My dog has a bullet in him

[KathieI]

Brought Sam to the vet today because I thought he was having some arthritis problem (although he's a little too young for that yet) so we took a full body xray and lo and behold, Dr. Valdez found a pellet bullet in his upper torso. I know it didn't happen in LA because the way the house was situated, we had 7' walls all around the house.

My dogs, both in LA and here in TV, do not go out of the house or my backyard. Here in TV they only go on my lanai and they are very happy to live like this. This could only have happened here in TV. They also do not go to the Doggie Runs as they aren't very socialized and I also hate fleas and they get them there.

So this post is just to caution any of you with dogs, there is a hater here in TV and we must watch out for him/her. It could have been a contractor so I'm not saying its a neighbor, God forbid, but I feel totally violated right now and very very angry this this had to happen to my little pooch. Tomorrow I will report it to the police to see if they have any interest in this.

Careful out there, you never know!!!!
BTW, Sam is good and the bullet doesn't need to come out..Thank God.....

[HawkeyeBarb]

KathieI...I am SO SO SORRY this has happened to you and Sam!! VERY SHOCKING indeed and I can imagine how awful you must be feeling. Know that I am thinking of you all and I certainly hope this is resolved!
Fondly....HawkeyeB.

[bkcunningham1]

Oh no Kathie. I really hate that. I can't imagine shooting at a poor dog for no reason. I wish I could say something to make you feel better. I am just thankful it didn't do any major damage to your poor doggie.
Happy thoughts!

[pooh]

Kathie, have you checked the screening on your lanai? Did you find a hole?

I'm so sorry your pooch has been injured. Did the vet give any indication how long the pellet might have been in your dog?

(When we lived in So CA, a 6 foot fence didn't deter any who wanted to hurt pets. Cats and dogs were injured or worse.)

Hope puppy has a speedy recovery. Again, I'm so sorry this has happened.

[RichieLion]

Could it have been in the dog even before you got him? This is a little mysterious. I hope Sam's recovering well and I also hope it didn't, in fact happen, in The Villages. That would just be too weird.

[KathieI]

Kathie, have you checked the screening on your lanai? Did you find a hole?

Yes, there is a hole in the screen. I saw it about 2 months ago and couldn't imagine where a round hole about 1/2" in diam came from. Now I think I know..

I'm so sorry your pooch has been injured. Did the vet give any indication how long the pellet might have been in your dog?
No, the vet can't tell me how long its been there, but given the hole in the screen, I'd think about 2 months. Also I thought I would have seen blood, but apparently not depending on where it entered and its right below the skin.....

(When we lived in So CA, a 6 foot fence didn't deter any who wanted to hurt pets. Cats and dogs were injured or worse.)

Very true, but the way the property was situated, I would have seen anyone targeting the dogs, plus it was a small piece of property and all the neighbors had lots of dogs. So I doubt it.

Hope puppy has a speedy recovery. Again, I'm so sorry this has happened.

Thank you all, he is feeling okay, I think its more my mental state than anything. Just so upsetting to think this piece of LEAD is inside my dog!!!

[islandgal]

Oh, Kathie, I am so upset for you. Very upsetting and scary.
Have you reported it to the Sheriff?

[mgm4444]

What an absolute tragedy. I am so very sorry for you Kathi. An awful thing to have to go thru. I'm glad you still have your dog. My prayers are with you.

[TednRobin]

I am so sorry to hear this. Keep us updated on any new news or if the sheriff comes up w any leads.

[graciegirl]

Kathie. I am so sorry. I know you must be so upset.

You are on a water something....How far do pellet guns shoot?

I can't imagine who did this or how it happened.

[duffysmom]

It's frightening to think that there is someone lurking around our homes who is willing to shoot a defenseless animal. I'm outraged!!! If your dogs bark perhaps a disgruntled neighbor is to blame. Whoever did such a thing is sick. I'm sorry that your peace of mind has been violated.

[another Linda]

So upsetting, Kathie. I'm glad your Sam is okay. But what about you? I'd be totally freaked and I'm sure you are too!

[K9-Lovers]

It is just mind boggling that someone would shoot your dog while it is INSIDE your lanai! Poor little sweetheart. Very scary. Please keep us updated if you learn who dunnit.

[Boomer]

Kathie,

I am so sorry. How awful.

I am thankful that your dog is doing fine.

Many years ago, we found that our dog had a bullet in her. Her name was Mandy. She managed to sneak out of our yard once and was gone on an adventure for several hours. She returned to us, safe and sound, but a couple of years later when she was being checked for something else, the vet saw the bullet. We did not really know when it had happened, but we wondered about the time she was gone for a while. It was a real bullet, but she had a nice little layer of fat that had trapped it and there it stayed for the rest of her long life and through many more adventures.

I am so glad Sam is OK. But I know the thought of this happening is a terrible feeling for you.

Boomer

[mac9]

:cus:Kathie, I am so sorry and upset that this happened to you and Sam. I know that we think of TV as some sort of Utopia, but it is filled with people from all walks of life and they bring whatever hates and prejudices they have always had. I think that the hole in your screen adds credence to my thoughts.

[redwitch]

Oh, Kathie, I'm so very, very sorry. I can only imagine your pain and anger that this happened to Sam. To have a beloved pet get hurt is bad enough but to have it happen in your own home makes it so frightening. Let's hope that it was an errant act by a stranger or, better yet, an accidental shooting so that you can one day again feel safe letting your babies out on the lanai. Many HUGS.

[Taltarzac]

Sorry that happened KathieI. Please keep us informed about your report to the police and your dog's health.

There do seem to be some dog haters here in the Villages as some of the posts here on TOTV seem to show.

What kind of pellet was this? BB?

Any neighbors take trips to the air gun shooting range at Rio Grande Recreational Center?

[tudacee]

Hearing this just makes me sick. Years ago, a neighbor shot our dog and he was arrested by the police. He was doing it for "target practice"..this was in
CT

I hope somehow the sob gets his due...and I'm happy to hear the wee doggie is doing good.

:doggie:
Donna (and my dog,
Romeo sends his good wishes too)

[kandj]

OMG, I would be so upset if this had happened to my dog(s)! I do not have any living with us presently. We had an Akita that we adored. He scared "the dickens" out of anyone that trespassed and I was more than OK with that. We had to put him down when he could no longer recognize family members.

If I had to live alone, an Akita would be my first prefernce of a dog.

[2newyorkers]

Kathie, I am so sorry.

[ladylake1]

So sorry to hear about Sam. Thankfully he is OK but it is still traumatic.

[ajbrown]

:shocked: Sorry to hear a story like that and glad to hear all turned out well. My state of mind would definitely be affected if I learned a bullet was in our dog Caly. I would be constantly thinking who what when where why....

I cannot imagine it happening in TV...... actually I cannot imagine someone's pet being shot intentionally ANYWHERE, but awful people exist. Sounds like you may never know for sure the why, when or where, which IMO is even worse.

I have heard stories of pets being shot without the shooter knowing, but see no way that happens in TV without you living on a border where folks shoot on the farm, etc.

Hopefully your state of mind returns to calm, so you and Sam can try to get back to normal.....

[dillywho]

So sorry to hear about Sam, Kathie. There's no excuse for something like this or any type of animal cruelty. Let's just hope that it was an accident and that whoever did it had no idea that there was a stray shot. Hopefully, they will step forward and do the right thing if they realize there was a stray and it was theirs. If it was deliberate, _________ (you can fill in the blank)!!

That being said, there's no excuse for any kind of "sport shooting" here in TV except in a controlled environment such as the archery range. TV is a populated area, not remote countryside.

[jebartle]

Hard to believe that there are people that get a thrill in harming a helpless animal....I know that karma will be the answer..

[Taltarzac]

Some dog owners with their pets do go to the field just south of the Rio Grande Recreational Center. There is also a very small area the Villages Recreation use for an air gun range there.

The air gun range is not much bigger than a typical Villages garage. I suppose an accident could occur there at the Rio Grande Rec Center that would result in a pet having a pellet in him or her even though it looked like a lot of safety precauations were being taken at the air gun range.

The air guns I have used required the shooter to first pump it up. I am not sure if the air guns are still like this?

[nitehawk]

It's frightening to think that there is someone lurking around our homes who is willing to shoot a defenseless animal. I'm outraged!!! If your dogs bark perhaps a disgruntled neighbor is to blame. Whoever did such a thing is sick. I'm sorry that your peace of mind has been violated.

I agree - I am sorry - just wondering - is your dog (or dogs) barkers?

[actor]

Hard to believe that there are people that get a thrill in harming a helpless animal....I know that karma will be the answer..

a lot of places, in Montana, in Alaska and apparently in The Villages.

[Taltarzac]

http://www.airgundepot.com/popular-pellet-rifles.html

I have not shot a pellet gun since I was around 13 years old, but looking at some of the products on the above linked site; it seems that a pellet fired from some of these guns would travel quite far and would probably kill a pet outright if hit from 10 yards or less.

This could have been an accident depending on KathieI's home layout.

I still have a scar on my pinky finger from where a fellow 13 year old shot me with his BB gun. That was from about three feet and the gun had not been pumped up that much. That was not an accident though just a punk with a gun.

[Yoda]

My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.

[MSNPA]

Kathie, I'm so very sorry this happened to your dog. Nothing upsets me more than when something bad happens to animals especially when a human hurts an animal on purpose. Hope all goes well in keeping your little guy well.

[Boudicca]

SO sorry to read that someone here in TVs could be so mean spirited as to harm a defenceless animal. Thank you for the "heads up" because our little dog spends a lot of time in the lanai.... :(

[2BNTV]

I am so sorry that you are upset. I hope Sam is doing well.

Hopefully, you can get some information as to how something like this could have happened to Sam and ease your mind.

[scrapple]

My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.

Real nice, dude. :loco:

Kathy, sorry for the violation you and your dog experienced.

[Halle]

Kathie,
So sorry to hear about Sam being shot but very happy to hear he is doing well. :doggie:

My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.

:cus: NOT NICE OR FUNNY!

Sure glad you are not my neighbor!

[KathieI]

Kathie,
So sorry to hear about Sam being shot but very happy to hear he is doing well. :doggie:



:cus: NOT NICE OR FUNNY!

Sure glad you are not my neighbor!

Thanks Halle and Scrapple, I don't think Yoda's comment was very nice either... not funny and dumb on top of that.

[Chi-Town]

My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.
I doubt that permission was granted from Lucas Licensing Ltd. for use of the Yoda avatar.

[nONIE]

Kathie,

I am appalled at the cruel and disgusting behavior o f some people toward animals. Poor Sammy, Im sure nothing he could have done deserved that.

It reminds me of the primitive cruelty of some of our neighbors when I was a kid. They used to poison our cats and they would suffer horribly before they died.

I sure would like to put a pellet in the butt of whoever did that to Sam! :swear:

[sandybill2]

I am so sorry this happened to your dog. We have lots of dogs in our neighborhood---and love them all-- Can't imagine that you have someone in your neighborhood that would do such a terrible thing.

[joannej]

[QUOTE=Yoda;314411]My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.[QUOTE]
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Did someone take your puppy away when you were young? Is that the reason why you made that comment or are you just an instigator trying to take over this thread?

Kathy: I'm very sorry that this happened to your dog here in TV.

[Yoda]

[QUOTE=Yoda;314411]My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.[QUOTE]
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Did someone take your puppy away when you were young? Is that the reason why you made that comment or are you just an instigator trying to take over this thread?

Kathy: I'm very sorry that this happened to your dog here in TV.

I feel sorry for the dog. I bet it hurt. As soon as it happened, he probably forgot about it. Dogs are after all smarter that people.

Accidents happen. I would hope that nobody would shoot a pet on purpose. That said, I am sorry if I offended anyone but four pages?

The dog forgot it. He moved on. Why can't people. Again, sorry if I offend.

Yoda

[nONIE]

yoda,

please THINK before you post!!!!!

there are many animal lovers in The villages and this appeared to be a very unkind post.

[Shirleevee]

My dog had a foot up his butt once. He's fine now. A much more polite pooch.

Yoda

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.

...and some people.....amen!

[Boomer]

There was a time on TOTV when hateful, hurtful posts got bounced. Now, I see them hang there and hang there and hang there. This is not the first time recently.

The tone of TOTV is changing. Insidious -- maybe. But it's there.

The admins set the tone for the forum. I wonder if our ringmaster sees these things as bait for more hits.

If so -- too bad...so sad. TOTV has always managed to set itself apart by not allowing open-season.

Concerned Boomer

[Halle]

There was a time on TOTV when hateful, hurtful posts got bounced. Now, I see them hang there and hang there and hang there. This is not the first time recently.

The tone of TOTV is changing. Insidious -- maybe. But it's there.

The admins set the tone for the forum. I wonder if our ringmaster sees these things as bait for more hits.

If so -- too bad...so sad. TOTV has always managed to set itself apart by not allowing open-season.

Concerned Boomer

I agree Boomer the tone has changed and not for the better.

I think you are right it is all about business and unfortunately the post that have a negative or confrontational tone seem to attract more attention.

[KathieI]

There was a time on TOTV when hateful, hurtful posts got bounced. Now, I see them hang there and hang there and hang there. This is not the first time recently.

The tone of TOTV is changing. Insidious -- maybe. But it's there.

The admins set the tone for the forum. I wonder if our ringmaster sees these things as bait for more hits.

If so -- too bad...so sad. TOTV has always managed to set itself apart by not allowing open-season.

Concerned Boomer

I agree Boomer the tone has changed and not for the better.

I think you are right it is all about business and unfortunately the post that have a negative or confrontational tone seem to attract more attention.

I agree Ladies, thank you. I'm sad that the tone has changed so drastically and that some posters are just let off with an apology that isn't very sincere, in my opinion.

[mgm4444]

I agree with nONIE, Shirleevee, Boomer, Halle and KathieI. -- Kinda' feels like the neighborhood is changing...in not a good way. That's always sad.

[redwitch]

I think it goes in streaks. Right now, we seem to be in an ugly streak again -- more anger, more vitriol, just more .... Hopefully, it will change to what it was once again -- a warm, loving place to find about TV, to vent a little, to joke around a bit, but not a place for name calling or finger pointing.

(Personally, I think Yoda tried to make a joke that seriously backfired. Yoda was chastised. Let's try to go back to the old way, which let bad behavior drop once the nature of the beast was shown.)

In the meantime, Kathie, how are you doing now that the initial shock and anger are gone? (Mind you, I said "initial," not all.) Hugs, hon!

[graciegirl]

This is very troubling Kathie.

Was the hole in your screen to the back...so someone would have shot from across the pond?

I don't know anything about bb guns , about how far away a shot carries.

I would call the cops if I were you.

[Barefoot]

P.S. We wouldn't have all these problems if we just banned all pets from TV.

Kathie, so sorry to hear about Sam's troubles. Hurting a vulnerable animal is the lowest form of cowardice.

Yoda, I hope you were speaking in jest. :ohdear:

[Pturner]

KathieI

I'm upset and outraged! What was done to you and Sam, was done to all of us. I am so, so sorry.

[Yoda]

(Personally, I think Yoda tried to make a joke that seriously backfired. Yoda was chastised. Let's try to go back to the old way, which let bad behavior drop once the nature of the beast was shown.)

thank you red. (I make it into more trouble for this .) I will admit that I did attempt some humor and obviously it wasn't taken as being very humorous. I wasn't trying to be funny was trying to change the direction of the post. Not hijack it, just changes direction.

As I said before I feel very badly for the pet. And I feel badly for Kathy. And it took me a couple of pages before I made the comment. I was watching the way to the host was going and I tried to lighten it up. My bad, I guess.

And the first assumption was that "there is a hater in TV and we must watch out for him/her."

Next we have a Inch hole in the screen.

Next, called the sheriff?

Next we mention the guns.

Next, someone may be lurking to shoot defenseless animals watch out for your neighbor peace of mind has been violated.

Next we are convinced that someone shot the dog while in the Lani.

Next hole in the screen is evidence.

At this point there are only two pages of posts and I'm sure you can see the direction that it's going in. That's when I tried to insert a little levity and try to change the direction. Mea culpa mea culpa.

Could somebody have shot the pet? Sure. I going to look through the hole on the screen and wonder if it was your neighbor who might happen to line up with the hole who shot the puppy? Do you think that perhaps it was a ghetto style drive-by shooting?

I assure you if there was a half-inch hole in the screen and air gun pellet, BB or a real bullet fired from a gun would not have left a half-inch hole.

Based on my experience what an All probability happened was that the pellet was picked up by a lawn mower. I think you'll find this is a very common type accident here in the villages with all the landscaping that goes on.

I probably should have just shut up and let you post continue on to its ultimate conclusion of a conspiracy of frustrated dog nappers and everybody walking their pets in their bedrooms.

Sorry for the joke. Sorry for the comments. Continue on.

Yoda

[Sparky-30]

Just wondering, is it possible your dog was on the lanai when grass cutting was going on and and the mower could have picked up a small stone like object throwing it thru the screen into the dog?

[graciegirl]

thank you red. (I make it into more trouble for this .) I will admit that I did attempt some humor and obviously it wasn't taken as being very humorous. I wasn't trying to be funny was trying to change the direction of the post. Not hijack it, just changes direction.

As I said before I feel very badly for the pet. And I feel badly for Kathy. And it took me a couple of pages before I made the comment. I was watching the way to the host was going and I tried to lighten it up. My bad, I guess.

And the first assumption was that "there is a hater in TV and we must watch out for him/her."

Next we have a Inch hole in the screen.

Next, called the sheriff?



Next we mention the guns.

Next, someone may be lurking to shoot defenseless animals watch out for your neighbor peace of mind has been violated.

Next we are convinced that someone shot the dog while in the Lani.

Next hole in the screen is evidence.

At this point there are only two pages of posts and I'm sure you can see the direction that it's going in. That's when I tried to insert a little levity and try to change the direction. Mea culpa mea culpa.

Could somebody have shot the pet? Sure. I going to look through the hole on the screen and wonder if it was your neighbor who might happen to line up with the hole who shot the puppy? Do you think that perhaps it was a ghetto style drive-by shooting?

I assure you if there was a half-inch hole in the screen and air gun pellet, BB or a real bullet fired from a gun would not have left a half-inch hole.

Based on my experience what an All probability happened was that the pellet was picked up by a lawn mower. I think you'll find this is a very common type accident here in the villages with all the landscaping that goes on.

I probably should have just shut up and let you post continue on to its ultimate conclusion of a conspiracy of frustrated dog nappers and everybody walking their pets in their bedrooms.

Sorry for the joke. Sorry for the comments. Continue on.

Yoda

Makes sense to me. I knew you had to be kidding, Yoda.

We grown up folks have tooooooo much time on our hands.:):):)

[redwitch]

I hadn't thought of the cutters and projectiles, but it really does make sense. I've seen what some of those small (and I do mean small!!!) pebbles can do to a lanai enclosure (glass or screen). I certainly prefer this theory to someone deliberately shooting Sam and it makes a lot more sense.

[Taltarzac]

One the theory of lawn mowers and projectiles--

A pellet would probably have a rather unique shape in an x-ray though if that is how the vet treated Sam. http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/calibers/

I would also hope that the vet would take out something that could be quite dirty and cause an infection too.

I just saw Yoda's post as an ill advised attempt at levity.

[BernieJr]

Hi, I am just wondering why you exzonarated your nieghbors and blame a contractor? It would be easier for an nieghbor to commit this horrible act than it would be for a contractors employee to be walking around the Villages with a pellet gun looking for a target. Does your Lania back up to houses for easy access to nieghbors or a street where anyone driving by could have taken a shot? I feel for you but you should investigate all possibilities before singling out anyone.

[Yoda]

Hi, I am just wondering why you exzonarated your nieghbors and blame a contractor? It would be easier for an nieghbor to commit this horrible act than it would be for a contractors employee to be walking around the Villages with a pellet gun looking for a target. Does your Lania back up to houses for easy access to nieghbors or a street where anyone driving by could have taken a shot? I feel for you but you should investigate all possibilities before singling out anyone.

I was not trying to exonerate anything. I was just trying to head off a self generating fear campaign. Thats how they start.

Yoda

[The Great Fumar]

:mademyday: Once upon a time we had a neighbor whose dog would bark every time he left and would continue to bark until he returned , the neighborhood was ready to draw straws to see who would shoot the dog,,,,To try to calm the situation I volunteered to go and talk to the neighbor ..... It worked and calm returned to our neighborhood ....about a week later I was informed that the owner had put the dog down !!!!! I vowed that I would never confront a neighbor about his animal again , Its easier to just sit and bitch about it..
MUCH EASIER.......

Besides you may not be looking at this incident from the right prospective, This in fact may be a bungled attempted suicide (could be ).....

anyone who thinks that their doggie is smarter than they are is probably right.............

fumar the sleuth..........

[Chi-Town]

could be a title of a country tune.

[redwitch]

Bernie, I don't think Yoda was saying a contractor tried to shoot the dog but rather that a lawnmower hit something or maybe even a bearing came out and it accidently "shot" Sam. While the chances of this happening are remote, they are certainly in the realm of possibilities. I am truly hoping this is what happened. An accident is a much better scenario.