What is Unit 84? - The Villages Construction Update #128 6/30/23

[Goldwingnut]

What and Where is Unit 84? It’s a new section of houses in The Villages that’s unlike anything we’ve seen in several years. I’ve included a quick history of the different home types here in The Villages that I hope you’ll enjoy as I introduce Unit 84.

I’ve also included a tour of the new Franklin Recreation Center in Newell, there’s a new Then-And-Now segment where I take a look at Bradford and Hawkins and how that area has changed. There’s a brief look at Moultrie Creek, Shallow Creek Championship Golf Course, and the VPSD station 84 location. There’s a look at Middleton and Eastport, as well as 7-11 and CVS at Magnolia Plaza. I also looked at the Hacienda Hills area under construction.

Enjoy,
Don
https://youtu.be/Lged4Bh0s60

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

What and Where is Unit 84? It’s a new section of houses in The Villages that’s unlike anything we’ve seen in several years. I’ve included a quick history of the different home types here in The Villages that I hope you’ll enjoy as I introduce Unit 84.

I’ve also included a tour of the new Franklin Recreation Center in Newell, there’s a new Then-And-Now segment where I take a look at Bradford and Hawkins and how that area has changed. There’s a brief look at Moultrie Creek, Shallow Creek Championship Golf Course, and the VPSD station 84 location. There’s a look at Middleton and Eastport, as well as 7-11 and CVS at Magnolia Plaza. I also looked at the Hacienda Hills area under construction.

Enjoy,
Don
https://youtu.be/Lged4Bh0s60

Thank you!

[C. C. Rider]

What and Where is Unit 84? It’s a new section of houses in The Villages that’s unlike anything we’ve seen in several years. I’ve included a quick history of the different home types here in The Villages that I hope you’ll enjoy as I introduce Unit 84.

I’ve also included a tour of the new Franklin Recreation Center in Newell, there’s a new Then-And-Now segment where I take a look at Bradford and Hawkins and how that area has changed. There’s a brief look at Moultrie Creek, Shallow Creek Championship Golf Course, and the VPSD station 84 location. There’s a look at Middleton and Eastport, as well as 7-11 and CVS at Magnolia Plaza. I also looked at the Hacienda Hills area under construction.

Enjoy,
Don
https://youtu.be/Lged4Bh0s60

Thanks, Don. Very interesting. Very informative.

[FromDC]

Another great video. Very informative! While watching your video, I look at the Feb. 2023 Continuing The Dream map to figure out where you are.

You said that permits have not been pulled, but what will be built on the corners of Warm Springs and Meggison? I thought a rehab facility is targeted for one of the corners.

[Papa_lecki]

Kind of disappointed Unit 84 isn’t some sort of UFO location.

[Altavia]

Kind of disappointed Unit 84 isn’t some sort of UFO location.

That's at Bugg Springs.

[Altavia]

Awesome work Don, very informative and professional as always, they just keep better!

Any hints on when/where to there might be connectivity to the bridge from west of the Turnpike?

[VApeople]

Don, the most surprising thing in your video is the small golf practice area at the new Middleton high school.

It looks like a putting green and two sand traps to practice bunker shots. I have seen a lot of people 'skull' practice sand shots and send the ball flying over the green and endangering other people. It must have been a non-golfer who designed that practice area.

[Goldwingnut]

Awesome work Don, very informative and professional as always, they just keep better!

Any hints on when/where to there might be connectivity to the bridge from west of the Turnpike?

Best guess is just before the schools open in August.

[Goldwingnut]

Another great video. Very informative! While watching your video, I look at the Feb. 2023 Continuing The Dream map to figure out where you are.

You said that permits have not been pulled, but what will be built on the corners of Warm Springs and Meggison? I thought a rehab facility is targeted for one of the corners.

Yes, a medical/rehab has been announced, the property is all designed for commercial development.

If find it amazing that there haven't been more CTD episodes to come out in recent months, as you mentioned Feb23, that was the last one. over 4 1/2 months since it came out. Even then, the last 3 have been minimal information at best.

[Michael 61]

These are great informative videos - I drive by the new 7-11 everyday on my golf cart - I actually saw several people go inside a few days ago to do something. Since, it has been empty again - no one seems to know when it will open.

[karenzeee]

Kind of disappointed Unit 84 isn’t some sort of UFO location.
Too funny! That was what I was hoping for too! :jester:

[kambruce]

Thank you. This was very helpful. I am evaluating whether to move to FL from NV.

[NoMo50]

Don, the most surprising thing in your video is the small golf practice area at the new Middleton high school.

It looks like a putting green and two sand traps to practice bunker shots. I have seen a lot of people 'skull' practice sand shots and send the ball flying over the green and endangering other people. It must have been a non-golfer who designed that practice area.

It is my understanding those practice facilities are for the high school golf team, along with indoor practice bays with shot trackers. My guess is the high school will be producing some high caliber golfers in the years to come.

[Chi-Town]

Really enjoyed the video. And the Unit 84 piece at the end was quite interesting. I wondered about the lack of premier homes south of 44 when there were premier villages and neighborhoods and even a smattering in the family sections to the north.

They will probably sell out quickly.

[BlueStarAirlines]

Great post Don! The last few homes in Deluna that were able to "Premier" their homes got in right before the rule change. I've been in a few of them and they truly are amazing.

With the tax rates that Unit 84 is located in, its definitely a bigger lift than most would want to manage.

[airstreamingypsy]

An observation. Driving around the villas, in the video, I couldn't help notice that at least 99% had only rocks and no grass in front of them.

[maistocars]

Great info Don! You wouldn't think people would be willing to pay $1M+ for a house so far away from everything and in higher tax Lake County, but the Developer knows its customers.

[Indydealmaker]

Thank you ,Don!

[Freehiker]

These are great informative videos - I drive by the new 7-11 everyday on my golf cart - I actually saw several people go inside a few days ago to do something. Since, it has been empty again - no one seems to know when it will open.

One of the tenants in the center behind 7-11 told us it’s a permitting issue and they haven’t been able to secure the permits needed to occupy / open.

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[Goldwingnut]

An observation. Driving around the villas, in the video, I couldn't help notice that at least 99% had only rocks and no grass in front of them.

I was wondering how long it would be before someone made a comment like this. Each community has its own specific rules. Generally, Courtyard Villas can have rock yards instead of grass. In my CYV neighborhood nearly half have rock yards, 3 were built that way and the reset got ARC approval as it was allowed in our deed restrictions.

In the patio villas, just like the CYVs, they each have their own rules.

If someone files a complaint, so be it, the issue is NOT the person filing the complaint, it is the resident not abiding by the deed restrictions of their community. For those who take the stand of wanting to face the accuser the answer is simple, look in the mirror, you will see the one who failed to live up to their agreement and responsibilities.

[dougawhite]

That's at Bugg Springs.

I love it, another Bugg Springs fan! I grew up in New London, CT, the home of the Naval Underwater Sound Lab. They develop sonar and other underwater military scientific stuff. Bugg Springs is one of their test facilities for sonar devices. It's somewhat unique because it's very deep yet small in surface area. The facility is supposedly still in use. I'd love to know if there are people in the area who worked there and have any interesting stories.

[hviergever]

What and Where is Unit 84? It’s a new section of houses in The Villages that’s unlike anything we’ve seen in several years. I’ve included a quick history of the different home types here in The Villages that I hope you’ll enjoy as I introduce Unit 84.

I’ve also included a tour of the new Franklin Recreation Center in Newell, there’s a new Then-And-Now segment where I take a look at Bradford and Hawkins and how that area has changed. There’s a brief look at Moultrie Creek, Shallow Creek Championship Golf Course, and the VPSD station 84 location. There’s a look at Middleton and Eastport, as well as 7-11 and CVS at Magnolia Plaza. I also looked at the Hacienda Hills area under construction.




Enjoy,
Don
https://youtu.be/Lged4Bh0s60

Is it time to change the avatar, Don. Congratulations to the family.

[Goldwingnut]

I love it, another Bugg Springs fan! I grew up in New London, CT, the home of the Naval Underwater Sound Lab. They develop sonar and other underwater military scientific stuff. Bugg Springs is one of their test facilities for sonar devices. It's somewhat unique because it's very deep yet small in surface area. The facility is supposedly still in use. I'd love to know if there are people in the area who worked there and have any interesting stories.

I did three tours out of New London on the Webster, Topeka, and the GW Carver. There was lots of submarine history there and a very pleasant climate, but no real desire to go back unless I was going back to sea on a boat, but at my age it's not likely to happen.

[Goldwingnut]

Great info Don! You wouldn't think people would be willing to pay $1M+ for a house so far away from everything and in higher tax Lake County, but the Developer knows its customers.

The taxes are something to consider certainly. Of course the people who have been fortunate enough to create a nest egg sufficient to purchase a $1M+ home are less likely to be overly concerned about a few hundred dollars more in taxes each year.

The location today has some challenges but in a few years when the commercial development kicks in on 470 around the Turnpike, the Dabney, Lake Denham and Newell locations won’t be such a detractor. It will just take a little time.

[VApeople]

in a few years when the commercial development kicks in on 470 around the Turnpike, the Dabney, Lake Denham and Newell locations won’t be such a detractor.

From my experience travelling, the kind of "commercial development" that is built near turnpike exits is not where I want to live.

[Stu from NYC]

From my experience travelling, the kind of "commercial development" that is built near turnpike exits is not where I want to live.

Never understood why people would be willing to buy a house so closes to a major thoroughfare.

[Altavia]

Never understood why people would be willing to buy a house so closes to a major thoroughfare.

Millions of people buying homes along the Turnpike, I95 and I75 throughout Florida obviously don't care...

[Goldwingnut]

Millions of people buying homes along the Turnpike, I95 and I75 throughout Florida obviously don't care...

It wouldn't be my choice, but some don't care.

This always reminds me of the movie My Cousin Vinney where he finally gets some peaceful rest when he was thrown in the county jail for contempt of court, the din of the jail's noise obviously was akin to what he was used to in NYC.

[Altavia]

It wouldn't be my choice, but some don't care.

This always reminds me of the movie My Cousin Vinney where he finally gets some peaceful rest when he was thrown in the county jail for contempt of court, the din of the jail's noise obviously was akin to what he was used to in NYC.

LOL...

Not my choice either but others can't stop beating The Villages dead horses:

Looks like construction along the Turnpike will soon be drawing to a close for the foreseeable future.

Commercial development in Middleton will be interesting to watch. Seems likely there could be some interesting new options, catered more to the younger/family demographic, coming to their commercial area.

[Starpilot]

Don, I have an interest in area 84 and was wondering if you could speculate on how it will be connected golf cart wise?

- Lou

[Goldwingnut]

Don, I have an interest in area 84 and was wondering if you could speculate on how it will be connected golf cart wise?

- Lou

There is a 2 lane road running n/s from Chandler Drive to Unit 44 that both cars and carts will take into the area. Basically, a residential street so it will be no different than any other residential street here in The Villages. Traffic will not be either an issue or a major concern as there is only 121 lots in Unit 84, this is about twice the size of a regular villa community or about 2/3 the size of one of the larger villa communities (Antrum Dells, Alden Bungalows, etc.) all of which only have one road entering and exiting.

[Altavia]

Is there any commercial space along 470 planned for that end?

Something popped up on the Villages App map?

[Goldwingnut]

Is there any commercial space along 470 planned for that end?

Something popped up on the Villages App map?

That's the postal station for Unit 84.

Commercial property planned for the south side of 470 on the 550 acres purchased last year.

[Altavia]

Small Postal Station?

[Goldwingnut]

Small Postal Station?

Yes, it is for unit 84, it’s to serve only 121 homes.

[Starpilot]

Thank you Don. You're such a great source of information. Very much appreciated.

[Rainger99]

I just checked the bond for Unit 84. It is $72,080.45.

If you pay it off over 30 years, you will pay $157,738.72!!!

[Stu from NYC]

I just checked the bond for Unit 84. It is $72,080.45.

If you pay it off over 30 years, you will pay $157,738.72!!!

Wow rather pricey

[Goldwingnut]

I just checked the bond for Unit 84. It is $72,080.45.

If you pay it off over 30 years, you will pay $157,738.72!!!

Yes, the bond is higher than seen before, the cost of everything goes up over time. They haven’t had lots this larger in over 5 years (Conservation trail area), so many have never seen a high end home’s bond. Do some math and you’ll find that the bond rate per acre throughout The Villages has tracked pretty close with inflation. Trying to compare the bond for a home in CDD5 with the bond for a home in CDD14 must take into account the cost increases for 18 years, there are some differences in cost also based on the land’s characteristics that must be taken into account, when all factors are taken into account the adjusted bonds are of similar values.

As far as the 30 year cost goes, the people buying the homes in 84 will likely be paying 7 figures for their homes and have sufficient means to afford it, but will more than likely will just pay it off, just as most of the homes will probably not have a mortgage on them.

Most don’t realize that the bond is just a part of the cost of the home that will always have to be paid, either rolled into the cost of the home like most developments do or as a separate cost like done here.

[Altavia]

I just checked the bond for Unit 84. It is $72,080.45.

If you pay it off over 30 years, you will pay $157,738.72!!!

The value of the homes in that area will appreciate (far) more than the cost the bond the first year.

[Rainger99]

You say that Unit 84 will be premier homes. According to the VCDD website, there are no premier homes in District 14.

District 14 was established July 26, 2021

Amended District
September 13, 2021
Total Acres - 2585.20

4,490 - Standard Home Sites
2,967 - Villa Home Sites
0 - Premier Home Sites
7,457 Total Home Sites

VCDD District FAQs (https://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/faq.aspx?district=14)

[Goldwingnut]

You say that Unit 84 will be premiere homes. According to the VCDD website, there are no premiere homes in District 14.

District 14 was established July 26, 2021

Amended District
September 13, 2021
Total Acres - 2585.20

4,490 - Standard Home Sites
2,967 - Villa Home Sites
0 - Premier Home Sites
7,457 Total Home Sites

VCDD District FAQs (https://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/faq.aspx?district=14)

The district only provides what they are told. I go by what documentation and plans show, I say these will be premier homes. We’ll find out soon enough if I’m right or I’m wrong.

[Bogie Shooter]

No gotcha there……:laugh:

[Rainger99]

The district only provides what they are told. I go by what documentation and plans show, I say these will be premier homes. We’ll find out soon enough if I’m right or I’m wrong.

I would think they would have to tell the district the truth of what they are building. Can they tell the district that they are building a two story building and then build a 5 story building?

PS. I hope they are premier homes! Would hate to pay a $72,000 bond for a designer home!

[Goldwingnut]

I would think they would have to tell the district the truth of what they are building. Can they tell the district that they are building a two story building and then build a 5 story building?

PS. I hope they are premier homes! Would hate to pay a $72,000 bond for a designer home!

Marketing, it’s all about marketing, the same thing happened in districts 10 & 11. It’s just a homesite until marketing department says it’s something else.

[Stu from NYC]

The value of the homes in that area will appreciate (far) more than the cost the bond the first year.

Time will tell, the economy and interest rates will have an impact.

[frayedends]

Unless I missed someone posting this, the street names and lots are on the map now... (and apparently I don't know how to post pics on this board) but if you look up the map village of Dabney and scroll in you can see it.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/?new&preowned&homesites&status&map&lng=-81.91188620228425&lat=28.75858315509447&lvl=7)

https://i.imgur.com/Ye9a7jN.png?1

[Altavia]

Thirty two lots sold the first day, some over $250K …

...

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Live and play near Sawgrass Grove and just a golf car ride from Mickylee Pitch & Putt and the amenities at Franklin Recreation and Jubilee Putting Course.

From lush natural Florida landscape & preserves to open water views - Unit 84 in The Village of Dabney has an array of premier & designer homesites to choose from.

Personalize Your Dream Home in Unit 84 allows you to choose from the variety of premier & designer homesites available, select one of our most popular floorplans & interior finishes such as cabinetry, countertops and flooring.... And if your homesite allows, you can even choose to expand your home from a selection of our most popular structural enhancements, such as an expanded garage or lanai.

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There's a gate at the entry, wonder if this will be for residents only?

[frayedends]

They should pay wingnut a commission

[Rainger99]

I say these will be premier homes. We’ll find out soon enough if I’m right or I’m wrong.

You are right!


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[Goldwingnut]

They should pay wingnut a commission

NO THANK YOU! I’ve never received a dime from the Villages for my work and don’t plan on it in the future. As soon as I work for them I lose credibility for being objective. All I did was bring the information to the people based on what I was able to find by digging in public documents. Did I burst their bubble by beating them to the announcement? Probably so, welcome to the 21st century Villages.

I love where I live and hate misinformation, this is what drives my videos.

[Goldwingnut]

You are right!


The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/whatsnew/neighborhoods/the-enclave-at-dabney-in-the-sawgrass-grove-area)

You doubted me? Oh ye of little faith…

[frayedends]

NO THANK YOU! I’ve never received a dime from the Villages for my work and don’t plan on it in the future. As soon as I work for them I lose credibility for being objective. All I did was bring the information to the people based on what I was able to find by digging in public documents. Did I burst their bubble by beating them to the announcement? Probably so, welcome to the 21st century Villages.

I love where I live and hate misinformation, this is what drives my videos.

LOL. I was being funny because your videos likely got these lots sold. In any case one of your vids went right over the Lake Denham housr I just bought. Thanks for your hard work and videos. They’ve been very helpful.

[Goldwingnut]

LOL. I was being funny because your videos likely got these lots sold. In any case one of your vids went right over the Lake Denham housr I just bought. Thanks for your hard work and videos. They’ve been very helpful.

Thanks, you're right though, my videos have helped make a lot of people decide to buy in The Villages. In January of 22 I had a bet, for a beer, that I had helped at least 100 people decide to buy here and asked people to respond either to the video or on social media. In less than 24 hours over 200 people responded yes, and 2 responded they decided not to buy here because of my videos. All were probably the right decisions. Needless to say, I won my beer easily.

I'm not trying to sell houses for the developer, I'm just trying to bring good information to people, there's way too much misinformation out there.
I'm generally a positive person and try to see the best in things, if you're looking for bashing and someone to malign the developer for no valid reason, you'll not find it in my work. What's good is good and bad is bad, I'll just deal with the facts. If someone wants to seek out negativity they can go to that pseudo-news website or the next door site, both seem to traffic in negativity.

To be honest, I do get a little bit (okay, maybe more) of pleasure out of beating the marketing department to the punch.

[Dotneko]

Other than easier access to the turnpike, i dont see the appeal of that area. Not even a lake or pond - just one small one. It couldnt be any further from Villages amenities either. Unless they think the folks putting a couple of million into a home wont want to associate with the great unwashed.
Along side the entrance are some sketchy looking houses. A security system should be the first investment after purchase.

[frayedends]

Thanks, you're right though, my videos have helped make a lot of people decide to buy in The Villages. In January of 22 I had a bet, for a beer, that I had helped at least 100 people decide to buy here and asked people to respond either to the video or on social media. In less than 24 hours over 200 people responded yes, and 2 responded they decided not to buy here because of my videos. All were probably the right decisions. Needless to say, I won my beer easily.

I'm not trying to sell houses for the developer, I'm just trying to bring good information to people, there's way too much misinformation out there.
I'm generally a positive person and try to see the best in things, if you're looking for bashing and someone to malign the developer for no valid reason, you'll not find it in my work. What's good is good and bad is bad, I'll just deal with the facts. If someone wants to seek out negativity they can go to that pseudo-news website or the next door site, both seem to traffic in negativity.

To be honest, I do get a little bit (okay, maybe more) of pleasure out of beating the marketing department to the punch.

When we were down there a few weeks ago buying a house we rode the cart by sawgrass grove a few times. I kept telling the wife, “we should just park here on these new plants next to Megisson. Why bother riding around to the lot.” Lol.

Anyhow, love the videos and while I won’t be a permanent resident for a few years, I’ll certainly buy you a beer or 3 when we visit.

[frayedends]

Other than easier access to the turnpike, i dont see the appeal of that area. Not even a lake or pond - just one small one. It couldnt be any further from Villages amenities either. Unless they think the folks putting a couple of million into a home wont want to associate with the great unwashed.
Along side the entrance are some sketchy looking houses. A security system should be the first investment after purchase.

Privacy, preserve sites, large lots. Once Eastport is done they (and us in lake Denham and dabney) will have lots of cool stuff nearby. Plus we can visit uncle Gino in the prison.

[Goldwingnut]

Privacy, preserve sites, large lots. Once Eastport is done they (and us in lake Denham and dabney) will have lots of cool stuff nearby. Plus we can visit uncle Gino in the prison.

Just remember, the prison is not golf cart accessible.

[Goldwingnut]

When we were down there a few weeks ago buying a house we rode the cart by sawgrass grove a few times. I kept telling the wife, “we should just park here on these new plants next to Megisson. Why bother riding around to the lot.” Lol.

Anyhow, love the videos and while I won’t be a permanent resident for a few years, I’ll certainly buy you a beer or 3 when we visit.

Thanks, and I’m going to hold you to those beers.

[Altavia]

Looks like there's is a gate at the entrance, wondering if the streets will be private?

[Goldwingnut]

Looks like there's is a gate at the entrance, wondering if the streets will be private?

Nope, not private, because of the wetlands area, the road leading into it is a public street and access to it can't be obstructed. There are actually 3 gates at that entry to Dabney retarding access to The Villages homes/areas.

[Altavia]

Nope, not private, because of the wetlands area, the road leading into it is a public street and access to it can't be obstructed. There are actually 3 gates at that entry to Dabney retarding access to The Villages homes/areas.

Interesting, thanks!

[mntlblok]

You are right!


The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/whatsnew/neighborhoods/the-enclave-at-dabney-in-the-sawgrass-grove-area)

Cool! Brand new video. Went to YouTube and it says Aug 31.

[mntlblok]

Thanks, you're right though, my videos have helped make a lot of people decide to buy in The Villages. In January of 22 I had a bet, for a beer, that I had helped at least 100 people decide to buy here and asked people to respond either to the video or on social media. In less than 24 hours over 200 people responded yes, and 2 responded they decided not to buy here because of my videos. All were probably the right decisions. Needless to say, I won my beer easily.

I'm not trying to sell houses for the developer, I'm just trying to bring good information to people, there's way too much misinformation out there.
I'm generally a positive person and try to see the best in things, if you're looking for bashing and someone to malign the developer for no valid reason, you'll not find it in my work. What's good is good and bad is bad, I'll just deal with the facts. If someone wants to seek out negativity they can go to that pseudo-news website or the next door site, both seem to traffic in negativity.

To be honest, I do get a little bit (okay, maybe more) of pleasure out of beating the marketing department to the punch.

Have pored through FAQ's, done "searches" in the forums for info, and even sent a PM to whoever runs ToTV, but ain't got no satisfaction to date.

I waste a *lot* of time on various forums (fora?) and am inclined to try to encourage the folks who supply interesting and informative info (ala Goldwingnut) in hopes of getting more of same. Found myself clicking the "thumbs up" icon a *lot*. However, I grew curious about whether those "likes" actually ever "go" anywhere - whether they are "received" in any manner.

I also note that only "some" of the posts have both a "thumbs up" *and* a "plus" icon awaiting clicks - what determines *that*?? I see that when *both* are clicked, I then see who all have, apparently, "thanked" in such manner as I. Also noticed that were I to click *only* the "+" that nothing happened, but then if I were to subsequently click the "thumbs up" icon that the list of "thankers" then showed up.

I also notice the stats next to my moniker, and have now seen how a little info about those can be mined and dug out of my "page" - but. But, as best I can tell, and this is my main question, does clicking only on the "thumbs up" merely send that "like" out into the ether, luminiferous or otherwise, with the like-ee never catching wind of it? TIA

[Altavia]

Nope, not private, because of the wetlands area, the road leading into it is a public street and access to it can't be obstructed. There are actually 3 gates at that entry to Dabney retarding access to The Villages homes/areas.

We took a drive through over the holiday. Very isolated, quiet area. Nice views from the boardering lots. Feels unique to the Villages, seemed like more northern country than Florida.

Small mail station with no neighborhood pool. Do most Premier's have pools?

The connecting road does not appear wide enough for diamond lanes. Is Is a MMP planned to connect to the rest of the world?

The interior lots may take some time to sell. Do Premier's in other area's have kissing lanai's?

The retention ponds are small and do not appear to be connected to the storm water management system? Looks "water view" lots could be more seasonal than others if they dry out during dry season?

[thelegges]

We took a drive through over the holiday. Very isolated, quiet area. Nice views from the boardering lots. Feels unique to the Villages, seemed like more northern country than Florida.

Small mail station with no neighborhood pool. Do most Premier's have pools?

The connecting road does not appear wide enough for diamond lanes. Is Is a MMP planned to connect to the rest of the world?

The interior lots may take some time to sell. Do Premier's in other area's have kissing lanai's?

The retention ponds are small and do not appear to be connected to the storm water management system? Looks "water view" lots could be seasonal if they dry out during dry season?

There is a pool in Newell, but if you drive in Premier neighborhoods not all but maybe 40% have their own pool.

Not really kissing lanai because property is so large you rarely, have any issues. We have almost bought 2 different Premiers, but given the age, and how far north, we choose not to.

Pond is May or may not contain water, so non issue (it’s in the paperwork now)

We we looked the sf, the lots are small compared to older neighborhoods with only Premier homes. The last Premier areas have scaled down lots but 84 seems smaller.

As I pointed out if you want to build a home with all 10’ ceilings and 8’ interior and exterior doors, it now a premiere model. Which with lot could be 1million to build. But Enclave is allowing designers to be build, which is a new concept. So one could build the same model as a 8’ ceiling design for about half. So same footprint just a very different dramatic effect.

It’s not a hard no, but sitting on the fence on 84. Lots will sell, but would like a better definition of how small of a designer one can build. But that might not come until $$ is on the table.

[Randall55]

There is a pool in Newell, but if you drive in Premier neighborhoods not all but maybe 40% have their own pool.

Not really kissing lanai because property is so large you rarely, have any issues. We have almost bought 2 different Premiers, but given the age, and how far north, we choose not to.

Pond is May or may not contain water, so non issue (it’s in the paperwork now)

We we looked the sf, the lots are small compared to older neighborhoods with only Premier homes. The last Premier areas have scaled down lots but 84 seems smaller.

As I pointed out if you want to build a home with all 10’ ceilings and 8’ interior and exterior doors, it now a premiere model. Which with lot could be 1million to build. But Enclave is allowing designers to be build, which is a new concept. So one could build the same model as a 8’ ceiling design for about half. So same footprint just a very different dramatic effect.

It’s not a hard no, but sitting on the fence on 84. Lots will sell, but would like a better definition of how small of a designer one can build. But that might not come until $$ is on the table. Yeah. I get the same "none answers" too. It's kinda frustrating. You would think they would want to be open with a qualified buyer.

[thelegges]

Yeah. I get the same "none answers" too. It's kinda frustrating. You would think they would want to be open with a qualified buyer.

3 VLS have said they have no idea if there will be a SF minimum. I know it brings ugly conversation of are you better to than me?

Not what potential buyers are thinking. If I put a premier house(it the only model with the ceiling and doors) @ 3500sf with a pool, and 3-4 car garage. How many will build a 1500sf designer, because that’s the house they love.

I would hope the $71000 bond will influence the build, but nothing is put in stone. If I could build my same designer (ivy10, warbler) anywhere else I may do that instead of taking a chance on Enclave. I do love the seclusion, feels like your own world, yes it takes awhile to get somewhere, and golf cart use is minimal. But love the area

[Bill14564]

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I also note that only "some" of the posts have both a "thumbs up" *and* a "plus" icon awaiting clicks - what determines *that*?? I see that when *both* are clicked, I then see who all have, apparently, "thanked" in such manner as I. Also noticed that were I to click *only* the "+" that nothing happened, but then if I were to subsequently click the "thumbs up" icon that the list of "thankers" then showed up.

I also notice the stats next to my moniker, and have now seen how a little info about those can be mined and dug out of my "page" - but. But, as best I can tell, and this is my main question, does clicking only on the "thumbs up" merely send that "like" out into the ether, luminiferous or otherwise, with the like-ee never catching wind of it? TIA

Clicking the thumbs-up adds a like to that post that will be logged in three different places:

1. A "+" will be added to the post. You may not see that when you initially click the thumbs-up but if you refresh the page or come back later it will be there. If you click on the "+" you will see all who have "liked" the post, including yourself. If you are one of those listed under the "+" then there will also be a link to remover your "thanks."

2. For each user there is a counter for Total Thanks. This counts the number of times that user (you) have hit the thumbs-up button. This number will be incremented.

3. For each user there is a counter for the number of times your posts have been Thanked by other users. That number will be incremented for the poster who submitted the post that you hit the thumbs-up on.

There are NO notifications sent to either user for any of that. The only way a user would know that his post was Thanked is by looking back at the post to see the "+" or by noticing that his "Thanked by" count has increased. The "Thanking" is not sent to the ether, it is recorded, but it is not announced.