Blue Lights on Carts

[Hape2Bhr]

I know this has been discussed in the past, but just wondering if the law has been changed regarding blue lights. In the past week I've seen several carts with blue LED accent lights. One of them additionally had them on the under carriage resulting in a blue hue around the entire cart. Is this now legal? :gc:

[Bill14564]

I know this has been discussed in the past, but just wondering if the law has been changed regarding blue lights. In the past week I've seen several carts with blue LED accent lights. One of them additionally had them on the under carriage resulting in a blue hue around the entire cart. Is this now legal? :gc:

When was it not legal?

[Bilyclub]

When was it not legal?


316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—
(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Means you might be good on the MMP's but not on a public street.

[dewilson58]

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited

Means you might be good on the MMP's but not on a public street.

:loco::loco::loco:

OMG


There is no way a "Copper" is going to pull me over because I have LED's under my golf cart because it's red or blue or green, or yellow.

:beer3:

[Bill14564]

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—
(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Means you might be good on the MMP's but not on a public street.

Thanks.

Fair enough but I should have also asked if these were blue headlights or the bluish tint that some lights have.

Either way, as dewilso pointed out, I’m not too worried about being stopped.

[Bilyclub]

I think this guy would have gotten the ticket last year.


Default Wannabe Golf Cart Cop
Does anyone have any knowledge or have experienced anything like my ride home from Brownwood Square last Thursday night.
Heading back south to the Monarch Grove area in my golf cart I was approached in the dark by a assclown in a golf cart with blue and red flashing lights from behind, I was the third cart in a line heading south, thinking I was getting “pulled over “ by a law enforcement officer I pulled off of the cart path, this impersonator passed me and continued to startle the two carts in front of me. He was clocking about 30mph at this point, I noticed that he had two sets of golf clubs on his cart, meaning that it was very doubtful he has any authority as a golf cart cop. Don’t know the exact statue of impersonating a police officer in Florida but I’m sure it’s pretty serious. I would like to know more information about this individual if any of you have experienced this before.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I think this guy would have gotten the ticket last year.


Default Wannabe Golf Cart Cop
Does anyone have any knowledge or have experienced anything like my ride home from Brownwood Square last Thursday night.
Heading back south to the Monarch Grove area in my golf cart I was approached in the dark by a assclown in a golf cart with blue and red flashing lights from behind, I was the third cart in a line heading south, thinking I was getting “pulled over “ by a law enforcement officer I pulled off of the cart path, this impersonator passed me and continued to startle the two carts in front of me. He was clocking about 30mph at this point, I noticed that he had two sets of golf clubs on his cart, meaning that it was very doubtful he has any authority as a golf cart cop. Don’t know the exact statue of impersonating a police officer in Florida but I’m sure it’s pretty serious. I would like to know more information about this individual if any of you have experienced this before.

LOL! somebody's in trouble with the wife! Need to get home ASAP without the mistress

[BobnBev]

Did you get his license plate---oh, wait---never mind.:mornincoffee:

[bowlingal]

where are the "coppers" when you need them? Lots and lots of speeders out there that should be ticketed.

[huge-pigeons]

where are the "coppers" when you need them? Lots and lots of speeders out there that should be ticketed.

I agree about where are the cops. There are too many people going to slow driving a golf cart that need to be ticketed too. There are restrictions on our highways about going to slow, we need the same rules on our mmp’s

[midiwiz]

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—
(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


WOW Seriously? Let me interject this: For many years those that have lit their motorcycles have had the ground effect lights etc that are and can be blue or red. The exacting piece of the law is intended to eliminate 'the fakes' i.e., attempting to look like an emergency vehicle. This really means no light bar, no head lights (or add-ons).

Silly topics OMG.....

[GizmoWhiskers]

I agree about where are the cops. There are too many people going to slow driving a golf cart that need to be ticketed too. There are restrictions on our highways about going to slow, we need the same rules on our mmp’s
Too slow in a golf cart?? Pedal to the medal some carts can only go 15 mph. Is it that hard to pass a slower cart when safe to do so? If speed is one's thing then drive a car.

There actually are some newer golf carts out there that have blinding white LED head lights. Some with spot light type LEDs mounted on the roof top, same thing and it is a bit much.

Why the deer hunting lights on a golf cart, blinding drivers of oncoming carts or cars? Common sense for safety out the window.

[jimkerr]

I know this has been discussed in the past, but just wondering if the law has been changed regarding blue lights. In the past week I've seen several carts with blue LED accent lights. One of them additionally had them on the under carriage resulting in a blue hue around the entire cart. Is this now legal? :gc:

No nothings changed. It’s just a golf cart. No big deal.

[NoMo50]

Many states, including Florida, have a statute that prohibit the display of red or blue lights toward the front of the vehicle. This is because emergency vehicles use those color lights. By the strict letter of the law, if someone has blue lights that project from the front of a cart operated on a public roadway, they can be ticketed, and forced to remove the lights.

[bark4me]

I know this has been discussed in the past, but just wondering if the law has been changed regarding blue lights. In the past week I've seen several carts with blue LED accent lights. One of them additionally had them on the under carriage resulting in a blue hue around the entire cart. Is this now legal? :gc:
Technically no, it is not legal when your cart is on the roadway (same road vehicles travel on). It is legal however on the multimotal paths. Now, is LEO going to stop every golf car in violation of this? Most likely not because they have other more important things to do however they could.

[JerseyGurl]

Some of these lights are overdone and flicker. Blinding to on coming carts.

[mikeycereal]

Now I want to get me some boogie lights. :duck:

[bark4me]

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—
(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Means you might be good on the MMP's but not on a public street.
You are 110% correct! ������

[bark4me]

:loco::loco::loco:

OMG


There is no way a "Copper" is going to pull me over because I have LED's under my golf cart because it's red or blue or green, or yellow.

:beer3:
Oh yes they will. You're OK with green and yellow

[bark4me]

Thanks.

Fair enough but I should have also asked if these were blue headlights or the bluish tint that some lights have.

Either way, as dewilso pointed out, I’m not too worried about being stopped.
Yes, that goes for blue headlights or blue halo rings around the headlights.

[Dantes]

Law enforcement has no authority whatsoever on the multi modal path.
Except for two exceptions, someone broke the law on the streets and trying to avoid apprehension go onto the paths. Then law-enforcement has a right to pursue them. Secondly, if there is an accident with injuries, the police may come onto the path and if the person is drunk they can be charged with DUI. These are basically the only times they can be on the path, they cannot do any speed enforcement

[DonH57]

Too slow in a golf cart?? Pedal to the medal some carts can only go 15 mph. Is it that hard to pass a slower cart when safe to do so? If speed is one's thing then drive a car.

There actually are some newer golf carts out there that have blinding white led head lights. Some with spot light type leds, same thing and it is a bit much.

Why the deer hunting lights on a golf cart, blinding drivers of oncoming carts or cars? Common sense for safety out the window.

That's what I've asked myself. What's with the deer hunting lights aimed everywhere else but the cart path blinding oncoming drivers? Are they that vision impaired?

[Whitley]

:loco::loco::loco:

OMG


There is no way a "Copper" is going to pull me over because I have LED's under my golf cart because it's red or blue or green, or yellow.

:beer3:

It has been done. The logic is that only police may have blue and or red lights. They are hoping to prevent someone impersonating a police vehicle and taking advantage of some citizen. While an officer may not pull you over just for a blue light under your golf cart, it can be used as a reason to stop you and then go on from there.

[dewilson58]

It has NEVER been legal in Florida - or any other state - to have blue lights on any type of vehicle other than a police vehicle.

False.

Go thru Missouri, Go thru Kansas, Go thru Colorado.

[Timeweaver1]

I believe my friend got a warning ticket in the last 60 days and had to change all of the blue lights on his yesteryear golf cart. This was the north part of TV

[dewilson58]

It is also illegal on the MMP because they cross public roadways.

Not illegal on the MMP not on roadway.

[bsinnett]

We have lights around our headlights that change colors to what we set or to music from our phones. I have them set for red white and blue but guess I should change that?

[Challenger]

LOL! somebody's in trouble with the wife! Need to get home ASAP without the mistress

I had a similar experience at the corner of St James and Bailey a few years ago. Golf cart approaching rapidly from rear with blue lights just before dawn. Lights began flashing when about 25 yds back. I turned corner and pulled over. As he rounded corner behind me I shouted my displeasure and questioned legality of blue lights on motor vehicle on road. He stopped and offered a colorful nasty response from his Blue U of K adorned cart.

[Jokomo]

I agree about where are the cops. There are too many people going to slow driving a golf cart that need to be ticketed too. There are restrictions on our highways about going to slow, we need the same rules on our mmp’s

😂😂😂

[NavyVet]

If you have the rows of little LED bulbs, maybe you could just alternate the red and blue bulbs every other one, so the undercarriage glows purple. Problem Solved! LOL

[CoachKandSportsguy]

the imaginations of TOTV villagers with too much time on their brains. .
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[Sandy and Ed]

I agree about where are the cops. There are too many people going to slow driving a golf cart that need to be ticketed too. There are restrictions on our highways about going to slow, we need the same rules on our mmp’s
Believe that golf cart speeds are restricted by laws. It is just that some of us feel entitled to break those rules and complain about others who don’t. Our cart goes a maximum of 20 mph unless going downhill where it zooms to 21 mph. Yeah wife and I feel like second class citizens when everyone passes us (with a dirty look and shake if the head) but I guess we’ll just keep the cart at the dealer regulated speed (at least for now. Who knows, maybe I might feel entitled someday)

[Michael 61]

316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.—
(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.
(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.


Means you might be good on the MMP's but not on a public street.

I’m a retired auto insurance claims guy - the first thing you need to do is define the word “vehicle” when interpreting laws/insurance policies. In insurance world, the word “vehicle” refers to a car or other vehicle that is licensed to be driven on public highways (this excludes most golf carts, mopeds, lots of farm equipment, etc.) That is why you need separate golf cart insurance outside your auto policy for coverage from loss.

[dewilson58]

I guess we’ll just keep the cart at the dealer regulated speed (at least for now. Who knows, maybe I might feel entitled someday)

Don't go by "dealer regulated speed"....................TV has been cranking speeds up to 24 mph for years.

Don't sit too high on your horse, I assume you have exceeded the speed limit in your car over the years. :22yikes:

:mornincoffee:

[Maker]

I've seen that cart. It's beyond illegal. No question about it.
If the cart driver causes any accident because someone did something because of seeing those lights, that cart driver is legally responsible for damages and injuries. His insurance would not cover him because he is deliberately doing something illegal. Lawyers will instead go after all his assets (house, savings, 401k, pension). The DA will take a very aggressive view against someone impersonating a police officer who caused an accident by those actions and could seek jail time.
That man is a fool.

[Michael 61]

I've seen that cart. It's beyond illegal. No question about it.
If the cart driver causes any accident because someone did something because of seeing those lights, that cart driver is legally responsible for damages and injuries. His insurance would not cover him because he is deliberately doing something illegal. Lawyers will instead go after all his assets (house, savings, 401k, pension). The DA will take a very aggressive view against someone impersonating a police officer who caused an accident by those actions and could seek jail time.
That man is a fool.

Although I don’t recommend his actions, I have to tell you as a retired insurance claims manager, that the insurance company would probably cover a loss. We used to say that we “insure stupidity”. To deny a loss, a very specific exclusion in the policy needs to be applied to the loss. There is an exclusion “for loss intentionally caused” - which is very hard to enforce, as you can’t be a mind-reader, knowing the person intentionally was trying to cause a loss(you usually need an eye witness for example - saying ahead of time “I’m going to ram my car into personal property”) we covered losses in which drivers were driving intentionally at night knowing their headlamps are out (this is not an intentional act, trying to cause a specific accident - though illegal, there is no clause in auto policy to deny). Trust me, most insurance companies do not want to have to defend a costly law suit - they will only deny coverage if it is crystal clear there is a valid exclusion that applies to loss- often times it was “gray” and the benefit was given to the insured and the loss was covered.

[dewilson58]

I've seen that cart. It's beyond illegal. No question about it.
If the cart driver causes any accident because someone did something because of seeing those lights, that cart driver is legally responsible for damages and injuries. His insurance would not cover him because he is deliberately doing something illegal. Lawyers will instead go after all his assets (house, savings, 401k, pension). The DA will take a very aggressive view against someone impersonating a police officer who caused an accident by those actions and could seek jail time.
That man is a fool.

Maker, you maker stuff up. chilout

[tophcfa]

Better to have a blue light in your cart than a bud light ������

[Bilyclub]

I’m a retired auto insurance claims guy - the first thing you need to do is define the word “vehicle” when interpreting laws/insurance policies. In insurance world, the word “vehicle” refers to a car or other vehicle that is licensed to be driven on public highways (this excludes most golf carts, mopeds, lots of farm equipment, etc.) That is why you need separate golf cart insurance outside your auto policy for coverage from loss.

Anything that legally travels on a public road is usually considered a "vehicle" under traffic codes.

[dewilson58]

Better to have a blue light in your cart than a bud light ������

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[Michael 61]

Anything that legally travels on a public road is usually considered a "vehicle" under traffic codes.

Usually yes - however you were also applying to insurance, which does not have the same definitions.

[Bilyclub]

Usually yes - however you were also applying to insurance, which does not have the same definitions.

I didn't apply anything to insurance. I posted the law.

[darkim]

I know this has been discussed in the past, but just wondering if the law has been changed regarding blue lights. In the past week I've seen several carts with blue LED accent lights. One of them additionally had them on the under carriage resulting in a blue hue around the entire cart. Is this now legal? :gc:
I believe the Law describes a flashing or strobe light … not necessarily a fixed light. Also the multi-modal pathways would be considered private property…the roadway would be public.

[Bilyclub]

I believe the Law describes a flashing or strobe light … not necessarily a fixed light. Also the multi-modal pathways would be considered private property…the roadway would be public.

No, the law says nothing about flashing or strobe, just a blue or red light.

No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.