1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows

[Vermilion Villager]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)

[Kenswing]

For starters, anyone who is concerned has 75 years to make up their mind if they want to move. Second, why worry about it? We’ll all be dead by then.

[dewilson58]

FINALLY, the value of Key West property should start going down.

[Vermilion Villager]

For starters, anyone who is concerned has 75 years to make up their mind if they want to move. Second, why worry about it? We’ll all be dead by then.

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

[Taltarzac725]

The Villages will be the new Key West in 2100 and probably have 210, 000 people or more.

[manaboutown]

Tell it to China and Brazil.

[Boffin]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

[Bogie Shooter]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

What if YOU are wrong?

[retiredguy123]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)
I'm confused. Insurance companies don't pay for damage caused by flooding. The Government operates a national flood insurance program for that. So, how does rising ocean water affect insurance companies?

[Taltarzac725]

I read that it is supposed to be getting cold again to fit the 100,000 year cycle around 2300.

[Caymus]

Start buying stock in companies that build Houseboats.

[I'm Popeye!]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

Hang in there!

[Tvflguy]

…key words…. “Study shows”. I’m a skeptic. Who funded the study. Who took part. Is there a hidden incentive. Is the data substantiated.

I could go on but won’t.

The earth changes over the millennium. Of course we should all take better care of it. But we cannot bankrupt OUR country. Especially when so many other countries do nothing but make climate et al worse. No names but China… whoops.

The sky is NOT falling people.

[I'm Popeye!]

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[retiredguy123]

…key words…. “Study shows”. I’m a skeptic. Who funded the study. Who took part. Is there a hidden incentive. Is the data substantiated.

I could go on but won’t.

The earth changes over the millennium. Of course we should all take better care of it. But we cannot bankrupt OUR country. Especially when so many other countries do nothing but make climate et al worse. No names but China… whoops.

The sky is NOT falling people.
I don't have specific answers to your questions, but I'll bet you a dollar that the U.S. taxpayers funded some, if not all, of the study. And, there is definitely an incentive for publishing a study that validates climate change. It ensures that they will get additional money for future studies. There is big money in climate change studies.

[manaboutown]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

Learn to swim!

[Keefelane66]

I'm confused. Insurance companies don't pay for damage caused by flooding. The Government operates a national flood insurance program for that. So, how does rising ocean water affect insurance companies?
Insurance companies provide Mortgage reinsurance, catastrophic collapse. The insurance companies just won’t insure for future possible losses making properties uninsurable.

[Taltarzac725]

We will probably have to go to large domed cities in the Midwest and Colorado-Utah-Nevada area.

Water will still be a problem especially with the intense heat outside the dome.

And they have not worked out the physics yet for large domes. Otherwise Winnipeg would probably have one along with Minneapolis and St. Paul.

[retiredguy123]

Insurance companies provide Mortgage reinsurance, catastrophic collapse. The insurance companies just won’t insure for future possible losses making properties uninsurable.
Still confused. If your house is destroyed by a flood, the insurance company will pay nothing unless you have flood insurance, which is underwritten by the Federal Government.

[dewilson58]

The Villages will be the new Key West in 2100 and probably have 210, 000 people or more.

Hope I can park my boat next to my house.

[Michael 61]

Are these the same studies quoted by Al Gore?

[Blueblaze]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)

If you actually believe all that claptrap, WHY DID YOU MOVE TO FLORIDA?

[Taltarzac725]

Are these the same studies quoted by Al Gore?

No. His science was outdated by the time his book got to print would be my guess.

[Taltarzac725]

If you actually believe all that claptrap, WHY DID YOU MOVE TO FLORIDA?

It will be a few generations before things really get bad. I do think people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and many others are looking into how to address the problems.

[Lottoguy]

You'll be dead but your grandchilder will not.

[ThirdOfFive]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)
(yawn)

[tuccillo]

A lot of people (probably most) get this wrong. Is the planet warming? Yes, because we are in an interglacial period and there has been anthropogenic warming, and we will continue to warm. Nobody, who actually understand the science, debates this. How much anthropogenic warming has there been? Best estimates are about 1C for the global average surface temperature anomaly. You can reference the IPCC AR6 report and subscribe to the AMS JoC. Probably a bit less for the lower tropospheric global temperature anomaly from Roy Spencer and John Christy's satellite-based dataset starting in 1979. How much additional anthropogenic warming will there be? Hard to say and this is an area of continued research. I'll repeat that: nobody really knows. The dire predictions appear to be based on the RCP 8.5 modeling scenario. I suspect that is a bit pessimistic (too high). Again, nobody knows. One of the lower RCP scenarios might be more appropriate. Hard to say, nobody knows. The thing that most people get wrong is the assumption that the Milankovitch cycles are the time scales of concern. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Milankovitch cycles have time scale of tens to hundreds of thousands of years. The current concern is for the next 100 years. I'll repeat that: the concern is for the next 100 years. The real issue is how sensitive is the climate to modest amounts of CO2 induced warming. To be clear, CO2 induced warming, by itself, is not a concern. The real concern is the nonlinear response to the CO2 induced warming. If the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2 induced warming then there is really no dire concern. If the climate has a strong positive feedback to the CO2 induced warming then there is concern. This is an area of research as we really don't know. People can claim they know the answer, particularly people who post on this forum without any domain knowledge, but in reality we don't know.

The following websites are worth visiting, if you actually care about reality.

The first one is from Sabine Hossenfelder. If you aren't going to watch till the end then don't even bother firing it up.

The second link is from Roy Spencer. He works with observational data his perspective is worth listening too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8

GW 101 - Roy Spencer, PhD. (https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/)

Full disclosure: Undergraduate and graduate degrees in meteorology and retired research meteorologist at NASA and the National Weather Service.

…key words…. “Study shows”. I’m a skeptic. Who funded the study. Who took part. Is there a hidden incentive. Is the data substantiated.

I could go on but won’t.

The earth changes over the millennium. Of course we should all take better care of it. But we cannot bankrupt OUR country. Especially when so many other countries do nothing but make climate et al worse. No names but China… whoops.

The sky is NOT falling people.

[Stu from NYC]

I don't have specific answers to your questions, but I'll bet you a dollar that the U.S. taxpayers funded some, if not all, of the study. And, there is definitely an incentive for publishing a study that validates climate change. It ensures that they will get additional money for future studies. There is big money in climate change studies.

Have an idea. Since you are an engineer how about you do a study and we will publish it under my name and share the proceeds.

[retiredguy123]

Have an idea. Since you are an engineer how about you do a study and we will publish it under my name and share the proceeds.
If you can get a Federal grant, I will study anything you want and produce any result you want.

[mntlblok]

A lot of people (probably most) get this wrong. Is the planet warming? Yes, because we are in an interglacial period and there has been anthropogenic warming, and we will continue to warm. Nobody, who actually understand the science, debates this. How much anthropogenic warming has there been? Best estimates are about 1C for the global average surface temperature anomaly. You can reference the IPCC AR6 report and subscribe to the AMS JoC. Probably a bit less for the lower tropospheric global temperature anomaly from Roy Spencer and John Christy's satellite-based dataset starting in 1979. How much additional anthropogenic warming will there be? Hard to say and this is an area of continued research. I'll repeat that: nobody really knows. The dire predictions appear to be based on the RCP 8.5 modeling scenario. I suspect that is a bit pessimistic (too high). Again, nobody knows. One of the lower RCP scenarios might be more appropriate. Hard to say, nobody knows. The thing that most people get wrong is the assumption that the Milankovitch cycles are the time scales of concern. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Milankovitch cycles have time scale of tens to hundreds of thousands of years. The current concern is for the next 100 years. I'll repeat that: the concern is for the next 100 years. The real issue is how sensitive is the climate to modest amounts of CO2 induced warming. It be clear, CO2 induced warming, by itself, is not a concern. The real concern is the nonlinear response to the CO2 induced warming. If the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2 induced warming then there is really no dire concern. If the climate has a strong positive feedback to the CO2 induced warming then there is concern. This is an area of research as we really don't know. People can claim they know the answer, particularly people who post on this forum with out any domain knowledge, but in reality we don't know.

The following websites are worth visiting, if you actually care about reality.

The first one is from Sabine Hossenfelder. If you aren't going to watch till the end then don't even bother firing it up.

The second link is from Roy Spencer. He works with observational data his perspective is worth listening too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8

GW 101 - Roy Spencer, PhD. (https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/)

Full disclosure: Undergraduate and graduate degrees in meteorology and retired research meteorologist at NASA and the National Weather Service.

Thanks. Climate change feedback - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback) Now know a lot more than I did before.

[Taltarzac725]

A lot of people (probably most) get this wrong. Is the planet warming? Yes, because we are in an interglacial period and there has been anthropogenic warming, and we will continue to warm. Nobody, who actually understand the science, debates this. How much anthropogenic warming has there been? Best estimates are about 1C for the global average surface temperature anomaly. You can reference the IPCC AR6 report and subscribe to the AMS JoC. Probably a bit less for the lower tropospheric global temperature anomaly from Roy Spencer and John Christy's satellite-based dataset starting in 1979. How much additional anthropogenic warming will there be? Hard to say and this is an area of continued research. I'll repeat that: nobody really knows. The dire predictions appear to be based on the RCP 8.5 modeling scenario. I suspect that is a bit pessimistic (too high). Again, nobody knows. One of the lower RCP scenarios might be more appropriate. Hard to say, nobody knows. The thing that most people get wrong is the assumption that the Milankovitch cycles are the time scales of concern. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Milankovitch cycles have time scale of tens to hundreds of thousands of years. The current concern is for the next 100 years. I'll repeat that: the concern is for the next 100 years. The real issue is how sensitive is the climate to modest amounts of CO2 induced warming. It be clear, CO2 induced warming, by itself, is not a concern. The real concern is the nonlinear response to the CO2 induced warming. If the climate is relatively insensitive to CO2 induced warming then there is really no dire concern. If the climate has a strong positive feedback to the CO2 induced warming then there is concern. This is an area of research as we really don't know. People can claim they know the answer, particularly people who post on this forum with out any domain knowledge, but in reality we don't know.

The following websites are worth visiting, if you actually care about reality.

The first one is from Sabine Hossenfelder. If you aren't going to watch till the end then don't even bother firing it up.

The second link is from Roy Spencer. He works with observational data his perspective is worth listening too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8

GW 101 - Roy Spencer, PhD. (https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/)

Full disclosure: Undergraduate and graduate degrees in meteorology and retired research meteorologist at NASA and the National Weather Service.


Good to hear from you.

[Gigi3000]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

The rich ones will be on Mars.

[tuccillo]

Climate is very non-linear and our understanding is still limited. It is an area of research. Unfortunately, I don't believe the current climate models are at a point where we should be developing public policy from their results. I don't say this lightly as I was a model developer (short term weather, not longer term climate) for the Government.

Thanks. Climate change feedback - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback) Now know a lot more than I did before.

[tophcfa]

This has me concerned, I’m worried about the golf courses getting flooded: (

[tuccillo]

I'm concerned also. However, that is a weather issue and not a climate issue (or least not a climate issue until long after I am dead). I am actually more concerned about the number of points I have for this week's tee time requests ;-)

This has me concerned, I’m worried about the golf courses getting flooded: (

[golfing eagles]

We will probably have to go to large domed cities in the Midwest and Colorado-Utah-Nevada area.

Water will still be a problem especially with the intense heat outside the dome.

And they have not worked out the physics yet for large domes. Otherwise Winnipeg would probably have one along with Minneapolis and St. Paul.

Also, they will need to figure out how to support the weight of 2 miles of ice over them that will follow. Time course: Ocean levels about 200 feet higher than currently---25,000 years from now---NOT THE YEAR 2300. 2 miles of ice-----about 65,000 years in the future. Just like the previous cycles, the last being ice coverage 25-40,000 years ago and high ocean levels about 85,000 years ago. Oh, yes, maybe the climate change proponents can explain what happened to that ice, and how the planet is much warmer than 20,000 years ago when there's no fossil fuel burning, no SUV's, and no coal burning power plants to blame it on. Lastly, what is the OP smoking and where can I get some?

[golfing eagles]

It will be a few generations before things really get bad. I do think people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk and many others are looking into how to address the problems.

Agree. As long as you define "a few generations" as about 1,000

[Taltarzac725]

https://ekodome.com/the-science-behind/

Maybe an idea about domes.

The big thing about scientific pursuits is if they can be proven true or false. So much of this just seems incapable of being tested as true or false.

Falsifiability - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability)

[Stu from NYC]

If you can get a Federal grant, I will study anything you want and produce any result you want.

It was my idea why do I have to do the legwork?:bigbow:

[golfing eagles]

It was my idea why do I have to do the legwork?:bigbow:

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Florida would probably be a mess because of the threat of sink holes. The domes would sink.

[golfing eagles]

Florida would probably be a mess because of the threat of sink holes. The domes would sink.

Darn. I was hoping for climate controlled golfing under the dome. :mad::mad::mad:

[Taltarzac725]

Darn. I was hoping for climate controlled golfing under the dome. :mad::mad::mad:

Maybe they will come up with something that floats on seas or on air. Going to have an awful lot of hot air to work with then.

[Stu from NYC]

More importantly, do you have plans to put a "dome" over the Village of Stu???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

That would be foolish and a waste of the money others will contribute to be invited into my village.

We have plans to build a pedestal

[Robbb]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

NO I would tell them that hysterical people have been predicting the demise of civilization for eons. For instance let see, there was global cooling, then there was starvation due to overpopulation, then there was toxic shock syndrome, AIDS. MERSA, Alar, then there was meteors, then there was the ozone hole, then there was Covid, etc etc..It seems as though part of the human condition is to find fears of our future existence.

[Djean1981]

Nope! Heard it before - decades ago. Lol

[Byte1]

What would I tell my grandchildren? Hmmm, perhaps I would tell them to stay where they are and visit the beaches at whatever beach available when they wish. Then I would tell them to leave their trees alone until global freezing. Most of them live on land with a lot of trees.
At least there should not be a fear of flooding on Mars, so those that are afraid of extinction can be at piece. Our future generations will be known as Martians. Maybe they can figure out how to pipe some of the excess water to Mars.

[Al2014]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?
Yes!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Start buying stock in companies that build Houseboats.

During hurricane season, everyone should have a small boat moored to the back door

[Stu from NYC]

During hurricane season, everyone should have a small boat moored to the back door

No room in back we keep it in our basement.

[mtdjed]

Would you say that to your grandchildren?

I may have misinterpreted the study you reference, but I believe that it said that the average rise in ocean worldwide has been 6 to 8 inches over the last century but that the rate has doubled since 2006. The alarming statement that sea level is expected to rise a foot by 2030 seems inconsistent. Somehow we have coped with the rise over the past 100 years. Isn't it possible that with new technology we may be able to cope with another foot or so?

I just visited New Smyrna Beach and I see that they are creating more effective sea walls. Not all buildings will be affected at one time. Old structures are replaced by new and they would be constructed to cope with the then existing sea levels and predictions.

Meanwhile, we seem to be safe here in Sumter county. No seashore in sight.

[Stu from NYC]

I may have misinterpreted the study you reference, but I believe that it said that the average rise in ocean worldwide has been 6 to 8 inches over the last century but that the rate has doubled since 2006. The alarming statement that sea level is expected to rise a foot by 2030 seems inconsistent. Somehow we have coped with the rise over the past 100 years. Isn't it possible that with new technology we may be able to cope with another foot or so?

I just visited New Smyrna Beach and I see that they are creating more effective sea walls. Not all buildings will be affected at one time. Old structures are replaced by new and they would be constructed to cope with the then existing sea levels and predictions.

Meanwhile, we seem to be safe here in Sumter county. No seashore in sight.

Will you still say that in say 25 years?:bigbow:

[tuccillo]

Perhaps 12 inches over the next 30 years, depending on where you are. However, a significant amount of the rise is actually the result of the land sinking (subsidence). The projections include the net change. This is both the expected increase in the amount of sea water, the expansion of the water because of increasing temperature, and the land subsidence. The amount of subsidence can vary considerably. As is common is low lying areas in Europe, adaptation will be required.

I may have misinterpreted the study you reference, but I believe that it said that the average rise in ocean worldwide has been 6 to 8 inches over the last century but that the rate has doubled since 2006. The alarming statement that sea level is expected to rise a foot by 2030 seems inconsistent. Somehow we have coped with the rise over the past 100 years. Isn't it possible that with new technology we may be able to cope with another foot or so?

I just visited New Smyrna Beach and I see that they are creating more effective sea walls. Not all buildings will be affected at one time. Old structures are replaced by new and they would be constructed to cope with the then existing sea levels and predictions.

Meanwhile, we seem to be safe here in Sumter county. No seashore in sight.

[mtdjed]

Will you still say that in say 25 years?:bigbow:

May not be able to say anything at that time!

[Stu from NYC]

May not be able to say anything at that time!

Have faith.

[huge-pigeons]

There was this same scare tactic 50 years ago. No different than the hole in the stratosphere and now AOC’s and baby Greta’s scientific knowledge we have about 7 years left to live because of climate change.
The sky isn’t just falling, this propaganda states the sky is already crashing on our heads

[dcammel]

When I was in grade school in 1950’s, we were all warned that Mother Earth would run out of crude oil in 30 years. Also that forests used for lumber would be depleted about the same time. Difficult to accept some of these predictions, but no doubt there will be challenges. President Baron Trump III will be blamed for this crisis!

[AZ SLIM]

It saddens me to think about the early humans working their way down from Alaska for generations following the Woolly Mammoth for survival when Alanghat Goreboot pointed out a study that said the ice is melting, the mammoth will die off and the human race will go extinct. The horror of it all.

But wait! That didn't happen because Gachacaca Hormel said to himself, "I think I will invent SPAM and save the world."...... The rest is history.

[Worldseries27]

the sky is falling, the sky is falling!
you said it

[Sully]

"Acid Rain" will get us first, don't worry. Wait, that existential threat has already been debunked. But global warming is real. Gretta said so!

[threeonemiles@outlook.com]

I don't have specific answers to your questions, but I'll bet you a dollar that the U.S. taxpayers funded some, if not all, of the study. And, there is definitely an incentive for publishing a study that validates climate change. It ensures that they will get additional money for future studies. There is big money in climate change studies.
Climate is always changing. Just an hour ago, the climate "changed" from rain to beautiful sunshine. It'll change again, and again, and again.

[dewilson58]

Climate is always changing. Just an hour ago, the climate "changed" from rain to beautiful sunshine. It'll change again, and again, and again.

By definition, I think you are talking about weather, not climate.

[Worldseries27]

for starters, anyone who is concerned has 75 years to make up their mind if they want to move. Second, why worry about it? We’ll all be dead by then.
what about us reincarnationists?

[Sandy and Ed]

Tell it to China and Brazil.
True.

[tuccillo]

Regarding acid rain, there was this little thing called the Clean Air Act.

"Acid Rain" will get us first, don't worry. Wait, that existential threat has already been debunked. But global warming is real. Gretta said so!

[golfing eagles]

There was this same scare tactic 50 years ago. No different than the hole in the stratosphere and now AOC’s and baby Greta’s scientific knowledge we have about 7 years left to live because of climate change.
The sky isn’t just falling, this propaganda states the sky is already crashing on our heads

And the media rolls on.

This morning, 20 minutes ago, WFTV news headline: "We MAY BE in the hottest heat wave ON RECORD in PARTS of the country"

What does that mean? Probably absolutely nothing. Regional variations happen all the time, and "the record" only goes back 150 years or so. A better metric is global temperature, which is now claimed to be "a record". However, the methodology was changed in 1979 (anyone want to guess why?), so "the record" only goes back 44 years. Not even a blip in a 4.5 million year climate cycle.

What do they want you to think it means: Chicken Little, the sky is falling! Get all aboard on "climate change"! Your grandchildren are going to drown!!! Life on Earth will end soon, unless we spend $100 TRILLION to fight it and you buy an EV. And there are many, many sheeple that buy into this crap. Again, "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it".

[NJRICHARD]

Read the entire article.....

1% chance of this happening!!! 1%, but 100% chance our insurance will go up!!

[Worldseries27]

the rich ones will be on mars.
see post # 59. They are planning to introduce hardy antartica moss to generate oxygen and an atmosphere. Our first terra forming effort

[wmcgowan]

covered a lot in this short paragraph - 77 years from now - I'm not going to worry about it

[golfing eagles]

see post # 59. They are planning to introduce hardy antartica moss to generate oxygen and an atmosphere. Our first terra forming effort

Until we are absolutely sure there is no life of any kind on Mars, doesn't that violate the prime directive of the Federation and Starfleet????? What would Captain Kirk do????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[PersonOfInterest]

In God we trust. He wouldn't let that happen, would he?

[Stu from NYC]

Until we are absolutely sure there is no life of any kind on Mars, doesn't that violate the prime directive of the Federation and Starfleet????? What would Captain Kirk do????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The little green men on mars would fight us to the death.

[cjrjck]

Ever watch a sci fi movie made in the 1970's. 1980's, or 1990's depicting the world around the present time and laugh at how silly they were? Like flying cars and floating cities. My son always asks how we could get it so wrong. Al Gore made similar predictions a few decades ago about the dire situation we would be in right now. At least they have now learned to project just far enough into the future that none of us will live long enough to laugh at their silly predictions if they turn out to be silly.

[waterflower]

Buy a HAARP weather machine and airplane to spray chemtrails, Let the good people control the weather.

[midiwiz]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)

so they moved the date out AGAIN, seriously you really need to validate things you read.

This is absolutely silly, the ice caps "have been melting" for how long? Were you aware the poles are shifting yet again? Were you aware that we are in a cycle that is withing another cycle that is within a much much larger cycle?

If you believe every pile of junk you read from some "acclaimed" scientist, you'll end up needing Bakers act. Florida will not be losing all of that any decade soon.

[Marine1974]

If your estimate is correct, the insurance companies lose 10% of the market based on 10 million residential properties currently in Florida . This will create a housing shortage and homes in other states not effected will increase in value .
Our Country is already bankrupt . The feds are printing money and borrowing trillions a year now like a run away train .
Can’t live within a budget and past the point of no return.

[sloanst]

If this were true then why are the richest people in the world buying as much ocean front property as they can get their hands on?

[Whitley]

FINALLY, the value of Key West property should start going down.

Value of a home in TV will increase as it will become waterfront.

[Whitley]

At least the people whose self worth was wrapped up in c19 protocols have a new topic to invest themselves in.

[GATORBILL66]

I don't think anyone can honestly debate that the glaciers and ice caps are not melting and the sea level is getting higher (well there is ONE person who will). Say what you want..those pictures of the polar ice cap and Glacier National Park don't lie. Florida will be the hardest hit state from this. Geography doesn't lie either. Four days before hurricane Ian changed course and headed south the villages was staring down the barrel of a category four hurricane. The following question… Before we get to 2100 insurance companies WILL act. Will Florida be the first state you cannot get insurance in?

1 million Florida buildings will be overrun by sea-level rise by 2100, study shows (https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-florida-buildings-overrun-091203340.html)

Not to worry, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea will nuke us before 2025 as our military is so weak. Thanks to you know who!

[Whitley]

I am far more concerned about our actions TODAY that could lead us to a nuclear war this year.

[Whitley]

Hope I can park my boat next to my house.

As long as there is no cross on the boat.

[Whitley]

what about us reincarnationists?

Come back as a fish.

[maistocars]

Look at the second thread of today - that should be your answer. Always be careful where you get your facts from.

[ringmic88]

Climate change ideology is just a money laundering scheme for corrupt politicians who are making themselves and their cronies rich from lemmings who believe them.

[Signguy]

Obama is part of the climate hysteria, yet first thing he does when he gets out of office, after cashing the Netflix check is buy a beachfront property. What does he know? Sea levels have been rising 3mm per year for the last 150 years, with no acceleration.

If you're worried about CO2 in the atmosphere, invent a machine the that pulls CO2 out of the air, locks the carbon as a solid, and frees the O2, oh yeah that's called a tree.

Maybe we should be culling the forests, creating fire breaks and not offshoring our beef production to Brazil. Where they are burning rainforest to graze cattle.

Forests burning, are releasing centuries of sequestered CO2.

Drill baby drill and convert diesel trucks to natural gas. Drive the price of oil down to below $60 a barrel, and Putin wouldn't be able afford to run his war machine and release all that carbon. And we could get a handle on inflation. Petrochemicals are the key ingredients in fertilizer, any fabric that is elastic or water repellent and so much more stuff we need and want, that policies to make it cost more are reckless and idiotic.

To the environmental wackadoodles, please sit down, shut out up and stop being stupid you morons.

Irresponsible land management and energy policy are the problems to the answer.

[Dantes]

Heads up the sky is falling