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Two Bills
06-03-2023, 11:30 AM
Could get volatile!
Utah primary schools ban Bible for '''vulgarity and violence''' - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65794363)
Bay Kid
06-04-2023, 06:35 AM
Remove the Bible from schools and celebrate pride month. Our country is being destroyed. We are upside down.
Byte1
06-04-2023, 06:51 AM
Bizorro world, nuff said.
Chi-Town
06-04-2023, 09:04 AM
Well, the OT has some PG-13 to R stuff in it. Funny though that Utah just noticed it.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-04-2023, 09:29 AM
Remove the Bible from schools and celebrate pride month. Our country is being destroyed. We are upside down.
Who made up the rule in Utah forbidding vulgar and violence in books in the school district? You should be asking them what they were thinking, when they came up with that rule.
The Bible - both old and new testaments, are veritable cesspits of violence, vulgarity, rape, incest, bestiality, depraved acts of all sorts, stoning people to death, pestilence, acts of greed, political conspiracies, the promotion and celebration of slavery, and a fresh batch of "smoting" at least twice per chapter per book.
If that's not vulgarity and violence, I don't know what is. If you want vulgar/violent books banned, the Bible is the FIRST one you should put on the list. If you don't want the bible banned, then maybe - don't have that rule?
Battlebasset
06-04-2023, 10:45 AM
Could get volatile!
Utah primary schools ban Bible for '''vulgarity and violence''' - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65794363)
Not really. Sunday Schools in most churches don't teach younger children directly from the Bible. It would be over their heads and yes, it does have some pretty graphic stuff. They use children's Bibles and age appropriate religious books. Age appropriate being the operative words.
As should schools for all topics, especially sexuality.
Taltarzac725
06-04-2023, 12:49 PM
The Book of Mormon'''s physical and sexual violence is '''not particularly graphic''' (https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/06/03/just-how-graphic-is-physical/)
I looked up The Book of Mormon to see how they have handled that in Utah.
Byte1
06-04-2023, 02:58 PM
With all the trash and vulgar language on prime time TV folks want to censure Bible teaching? Good grief! America is becoming the cesspit of the world. I wonder what GOD's patience limit is before he finally decides it's time to wipe Earth's slate clean and start over.
It always amazes me how STUPID supposedly well learned and supposed intelligent people can get in their arrogance.
There is still time for some, but I doubt they are smart enough yet.....or desperate enough. For some, there is not enough time to get it right.
Robnlaura
06-05-2023, 04:46 AM
Remove the Bible from schools and celebrate pride month. Our country is being destroyed. We are upside down.
I think we all tired enough of “pride month”
Skunky1
06-05-2023, 04:54 AM
There you go show the kids the redacted version
Villages Kahuna
06-05-2023, 06:21 AM
I’ll bet they haven’t banned The Book of Mormon in Utah.
jljl62040
06-05-2023, 06:40 AM
What about the Quran?
Keefelane66
06-05-2023, 06:42 AM
With all the trash and vulgar language on prime time TV folks want to censure Bible teaching? Good grief! America is becoming the cesspit of the world. I wonder what GOD's patience limit is before he finally decides it's time to wipe Earth's slate clean and start over.
It always amazes me how STUPID supposedly well learned and supposed intelligent people can get in their arrogance.
There is still time for some, but I doubt they are smart enough yet.....or desperate enough. For some, there is not enough time to get it right.
Yes I agree as we get older we all fall for religion.
“ Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
Bay Kid
06-05-2023, 06:45 AM
Who made up the rule in Utah forbidding vulgar and violence in books in the school district? You should be asking them what they were thinking, when they came up with that rule.
The Bible - both old and new testaments, are veritable cesspits of violence, vulgarity, rape, incest, bestiality, depraved acts of all sorts, stoning people to death, pestilence, acts of greed, political conspiracies, the promotion and celebration of slavery, and a fresh batch of "smoting" at least twice per chapter per book.
If that's not vulgarity and violence, I don't know what is. If you want vulgar/violent books banned, the Bible is the FIRST one you should put on the list. If you don't want the bible banned, then maybe - don't have that rule?
Well we all know where you stand.
Vermilion Villager
06-05-2023, 07:15 AM
Who made up the rule in Utah forbidding vulgar and violence in books in the school district? You should be asking them what they were thinking, when they came up with that rule.
The Bible - both old and new testaments, are veritable cesspits of violence, vulgarity, rape, incest, bestiality, depraved acts of all sorts, stoning people to death, pestilence, acts of greed, political conspiracies, the promotion and celebration of slavery, and a fresh batch of "smoting" at least twice per chapter per book.
If that's not vulgarity and violence, I don't know what is. If you want vulgar/violent books banned, the Bible is the FIRST one you should put on the list. If you don't want the bible banned, then maybe - don't have that rule?
WORD!!!!!:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:
MandoMan
06-05-2023, 07:24 AM
Not really. Sunday Schools in most churches don't teach younger children directly from the Bible. It would be over their heads and yes, it does have some pretty graphic stuff. They use children's Bibles and age appropriate religious books. Age appropriate being the operative words.
As should schools for all topics, especially sexuality.
When I was a child we learned ONLY stories from the Bible, prepared for use by denominational headquarters, and we didn’t use children’s bibles—just King James. They left out explanations of some things and left out some of the wildest stories, like the Levite whose concubine was raped to death, so he cut up her body and sent a piece to each tribe, but there were plenty of battles, and David sawing off Goliath’s head, and all that. It concentrated on stories. And we had to memorize a relevant verse every week. We also had a ten volume set of Bible Stories at home, and my mom read us at least one story every night. Sounds like “most churches” are teaching watered down versions of the Bible and straying from the teachings. Plenty of things to blame it on, but sounds like there is a lot of self-censoring going on. I went on to teach biblical literature for ten years at a state university, and this background from church and from my mom was a solid foundation. Most of my students were eager young Christians, but most were also biblically illiterate when they started the class, and they were startled to find how little they knew.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-05-2023, 07:43 AM
I think we all tired enough of “pride month”
Yeah everywhere I go, I am bombarded with talk about pride month. To the surprise of no one at all, the talk is coming FROM homophobes who are against it, but continue to obsess about it and remind everyone how it exists and how much they are suffering as a result of some guy they don't know wearing a gown and heels in a parade in another state.
Anyone who really wants to demonstrate how tired they are of it - maybe stop talking about it so much.
Wondering
06-05-2023, 07:47 AM
Could get volatile!
Utah primary schools ban Bible for '''vulgarity and violence''' - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65794363)
Was it a private school or a public school? Shouldn't be in any public school. If it was a private school, good for banning it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Karma!
PersonOfInterest
06-05-2023, 07:49 AM
Good thinking. Ban a book that only a few, if any, would ever pick up and read. Protect the children from the vulgarity and obscenity of the world we live in so when they finally walk out the front door into the real world they will not be prepared to handle what they find.
Does it make any sense to ban a 'book' when there is internet access and digital content?
Robnlaura
06-05-2023, 08:13 AM
Yeah everywhere I go, I am bombarded with talk about pride month. To the surprise of no one at all, the talk is coming FROM homophobes who are against it, but continue to obsess about it and remind everyone how it exists and how much they are suffering as a result of some guy they don't know wearing a gown and heels in a parade in another state.
Anyone who really wants to demonstrate how tired they are of it - maybe stop talking about it so much.
Every one is tired of getting bombarded by gay pride events flags demonstrations transsexuals demanding the right to compete as women in sports ect ect and the funny thing is no one cares in florida what you want in your mouth.. except for the gay groups crying about hate in florida ???
Byte1
06-05-2023, 08:13 AM
Yeah everywhere I go, I am bombarded with talk about pride month. To the surprise of no one at all, the talk is coming FROM homophobes who are against it, but continue to obsess about it and remind everyone how it exists and how much they are suffering as a result of some guy they don't know wearing a gown and heels in a parade in another state.
Anyone who really wants to demonstrate how tired they are of it - maybe stop talking about it so much.
So, you are saying that anyone that does NOT condone the abnormal lifestyle that is perverted and that does not think that there should be a month dedicated to such perversion, is a "homophobe?" Do you even know the definition? What part about it not being normal don't you understand? I know of no one that does not tolerate the private deviant lifestyle of that alphabet group, even though they do not condone it. Those of us that complain about a month dedicated officially to celebrate such abnormal behavior, do so because the majority of this country does not endorse it. The idea of a month or any time dedicated to celebrating it is against most religious faiths and against what most parents teach their children. We do not wish for our children to be exposed to this abnormal lifestyle while the gov and WOKE society endorses it. To label someone a homophobe, which is the same as calling someone a bigot, might be turned around and label you as anti-semitic. Of course, I would not but I could understand why some would feel that way.
It's interesting how certain groups insist on labeling folks racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc, just because we do not agree with or have the same view as them. It is not simply having an opposing opinion, but an affront to some if you do not agree with them and as a defensive posture, labeling is utilized.
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 08:26 AM
I think we all tired enough of “pride month”
We? Who is we? You speak for everyone in the world?
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 08:31 AM
Every one is tired of getting bombarded by gay pride events flags demonstrations transsexuals demanding the right to compete as women in sports ect ect and the funny thing is no one cares in florida what you want in your mouth.. except for the gay groups crying about hate in florida ???
There is so much irony in this post. YOU are the one hating....... stop hating, they will stop talking about being hated.
Byte1
06-05-2023, 08:32 AM
We? Who is we? You speak for everyone in the world?
"We" is plural, as in more than one. Did someone mention "everyone in the world?" Just wondering, because I did not take that comment as being "everyone." That poster might be correct in saying the MAJORITY feel that way. Just a thought.
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 08:33 AM
So, you are saying that anyone that does NOT condone the abnormal lifestyle that is perverted and that does not think that there should be a month dedicated to such perversion, is a "homophobe?" Do you even know the definition? What part about it not being normal don't you understand? I know of no one that does not tolerate the private deviant lifestyle of that alphabet group, even though they do not condone it. Those of us that complain about a month dedicated officially to celebrate such abnormal behavior, do so because the majority of this country does not endorse it. The idea of a month or any time dedicated to celebrating it is against most religious faiths and against what most parents teach their children. We do not wish for our children to be exposed to this abnormal lifestyle while the gov and WOKE society endorses it. To label someone a homophobe, which is the same as calling someone a bigot, might be turned around and label you as anti-semitic. Of course, I would not but I could understand why some would feel that way.
It's interesting how certain groups insist on labeling folks racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, etc, just because we do not agree with or have the same view as them. It is not simply having an opposing opinion, but an affront to some if you do not agree with them and as a defensive posture, labeling is utilized.
Can you disagree with something and keep it to yourself? You write a long hateful post about the "alphabet people", then get offended because its pointed out that you are a homophobe?
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 08:40 AM
"We" is plural, as in more than one. Did someone mention "everyone in the world?" Just wondering, because I did not take that comment as being "everyone." That poster might be correct in saying the MAJORITY feel that way. Just a thought.
I think the majority is sick and tired of all the hate for people who can no more help being gay than they can help being born with red hair or blue eyes. I wish that stupid Bible had never been written by evil people who wanted to control future gullible generations. It's really sad that you hate people, and I bet you call yourself a Christian. The funny thing is, if the man you call Christ was alive, he would tell you to stop hating people. "Love they neighbor" Mind your own business.
Byte1
06-05-2023, 08:46 AM
There is so much irony in this post. YOU are the one hating....... stop hating, they will stop talking about being hated.
Actually, IMO they accuse folks of "hating" because they can not get folks to consider their lifestyle as normal, or at the very least endorse their lifestyle. Many folks like that have a tendency to accuse in order to put folks on the defensive. Personally, having some very close friends and family members that are gay, I tolerate their lifestyle UNTIL they or anyone else attempts to indoctrinate.
But, this has very little to do with the subject of banning the Bible in Utah public schools and I apologize.
Byte1
06-05-2023, 08:49 AM
I think the majority is sick and tired of all the hate for people who can no more help being gay than they can help being born with red hair or blue eyes. I wish that stupid Bible had never been written by evil people who wanted to control future gullible generations. It's really sad that you hate people, and I bet you call yourself a Christian. The funny thing is, if the man you call Christ was alive, he would tell you to stop hating people. "Love they neighbor" Mind your own business.
Accusing me of "hating?" You belittle and demean one's faith and make false assumptions, and then attempt to be defensive? Sorry, but that dog don't hunt.
Byte1
06-05-2023, 08:56 AM
I think the majority is sick and tired of all the hate for people who can no more help being gay than they can help being born with red hair or blue eyes. I wish that stupid Bible had never been written by evil people who wanted to control future gullible generations. It's really sad that you hate people, and I bet you call yourself a Christian. The funny thing is, if the man you call Christ was alive, he would tell you to stop hating people. "Love they neighbor" Mind your own business.
BTW, HE is alive. Over 500 people witnessed HIS resurrection.
TomSpasm
06-05-2023, 09:06 AM
Yes I agree as we get older we all fall for religion.
“ Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
You should have given George Carlin credit for the quote.
Geodyssey
06-05-2023, 09:12 AM
Who made up the rule in Utah forbidding vulgar and violence in books in the school district? You should be asking them what they were thinking, when they came up with that rule.
The Bible - both old and new testaments, are veritable cesspits of violence, vulgarity, rape, incest, bestiality, depraved acts of all sorts, stoning people to death, pestilence, acts of greed, political conspiracies, the promotion and celebration of slavery, and a fresh batch of "smoting" at least twice per chapter per book.
If that's not vulgarity and violence, I don't know what is. If you want vulgar/violent books banned, the Bible is the FIRST one you should put on the list. If you don't want the bible banned, then maybe - don't have that rule?
What about your Talmud?
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 09:19 AM
BTW, HE is alive. Over 500 people witnessed HIS resurrection.
LOL, Oh boy.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-05-2023, 09:24 AM
What about your Talmud?
What about it? Have you read it? And what does that have to do with the current situation - that a law bans books for vulgarity and violence in the public school system, and one woman pointed out that a specific text "sacred" to an entire major religion in this country contains that violence and vulgarity, and therefore had to be removed.
If someone feels the Talmud fits the same category, then it should also be removed. OR - as I suggested - the law retconned and let students read these things FREEly - because y'know - land of the Free and all that.
Pballer
06-05-2023, 09:26 AM
Was Jesus woke? After all, he cared about the poor. Maybe the Bible should be banned for that reason.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-05-2023, 09:35 AM
Was Jesus woke? After all, he cared about the poor. Maybe the Bible should be banned for that reason.
It should be banned from the entire state of Florida - you know, where Woke goes to Die.
Jesus cared not just -about- the poor, but he cared FOR the poor. He fed them. He told his disciples to love the foreigner. He had a love affair with a prostitute. His mother was -not- impregnated by her husband, and he was okay with that. He was also a proponent of the separation of Church and State (the whole "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" bit in the synoptic gospels).
So basically - he was a democratic socialist. Definitely woke, no doubt about it.
Looks like Jesus will cease to be risen right here in the Free State of Florida - where Woke goes to Die.
Jerry101
06-05-2023, 09:47 AM
Who made up the rule in Utah forbidding vulgar and violence in books in the school district? You should be asking them what they were thinking, when they came up with that rule.
The Bible - both old and new testaments, are veritable cesspits of violence, vulgarity, rape, incest, bestiality, depraved acts of all sorts, stoning people to death, pestilence, acts of greed, political conspiracies, the promotion and celebration of slavery, and a fresh batch of "smoting" at least twice per chapter per book.
If that's not vulgarity and violence, I don't know what is. If you want vulgar/violent books banned, the Bible is the FIRST one you should put on the list. If you don't want the bible banned, then maybe - don't have that rule?
… in prayer ‘try some of this on’!
🙏
John 3:16
John 14:6
John 16:33
Philippians 4:6-8
Philippians 2:9-11
Because of that obedience, God lifted him high and honored him far beyond anyone or anything, ever, so that all created beings in heaven and on earth—even those long ago dead and buried—will bow in worship before this Jesus Christ, and call out in praise that he is the Master of all, to the glorious honor of God the Father.
Isaiah 41:10
Joshua 1:9
2 Corinthians 5:17
… there are MANY other ‘reminders’ of God’s LOVE & CHRIST’s sacrifice for all of us!
… I know some of you get uncomfortable regarding the Bible … obviously I don’t. I don’t have that many days left on this earth. Sharing some of these verses makes this day a lot better!
Byte1
06-05-2023, 09:49 AM
It should be banned from the entire state of Florida - you know, where Woke goes to Die.
Jesus cared not just -about- the poor, but he cared FOR the poor. He fed them. He told his disciples to love the foreigner. He had a love affair with a prostitute. His mother was -not- impregnated by her husband, and he was okay with that. He was also a proponent of the separation of Church and State (the whole "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" bit in the synoptic gospels).
So basically - he was a democratic socialist. Definitely woke, no doubt about it.
Looks like Jesus will cease to be risen right here in the Free State of Florida - where Woke goes to Die.
Interesting assumptions, but you really shouldn't misinterpret the Bible by stating that Jesus had an affair with a prostitute. Until your comment, I had actually believed that you might have studied Christianity. I will suggest that those that make fun of GOD, distort/pervert HIS word, do so at their own peril. I find it ironic that you accuse others of "hating."
Byte1
06-05-2023, 09:55 AM
Was Jesus woke? After all, he cared about the poor. Maybe the Bible should be banned for that reason.
Hmmm, are you sure that you understand the term "WOKE?" Hint: it is NOT synonymous with charity. I don't think that Jesus was thinking of African Americans and their perception of injustice. Just a guess.
Robnlaura
06-05-2023, 09:56 AM
There is so much irony in this post. YOU are the one hating....... stop hating, they will stop talking about being hated.
I actually don’t hate who you date.. the gay transgender group is the one hating on everyone at the moment
Geodyssey
06-05-2023, 09:59 AM
What about it? Have you read it? And what does that have to do with the current situation - that a law bans books for vulgarity and violence in the public school system, and one woman pointed out that a specific text "sacred" to an entire major religion in this country contains that violence and vulgarity, and therefore had to be removed.
If someone feels the Talmud fits the same category, then it should also be removed. OR - as I suggested - the law retconned and let students read these things FREEly - because y'know - land of the Free and all that.
"What about it?" = You're ok with the jewish talmud.
I asked how YOU felt about the talmud, not other people.
You avoided the question = support.
Byte1
06-05-2023, 10:04 AM
My friend is celebrating this month :a20:
JMintzer
06-05-2023, 10:38 AM
What about your Talmud?
She doesn't believe in that, either... She's said so...
Geodyssey
06-05-2023, 10:56 AM
She doesn't believe in that, either... She's said so...
That's not true. You're lying and we know why, Mintzer.
Anyone can go back and read her answer.
Pballer
06-05-2023, 11:03 AM
Hmmm, are you sure that you understand the term "WOKE?" Hint: it is NOT synonymous with charity. I don't think that Jesus was thinking of African Americans and their perception of injustice. Just a guess.
Please enlighten us with your definition of woke and why it must die.
JMintzer
06-05-2023, 11:07 AM
That's not true. You're lying and we know why, Mintzer.
Anyone can go back and read her answer.
She has stated that she doesn't believe in the teachings and that she is only "culturally" Jewish... Her words, not mine...
Oh, and please tell me "why" I'm lying... And who is "we"?
Geodyssey
06-05-2023, 11:38 AM
She has stated that she doesn't believe in the teachings and that she is only "culturally" Jewish... Her words, not mine...
Oh, and please tell me "why" I'm lying... And who is "we"?
You're still lying. People should go back and read what she wrote. She does not say there's anything wrong with your talmud.
And neither have you, of course.
It seems like you and her don't even know what truth and lying are.
Who is the deceiver?
Robnlaura
06-05-2023, 11:56 AM
I doubt he was around African Americans
Byte1
06-05-2023, 12:08 PM
Please enlighten us with your definition of woke and why it must die.
Did I say ANYWHERE on here that WOKE must die? I believe you are mistaken.
I have no definition of my own. I have used the term WOKE as it is defined on any search engine. Apparently, by their definition there are a lot of folks misusing the term. That's what happens frequently with new, made up terms. Perhaps, instead of misusing the term, folks should just say what they mean without trying to be upbeat?
stone8735
06-05-2023, 01:46 PM
Remove the Bible from schools and celebrate pride month. Our country is being destroyed. We are upside down.
They are the ones pushing laws that made that possible. You reap what you sow
Lindsyburnsy
06-05-2023, 02:29 PM
Well, the OT has some PG-13 to R stuff in it. Funny though that Utah just noticed it.
LOL, must not be reading much of what they preach! So, what are students going to use as their reading material during religion class in parochial schools? Such a dilemma. Teaching kids that homosexuals are going to hell, is pure hatred. WWJD?
rogerrice60
06-05-2023, 02:55 PM
Could get volatile!
Utah primary schools ban Bible for '''vulgarity and violence''' - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65794363)
Our country removed God from our schools in 1960's, I think we can all see the results from that UNGODLY decision
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 03:14 PM
I doubt he was around African Americans
You know there are no white people in the Bible right?
airstreamingypsy
06-05-2023, 03:15 PM
Our country removed God from our schools in 1960's, I think we can all see the results from that UNGODLY decision
God doesn't belong in public school, if you must god belongs in Sunday school and religious schools. Blame it on the founding fathers.
JMintzer
06-05-2023, 03:50 PM
You're still lying. People should go back and read what she wrote. She does not say there's anything wrong with your talmud.
And neither have you, of course.
It seems like you and her don't even know what truth and lying are.
Who is the deceiver?
You, apparently...
I NEVER said she said that there was anything wrong with the Talmud.
I DID say she doesn't believe in it... Which she has said.
She made the statement that she is not a "Religious Jew" (ie, one who subscribes to the Torah/Talmud), but is a "Cultural Jew"... Her words, not mine...
And you still haven't answered why you know I'm "lying"... Please expound on that accusation...
JMintzer
06-05-2023, 03:51 PM
God doesn't belong in public school, if you must god belongs in Sunday school and religious schools. Blame it on the founding fathers.
Oh, dear... I actually agree with you!!!
Taltarzac725
06-05-2023, 05:58 PM
You know there are no white people in the Bible right?
Maybe some of the Romans. They could also have been of Germanic origin as the Romans had various Germanic bodyguards.
I'm Popeye!
06-05-2023, 07:19 PM
Well we all know where you stand.
. . . . . Yep, Just one step from Hell......
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-05-2023, 09:02 PM
"What about it?" = You're ok with the jewish talmud.
I asked how YOU felt about the talmud, not other people.
You avoided the question = support.
Me? I don't care about the Talmud. I mean, I've read it, but I have no personal emotional attachment to it. I have a cultural attachment to it since I'm Jewish, but I'm a non-practicing Jew and really don't give a flying fig. I think the New Testament, the Torah, the Book of Shadows, the Quran, the Bhaghavad-gita, the Book of Mormon, and all other holy books of various religions should be in public and school libraries so that students and others can read them and learn ABOUT these religions.
But the school district in Utah created a law forbidding books in the schools containing vulgarity and violence, and the Bible (old and new testaments both) is chock full of both.
Lindsyburnsy
06-06-2023, 10:10 AM
Yes I agree as we get older we all fall for religion.
“ Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
Amen to that! It will be Christians burning in hell, because no others believe that stuff and it would be a great thing if someone would stop them from trying to push their beliefs on everybody else.
Byte1
06-06-2023, 10:24 AM
Amen to that! It will be Christians burning in hell, because no others believe that stuff and it would be a great thing if someone would stop them from trying to push their beliefs on everybody else.
If you are right and Christians are wrong, then they have lost nothing. But, if they are right and you are wrong, then you had better enjoy what life you have left.
Robnlaura
06-06-2023, 02:37 PM
You know there are no white people in the Bible right?
Well they certainly weren’t African Americans that’s a fact
I'm Popeye!
06-06-2023, 02:51 PM
You know there are no white people in the Bible right?
You know so much about the Bible; answer me this:
The book of Numbers 12:1-10: This passage tells the story of Miriam and Aaron speaking against their brother Moses because he had married a Cu****e woman. Cu****ies were typically associated with dark skin color.
The question then is, what skin color were Moses and his brothers?
Bill14564
06-06-2023, 03:01 PM
You know so much about the Bible; answer me this:
The book of Numbers 12:1-10: This passage tells the story of Miriam and Aaron speaking against their brother Moses because he had married a Cu****e woman. Cu****ies were typically associated with dark skin color.
The question then is, what skin color were Moses and his brothers?
There is light-skin / dark-skin racism in the Middle East and Africa today. There is a good book about this and I'll add the title as soon as I can remember it.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-06-2023, 08:31 PM
You know so much about the Bible; answer me this:
The book of Numbers 12:1-10: This passage tells the story of Miriam and Aaron speaking against their brother Moses because he had married a Cu****e woman. Cu****ies were typically associated with dark skin color.
The question then is, what skin color were Moses and his brothers?
They were brown. Just like all Egyptians. You do know that there are multiple shades of brown? Or do you truly believe that if they're not dark brown, they must be white?
Hamites (another name for the background of Zipporah, Moses' wife) were also brown. They were not nearly as dark brown as people from Ethiopia at the time, but darker than most Egyptians. The word you referred to that the vulgarity filter asterisked out, comes from the word Cush, which was the son of Noah. People who are "of Cush" were Cush.. ites. They descended from the son of Noah, who was from an area within the country now known as Iraq. They were ALSO brown.
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-06-2023, 08:32 PM
There is light-skin / dark-skin racism in the Middle East and Africa today. There is a good book about this and I'll add the title as soon as I can remember it.
And yet - they are still shades of brown. None of them are, or were, Caucasian. Nor was Jesus, as he was an Israelite, and brown.
dhdallas
06-06-2023, 10:21 PM
The Bible is probably one of the most violent books ever written. Human sacrifices, men thrown into furnaces, swallowed by whales, nailed to crosses, killing babies, destroying cities...it goes on and on. It's also a work of fiction!
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-07-2023, 08:54 AM
The Bible is probably one of the most violent books ever written. Human sacrifices, men thrown into furnaces, swallowed by whales, nailed to crosses, killing babies, destroying cities...it goes on and on. It's also a work of fiction!
And... IF there is to be any legislation requiring that books containing "violence" and "vulgarity" be removed from school libraries and curricula, then the bible should be #1 on that list. Old and new testament, the whole series.
IF they're not willing to remove the Bible, then they need to get rid of that legislation.
Byte1
06-07-2023, 12:47 PM
The Bible is probably one of the most violent books ever written. Human sacrifices, men thrown into furnaces, swallowed by whales, nailed to crosses, killing babies, destroying cities...it goes on and on. It's also a work of fiction!
Prove it. A lot of scholars and scientists have tried, but none have succeeded to prove it fiction. It is historically and mathematically correct. You have a choice to believe it or not believe it, but not believing it does not make it fiction. OK, let me back track. There are a few parables that are included and are fiction.
Byte1
06-07-2023, 12:51 PM
And... IF there is to be any legislation requiring that books containing "violence" and "vulgarity" be removed from school libraries and curricula, then the bible should be #1 on that list. Old and new testament, the whole series.
IF they're not willing to remove the Bible, then they need to get rid of that legislation.
Sure, and get rid of ALL history text books, because the document world wars and lots of killing. Wow, and don't forget the dropping of atom bombs on Japan and carpet bombing too. Let's censure anything that shows violent history because Americans are soooo sensitive. chiloutchilout
Stu from NYC
06-07-2023, 01:38 PM
I think we all tired enough of “pride month”
for sure
Stu from NYC
06-07-2023, 01:40 PM
The Bible is probably one of the most violent books ever written. Human sacrifices, men thrown into furnaces, swallowed by whales, nailed to crosses, killing babies, destroying cities...it goes on and on. It's also a work of fiction!
Some of us actually believe in our chosen religion.
I'm Popeye!
06-07-2023, 07:32 PM
I think we all tired enough of “pride month”
" Month," this pride cr_p has been going on for two years.
Have you noticed everything is now rainbows with no pot of gold at the end? Just sickening!
Byte1
06-08-2023, 10:45 AM
" Month," this pride cr_p has been going on for two years.
Have you noticed everything is now rainbows with no pot of gold at the end? Just sickening!
I agree. I thought the whole rainbow thing was related to Lucky Charms, when in reality it was more like Fruit Loops.
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