Pickleball costs Americans up to $500 Million in injuries.

[Caymus]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14

[Taltarzac725]

And what are pickleball's health benefits?

I had a friend at local dog park who was, and still maybe is, a pickleball instructor.

She was here from about 100 miles south where they have a lot more pickleball. Or did. The Villages probably surpassed this other place.

[Kenswing]

Not surprising. We moved into a new village. Within six months four of our friends had broken bones from playing pickleball.

[justjim]

The Orthopedic doctors are busy with the expansion of Pickleball. At our age, you can overdo any sport thinking you were as young as you use to be. From experience, even back issues with too much golf!

[manaboutown]

Why am I not surprised? 60 is not the new 40.

[tophcfa]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14

What the analysis fails to recognize is that getting regular physical exercise can help avoid other aging related health issues . What’s worse, needing a knee replacement because of staying active, or becoming overweight, diabetic, and getting high blood pressure and cholesterol from living a sedate lifestyle? I’ll take the knee replacement.

[Altavia]

Exactly - Risk vs Benefit -- I'll take a knee replacement over a double bypass any day - benefit wins on this one.

[Michael G.]

Exactly - Risk vs Benefit -- I'll take a knee replacement over a double bypass any day - benefit wins on this one.

I don't know, I never been old before. :thumbup:

[Battlebasset]

Exactly - Risk vs Benefit -- I'll take a knee replacement over a double bypass any day - benefit wins on this one.

Yes, but I think the point is that there are ways to exercise that are less stressful on older bodies.

Didn't even know about pickleball till I moved down here. I've played some, and like it well enough. Have some folks about my level, and we enjoy knocking it around.

My issue has been that unlike golf, where I am often paired with folks that have more or less skill than me, it seems to attract people that relish beating others and gloating. I played golf with an incredible player last week. Dropped it on the green off the tee every time almost. Never once did he gloat, or act annoyed when one of my shots wasn't quite as good as his. He gave limited pointers in a gracious manner. He is heading back north, otherwise I would have scheduled with him again. An absolute joy to play with, even though he is light years ahead of me skill-wise.

Pickleball? Seems some folks quickly revert to the 8th grade and forget that at one time, they were beginners too.

[Whitley]

It is definitely fun. Easier than tennis I'd say. There are groups in TV who do not know moderation when it comes to pickleball. First time I played was 20 years ago visiting my inlaws. A group of older ladies were playing on the next court. They got angry and a bit verbally aggressive because the pace we were playing was throwing off their game. The final straw was when a ball bounced off the top of the net and rolled their way. The mouths on those females (I did not ask but they appeared to be). On the way back I made a wrong turn somewhere near cane gardens (?). I ended up by a golf course. The elderly men must have heard the foul female language and taken it as a challenge. When we found our way back to the house I made some improper comment "Worlds friendliest hometown my a$$. Go..." What was this post about?

[asianthree]

Shouldn’t headline be pickle ball injuries cost insurance companies millions. If not people really need to rethink their coverage

[Battlebasset]

It is definitely fun. Easier than tennis I'd say. There are groups in TV who do not know moderation when it comes to pickleball. First time I played was 20 years ago visiting my inlaws. A group of older ladies were playing on the next court. They got angry and a bit verbally aggressive because the pace we were playing was throwing off their game. The final straw was when a ball bounced off the top of the net and rolled their way. The mouths on those females (I did not ask but they appeared to be). On the way back I made a wrong turn somewhere near cane gardens (?). I ended up by a golf course. The elderly men must have heard the foul female language and taken it as a challenge. When we found our way back to the house I made some improper comment "Worlds friendliest hometown my a$$. Go..." What was this post about?

I think those ladies are still around, and I played next to them. I've not experienced what you have on the golf course. Just the opposite. Great people, just out to have a nice time whacking a ball and hanging out.

[Altavia]

Mayo Clinic weighs in

Mayo Clinic Study Suggests Pickleball Contributes To Longevity (https://pickleballunion.com/pickleball-longevity/)

[Ele201]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14
Pickleball is all the rage these days. But it is also a demanding sport and many older adults who think it’s no big deal may not have the stamina or coordination required for it. And some are getting injured. Sorry to be blunt about it.

[retiredguy123]

I think that diet and weight have a lot more effect on the overall health of older people than exercise.

[huge-pigeons]

Pickleball is a great sport, they claim it is easy to pick up but hard to master. A lot of beginners complain when they go up against more advanced players, WHY? If you don’t like it, then go to dozens of other courts that have your level of play. I’m sure the more advanced players don’t want to play down either so it is a win win.
I gave up tennis to play pickleball with no regrets. PB is a lot more fun on the courts with people at your level than playing tennis.

[mikeycereal]

I used to play ping pong and basketball a lot in my teens-30s. Yes there can be a lot of exertion and stops-starts on the knees. I found pickleball to be very similar to ping-pong and adapted well for a new player during my first couple tries. I'm not into it though but both ping pong and pickleball are great for burning calories and other benefits so not surprised at the health facts. I would suggest warming up lightly before beginning a game though. Maybe doing light weights before going out and playing. Don't stretch when muscles are cold, just do light squats and whatever muscles you'll use the most like back/shoulders. Been a weightlifter all my life and never had major reconstruction or surgeries...yet. Keep the knees strong with weights and keep body weight down to cut down on injures.

[ILLINOIS RAY]

Enough with wasting space on your quotes

[dewilson58]

Enough with wasting space on your quotes

:shrug:

[mdmurrell]

Why am I not surprised? 60 is not the new 40.
Yes, I agree with you on 60 not being the new 40. As much as I prize keeping in shape, at age 77 there are many things that I cannot do well. I tore my meniscus in 2016 and have chosen to not have surgery but find ways through physical exercise to strengthen what I have. I am my own worst enemy when it comes to fitness, not because I won't exercise; but rather because I don't know when to stop. My solution is to do a lot of Pilates, Yoga and hire an exercise physiologist to guide me. The DVD entitled "Maui Pilates" (about $20) has been a lifesaver. BTW I love your Plato quote.

[Debfrommaine]

Pickleball is a blast. It's takes a bit to learn the rules, you've got to have proper shoes etc. There are many beginner pickleball times designated at rec centers where you will also find alot of advanced players on the same court. Staying within your skill level helps.

[SusanStCatherine]

The racquets are too short for the balls which have inadequate bounce. Too many players straining to reach or diving for the ball.

[SusanStCatherine]

At least two cardiac arrests on the pickelball courts I know of at Ezell so far. I was at the sports pool once when someone came over to use the phone for someone down on the pickle ball courts. Need to have phone and AEDs placed right at the pickelball courts. Stay safe out there!

[tombpot]

There are over 3000 softball players in tv, I’m sure they have injuries also.

[SusanStCatherine]

Helping Hands spoke at a VHA meeting I attended. It's the organization that loans out medical equipment. The speaker asked how many of us play pickelball and more than half raised their hands. He said to make sure and pick up one of their cards LOL. Just call 352-973-2284 to speak with one of their Coordinators:
Monday – Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.

[Whitley]

At least two cardiac arrests on the pickelball courts I know of at Ezell so far. I was at the sports pool once when someone came over to use the phone for someone down on the pickle ball courts. Need to have phone and AEDs placed right at the pickelball courts. Stay safe out there!

Years ago there were AED's throughout my inlaws village. A couple of years back they were all removed. Was this a TV decision to remove the AED's, or isolated by Village?

[SusanStCatherine]

Years ago there were AED's throughout my inlaws village. A couple of years back they were all removed. Was this a TV decision to remove the AED's, or isolated by Village?

There is an AED at the rec center someone went to get but it took awhile. There is an extensive AED system set up by residents in St Catherine, but those are near the houses.

[Taltarzac725]

Pickleball is all the rage these days. But it is also a demanding sport and many older adults who think it’s no big deal may not have the stamina or coordination required for it. And some are getting injured. Sorry to be blunt about it.

It probably also depends on whom you are playing as to the rate of play. Almost no one would do well against the Williams' sisters on any kind of tennis court. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTDYuSFWSm8&t=11s

[Pugchief]

At least two cardiac arrests on the pickelball courts I know of at Ezell so far. I was at the sports pool once when someone came over to use the phone for someone down on the pickle ball courts. Need to have phone and AEDs placed right at the pickelball courts. Stay safe out there!

If you live in a community with old folks, they're going to code if their arteries are clogged. Whether it's on the PB court or at ballroom dance, sooner or later something will give. Don't blame the sport.

From the orthopedic view, don't participate in activities at levels that your bones can't handle. Lift weights to make your bones denser and muscles stronger.

[Pugchief]

My issue has been that unlike golf, where I am often paired with folks that have more or less skill than me, it seems to attract people that relish beating others and gloating. I played golf with an incredible player last week. Dropped it on the green off the tee every time almost. Never once did he gloat, or act annoyed when one of my shots wasn't quite as good as his. He gave limited pointers in a gracious manner. He is heading back north, otherwise I would have scheduled with him again. An absolute joy to play with, even though he is light years ahead of me skill-wise.

Pickleball? Seems some folks quickly revert to the 8th grade and forget that at one time, they were beginners too.

Golf isn't PB. If you get paired with a weaker player, it doesn't ruin your game aside from maybe slowing down the pace a bit. In PB, a weak partner completely spoils the game for an advanced player. For that matter, so does a weak opponent. I just don't understand why beginner and adv beginner players don't prefer to play with people at their own level. It's more fun for everyone if you stay in your lane.

[Altavia]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14

Given more than 50 million people are over 65, this seems trivial.

[Dyand]

Cardiovascular disease is and appears to always be the number one health care dollar and killer expense of Americans. Glad to see that pickleball players are attempting to be as active as possible. Knee and hip injuries are nothing compared to heart disease and related issues.

[josephchiro]

Better to wear out than rust out

[Retiredsteve]

Geez, if pickleball is that rough I'll stick with the Villages Hockey team

[Altavia]

The $377 million in health expenditures those players are projected to accrue only accounts for 0.01% of annual national health expenditures.
If anywhere between 9 million and 36 million Americans are only causing 0.01% of the total annual spend on health by playing pickleball, that doesn’t seem alarming.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization says almost 500 million people will develop heart disease, obesity, diabetes or other noncommunicable diseases attributable to physical inactivity, between 2020 and 2030, costing US $27 billion annually.

[Pairadocs]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14

I don't know, isn't the number # killer of seniors, even above heart attacks, slipping in the shower ? Think I'd rather go on the golf course or the pickle-ball court ! But to each their own.

[Rande]

You need exercise to stay independent. Diet and exercise go hand in hand. Many injuries happen because people who start playing pickle ball lack balance, strength, and mobility. There’s more to starting any exercise.
I’m a personal trainer and can’t help but notice all the poor posture I see during my walks.
I can help anyone who wants to improve their sport.

[Larchap49]

Exactly - Risk vs Benefit -- I'll take a knee replacement over a double bypass any day - benefit wins on this one.

Not sure I agree, I had a quad by pass at 60. I was back to work and back in the gym in 6 weeks. I know multi friends and some relatives who had knee replacements and suffered for months and will never do the things they did before. Also both involve a lot of pain but looks like the knee replacements are much longer lasting. Now hips are a different story. I had one replaced in November, walked with a cane for a week, walked normal after 3 weeks and returned to golf in 6 weeks with it feeling perfectly normal with no side effects.

[Janicepyatt]

I'm glad all these people play Pickle Ball...don't want them all on the beach tennis courts.

Very few get hurt playing beach tennis and it's so much easier on the knees, hips, back, etc...

Keep playing Pickle ball please!

[ithos]

Diet is far more important than exercise. Pickle ball will do very little to clear out the plaque that most Americans have built up in their bodies over the years if people do not change their eating habits. If you are taking Viagra, then you will probably be more prone to injury as it is the canary in the coal mine for heart disease.

Tim O’Donnell Reveals He Suffered Heart Attack During Challenge Miami
url]https://www.triathlete.com/culture/news/tim-odonnell-reveals-he-suffered-heart-attack-during-challenge-miami/[/url]

[roob1]

Also be careful if playing pickleball and taking statins. One side effect of statins is torn tendons, especially the achilles.

[Altavia]

Also be careful if playing pickleball and taking statins. One side effect of statins is torn tendons, especially the achilles.

And especially if on blood thinners, for any head injury, go to the ER to be sure there is no brain bleed.

[Number 10 GI]

To paraphrase Dirty Harry, people got to know their limitations.

[Laker14]

When I was 40 I quit playing softball and platform tennis because I kept getting hurt. When I was 65 I tried PB for the first time, and ruptured my achilles. (I was on no medications at the time, so that wasn't a factor). I vowed to never play PB again. However my wife was having so much fun, I broke that vow. I have been addicted to PB now for 3 1/2 years.
What PB has done for me is to have inspired me to take better care of myself. I spend about an hour a day doing exercises to increase my strength and flexibility, and to do some cardio work.
I have made many new friends playing PB, and lost a few lbs as well. After a vigorous session, I feel completely exhilarated.
Turns out, my mistake wasn't taking up PB at the age of 65, but giving up sports at the age of 40 instead of taking care of my body in such a way to allow me to continue.
Whenever a newbie asks me for advice, relative to taking up PB, I caution them. "Go slow, and learn how to take care of your body. If you jump on the court and go all out, like you could when you were a teenager, you'll get hurt."

[Topspinmo]

I found this review by an investment analyst interesting. A recent increase in healthcare utilization rates have been attributed to pickleball. More hip and knee surgeries are taken place.

The original article is on Bloomberg behind a paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/bill-gates-favorite-sport-pickleball-could-cost-americans-up-to-500m-in-injuries-ubs-reports/ar-AA1d4Z5W?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54ed91ef439b4e15accfe08649ce1be4&ei=14


And how much golf, softball, biking and any other active sport costing American?

[Topspinmo]

I'm glad all these people play Pickle Ball...don't want them all on the beach tennis courts.

Very few get hurt playing beach tennis and it's so much easier on the knees, hips, back, etc...

Keep playing Pickle ball please!

That shouldn’t be problem in years I been here seen maybe couple time anybody playing in fact I seen more playing horseshoes.

[Topspinmo]

Not surprising. We moved into a new village. Within six months four of our friends had broken bones from playing pickleball.

Sure they wasn’t playing rugby pickleball? If you’re clumsy and not athletic you’re going to get hurt playing tiddlywinks at older age.

[Topspinmo]

I think that diet and weight have a lot more effect on the overall health of older people than exercise.

You should at lease exercise your heart and lungs by brisk walk this also keeps some muscles stronger. otherwise, eventually will not be able to walk very far without catching you breath which means you heart and lungs are closing down. When go to heart doctors going say exercise if damage don’t require bypass or pace maker.