DIY Mini split system

[villagetinker]

Has anyone successfully completed a DIY mini split for a lanai. I am specifically interested in any potential pitfalls with building department inspections and permits.
I am looking at the Mr. Cool system specifically designed for DIY installation.

Please feel free to use private message if necessary.

[tophcfa]

Has anyone successfully completed a DIY mini split for a lanai. I am specifically interested in any potential pitfalls with building department inspections and permits.
I am looking at the Mr. Cool system specifically designed for DIY installation.

Please feel free to use private message if necessary.

I am of no help regarding building department inspections and permits, but I can tell you the actual installation is very easy. For me the only difficult part was making the hole through the exterior wall to run the refrigerant and drainage lines and wiring. I had to go through the wall of a log home, which wasn’t easy. It would be easy through a stick framed home but obviously more difficult if you have concrete block. Our home up north is in the middle of nowhere so I didn’t pull any permits, out of sight, out of mind! Good luck with the project.

[bob47]

Just curious, how do you DIY pull a vacuum on the system? Or is it not necessary?

[blueash]

If you would just charge ten dollars for every helpful comment you have made, you would have enough to pay someone do it for you.

[Toymeister]

Just curious, how do you DIY pull a vacuum on the system? Or is it not necessary?

Not required with Mr. Cool products.

[Hardlyworking]

I put one in a log cabin in TN. Drilling the hole was the worst part. As far as the inspection, you will need to have an electrician run a line near where the condenser will be placed.

[Malsua]

Has anyone successfully completed a DIY mini split for a lanai. I am specifically interested in any potential pitfalls with building department inspections and permits.
I am looking at the Mr. Cool system specifically designed for DIY installation.

Please feel free to use private message if necessary.

I've installed one.

I ended up buying a tubular torque wrench to get the nut fittings torqued properly.

I also bought a 90mm SDS plus shank drill bit to get through the block to run the lines. It was a $22 Amazon special, worked just fine but took a while.

Figure out a way to have whatever is left of your coiled up lineset lines laying flat since you can't trim them. Do trim the electrical wire from the condenser to the evaporator but they come with premade connectors.

There needs to be a disconnect at the unit. There should be a liquid tight flexible connection from the disconnect to the condenser.

Plan on buying a ductless line cover kit to neaten up the install.

I bought an outdoor wall mounting kit to mount to the block. If you go that route, do read the reviews, many of them are flimsy. I bought a very stout one.

[rhood]

Has anyone successfully completed a DIY mini split for a lanai. I am specifically interested in any potential pitfalls with building department inspections and permits.
I am looking at the Mr. Cool system specifically designed for DIY installation.

Please feel free to use private message if necessary.

You might consider a unit like they have in most motels the have both heat and air. Self contained and mount near the floor. Even though our covenants say central HVAC only, who's to know? Amazon, $1000 to $1300 or so.

[TommyT]

Here is a video I watched where this guy installed a Mr. Cool split system that I found very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbts4cbuSdY

Seems easy enough ...

[villagetinker]

Some more specific questions:
1. Were you able to use the new PVC pad for the outside unit?
2. How did you specify the de-humidifier operation only? Someone told me there was a module inside the unit???

[skippy05]

Mr cool too expensive. Real AC companies will pull a permit and that will make it appear forever on your property tax. The solution: go on Facebook market place and search mini split. Lots of reasonable priced guys doing it under the radar with new equipment and no permits. And are still doing nice work.

[ithos]

Has anyone successfully completed a DIY mini split for a lanai. I am specifically interested in any potential pitfalls with building department inspections and permits.
I am looking at the Mr. Cool system specifically designed for DIY installation.

Please feel free to use private message if necessary.

For the technical side for which you may not need, There are at least several dozen on Mr Cool mini splits.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=install+mini+split+Mr+cool

And if you would be so kind, provide an update if you complete the project including any videos that were helpful.

[Alarmed]

Even if you install it yourself it is best to have the HVAC guy hook up the pre-charged lines to get your warranty from Mr. Cool.

Rite Temp is very reasonable and will install the equipment you buy.

[Hardlyworking]

Even if you install it yourself it is best to have the HVAC guy hook up the pre-charged lines to get your warranty from Mr. Cool.

Rite Temp is very reasonable and will install the equipment you buy.

That’s not necessary if you buy the DIY Mr Cool system.

[Hardlyworking]

You might consider a unit like they have in most motels the have both heat and air. Self contained and mount near the floor. Even though our covenants say central HVAC only, who's to know? Amazon, $1000 to $1300 or so.

These mini-splits do heat and air.

[ahrens fox]

This might create a problem when you want to sell the property. The home inspection looks to see if permits have been pulled for qualifying projects.

[rsmurano]

Why would anybody install their own mini split system or put in a terrible looking hotel type unit on the side of your house? If any of my neighbors would put in 1 of those hotel units where I can see it, they would be reported, sorry.
Not all mini split systems are taxed or are put on your tax records, you buy 1 from a dealer that classifies it as a dehumidifier, plus you get a federal tax refund.
I bought the better looking mini split that gets installed in your ceiling instead of having that big ugly unit on your wall. Sure it was another $1000 but well worth it to not have to look at the ugly indoor unit every day.
Also, if you do put in a mini split, get a smart thermostat for it and throw away the remote you have to use. I have a unit that is comparable to an ecobee for my mini split unit to have different programming scenarios for heat, cool and time of day

[villagetinker]

Let me clarify, I will be getting permits, building and electrical, but I had 2 estimates for this work, both were in excess of $5000 to $6000. This unit I am looking at is less than $2000, and allowing $500 for permits and actual inspections, there is a considerable savings. I was looking for the potential gotcha of using the unit as a dehumidifier only. I was told there was a "module" for this type operation, I will be calling Mr. Cool for additional info.

[Vernon Hud]

I installed one myself this past winter. My Lani is right around 600 sq ft, so I did go with the 12000 btu, so I could use 120 volt electrical, if you go higher than 12000 BTU, you do have to go 240. Also the 12000 BTU comes with precharged 25 ft cooling lines, and electrical line. Just follow their instructions, and you will be fine. I did buy the brackett that bolts onto the house, it is a very well made brackett, and does have a small level built right onto the brackett, and I also bought their package of covers to cover up lines. The only thing I hired out was electrical, because they do tell you to have a shutoff box next to the unit. I believe all the Mr Cool units heat and cool. I was really impressed by the heating and cooling of the unit. The whole package cost me around $ 2200 dollars.

[Hardlyworking]

Let me clarify, I will be getting permits, building and electrical, but I had 2 estimates for this work, both were in excess of $5000 to $6000. This unit I am looking at is less than $2000, and allowing $500 for permits and actual inspections, there is a considerable savings. I was looking for the potential gotcha of using the unit as a dehumidifier only. I was told there was a "module" for this type operation, I will be calling Mr. Cool for additional info.

I would be glad to help you out on the installation, just let me know when you’d be ready.

[Miboater]

I just got an email from Costco and they have a Mr. Cool 24K btu mini split on sale for $1999 which is $300 off their normal price. I thought I would pass this info on in case it's a better price.

[Miboater]

Looking further into this they also have the 18K btu unit on sale for $1899 and the 12K btu unit for $1449.

[jrdoran64]

@villageTinkerer. Can you provide any update on your project ? I will be following in your footsteps.

[villagetinker]

Never installed, I tripped over the class 3 enclosure rules. Basically, you CANNOT get the required De-Humidity functionality from any of the companies that carry the DIY (Mr. Cool etc.), they will NOY supply the letter that the local A/C companies have been able to get for the Mitsubishi systems. Ths letter is required for the building permit, etc. So my only option is to pay one of these companies $5000 to $6000 to install the system that I could buy for $2000 and install myself. As for the class 3 rules, for Sumter County these state the room will not be air conditioned, hence the only option is the De-humidifier option.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Let me clarify, I will be getting permits, building and electrical, but I had 2 estimates for this work, both were in excess of $5000 to $6000. This unit I am looking at is less than $2000, and allowing $500 for permits and actual inspections, there is a considerable savings. I was looking for the potential gotcha of using the unit as a dehumidifier only. I was told there was a "module" for this type operation, I will be calling Mr. Cool for additional info.

So - I just checked the VCCDD about something else and saw that only central air is allowed, /and/ no window units are allowed. A mini-split isn't a window unit, but it's also not central air. On the other hand, mini-splits didn't exist when the deeds were written up in my part of The Villages. So do they fall into a grey area where ARC won't forbid them on a lanai? OR will ARC allow them if you ask? Or will they order you to remove them and patch up the hole in your house if someone files a complaint?

[jrdoran64]

My intended usage is to cool / and reduce humidity in my garage. Does a garage install still require the letter for a building permit ? I get the sense it is related to square footage requirements, but frankly, I'm just wading into this pool and have a lot to learn on the ARC do's and don'ts.

[villagetinker]

My intended usage is to cool / and reduce humidity in my garage. Does a garage install still require the letter for a building permit ? I get the sense it is related to square footage requirements, but frankly, I'm just wading into this pool and have a lot to learn on the ARC do's and don'ts.

No idea on the garage, you need to call the building department.

[villagetinker]

So - I just checked the VCCDD about something else and saw that only central air is allowed, /and/ no window units are allowed. A mini-split isn't a window unit, but it's also not central air. On the other hand, mini-splits didn't exist when the deeds were written up in my part of The Villages. So do they fall into a grey area where ARC won't forbid them on a lanai? OR will ARC allow them if you ask? Or will they order you to remove them and patch up the hole in your house if someone files a complaint?

ARC was NOT the problem, the problem is with the Sumter County building department as you do need a permit for a lanai installation, both electrical and building permits. It is a long story, but feel free to send me a private message and we can discuss over the phone.