone buying a gas cart is foolish. I have a 23 year old electric Club Car with 4 12v LiFePO batteries and can go all day and then some without a charge. Almost zero maintenance and very few parts to ever replace. A gas cart has tons of things to go wrong or need maintenance such as air filters, oil filters, belts, fuel injectors or carbs, timing, etc. Plus it requires trips to the gas station or storing flammable gas in a hot garage. My neighbor's cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and it stained the floor & still smells. I have passed many many broken down gas carts on the paths but never an electric cart. Most people are afraid of electric carts running out of juice but I can go from one end of TV to the other and back with battery power left over. Gas powered "everything" is going the way of the dinosaur. Go electric!
So the residents that own Yamaha gas carts are fools? Have you looked around and seen what the vast majority of carts are ? This was not a gas versus electric thread, but there you go. You must have missed a few of those threads about electric owners stealing electricity at rec centers like Everglades.
bcsnave
07-27-2023, 09:48 AM
So the residents that own Yamaha gas carts are fools? Have you looked around and seen what the vast majority of carts are ? This was not a gas versus electric thread, but there you go. You must have missed a few of those threads about electric owners stealing electricity at rec centers like Everglades.
I totally agree with your statement regarding stealing fuel for their electric carts. Those folks feel entitled and raise amenity fees for everyone else due to their own selfishness. If we pulled up to a gas pump and just "filled er' up" and drove off afterward that certainly would be frowned upon.
Myself, nothing against electric powered anything just know the fossil fuel that it takes to make electricity, batteries, etc. Also the mining of cobalt, lithium, and nickel. With nickel mining this metal has been linked to environmental issues such as air and water pollution, soil degradation, and the destruction of natural habitats.
Let's not be "foolish" when we educate ourselves on the green energy initiatives.
Oh and yes we have purchased a 2022 Drive 2 Quietech EFI PTV.
hall8807
07-27-2023, 11:26 AM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Mike. I have owned both and highly prefer the Yamaha. Even the older Yamahas are whiter. Secondly, they are geared higher and as such are typically faster. They don’t sound “wound up” like a club car. Good luck.
bcsnave
08-05-2023, 02:53 PM
My country club is leasing a fleet of gas Club Cars this year. Louder than last year's EZ Go's. You can hear one approaching from 500 yards out. If you want quiet, go electric.
The Yamaha Quietech is pretty good also
kkingston57
08-05-2023, 07:57 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Yamaha is the best gas cart.
dhdallas
08-05-2023, 09:29 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
Anyone buying a gas cart is foolish. I have a 23 year old electric Club Car with 4 12v LiFePO batteries and can go all day and then some without a charge. Almost zero maintenance and very few parts to ever replace. A gas cart has tons of things to go wrong or need maintenance such as air filters, oil filters, belts, fuel injectors or carbs, timing, etc. Plus it requires trips to the gas station or storing flammable gas in a hot garage. They are noisy & the exhaust smells & pollutes. My neighbor's cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and it stained the floor & still smells. I have passed many many broken down gas carts on the paths but never an electric cart. Most people are afraid of electric carts running out of juice but I can go from one end of TV to the other and back with battery power left over. Gas powered "everything" is going the way of the dinosaur. Go electric!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/1999-club-car-electic/10055-1999-electric-club-car.jpg
Bilyclub
08-07-2023, 07:45 AM
Wow, a cut and paste of your post #39. Very creative. We don't care about your electric cart agenda no matter how many times you post it. Yamaha gas is still where it's at.
bcsnave
08-10-2023, 09:04 AM
Wow, a cut and paste of you post #39. Very creative. We don't care about your electric cart agenda no matter how many times you post it. Yamaha gas is still where it's at.
call me stupid but.....studies have revealed that it actually requires more energy to produce an electric car than it does to produce a traditional one. Therefore, the manufacturing process of electric cars has a higher carbon footprint overall. This is mainly down to the materials needed.
The metals required to construct an electric car are more lightweight than those needed for traditional versions. However, manufacturing these high-performance metals requires a lot of energy, which feeds into the production process's overall carbon footprint.
On top of this, it's important to remember that electric cars still require a form of energy to function. So while using electricity to operate doesn't directly release fossil fuels, the production of the electricity itself most likely does.
bcsnave
08-24-2023, 02:44 PM
Anyone buying a gas cart is foolish. I have a 23 year old electric Club Car with 4 12v LiFePO batteries and can go all day and then some without a charge. Almost zero maintenance and very few parts to ever replace. A gas cart has tons of things to go wrong or need maintenance such as air filters, oil filters, belts, fuel injectors or carbs, timing, etc. Plus it requires trips to the gas station or storing flammable gas in a hot garage. My neighbor's cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and it stained the floor & still smells. I have passed many many broken down gas carts on the paths but never an electric cart. Most people are afraid of electric carts running out of juice but I can go from one end of TV to the other and back with battery power left over. Gas powered "everything" is going the way of the dinosaur. Go electric!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/1999-club-car-electic/10055-1999-electric-club-car.jpg
DHDALLAS - Please read this these electric carts can be unsafe https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2245335-post1.html
tophcfa
08-24-2023, 04:22 PM
Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Thank you.
:gc:
We have three gas carts, a 2014 Yamaha EFI, a 2015 Club Car Precedent EFI, and a 2022 Yamaha Quiet Tech.
Based on our experience here are the key comparisons.
- The seating area in the Club Car is too small for taller individuals. I am 6’1” and find it uncomfortable. I have to duck my head to see below the roofline, the legroom is cramped, and it’s a pain in the butt to frequently get in and out of when golfing. My wife is only 5’2” and loves her club car, the seating configuration fits her better than the much more roomy Yamahas. I much prefer the Yamahas.
- The Subaru engine in the Club Car is easily the most powerful of the three, but is also the loudest and it burns noticeably more gas. It is significantly louder than the older Yamaha and doesn’t even compare to the Quiet Tech noise wise. Despite having more power, there is a delay between stepping on the gas and accelerating, but once it kicks in it really takes off.
- The steering on the club car is tighter and more responsive than the 2014 Yamaha, but not as good as the 2022 Quiet Tech which has rack and pinion steering.
- The Club Car takes the bumps the hardest and the Quiet Tech the smoothest, the 2014 Yamaha falls in between.
- The jury is still out on the Quiet Tech because it’s less than a year old and only has 110 hours on it. However, the 2014 Yamaha has been more reliable/maintenance free than the Club Car. In fact, the Yamaha has a perfect reliability record. Nothing besides regular maintenance except for a muffler rattle that was easily fixed with a couple hose clamps. We have had a few issues with the Club Car, nothing serious, just a pain to deal with.
Hope this helps.
Topspinmo
08-24-2023, 04:36 PM
I bought a CC Precedent new in 2008. I’ve replaced voltage regulator twice. I also had to replace front steering suspension bushings. Both repairs inexpensive DIY and not complicated. The 2008 CC has excellent Kawasaki engine with pressurized oil system with oil filter, which I think is better than Yamaha set up.
Bought new Yamaha 2018 Quiet Tech. No problems so far, but need to grease drive clutch frequently. I know multiple Villagers who have had issues with drive clutch. Front tire wear is also problematic due to toe-in. Suspension on Yamaha is more robust and better in my opinion than CC. Driving position and seat room much better than CC.
If you over grease the clutch you are creating problems. Kaw still lawn mower engines, you still have Change oil, filter or no filter.
Topspinmo
08-24-2023, 04:43 PM
We had a refurbished 2012 Yamaha (non-QuieTech) gas cart & just bought a new Club Car Onward last year. The Club Car is fairly noisy, but so was the Yamaha until I installed some sound-deadening around the engine compartment. I haven't gotten around to doing the same thing to the CC yet.
I've noticed a couple of differences between the two: the CC is apparently geared lower, so it has more power available, like when climbing the bridge over 441. However, the Yamaha would easily go 25mph while the CC Kohler motor is turning pretty high rpm at the top speed of 19-20mph. You might be able to coax 1 or 2 more mph out of it, but I'm pretty sure that would be the max unless you overrode the rev limiter. It would also very likely void the warranty. Another thing I've noticed is that the CC has a tighter turning radius, which is kind of nice if I need to make a u-turn in the street or driveway.
I'm not crazy about the standard dash storage space or cup holders in the Club Car, but everything else is fine in my opinion. If noise or top speed is the main issue, the Yamaha QT wins. YMMV, but we paid less for the brand new CC than many local dealers were asking for refurbished/upgraded 2017 & 2018 Yamahas.
CC are made cheaper so naturally they will be cheaper, nothing wrong with that if entry level meets your needs.
Topspinmo
08-24-2023, 04:48 PM
I personally will not buy a lithium ion battery due to the risk of fire. No matter how you spin it, if it catches fire, you can't put it out yourself as its a chemical fire, and very hot and very long burning
When was the last time a lithium powered cart burned up in TV? Never? I have seen a few gasoline powered carts burn.[/QUOTE]
They haven’t been around very long. Ask that question in 5 more years.
bcsnave
08-24-2023, 04:52 PM
When was the last time a lithium powered cart burned up in TV? Never? I have seen a few gasoline powered carts burn.
They haven’t been around very long. Ask that question in 5 more years.[/QUOTE]
You need to see this ...just 2 months ago... https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/2248959-post1.html
bcsnave
08-24-2023, 04:56 PM
When was the last time a lithium powered cart burned up in TV? Never? I have seen a few gasoline powered carts burn.
They haven’t been around very long. Ask that question in 5 more years.[/QUOTE]
Why ..why..why
Pairadocs
08-24-2023, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=Mike3461;2220013]Do you have a late model Club Car brand golf cart? Have you also owned Yamaha? What is your opinion of each?
If you have an older Club Car, is your longevity and repair experience acceptable?
Unfortunately those of us who answer will be so diversified you probably won't get much help, but here goes. Our new Club Car Tempo was delivered a mo. ago. Our trade in, an 18 year old Club car was running
great the day they picked it up and brought the new one. Over the years we've had most popular brands, EZ-Go, Yamaha, etc. and way back, I mean WAY back, one no longer made, a Harley Davidson ! Only one electric and that was enough for us (one electric EZ-Go), but to each their own. That is not the topic here, gas versus electric. We bought a club car again because the 18 year old one was just a work horse with only minimum maintenance... ALL done at home. Twice a year oil and filter and a new gas filter. In all those years, and all those rounds of golf, replaced the tires ONCE, and the new set did cost much more and wore out MUCH faster ! Replaced the battery ONCE in 18 years and the spark plug twice ! At the time we bought the new one a month ago, it did need more than "home maintenance" as the turn signal was not working and oil and filter is about as far as our skills go. Club car is the only one we've ever had through our whole life that took so little maintenance and ran perfectly. Relative in the field of course design and construction, who travels the country and beyond, told us that is why you will always find more golf courses whose fleets are Club Car than any of the other brands. He readily admitted the others are just fine, but Club Car is the choice of more fleets at courses due to its ability to withstand super hard wear from all manner of drivers who do some crazy things with the carts and yet still go on and on and on. No real negatives about the other brands we've owned, but the EZ-Go electric was just not for us. The Yamaha was just "okay", required more professional (expensive) maintenance for all kinds of "this and that" little annoyances but would not "bad mouth" Yamaha at all. It's just the amazing amount of abuse and neglect a Club Car tolerates that keeps us loyal...LOL !
Pairadocs
08-24-2023, 10:55 PM
Huh? Not here in The Villages, it isn't.
Definitely NOT on most of the golf courses in the whole country either. A few fleets of electric but few and far between !
Pairadocs
08-24-2023, 11:08 PM
Anyone buying a gas cart is foolish. I have a 23 year old electric Club Car with 4 12v LiFePO batteries and can go all day and then some without a charge. Almost zero maintenance and very few parts to ever replace. A gas cart has tons of things to go wrong or need maintenance such as air filters, oil filters, belts, fuel injectors or carbs, timing, etc. Plus it requires trips to the gas station or storing flammable gas in a hot garage. My neighbor's cart leaked gas and oil in their garage and it stained the floor & still smells. I have passed many many broken down gas carts on the paths but never an electric cart. Most people are afraid of electric carts running out of juice but I can go from one end of TV to the other and back with battery power left over. Gas powered "everything" is going the way of the dinosaur. Go electric!
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No disrespect, but sure hope you are wrong ! Watched the CEO of Ford, who decided to take a new Ford electric vehicle on a cross country vacation. Did you happen to see him on the news ? I was STUNNED he was so honest ! Said it was a night mare and that it really helped him understand why many people are so negative about their electric autos. Golf carts a different story, but sure hope your prediction is erroneous, had many golf carts, but only one electric, one way enough for us. But to each their own. We all have things that are most important to us. We've found an oil change and a filter a nothing burger, about 10-15 min. twice a year. Compared to what we paid for batteries and the way the meter would "spin" while it charged, it was just not practical for us. We don't actually keep gasoline in the garage... except in our auto...LOL... but the gas cart we find much more practical than the electric we had. Good thing there are many choices and brands !
bcsnave
08-25-2023, 09:05 AM
No disrespect, but sure hope you are wrong ! Watched the CEO of Ford, who decided to take a new Ford electric vehicle on a cross country vacation. Did you happen to see him on the news ? I was STUNNED he was so honest ! Said it was a night mare and that it really helped him understand why many people are so negative about their electric autos. Golf carts a different story, but sure hope your prediction is erroneous, had many golf carts, but only one electric, one way enough for us. But to each their own. We all have things that are most important to us. We've found an oil change and a filter a nothing burger, about 10-15 min. twice a year. Compared to what we paid for batteries and the way the meter would "spin" while it charged, it was just not practical for us. We don't actually keep gasoline in the garage... except in our auto...LOL... but the gas cart we find much more practical than the electric we had. Good thing there are many choices and brands !
I am with you on this, as I do my own maintenace. Even if I paid someone to oil change, plug, air filter, and valve adjust for $160/yr...I will be long gone before I ever make up the cost of replacing batteries every 7 years. (People say Lithium last 10 years but I remember LED light bulbs were supposed to last 25...I replace some every couple of years)
bcsnave
08-25-2023, 10:53 AM
No disrespect, but sure hope you are wrong ! Watched the CEO of Ford, who decided to take a new Ford electric vehicle on a cross country vacation. Did you happen to see him on the news ? I was STUNNED he was so honest ! Said it was a night mare and that it really helped him understand why many people are so negative about their electric autos. Golf carts a different story, but sure hope your prediction is erroneous, had many golf carts, but only one electric, one way enough for us. But to each their own. We all have things that are most important to us. We've found an oil change and a filter a nothing burger, about 10-15 min. twice a year. Compared to what we paid for batteries and the way the meter would "spin" while it charged, it was just not practical for us. We don't actually keep gasoline in the garage... except in our auto...LOL... but the gas cart we find much more practical than the electric we had. Good thing there are many choices and brands !
@Pairadocs ...Mmmmm..I like nothing burgers with cheese
bcsnave
08-25-2023, 08:30 PM
@Pairadocs ...Mmmmm..I like nothing burgers with cheese
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Pairadocs
08-25-2023, 09:02 PM
[QUOTE=bcsnave;2239199]I totally agree with your statement regarding stealing fuel for their electric carts. Those folks feel entitled and raise amenity fees for everyone else due to their own selfishness. If we pulled up to a gas pump and just "filled er' up" and drove off afterward that certainly would be frowned upon.
Myself, nothing against electric powered anything just know the fossil fuel that it takes to make electricity, batteries, etc. Also the mining of cobalt, lithium, and nickel. With nickel mining this metal has been linked to environmental issues such as air and water pollution, soil degradation, and the destruction of natural habitats.
Let's not be "foolish" when we educate ourselves on the green energy initiatives.
You are one of the VERY few people who seem to realize the actual "costs" (in dollars and in devastation of the environment) of producing electricity. Good for you to attempt to bring this to the attention of others. Having "electric" lights in our homes, nearly every citizen no matter how poor in our country, has electric lights. But this trend to electric everything, autos, lawn mowers, hand tools, stoves, ovens just never ending demand for making more and more and MORE electricity.. this is off the golf cart topic, but we all, rather we love our electric cart, or our gasoline cart, really need to slow down and think if our dreams of every item of daily life depending on batteries or just demanding more electricity from our electric companies... may turn out to be more a nightmare than a dream !
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