The understaffing of Coleman is a concern

[HandyGrandpap]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,

Statement by credible Employee:

“While this number may sound sufficient, FCC Coleman is short staffed by 100 officers. This translates to 554 officers split between five institutions and five shifts, attempting to supervise 6,219 individuals convicted of committing crimes such as murder, drug trafficking, and sexual violations of our most vulnerable population, children,” Perry said.

The leadership of FCC Coleman reported staffing numbers at 91 percent.

“However, the complex suffers with daily vacant posts of approximately 175 positions equating to a staffing percentage in the 70’s,” Perry added.


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[rjn5656]

Credible employee? Union leadership. Who usually have an agenda.

[Gpsma]

Im less worried about inmates getting out then those on the outside that should be in there.

[vintageogauge]

It's been that way for years they're trying to get what they want by using scare tactics.

[Papa_lecki]

No big deal, as long as there’s only one escape a year…..

Last escape, April 2022 (LAST YEAR) - a mob hit man.

[dewilson58]

Might be able to hire staff if they weren't union.

:thumbup:

[Stu from NYC]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,

Statement by credible Employee:

“While this number may sound sufficient, FCC Coleman is short staffed by 100 officers. This translates to 554 officers split between five institutions and five shifts, attempting to supervise 6,219 individuals convicted of committing crimes such as murder, drug trafficking, and sexual violations of our most vulnerable population, children,” Perry said.

The leadership of FCC Coleman reported staffing numbers at 91 percent.

“However, the complex suffers with daily vacant posts of approximately 175 positions equating to a staffing percentage in the 70’s,” Perry added.


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Credible? How do we really know?

[Bilyclub]

No big deal, as long as there’s only one escape a year…..

Last escape, April 2022 (LAST YEAR) - a mob hit man.


Not really a true escape. He was allowed out and did not return.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Not really a true escape. He was allowed out and did not return.

LOL :22yikes:

[JGibson]

Fear-mongering so they will hire more guards. Oldest trick in the book.

[charlie1]

It's been that way for years they're trying to get what they want by using scare tactics.

Not sure if it was that way for years BUT I also wonder what their agenda is for going to Wildwood to raise the flag. The prison has a little over 10% of their positions open and are trying to fill them. What can Wildwood do! They are just using scare tactics to get something in return from the prison. Unfortunately, there are people that will panic and will "spread the scare".

When you were younger, when the company was short staffed we all pitch together to still get the job done until they could hire help. We maybe did not like it but we did not try to start a panic!

[Bilyclub]

LOL :22yikes:

Mob hitman from upstate New York escapes from federal custody in Florida (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mob-hitman-upstate-new-york-escapes-federal-custody-florida-rcna22592)

[Caymus]

Mob hitman from upstate New York escapes from federal custody in Florida (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mob-hitman-upstate-new-york-escapes-federal-custody-florida-rcna22592)

No interesting nickname for this mobster?:):)

[Kenswing]

If they’re short staffed by 10% just keep the convicts locked up 10% longer each day.

[Stu from NYC]

If they’re short staffed by 10% just keep the convicts locked up 10% longer each day.

But you might hurt their feelings.

[ThirdOfFive]

Not sure if it was that way for years BUT I also wonder what their agenda is for going to Wildwood to raise the flag. The prison has a little over 10% of their positions open and are trying to fill them. What can Wildwood do! They are just using scare tactics to get something in return from the prison. Unfortunately, there are people that will panic and will "spread the scare".

When you were younger, when the company was short staffed we all pitch together to still get the job done until they could hire help. We maybe did not like it but we did not try to start a panic!
If those guards are union, I guarantee that this will NOT be happening. Doing so short-circuits the need for more workers and as unions live on dues and large memberships. Workers going above and beyond to help one another because of warm body shortages just isn't tolerated.

[Stu from NYC]

If those guards are union, I guarantee that this will NOT be happening. Doing so short-circuits the need for more workers and as unions live on dues and large memberships. Workers going above and beyond to help one another because of warm body shortages just isn't tolerated.

Unions did a good job improving work conditions but now it is getting the money from dues.

Worked in a union shop and was amazing how often work came to a standstill while you waited for a "specialist" when any other worker could have moved the material a few feet.

[Gpsma]

And fearful Villagers and Union fellow travelers will agree we are in danger

[kkingston57]

Unions did a good job improving work conditions but now it is getting the money from dues.

Worked in a union shop and was amazing how often work came to a standstill while you waited for a "specialist" when any other worker could have moved the material a few feet.

Agree on the specialist, but what kind of different trades/specialists are at a prison? Better ? is how much they are paid by the state of Florida. Florida has always been one of the lowest paying states in the US. Not going to get better. Recent influx of out of staters has made, FL a harder place to live for the working populace.

[Gpsma]

Agree on the specialist, but what kind of different trades/specialists are at a prison? Better ? is how much they are paid by the state of Florida. Florida has always been one of the lowest paying states in the US. Not going to get better. Recent influx of out of staters has made, FL a harder place to live for the working populace.

But isnt coleman a federal prison….i would think they are paid under the fed compensation system…i bet a lot better then state prison employees

[Stu from NYC]

Agree on the specialist, but what kind of different trades/specialists are at a prison? Better ? is how much they are paid by the state of Florida. Florida has always been one of the lowest paying states in the US. Not going to get better. Recent influx of out of staters has made, FL a harder place to live for the working populace.

Federal position and suspect the staff is very well paid

[MrChip72]

Federal position and suspect the staff is very well paid

Have met a couple of retired prison guards in the past few years. They all seem to have done well for themselves financially and retired in their early 50's.

[ithos]

The only significant risk is from the Camp section since they are allowed to roam freely at times according to the description. https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/com/COM_camp_aohandbook.pdf These are usually people either near their release date or convicted of non violent crimes. The difference now is that there is much more development instead of pastures and farms surrounding the site.

The biggest risk is to the staff who will have less backup when inmates commit violent acts.

[GizmoWhiskers]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,

Statement by credible Employee:

“While this number may sound sufficient, FCC Coleman is short staffed by 100 officers. This translates to 554 officers split between five institutions and five shifts, attempting to supervise 6,219 individuals convicted of committing crimes such as murder, drug trafficking, and sexual violations of our most vulnerable population, children,” Perry said.

The leadership of FCC Coleman reported staffing numbers at 91 percent.

“However, the complex suffers with daily vacant posts of approximately 175 positions equating to a staffing percentage in the 70’s,” Perry added.


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Well, if The Villages / UF nixes the medical research and educational center buyers are being sold on, they can switch the focus of Middleton from under 55 Dr's and Nurses to Correctional Officers to work at Coleman. Win win.

[MandoMan]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,

Statement by credible Employee:

“While this number may sound sufficient, FCC Coleman is short staffed by 100 officers. This translates to 554 officers split between five institutions and five shifts, attempting to supervise 6,219 individuals convicted of committing crimes such as murder, drug trafficking, and sexual violations of our most vulnerable population, children,” Perry said.

The leadership of FCC Coleman reported staffing numbers at 91 percent.

“However, the complex suffers with daily vacant posts of approximately 175 positions equating to a staffing percentage in the 70’s,” Perry added.


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Perhaps Coleman could hire some of those thousands of unqualified people hired last year to be school teachers. The working conditions are similar to those in many Florida schools, and the pay might be better.

[NoMo50]

The latest rumor is that the convicts at FCC Coleman have, themselves, unionized. They have secretly planned a mass escape once the guard staffing level drops below 70%. Maps have been distributed amongst the convicts detailing the location of snowbird property in The Villages, which the convicts will use as shelter until they can disappear into the populace. This could well be in your village.

[NoMo50]

No big deal, as long as there’s only one escape a year…..

Last escape, April 2022 (LAST YEAR) - a mob hit man.

That inmate had been placed in a halfway house, and walked away. Hardly a prison escape, although it is technically classified that way.

[Morty S]

I heard there closing the prison and turning it into a Costco.

[jimkerr]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,

Statement by credible Employee:

“While this number may sound sufficient, FCC Coleman is short staffed by 100 officers. This translates to 554 officers split between five institutions and five shifts, attempting to supervise 6,219 individuals convicted of committing crimes such as murder, drug trafficking, and sexual violations of our most vulnerable population, children,” Perry said.

The leadership of FCC Coleman reported staffing numbers at 91 percent.

“However, the complex suffers with daily vacant posts of approximately 175 positions equating to a staffing percentage in the 70’s,” Perry added.


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What makes this employee “credible”?

[Captainpd]

Credible employee? Union leadership. Who usually have an agenda.
WTF does unions have to do with this.

[JGibson]

It's weird that America has more inmates than any other country in the world, by a large margin at that.

[Babubhat]

Not a concern here. Not going to worry about theoretical problems.

[Caymus]

It's weird that America has more inmates than any other country in the world, by a large margin at that.

Are you counting the Chinese Internment Camps?

[Vermilion Villager]

Might be able to hire staff if they weren't union.

:thumbup:
:1rotfl::1rotfl: I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that!!!!

[BlueStarAirlines]

This issue is a concern we all need to monitor,


If you are concerned about this, you'd better not consider the shortages of air traffic controllers in the FAA or a myriad of other critical federal jobs.

[vintageogauge]

If you are concerned about this, you'd better not consider the shortages of air traffic controllers in the FAA or a myriad of other critical federal jobs.

The last I read there were 10 millions unfilled jobs in this country ranging from minimum wage positions to doctors, and high pay executives yet we continue to pay unemployment benefits. Too many people don't want to work and that's a problem from coast to coast. That prison will never be at 100%.

[Wilson02852]

Besides, those still working extra shifts are making a ton of money. Most government employees love the overtime and only complain about their taxes.

[Bilyclub]

Overtime is great, but usually they will deny time off because of staffing shortages.