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Michael 61
07-10-2023, 06:04 AM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
dewilson58
07-10-2023, 06:11 AM
Should be an interesting thread.
You will hear..........yes, no, maybe.
Also, we have incurred "a direct hit" a few years ago........not much damage.
Probably wise to do the "supplies side" of the preparation.
Food, water, batteries, gas, medications, etc.
Few Villagers have generations.............not sure if they have used them.
(I have one, but I brought it down from the North)
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
Stu from NYC
07-10-2023, 06:22 AM
Food, water and meds are pretty much all we have.
RICH1
07-10-2023, 06:35 AM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
Flyers999
07-10-2023, 06:47 AM
Fill your bathtub up with water. It's main use would be to flush the toilet, in the event something happens to the water supply.
It wont be wasted; you can always take a bath when its over. Or use it to water your landscape.
Kenswing
07-10-2023, 06:55 AM
Keep an eye out for a Hurricane Expo. They usually have them at the rec centers. Lots of good information.
bruce213
07-10-2023, 07:00 AM
There are several web sites for storm prep. Most will sell or recommend an emergency bag. Or you can see what is in the bag and custom make your own. I have a emergency kit and I breakit out beginning of the season make sure everything is working and charged.
Best advice is if you think one is coming your way "Get out of dodge". Go visit a friend, mini vacation and try to leave before a warning to leave is issued. Roads get super packed.
margaretmattson
07-10-2023, 07:05 AM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
I lived on the coast of Florida for 23 years. If you have a direct hit, there is no amount of planning that will help. Pack your small prized possessions, mementos, and important papers and get the hell out! Do not stay if you are under mandatory evacuation. It is a fool's game! You can not compete with Mother Nature.
The absolute WORST thing that happens if you are not directly hit is your electricity may be out for days and even weeks. Your house is hot as hell, you have no way to keep food, you can't do laundry, keeping a charge on your phone is a chore...etc etc.
I have learned to keep small battery or solar operated lanterns which can also charge your phone. And to make certain my gas tank in vehicle is full. There have been times we needed to sit in it just to get some A/C. When purchasing a vehicle, I buy one that I can easily pack items valuable to me. I have never gone to a shelter. Always drove inland to friends /family home. Make sure you have an evacuation plan! We had a routine set. Take perishible food with you and plan on eating that keeping it on ice for as long as you can. We fill the washer with ice. It was something we learned while watching hurricane prep. And, fill your bathtub with water so you can flush the toilet. No bathtub? Fill large buckets or containers. Also, fill containers that you can use for drinking or cooking.
Many will say we are out of harm"s way here in the Villages. To tell you the truth, it was a primary reason I chose this location. Tired of packing and taking care of the home every hurricane season.
But, NEVER feel 100% safe! Stay off the streets and hunker down during the hurricane! People have died from falling trees, debris, and just the inability to see clearly through the heavy rains.
Once everything has settled, if you live within 100 miles of a city that was destroyed by a hurricane, you will find your grocery stores short on supplies. This is when you will be glad you have an extra supply in your home. The shortage can last for months! Just adjust and buy what is available. Do not be THAT PERSON who hogs the supplies. Then everything must be placed on a limit purchase of one. Annoying for everyone!
I can not completely describe the absolute discomfort of "when the storm had passed.'. PLEASE! Keep supplies in your home for this reason. You will be glad you did!
Rainger99
07-10-2023, 07:11 AM
Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent?
Have any houses in the villages ever put up sandbags to prepare for a hurricane?
If so, where you get the bags and the sand!
And did it work?
LuvNH
07-10-2023, 07:18 AM
To me, the most frightening part of a hurricane is all the hype before it actually gets to it's destination. Days of weather people telling you where it is going and when, unfortunately it never seems to end up where they say it will. If it goes over TV it really does sound like a freight train.
Yes, get in bread, stuff like peanut butter that does not need cooking or heating, any of the usual every day foods which you would not cook.
If you lose power try to keep the refrigerator and freezer closed to help hold in the cold. Only once in 18 yrs did we lose power for more than a few hours.
margaretmattson
07-10-2023, 07:26 AM
Have any houses in the villages ever put up sandbags to prepare for a hurricane?
If so, where you get the bags and the sand!
And did it work?
When I was living on the coast, sand was made available for free in pick up locations. The information was given on every newscast. We were advised that only homeowners who lived near waters that may rise ( usually rivers where I lived) should take these bags. They keep the water, or at least some of it, from entering your home.
Is there a reason to have sand bags in the Villages? Not sure! I do not live close enough to water to know. I believe at one time some homes in Spanish Springs got flooded. But, again not sure!
Rainger99
07-10-2023, 07:35 AM
Is there a reason to have sand bags in the Villages? Not sure! I do not live close enough to water to know. I believe at one time some homes in Spanish Springs got flooded. But, again not sure!
There a lot of houses close to retention ponds. I know the villages is “designed” to flood the golf courses. But will the design work if we get hit with a major hurricane? Or will the retention ponds flood the houses?
A few months ago Fort Lauderdale was flooded by a storm - not even a hurricane and on today’s news it looks like West Point was badly flooded!!
thelegges
07-10-2023, 07:42 AM
potentially having a hurricane come anywhere near TV, grocery stores become a mob fest.
Worst part is every TV channel will only have hurricane coverage. So one needs a dvd and some movies to pass the time.
LuvNH
07-10-2023, 07:48 AM
There a lot of houses close to retention ponds. I know the villages is “designed” to flood the golf courses. But will the design work if we get hit with a major hurricane? Or will the retention ponds flood the houses?
A few months ago Fort Lauderdale was flooded by a storm - not even a hurricane and on today’s news it looks like West Point was badly flooded!!
The drainage system in TV is excellent and carries much of the torrential rains away. Also, on my road our driveways are sloped towards the road to take water to the drains. My home is on a golf course and we have a long retention type drain behind all our homes. I have watched it fill almost to the top and it has never yet flooded out. However, the ground water in my back yard will take days to dry out.
margaretmattson
07-10-2023, 07:49 AM
To me, the most frightening part of a hurricane is all the hype before it actually gets to it's destination. Days of weather people telling you where it is going and when, unfortunately it never seems to end up where they say it will. If it goes over TV it really does sound like a freight train.
Yes, get in bread, stuff like peanut butter that does not need cooking or heating, any of the usual every day foods which you would not cook.
If you lose power try to keep the refrigerator and freezer closed to help hold in the cold. Only once in 18 yrs did we lose power for more than a few hours.
Completely agree with most of this post but bread gets moldy. Especially, in a hot home that has no electricity for days or weeks. You have to purchase non-perishable goods. Learned this the hard way! Never made that mistake again!
vintageogauge
07-10-2023, 08:00 AM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
I lived and still do in the South end and was here during Irma when there was flooding in the northern villages but no problems down here. TV did a great job designing the retention ponds allowing water to go from one to the other and then to the golf courses. We got a lot of rain from Irma and the retention pond we live on was no where near the top and if it ever get's that high it will go over the end where no one lives and then down the road to the golf courses. No worries down here. On the other hand they were pumping water out of the northern sections for weeks, even some of the golf car tunnels were flooded. Also, you don't need to buy a radio if you have a car. Just gas, food, water and meds. A small generator wouldn't hurt, we have one but have never used it, never lost power down here for more than 30 minutes over the last 6 years however there have been long outages in some of the northern villages.
tophcfa
07-10-2023, 08:38 AM
Play lots of golf before a hurricane hits because the courses might be under water for several days post storm.
margaretmattson
07-10-2023, 08:44 AM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
Please understand this. It is not a North or South end thing. I have been through dozens of hurricanes. Sometimes, only one part of a neighborhood gets damage, some lose electricity, some do not. Sometimes the damage is throughout. Sometimes it is only one or two houses. With Mother Nature, it is never ALL or Nothing! Plan ahead that you may be one of the unfortunate. You will be glad you did! If you are lucky, you will have kind neighbors who have no damage and are willing to share. Another reason to have extra supplies. To help those in need!
pikeselectric
07-10-2023, 08:59 AM
Keep an eye out for a Hurricane Expo. They usually have them at the rec centers. Lots of good information.
HI Kenswing - Curious if you have any idea when this event might be happening? We would love to be at this Expo as a local electrician to provide information on how we can help residents protect their homes on the electrical end. I am emailing The Villages as well to see if they can give me a calendar on these type of events. Thanks a ton - Casandra from Pike's Electric
LuvtheVillages
07-10-2023, 09:01 AM
Everybody take a deep breath.
By the time a hurricane reaches us, here in the middle of the state, it has lost power and is more like a bad thunderstorm.
I have lived in The Villages for 12 years. The worst storm was Irma, which passed nearly overhead. Lots of branches down in the roads. (Quickly cleaned up). Lots of water directed towards the golf courses. Could not play golf for a week or more. (Egad!) No houses were affected by water, except only in the historic section.
Power flickered a few times. Did not go out for long. SECO is very good about preparing for storms. Can't speak about the other power companies.
If your life depends on oxygen or refrigerated meds, perhaps you want a generator. Otherwise, I would not spend the money.
Our houses are stronger and more comfortable than any shelter. Stay in your home.
Good idea to keep food and water on hand. A full gas tank may be helpful. And if you have a power bank for your cell phone, be sure it is fully charged. Haven't needed it yet, but ???
I have heard about filling the bath tub with water for flushing the toilet, and we have done that. Never needed it. All the pipes are underground, but perhaps the pumping stations could suffer a power outage? Hasn't happened yet.
LuvtheVillages
07-10-2023, 09:03 AM
HI Kenswing - Curious if you have any idea when this event might be happening? We would love to be at this Expo as a local electrician to provide information on how we can help residents protect their homes on the electrical end. I am emailing The Villages as well to see if they can give me a calendar on these type of events. Thanks a ton - Casandra from Pike's Electric
The Hurricane Expo was May 6 at the Savanna Center.
Keefelane66
07-10-2023, 09:13 AM
Full tank of fuel in car, full propane container for gas grill,, 2 cases of water, fill tub with water, prior to hurricane I freeze several gallon freezer bags bags to ice in event of possible power loss to protect food (haven’t lost power in 12 years). Protect personal documents in water tight bag. Bug out suitcase with meds. Cash money, batteries, candles, flashlight, portable power bank for phone.
Most gas stations and grocery stores have generators.
Obviously you’ll have a lot of wind and water with hurricanes but also the possibility of tornados within the storm. If your in direct path of the storm you will encounter the eye which is calm , then you’ll encounter the back side of the storm.
margaretmattson
07-10-2023, 09:18 AM
Everybody take a deep breath.
By the time a hurricane reaches us, here in the middle of the state, it has lost power and is more like a bad thunderstorm.
I have lived in The Villages for 12 years. The worst storm was Irma, which passed nearly overhead. Lots of branches down in the roads. (Quickly cleaned up). Lots of water directed towards the golf courses. Could not play golf for a week or more. (Egad!) No houses were affected by water, except only in the historic section.
Power flickered a few times. Did not go out for long. SECO is very good about preparing for storms. Can't speak about the other power companies.
If your life depends on oxygen or refrigerated meds, perhaps you want a generator. Otherwise, I would not spend the money.
Our houses are stronger and more comfortable than any shelter. Stay in your home.
Good idea to keep food and water on hand. A full gas tank may be helpful. And if you have a power bank for your cell phone, be sure it is fully charged. Haven't needed it yet, but ???
I have heard about filling the bath tub with water for flushing the toilet, and we have done that. Never needed it. All the pipes are underground, but perhaps the pumping stations could suffer a power outage? Hasn't happened yet.
Good advice to remain calm. Every city has emergency preparations and will be out to help as soon as they can. But, there are times when they can not reach you for quite some time because trees and debris are blocking the streets or another area is in more need. Also, it does not matter if your utilities are underground. The electrical grid can go haywire and the sewage can be blocked up. I have lived through this. There is a saying about those who ignore the simple act of planning and preparing, they are always the ones who suffer the most. Do not panic! Be prepared! Again, I can not fully describe the absolute discomfort of "after the storm.". It is not location that has saved the Villages with prior hurricanes, it is pure luck! Mother Nature is not selective!
NotGolfer
07-10-2023, 09:53 AM
There will be A LOT of coverage on the MSM. We're from the midwest where tornados happen---they can here too. When Irma hit, it did go almost overhead (unexpected, I think). We stayed put. We did clear out the master closet floor and put our sofa-bed mattress in there. Wouldn't have to and saved a night of very uncomfortable "sleeping". We did invest in an inflatable mattress after that's never been out of the box. It "might" come in handy one day---if not someone else will benefit from it, maybe. As another OP mentioned that living here, hurricanes effects are more like a serious thunderstorm. The "historical" side did flood and were without electricity for sometime. BUT their infa-structure is above ground and I think since it was developed our "powers that be" have taken excellent steps for safety etc. IF you listen to the weather "news" non-stop then it will fuel fear. Having simple safety steps in place is good as a "just in case" but don't compare to the coasts what happens!!
As an aside....a lot of the "weather tends to go around us here. Marion Cnty to the north seems to get hit quite a bit.
tophcfa
07-10-2023, 10:24 AM
Keep plenty of gas, propane, water, beer, and roofing patch material on hand and things will be fine.
Kenswing
07-10-2023, 10:32 AM
HI Kenswing - Curious if you have any idea when this event might be happening? We would love to be at this Expo as a local electrician to provide information on how we can help residents protect their homes on the electrical end. I am emailing The Villages as well to see if they can give me a calendar on these type of events. Thanks a ton - Casandra from Pike's Electric
Looks like there was one on May 5th at the Savanna Center. Not sure if there will be others.
Toymeister
07-10-2023, 11:00 AM
I lived through an emergency where there was no power for ten days in a 75 mile radius. Here is my take:
If you are reasonably comfortable you'll do fine. Comfort includes fan or AC, fridge, internet and television.
I did it during the emergency with a generator. I observed my neighbors who quickly found that gasoline or propane is used by large generators quickly and fuel is hard to obtain. No rational person thinks the propane company is promptly coming by to fill your underground tank before it's empty during an emergency.
The whole home generators powered by buried PROPANE tanks will be empty within four days. Every gas can within a hundred miles will be gone as well as extension cords. Water, in the meantime will always be available.
So what to do? Buy a small efficient inverter generator less than 2500 watts. Two five gallon gas cans and a full golf cart will provide 7 1/2 days of power (1000 watt Genset) 24/7 or 15 days at 12 hours a day. 1000 watts powers your fridge, internet, TV, some lights and fans. Yes, that's right all of that with a thousand watts, I know as I've done it.
A 2500 watt Genset will power all that and a small window AC unit. Yes, you'll have extension cords everywhere but so what. You'll be comfortable at less than $1,000
Any specific questions? I'll be happy to elaborate.
Velvet
07-10-2023, 03:02 PM
From past hurricanes in TV I noticed that services like groceries, flooded out roads etc may cause a problem up to a week after the big event has passed. So I have a mobile generator and fill up two 5L tanks with gasoline. Get gas in advance as it is harder to get the closer the hurricane. Generator tent to keep it dry and hurricane lamp if generator needs to be set up in the dark in hurricane winds.The bigger the generator the louder it is you and neighbors can’t sleep through it - so get the least powerful one but one strong enough for what you absolutely need. Long proper outdoor extension cord with multiple outlets, cost over $100 to bring power to the house. Incase more gasoline is needed, the car tank and cart tank can subsidize - have a pump to suck out the gas. Then drinking water for a week for 2 people. Paper supplies. Dry goods, eg carton milk which does not need refrigeration etc. Canned tuna or meat. I have an emergency alert radio with batteries. Flashlight with lots of batteries. Camp fire lighter. My husband did a dry run to see what was needed. I eat the canned food once a year and replace with new. I like the idea of filling bath tub to flush if needed but I use mine every day. Think of hand wipes, plates, cups as if you were going camping where there is no water. Have at least $400 cash, ATMs may not work.
We have NEVER needed any of this stuff. But it’s like property insurance - peace of mind. Then there is a bit of extra preparation needed for a tornado. But you didn’t ask about that.
Pondboy
07-10-2023, 04:07 PM
Definitely prepare, we do. Water, canned goods, everything that they recommend. You never know what’s going to happen. I’d get a battery operated radio. No need for sand bags. The Villages has a good design to let the golf courses flood first.
Every June I start adding to my “Hurricane Prep Food / Water” supply. Slowly but surely, a little bit very time I go to the grocery store. Don’t wait until a few days before to stock up, the shelves will be empty. We use the HVAC closet in the garage as a place to stockpile this stuff. It keeps things cool and out of the way.
Come November when the hurricane season is over, we just use up what we stockpiled. No big deal. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Don’t rely solely on the govt to help you out in a disaster, they will have their hands full with those who did not prepare. Dont stress out, just plan ahead.
kcrazorbackfan
07-10-2023, 04:44 PM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
And why should one be glad they don’t live on the south end?!?!
Nana2Teddy
07-10-2023, 04:54 PM
Keep an eye out for a Hurricane Expo. They usually have them at the rec centers. Lots of good information.
We attended one in May at Savannah Center. It was very informative.
Nana2Teddy
07-10-2023, 04:57 PM
There are several web sites for storm prep. Most will sell or recommend an emergency bag. Or you can see what is in the bag and custom make your own. I have a emergency kit and I breakit out beginning of the season make sure everything is working and charged.
Best advice is if you think one is coming your way "Get out of dodge". Go visit a friend, mini vacation and try to leave before a warning to leave is issued. Roads get super packed.
Why leave? You’re just contributing to the packed roads when you’re perfectly safe staying home here in TV. Many coastal residents evacuate to central FL.
rjm1cc
07-10-2023, 06:11 PM
If not mentioned above cash in small bills.
Keep gas in your car as it may not be available for a day or two.
Your big risk is a tree falls on the power lines to your home and it takes several days to repair.
The risk of problems are minimal but I have been without electricity for 5 or 6 days in the past. If you need electricity then think about a generator.
midiwiz
07-11-2023, 05:10 AM
Should be an interesting thread.
You will hear..........yes, no, maybe.
Also, we have incurred "a direct hit" a few years ago........not much damage.
Probably wise to do the "supplies side" of the preparation.
Food, water, batteries, gas, medications, etc.
Few Villagers have generations.............not sure if they have used them.
(I have one, but I brought it down from the North)
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
yes please all y'all run out today and empty walmart and publix of every bottle of water ever possible please please please.
Pondboy
07-11-2023, 05:43 AM
So Hurricane Hugo landed in Myrtle Beach, SC …..ventured inland 170 miles and hit Charlotte,NC with 100 MPH winds.
Don’t think being inland will save you
margaretmattson
07-11-2023, 05:59 AM
So Hurricane Hugo landed in Myrtle Beach, SC …..ventured inland 170 miles and hit Charlotte,NC with 100 MPH winds.
Don’t think being inland will save you
The same thing happened here in Florida. A hurricane ripped through Tampa Bay but there was more extensive damage in Orlando. Unfortunately, many people evacuated from Tampa to Orlando only to find themselves in a worse spot.
Never feel 100% safe. Mother Nature is not predictable.
crash
07-11-2023, 06:02 AM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
I am from California also and my number one recommendation is by a back pack water filter will prevent you from scrambling for drinking water. They can produce 200 gallons of clean drinking water from a dirty source say a pond. If you don’t like filtered pond water fill your bath tub but we are basically drinking filtered pond water now with the ground acting as the filter as it makes its way to the aquifer.
westernrider75
07-11-2023, 06:51 AM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
Just curious about the south end comment?
Sully2023
07-11-2023, 07:02 AM
A few years ago, I attended a 4th of July bbq at a friends house. A hurricane was coming toward Florida. It was my first hurricane prep. I was storing food and water. I asked if others were preparing? They looked at me and said “ what hurricane?” We get wind and rain in the villages and trees lose limbs. Some lived here several years and said they never lost power. The people from the coast come here when hurricanes come. The Wildwood community Center is a hurricane evacuation facility.
I would get basic supplies- I still have water from that last prep.
I saw pictures from a previous storm that torn off roofs in the villages. Who can say - do what makes you feel safe and comfortable.
wawriwwawriw
07-11-2023, 07:10 AM
Find out hoe high your house is above see level. No need to sandbag if you are over 35 - 40 ft ASL or you are very close to a body of water I.e, lake, pond, creek, river. Do have you emergency kit readily available. If you have pets, find out we’re is the nearest shelter that accepts pets and under what condition ( county registration, vaccination, amount of food, water, cage etc.)
PersonOfInterest
07-11-2023, 07:11 AM
Put gas in your Car and go buy Toilet Paper!
Donnarae93
07-11-2023, 07:19 AM
A gas (CNG) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the South end!
Why should the South end be more worried??
Marmaduke
07-11-2023, 07:58 AM
I lived and still do in the South end and was here during Irma when there was flooding in the northern villages but no problems down here. TV did a great job designing the retention ponds allowing water to go from one to the other and then to the golf courses. We got a lot of rain from Irma and the retention pond we live on was no where near the top and if it ever get's that high it will go over the end where no one lives and then down the road to the golf courses. No worries down here. On the other hand they were pumping water out of the northern sections for weeks, even some of the golf car tunnels were flooded. Also, you don't need to buy a radio if you have a car. Just gas, food, water and meds. A small generator wouldn't hurt, we have one but have never used it, never lost power down here for more than 30 minutes over the last 6 years however there have been long outages in some of the northern villages.
I would agree with you, but a small radio absolutely comes in handy. A weather radio is even better.
If you have to go to your car to access the radio, it's an inconvenience, hot and dark in the garage.
We invested in many long life, rechargable lanterns. Excellent decision.
My husband bought a neat gadget for the cars cigarette lighter to charge our cell phones without the motor running.
We lived on the NC coast our entire life, so I must say that ALL of the responses have been V VERY informed and wise.
Most people that we've known do not underestimate the need for preparedness, but many don't want to talk about it, I guess.
We lived through many, many hurricanes that had direct landfall on us, as Cat 1-3, but nothing like Ian, and we pray that we never do.
A lot of folks left the NC coast and went 4 hours inland with Hugo, but that storm skipped right over the coast, with barely a nudge and battered the heck out of Charlotte with downed power lines, trees and flooding.
Many peoples cars were flooded because they were parked in hotel parking lots.
Most 'transplants' don't have family inland and their evacuation plans are the best they can come up with, which include riding out a storm at a hotel/motel.
Good Luck to us all, as we enjoy life, but stay vigilent during hurricane season.
Don't forget long shelf life pkgs. sardines, tuna, salmon. Crackers. Wine.
MidWestIA
07-11-2023, 08:01 AM
I was at Pine Hills for IRMA cat 5 2017 and gathered stats at that time to write what happened. The IRMA NWS wind peak was Leesburg 43 g 69 Spanish Spring 36 g 54 and 10-12 inches of rain – careful of Village – News they have some hyped numbers. It filled almost to the top all the retention ponds and flooded a few of the golf cart tunnels and The Villages overflow is to flood the golf courses some were underwater for 2 weeks. They run the sprinklers by the streets non stop to get the water out of the ponds-lakes.
We did not get roof or house damage (some houses lost a few shingles) but some BIG live oak trees knocked over due to the roots not being deep enough. Did not lose water in the villages & lost Leesburg power 19 hours Seco never lost it. Many areas around us lost both and some did not get power back for 7 days. Everything was closed for a day or two.
A few days before Irma the stores were empty of water, ice, bread, D type batteries but stores had pallets of water a day or so before it hit but no D batteries. Stores always had lots of AA batteries (I bought special lights that take AA after that). Before Irma gas stations ran out every day at some point, sporadic so 1 station had gas or a line 2 blocks long but another would only have a couple cars. (Get full tank & keep it days before it gets to you.) Tuesday night on 4 lane 301 we saw a 1 or 2 mile line at a gas station with 4 police cars with lights letting them take 1 lane and no gas at the end of Wednesday. Wednesday we took our niece to Orlando airport at 330am and the turnpike was a continuous line of cars probably still is today. LINES of cars leaving or returning empty gas stations before and a day or so after – after IRMA some cars sitting in the gas station until whenever they open no gas in the car to go anywhere.
The news HYPED it constantly and scared people (kept saying we'd get 75-95 wind then were saying 115mph gusts). People tried to leave a couple days before in huge lines and we heard many ended up in shelters further north because of no rooms in hotels or no gas to go further but lots of people stayed with someone they knew further inland. People on the coast that will be hit swarm inland and buy up everything a day or so before it hits.
My neighbor is a Florida guy and has been through 15 hurricanes. His advice is don’t watch the news/weather they hype it all and overplay the effects. We were Supposed to have wind 85-90 and our Villages houses are built to a 2004 hurricane standard of a little over 100 but hurricanes spin off tornados from the top right side so that is the real Villages danger.
Limey
07-11-2023, 08:42 AM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
When we first came we had no experience with hurricanes. We did everything suggested, filled bathtub with water, taped up windows & doors, had emergency supply of food, bottled water, filled up car with gas, stored photos & documents in the dishwasher (It's waterproof) & got ready to leave. Checked with neighbors & found they all just stay put & don't do anything. Although we were prepared, we didn't need a thing. Power never went out as it's mostly underground, no flooding & the interstate was at a standstill. Not saying don't do any of this but for us it was unnecessary panic. Now we just make sure we have dry food for a few days, that's all.
Bogie Shooter
07-11-2023, 09:10 AM
Just curious about the south end comment?
It’s called bashing, some take advantage of every opportunity.
rogerk
07-11-2023, 09:25 AM
I haven’t read all the comments but I suggest you get a Weather Alert Radio with battery backup. Your Village Public Safety station will program it with the necessary warnings.
IMHO the biggest potential is not flooding, assuming you live on the west side of 441/27. The biggest potential problem is tree branches. Unless you have an older roof, more than 12-15, you should be okay.
After 22 years in TV, I worry most about tornadoes being created on the edge of the storm. Hence the recommendation for a weather alert radio. After the ground hog day tornado, in 2005?, the VHA championed getter a weather alert transmitter tower installed that covered the area. The VHA paid for it with donations. It was installed and operational within about 6 months. 👍😊
metoo21
07-11-2023, 09:26 AM
In case you want to know how high you are above sea level, here is a topographical map of the villages. Zoom in and find your location.
The Villages topographic map, elevation, terrain (https://en-nz.topographic-map.com/map-43w21h/The-Villages/?popup=28.91502%2C-81.83613¢er=28.84347%2C-81.92162)
Bill14564
07-11-2023, 09:34 AM
In case you want to know how high you are above sea level, here is a topographical map of the villages. Zoom in and find your location.
The Villages topographic map, elevation, terrain (https://en-nz.topographic-map.com/map-43w21h/The-Villages/?popup=28.91502%2C-81.83613¢er=28.84347%2C-81.92162)
My iphone sitting on a table says 80ft which agrees fairly well with 21m from the map.
vintageogauge
07-11-2023, 10:08 AM
There are a lot of people that have been bashing the new southern villages since they were started in early 2017. Some of them persist mostly out of jealousy. It's great down here, more relaxing atmosphere than up north and they sell 10 to 11 new homes every day south of 44. Pay no attention to them, I'm actually shocked that they would bring jealousy into a serious post such as this. You'll most likely see a few bashing replies to this LOL.
Karmanng
07-11-2023, 10:45 AM
a gas (cng) stove , candles, and be glad you don’t live on the south end!
why?
mraines
07-11-2023, 11:27 AM
When I was living on the coast, sand was made available for free in pick up locations. The information was given on every newscast. We were advised that only homeowners who lived near waters that may rise ( usually rivers where I lived) should take these bags. They keep the water, or at least some of it, from entering your home.
Is there a reason to have sand bags in the Villages? Not sure! I do not live close enough to water to know. I believe at one time some homes in Spanish Springs got flooded. But, again not sure!
It was during Irma about 5 years ago. It flooded near the golf cart bridge. I don't think anyone had sandbags and don't know if they would have helped.
Definitely need food that does not need refrigeration or cooking, I use battery operated candles. Some solar lights may help and a battery operated radio or weather radio.
margaretmattson
07-11-2023, 12:33 PM
There are a lot of people that have been bashing the new southern villages since they were started in early 2017. Some of them persist mostly out of jealousy. It's great down here, more relaxing atmosphere than up north and they sell 10 to 11 new homes every day south of 44. Pay no attention to them, I'm actually shocked that they would bring jealousy into a serious post such as this. You'll most likely see a few bashing replies to this LOL.
I am not certain jealousy is the issue. I hope you can understand those who have lived in the Villages for quite sometime are "in the know" about things a newbie will not understand. Experience is a great teacher. The person who posted that remark is probably rolling his eyes at you, as well. Perhaps, he truly knows something about the south location you do not!
Be careful when you cast aside anyone on this forum. The man you make fun of today may be the only one who has the correct answers for you tomorrow. And, remember, even though we live in the same metro, our circumstances are much different. I, for one, am not jealous of the newbies, their homes, or their area. Get angry if you want but all I see is more of "the exact same" at a much, much, higher cost.
I get it! It's not always about money! So, we don't need to argue this one out. Time changes everything and there is nothing we can do about it. Just saying, we each have different perspectives. To understand one another, we have to accept our circumstances are different.
vintageogauge
07-11-2023, 01:40 PM
I am not certain jealousy is the issue. I hope you can understand those who have lived in the Villages for quite sometime are "in the know" about things a newbie will not understand. Experience is a great teacher. The person who posted that remark is probably rolling his eyes at you, as well. Perhaps, he truly knows something about the south location you do not!
Be careful when you cast aside anyone on this forum. The man you make fun of today may be the only one who has the correct answers for you tomorrow. And, remember, even though we live in the same metro, our circumstances are much different. I, for one, am not jealous of the newbies, their homes, or their area. Get angry if you want but all I see is more of "the exact same" at a much, much, higher cost.
I get it! It's not always about money! So, we don't need to argue this one out. Time changes everything and there is nothing we can do about it. Just saying, we each have different perspectives. To understand one another, we have to accept our circumstances are different.
If you want to know about the south you ask someone who lives here. Fenney was started over 6 years ago and I have been here since the beginning, have seen it all and lived it all. There is no reason for anyone to continue bashing the south and they really should take a look in some of their own back yards if they want to find something to bash.
Bogie Shooter
07-11-2023, 01:42 PM
Nah , they are just bashing. It’s the same old song.
pikeselectric
07-11-2023, 01:50 PM
Looks like there was one on May 5th at the Savanna Center. Not sure if there will be others.
Thank you!! So it seems annually in May - The rec. centers hold Hurricane Preparedness Expos and we unfortunately missed it this year. In 2024 we will be present to talk and meet with everyone! Excited for this. We are always available via call (352) 748-6251 or email to our office (pikesservice@pikeselectric.com) in the meantime. We offer whole home surge protection and portable generator set ups/interlock/outlets for preparations for Storm Season. In Florida - Storm Season for us seems to be any day even outside of hurricane season, with these fast-moving PM random thunderstorms! LOL Stay safe out there! - Casandra with Pike's Electric
margaretmattson
07-11-2023, 01:55 PM
If you want to know about the south you ask someone who lives here. Fenney was started over 6 years ago and I have been here since the beginning, have seen it all and lived it all. There is no reason for anyone to continue bashing the south and they really should take a look in some of their own back yards if they want to find something to bash.
Sorry, you feel people are bashing you. I think Fenney is one of the most beautiful Villages. Love all the trees and the entrance is gorgeous! Love your home and enjoy! It's not a competition but a choice. People may love your choice or feel theirs is better. It doesn't matter! At the end of the day, all that matters is that you are happy.
HJBeck
07-11-2023, 02:02 PM
Never heard of that, but guess if you live in an area that is less then 50 feet above sea level, it may be a reasonable question to ask. Our location is ~140 feet above sea level, thus the real concern would be groceries, meds and electric. Even these don't cut it if the electric is out and you can't get water because the pumping stations are down.
Lea N
07-11-2023, 05:40 PM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
I've read some, not all responses so forgive me if this is a duplicate.
If you have old photos and are staying for a storm put them in a bag, you may want to wrap them up with towels to protect them. Include your name and contact information in the bag. Or, place them in your empty dishwasher or dryer. Same goes if you have a few small sentimental breakable items.
When we lived in SE FL after Hurricane Francis we were without power for 14 long, hot days. We had dogs and a cat. We still had the storm shutters on the windows and sliders after the storm, so all of us slept outside on the lanai. We made a makeshift bed out of the patio furniture cushions. We slept on the lanai with our pets. We were sleeping and it was about 4 am. I heard looters walking in the empty woods next to us, crunching the leaves as they walked and were talking. But it blended in with my dreams. One of our dogs made the most evil sounding guttural noise. Whoever they were stopped in their tracks, stopped talking and never made another peep. She didn't sound like a dog but like a wild animal and the way the noise traveled it was hard to tell where she was.
I was concerned about the heat and our pets being indoors while we were out. I called our vet and he suggested taking a wet towel and putting it on our dog's backs. We had a generator that we were able to use for the fridge and TV. We wet down the towels, put them in the freezer. We had a big cooler and ice. When the towels were cold we put them on our girls. This lasted about 4 hours. We had other towels in the freezer and rotated them.
We had big girls so we used bath towels. If you have smaller dogs, or cats you can use a hand towel or wash cloth. Our dog's left the towels on, our cat didn't tolerate it. Our vet told us that if our dog's became overheated to put their paws in cool (not cold, or freezing) water. This can quickly bring down a dog's body temperature.
This may seem a bit much but my husband even took down the blades of the ceiling fans on the lanai. They could fly off if the storm is bad enough and do a lot of damage.
Keep an eye out for any of your neighbors who may need a helping hand preparing.
Try to keep a full tank of gas during hurricane season. I try not to get to under half a tank.
Villages Kahuna
07-11-2023, 06:28 PM
Forget the basement.
kkingston57
07-11-2023, 06:58 PM
As this is my first summer as a resident here in The Villages, I was wondering what (if anything) people do to prepare for hurricane season here in The Villages. I know we are usually out of harm’s way, but Ian was initially forecasted to track right over The Villages last year, before deviating south. Most people I ask, sorta laugh it off, and don’t really do anything to prepare. I keep canned goods and water on hand as a contingency measure, having lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake of San Francisco in 1989, and the Waldo Canyon fire of Colorado Springs of 2012. I’m thinking I should buy a battery operated radio. Would keeping some empty sandbags or inflatable water barrier protection be prudent? Interested on what some of the “old-timers” who have lived here for years do. Thanks!
TV is still in a safe area and underground power is a definite plus. Sandbags NO. There is good drainage in 99% of TV. Lived in S. Florida all my life. Different story there. Almost all new construction has laminate glass or shutters. No need for a radio. All cars still have radios in them. Not much to do in TV. Storms with 70 MPH winds should not cause structural damage to homes in TV.
Graspher
07-12-2023, 08:01 AM
I lived through an emergency where there was no power for ten days in a 75 mile radius. Here is my take:
If you are reasonably comfortable you'll do fine. Comfort includes fan or AC, fridge, internet and television.
I did it during the emergency with a generator. I observed my neighbors who quickly found that gasoline or propane is used by large generators quickly and fuel is hard to obtain. No rational person thinks the propane company is promptly coming by to fill your underground tank before it's empty during an emergency.
The whole home generators powered by buried PROPANE tanks will be empty within four days. Every gas can within a hundred miles will be gone as well as extension cords. Water, in the meantime will always be available.
So what to do? Buy a small efficient inverter generator less than 2500 watts. Two five gallon gas cans and a full golf cart will provide 7 1/2 days of power (1000 watt Genset) 24/7 or 15 days at 12 hours a day. 1000 watts powers your fridge, internet, TV, some lights and fans. Yes, that's right all of that with a thousand watts, I know as I've done it.
A 2500 watt Genset will power all that and a small window AC unit. Yes, you'll have extension cords everywhere but so what. You'll be comfortable at less than $1,000
Any specific questions? I'll be happy to elaborate.
Nice economical approach - thanks for the outline.
One option not mentioned - If u have a natural gas line coming into ur home you can tap that for “unlimited” generator power.
Toymeister
07-12-2023, 01:50 PM
HuhNice economical approach - thanks for the outline.
One option not mentioned - If u have a natural gas line coming into ur home you can tap that for “unlimited” generator power.
Excellent point. However cost is always a point at 10-15,000.00 for a whole home generators, natural gas powered you may be over prepared in the risk to convenience scale. A hurricane if it impacts you, will probably be a once in a lifetime event.
Either way anyone who has a generator, who addresses fuel supply, will be way ahead of his/her neighbor who bought a case of canned food, a few candles and filled their bathtub with water.
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 02:03 PM
There are several web sites for storm prep. Most will sell or recommend an emergency bag. Or you can see what is in the bag and custom make your own. I have a emergency kit and I breakit out beginning of the season make sure everything is working and charged.
Best advice is if you think one is coming your way "Get out of dodge". Go visit a friend, mini vacation and try to leave before a warning to leave is issued. Roads get super packed.
The Villages is where people evacuate TO. Being locate inland and The Villages water management system (south of 466) we should not have a problem with flooding. Having said that, tornadoes can cause lots of damage such as the tornado that hit the Mallory Square area back in 2007. I didn't live here back then but have heard some horror stories.
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 03:34 PM
I lived and still do in the South end and was here during Irma when there was flooding in the northern villages but no problems down here. TV did a great job designing the retention ponds allowing water to go from one to the other and then to the golf courses. We got a lot of rain from Irma and the retention pond we live on was no where near the top and if it ever get's that high it will go over the end where no one lives and then down the road to the golf courses. No worries down here. On the other hand they were pumping water out of the northern sections for weeks, even some of the golf car tunnels were flooded. Also, you don't need to buy a radio if you have a car. Just gas, food, water and meds. A small generator wouldn't hurt, we have one but have never used it, never lost power down here for more than 30 minutes over the last 6 years however there have been long outages in some of the northern villages.
During Irma, the villages that had flooding problems were north of 466. South of 466 the water management system that was put into place was upgraded from the system that is north of 466. This system, from what I have read about on this site and also watched a presentation by the designer of our water management system, will funnel off an awful lot of storm water. We are very lucky to have such a wonderful water management system in place.
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 03:35 PM
Play lots of golf before a hurricane hits because the courses might be under water for several days post storm.
That is the design of the water management system. Better to have the golf courses flood than our homes.
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 03:41 PM
Good advice to remain calm. Every city has emergency preparations and will be out to help as soon as they can. But, there are times when they can not reach you for quite some time because trees and debris are blocking the streets or another area is in more need. Also, it does not matter if your utilities are underground. The electrical grid can go haywire and the sewage can be blocked up. I have lived through this. There is a saying about those who ignore the simple act of planning and preparing, they are always the ones who suffer the most. Do not panic! Be prepared! Again, I can not fully describe the absolute discomfort of "after the storm.". It is not location that has saved the Villages with prior hurricanes, it is pure luck! Mother Nature is not selective!
I believe location does have something to do with the severity of hurricanes we experience in the central part of the state. A hurricane can come on shore a cat 5 and will peter out buy the time it gets to the central part of the state. Once a hurricane goes over land mass, it loses energy.
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 03:49 PM
yes please all y'all run out today and empty walmart and publix of every bottle of water ever possible please please please.
I will never understand the need to purchase bottled water to prepare for a hurricane. I have plenty of receptacles in our home that I can fill with water from the tap before the storm arrives. I have never purchased bottled water for emergencies. I actually like the taste of our fridge filtered water than most bottled water too, Fuji is the exception.
margaretmattson
07-12-2023, 06:00 PM
I believe location does have something to do with the severity of hurricanes we experience in the central part of the state. A hurricane can come on shore a cat 5 and will peter out buy the time it gets to the central part of the state. Once a hurricane goes over land mass, it loses energy.
Not always. I have seen twice a hurricane hitting shore in Tampa but more powerful in Orlando. Many people who once evacuated from Tampa to Orlando, now have reconsidered. They drive north along the coast instead of inland hoping to avoid the hurricane path completely.
My concern with the Villages is that it is only one hour away from Orlando. One hook turn, and a disastrous hurricane can be at our doorstep. Will it happen? I don't know! Anyone's guess!
Having been through more than a dozen hurricanes, I would not be surprised! Hurricanes are extremely unpredictable!
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 06:52 PM
A few years ago, I attended a 4th of July bbq at a friends house. A hurricane was coming toward Florida. It was my first hurricane prep. I was storing food and water. I asked if others were preparing? They looked at me and said “ what hurricane?” We get wind and rain in the villages and trees lose limbs. Some lived here several years and said they never lost power. The people from the coast come here when hurricanes come. The Wildwood community Center is a hurricane evacuation facility.
I would get basic supplies- I still have water from that last prep.
I saw pictures from a previous storm that torn off roofs in the villages. Who can say - do what makes you feel safe and comfortable.
Is it possible the roofs that were torn off were from the 2007 tornado?
coffeebean
07-12-2023, 07:32 PM
Not always. I have seen twice a hurricane hitting shore in Tampa but more powerful in Orlando. Many people who once evacuated from Tampa to Orlando, now have reconsidered. They drive north along the coast instead of inland hoping to avoid the hurricane path completely.
My concern with the Villages is that it is only one hour away from Orlando. One hook turn, and a disastrous hurricane can be at our doorstep. Will it happen? I don't know! Anyone's guess!
Having been through more than a dozen hurricanes, I would not be surprised! Hurricanes are extremely unpredictable!
As you said, hurricanes are unpredictable but usually, a hurricane loses energy when it travels over land mass. I don't get all that apprehensive when there is a hurricane staring us down. I feel safer here than on the coast.
Graspher
07-12-2023, 08:39 PM
Huh
Excellent point. However cost is always a point at 10-15,000.00 for a whole home generators, natural gas powered you may be over prepared in the risk to convenience scale. A hurricane if it impacts you, will probably be a once in a lifetime event.
Either way anyone who has a generator, who addresses fuel supply, will be way ahead of his/her neighbor who bought a case of canned food, a few candles and filled their bathtub with water.
Agree with you on the standard whole house gens that folks typically install. My next door neighbor spent $22k to have one installed a year ago.
I don’t see the value in that option.
I like the option you outlined.
However - I’m currently focused on this configuration:
20-25k watt gen that runs on both gasoline and natural gas (we already have a natural gas line in place) approx $1,200-1,400.
Easy start for a 5ton hvac system approx $400.
Switch for the breaker box approx $100 - pigtail receptacle approx $300 - pigtail wire approx $200.
I can DIY everything except the natural gas connection - haven’t priced this yet.
I have a separate but attached building that I can run the gen from (pipe the exhaust to the outside) which my neighbors will appreciate.
For somewhere around $3k I will be able to power everything in my house all at the same time including hvac. That’s all lights plus receptacles - 2 fridges - deep freeze - hvac…but won’t be able to do laundry with the air on. Not even an issue.
Yes - I’ll have to roll out the gen - connect the gas - plug the pig in - switch the power source in the breaker box - start the gen.
Those who have the whole house $15-20k gen setup do nothing when the power goes off. That type of system is automatic.
I don’t mind spending 30 to 60 minutes doing setup to save $18k.
paminix
07-13-2023, 08:29 AM
My one daughter told me to fill the bathtub with water. The other daughter said to hunker in the tub with a mattress over me. Based on their advice, I would not have survived the hurricane, because I would have drowned in my own bathtub...
kkingston57
07-18-2023, 07:26 AM
I've read some, not all responses so forgive me if this is a duplicate.
If you have old photos and are staying for a storm put them in a bag, you may want to wrap them up with towels to protect them. Include your name and contact information in the bag. Or, place them in your empty dishwasher or dryer. Same goes if you have a few small sentimental breakable items.
When we lived in SE FL after Hurricane Francis we were without power for 14 long, hot days. We had dogs and a cat. We still had the storm shutters on the windows and sliders after the storm, so all of us slept outside on the lanai. We made a makeshift bed out of the patio furniture cushions. We slept on the lanai with our pets. We were sleeping and it was about 4 am. I heard looters walking in the empty woods next to us, crunching the leaves as they walked and were talking. But it blended in with my dreams. One of our dogs made the most evil sounding guttural noise. Whoever they were stopped in their tracks, stopped talking and never made another peep. She didn't sound like a dog but like a wild animal and the way the noise traveled it was hard to tell where she was.
I was concerned about the heat and our pets being indoors while we were out. I called our vet and he suggested taking a wet towel and putting it on our dog's backs. We had a generator that we were able to use for the fridge and TV. We wet down the towels, put them in the freezer. We had a big cooler and ice. When the towels were cold we put them on our girls. This lasted about 4 hours. We had other towels in the freezer and rotated them.
We had big girls so we used bath towels. If you have smaller dogs, or cats you can use a hand towel or wash cloth. Our dog's left the towels on, our cat didn't tolerate it. Our vet told us that if our dog's became overheated to put their paws in cool (not cold, or freezing) water. This can quickly bring down a dog's body temperature.
This may seem a bit much but my husband even took down the blades of the ceiling fans on the lanai. They could fly off if the storm is bad enough and do a lot of damage.
Keep an eye out for any of your neighbors who may need a helping hand preparing.
Try to keep a full tank of gas during hurricane season. I try not to get to under half a tank.
And after that storm and Hurricanes Jeanne and Wilma almost everyone bought generators which sat for years and were useless thereafter due to gummed up carburetors.
dewilson58
07-18-2023, 07:29 AM
My one daughter told me to fill the bathtub with water. The other daughter said to hunker in the tub with a mattress over me. Based on their advice, I would not have survived the hurricane, because I would have drowned in my own bathtub...
Smart daughters...................it's not a messy death (like a gun) to clean up in their new house.
coffeebean
07-18-2023, 09:32 AM
Smart daughters...................it's not a messy death (like a gun) to clean up in their new house.
Funny and funnier. LOL.
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