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Rainger99
07-13-2023, 10:20 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
Caymus
07-13-2023, 10:42 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
Won't miss them for a few years. Plenty of old shows I have never seen.
Taltarzac725
07-13-2023, 10:44 AM
Yes. The movie and TV show production will slow down a lot unless they come to a quick settlement.
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kcrazorbackfan
07-13-2023, 11:47 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
Miss who? š
Taltarzac725
07-13-2023, 11:54 AM
Miss who? ������
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Was looking forward to this and many other 2023 releases. Also the 2nd part of the last Mission Impossible movie comes out next summer.
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manaboutown
07-13-2023, 12:31 PM
I have not been to a movie in years and maybe once or twice a year watch an old one on TV. I prefer to read.
Stu from NYC
07-13-2023, 12:33 PM
Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.
However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?
oldtimes
07-13-2023, 12:56 PM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
Nope
Michael 61
07-13-2023, 01:04 PM
They can stay out on strike as long as they want - all the best movies are on TCM.
Papa_lecki
07-13-2023, 02:16 PM
But letās reopen the Brownwood theater.
Stu from NYC
07-13-2023, 02:33 PM
Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.
Bogie Shooter
07-13-2023, 03:26 PM
Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.
What do striking Hollywood writers want? A look at demands | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/wga-writers-strike-demands-d403f5b4666f20e2ce3e379bcaef5f2a)
Taltarzac725
07-13-2023, 03:59 PM
What do striking Hollywood writers want? A look at demands | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/wga-writers-strike-demands-d403f5b4666f20e2ce3e379bcaef5f2a)
Thanks for posting that.
I used to go to the movies once a week or more but do use other resources for watching movies now.
Stu from NYC
07-13-2023, 03:59 PM
What do striking Hollywood writers want? A look at demands | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/wga-writers-strike-demands-d403f5b4666f20e2ce3e379bcaef5f2a)
I see percentages but do not see the actual dollars they make or are looking for so the article does not give the info I would like to see.
Number 10 GI
07-13-2023, 04:48 PM
Won't miss them at all. I haven't watched prime time television in nearly 15 years. I've probably only gone to 5 or 6 movies in that time. If I want to destroy brain cells on a massive scale, I'll drink a bottle of whiskey every day.
Bogie Shooter
07-13-2023, 06:04 PM
I see percentages but do not see the actual dollars they make or are looking for so the article does not give the info I would like to see.
So. You want me to look up the info you want? Really?
Djean1981
07-13-2023, 06:18 PM
Nope. I'm currently watching Rockford re-runs. Most new programming is blah..
Stu from NYC
07-13-2023, 06:20 PM
So. You want me to look up the info you want? Really?
No. I asked a question you answered it with no real info and I commented on it.
Bogie Shooter
07-13-2023, 07:03 PM
Need to find a picket line to cross. Do wonder how much the writers are getting paid so not sure without that whether to be sympathetic or not.
More for your perusal.
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Taltarzac725
07-13-2023, 10:34 PM
Too bad the retired former NYC area labor lawyer is not on here any longer. I think he might have passed, unfortunately. Used to talk to him a bit at a local dog park. But I do not recall him posting for a few years on Talk of the Villages.
I see this strike going on for a few months but could be wrong.
Marmaduke
07-14-2023, 05:27 AM
Remember how much we liked the Classy Hollywood stars!
When they keep their political influence$ on the screen, stage and tube, we'll return in droves.
That goes for all political sides, so this doesn't turn political.
But, the Way We Were isn't the way we are now, so frankly Scarlet, I don't give a ____!
MandoMan
07-14-2023, 06:37 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
They joined the strike after the screen writers had already been on strike for a month or so instead of waiting for the writersā strike to be over. I guess thatās striking while the iron is hot.
Blackbird45
07-14-2023, 06:45 AM
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.
Dgodin
07-14-2023, 07:19 AM
Our economy will miss them.
Joe C.
07-14-2023, 07:28 AM
Good riddance.
Whitley
07-14-2023, 07:28 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
I really do not think I will even notice. Unlike th 890s, 90's there aren't many (any) scripted shows I watc`h on TV. As for the movies, No desire to see movies reshot with a "equitable" cast.
Stu from NYC
07-14-2023, 07:32 AM
I am sure we can entertain ourselves with the streaming services we use.
oldtimes
07-14-2023, 07:39 AM
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.
Maybe if they stop turning out garbage. We are streaming some of the older shows. We especially enjoy the British ones.
Caymus
07-14-2023, 08:00 AM
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.
Seems like a supply and demand problem. Maybe the "working stiffs" should consider changing professions. Plenty of jobs in medical and building trades.
Vermilion Villager
07-14-2023, 08:05 AM
Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.
However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?
The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:
airstreamingypsy
07-14-2023, 08:20 AM
Please let me know if they do not come to terms by this time next year.
However how are these people making 20 million or so a movie going to survive?
You think everyone who works on a movie set makes 20 million a movie?
Regorp
07-14-2023, 08:22 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
No. Plenty for me to watch on streaming with Paramount+, Plex, Netflix, etc. Strike all you want!!
ThirdOfFive
07-14-2023, 08:22 AM
What if they gave a strike and nobody came?
Hollywood has been taking it on the chin this past ten years or so. According to Bloomberg (Article by Lucas Shaw, June 25, 2023) profits for the largest entertainer companies and studios are down 60% from 2013. COVID didn't help, and numerous other factors are also in play, particularly streaming services which apparently negatively impact residuals for both actors and writers.
But one recurring theme I saw as a result of clicking around blames the "contraction" on Hollywood's mindless adherence to formulae, i.e. "creative stagnation". One article described it thus: "... we're seeing studios pass over original ideas in favor of proven IP. That makes people a little exhausted at the same stuff coming out over and over again. In film and TV, this is happening with countless reboots and spinoffs.
Hollywood has been accused of lacking originality in recent years, with many films and TV shows being sequels, reboots, or adaptations. This has led to a perception of creative stagnation, which can lead to a decrease in audience interest and revenue." (no film school dot com / creative stagnation).
The term no brainer comes to mind. Now and again a sequel comes out that is the equal to, or even better than, the original (Godfather II and Top Gun - Maverick come to mind, among some others) but many if not most of them are garbage. Anybody see (and actually enjoy) "Noah", that cabalistic clunker with some kind of weird environmental twist starring Russel Crowe, Anthony Hopkins and several other well-known actors that basically, flopped? Not precisely a sequel but certainly a retelling. Rotten Tomatoes gave it just a hair over two stars and I think that was being overly generous. Or "Exodus: Gods and Kings": that purported retelling of Moses and The Ten Commandments that (except for Ghassan Massoud as the Grand Vizier) was basically unwatchable? As Kip Mooney of Central Track stated, in his review, "How so many talented people came together here and just so completely whiffed on one of the most incredible stories ever written is beyond me." Comparing it to the Charlton Heston version of 60 years ago is just not possible. Or the weary parade of movie after movie after movie that is nothing but CGI and formula storytelling, all blending together after a time so that after the first few, you can basically predict what is going to happen and when?
Instead of loudly demanding more and more money from fewer and fewer profits, this gaggle of self-absorbed egotists should be focusing on what they are doing wrong and doing all in their power to change it. It can be done well and profitably: recent productions by Angel Studios and other independent film-makers have proven that. But weary formulae and cockeyed avant-garde retellings have been more than proven to be NOT the way.
airstreamingypsy
07-14-2023, 08:26 AM
I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.
Taltarzac725
07-14-2023, 08:37 AM
I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.
Me too.
Plenty of very good movies coming out will stall in their production. And some actors and actresses and others involved in this strike barely make ends meet. They wait tables, teach, play athletic games, etc.
Chi-Town
07-14-2023, 08:43 AM
Think many who don't care if there are any new movies or television shows only watch one channel anyway.
Stu from NYC
07-14-2023, 08:43 AM
The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:
I know but they seem to be doing ok and with demand for writers going down seems like some need to find a new career.
Michael 61
07-14-2023, 08:45 AM
I've been watching the early 80s TV series, St Elsewhere for a few weeks, back then a season was 22 episodes and there are 6 seasons... it's my all time favorite series. So there will still be plenty to amuse us. That said, I've waited too long for Deadpool 3, and since they stopped filming yesterday...... I am really disappointed.
Agree ā so many good old TV series to binge watch - right now, Iām into Adam-12 / Emergency! / Streets of San Francisco / McMillan and Wife / Vega$
scooterstang
07-14-2023, 09:15 AM
Only if it interferes with my daily dose of "the Young and Restless" they make all my troubles seem so small on that show! I have been watching since my mom was alive(25 years so far)
kendi
07-14-2023, 09:28 AM
No, donāt miss them.
Robbb
07-14-2023, 09:37 AM
I'm not either an actor or a writer, but I did negotiate contracts with the majors twice. Most well-known actors are doing very well money wise. But the majority of the business are working stiffs that live paycheck to paycheck. When you sit down for negotiations you are not sitting opposite the CEO or management you are across the table with people whose jobs are to figure out a way to keep the increase as low as possible or find a way to avoid any increases at all. Now I never considered them the enemy, because I understood the game, but I was also aware that the executives at the same time they were claiming poverty were earning millions of dollars a year. The problem here is larger than the entertainment industry. When workers help a business grow both management and workers should reap the rewards and when a business starts to decline everyone should share the pain. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. When a business starts to turn sour the CEO remains at their highest salary or gets fire with a golden parachute while the workers suffer one way or another. I don't have the answer, but there has to be a better way for this to work.
I totally get that, however when you look at the current pay scale its difficult to be sympathetic to the union. As I read the current contract they recieve around $30,000 for every 30 minute episode they write , and app $120,000 for every new show theme they write. This on top of residuals as reruns. Its hard to match this to the unions claims that 49% of their writers are making minimum wage. If that's truly the case they should find another industry to work in.
Blackbird45
07-14-2023, 09:59 AM
Sag and Aftra claim to have 171,157 actors, I'm sure most of us couldn't name100 actors. Most of these members are lucky to make a living wage. Yes, there are actors who are making millions, but that is a handful. This strike not only effects actors and writer, but also crews, caters, equipment rentals, hotels and on and on. Now I'm happy for the people who are satisfied to watch TCM for the rest of their lives, but you do understand that strikes like this have an effect on our economy. There is an unequitable amount of money at the top, anyone who denies that is living in a bubble. If there is a reduce in income because of streaming, then all parties should sit down and figure out how to share the reductions, not just the employees.
oldtimes
07-14-2023, 10:12 AM
Sag and Aftra claim to have 171,157 actors, I'm sure most of us couldn't name100 actors. Most of these members are lucky to make a living wage. Yes, there are actors who are making millions, but that is a handful. This strike not only effects actors and writer, but also crews, caters, equipment rentals, hotels and on and on. Now I'm happy for the people who are satisfied to watch TCM for the rest of their lives, but you do understand that strikes like this have an effect on our economy. There is an unequitable amount of money at the top, anyone who denies that is living in a bubble. If there is a reduce in income because of streaming, then all parties should sit down and figure out how to share the reductions, not just the employees.
Thatās true but there is the old supply and demand aspect. If they are producing an inferior product that people are not enjoying and therefore not watching maybe they should consider improving their product. They can pay everyone more money but if the viewers continue to drop they have not solved anything.
Tvflguy
07-14-2023, 10:33 AM
I could not care less about the Hollywood community.
Blackbird45
07-14-2023, 10:41 AM
Thatās true but there is the old supply and demand aspect. If they are producing an inferior product that people are not enjoying and therefore not watching maybe they should consider improving their product. They can pay everyone more money but if the viewers continue to drop they have not solved anything.
You have to understand what actually hits the screen is usually decided by the people at the top. Not the actors or the writers. The business is also a gamble, I worked on jobs I though where only going to collect dust and became hits. I've worked on jobs where they were critically acclaimed and barely broke even. It's a crap shoot but when you hit, it pays off big time. No one really knows. Remember the Edsel, I'm sure who ever designed that believed it was going to dominate the auto industry.
oldtimes
07-14-2023, 11:10 AM
You have to understand what actually hits the screen is usually decided by the people at the top. Not the actors or the writers. The business is also a gamble, I worked on jobs I though where only going to collect dust and became hits. I've worked on jobs where they were critically acclaimed and barely broke even. It's a crap shoot but when you hit, it pays off big time. No one really knows. Remember the Edsel, I'm sure who ever designed that believed it was going to dominate the auto industry.
These are fair points and I wish them well but I still think they are producing more Edsels than anything else.
maistocars
07-14-2023, 01:12 PM
Good riddance I say!
Kelevision
07-14-2023, 01:44 PM
They joined the strike after the screen writers had already been on strike for a month or so instead of waiting for the writersā strike to be over. I guess thatās striking while the iron is hot.
They didnāt ājoinā the strike. The writers went on strike when their contract was up and so did the actors. The directors contract was also up a couple of weeks ago but they chose to make a deal instead of strike. The actors were up June 30 and they extended one week hoping to make a deal.
Kelevision
07-14-2023, 01:48 PM
Only if it interferes with my daily dose of "the Young and Restless" they make all my troubles seem so small on that show! I have been watching since my mom was alive(25 years so far)
Well, then you remember the last writers strike when they started airing reruns. Thatāll happen soon. Youāll get to see Victor young again.
Stu from NYC
07-14-2023, 01:49 PM
They didnāt ājoinā the strike. The writers went on strike when their contract was up and so did the actors. The directors contract was also up a couple of weeks ago but they chose to make a deal instead of strike. The actors were up June 30 and they extended one week hoping to make a deal.
Didnt know actors contract was up but whole thing not my problem.
Kelevision
07-14-2023, 01:53 PM
The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:
No, the actors arenāt supporting the writers by striking. Just like the writers contract was up last month, the directors contract was up 2 weeks ago ( we made a deal and didnāt strike) the actors contract was up June 30, they extended it by one week in hopes of making a deal but that didnāt happen. So now theyāre striking.
Dlpdo
07-14-2023, 02:36 PM
What a self centered question. Yes there are thousands of people who will miss them and care that they are on strike. I donāt mean the people that will have to wait a little longer to see the new episode of their favorite show. I mean numerous people whose livelihood depends on these people working. These people are now out of a job with no income coming in. But then as long as it doesnāt affect you it doesnāt matter.
Taltarzac725
07-14-2023, 02:46 PM
What a self centered question. Yes there are thousands of people who will miss them and care that they are on strike. I donāt mean the people that will have to wait a little longer to see the new episode of their favorite show. I mean numerous people whose livelihood depends on these people working. These people are now out of a job with no income coming in. But then as long as it doesnāt affect you it doesnāt matter.
These blockbuster movies often hire thousands of people in the locations they are being filmed. So they do have quite an impact.
Not sure how many people the television productions hire but it would probably be quite a number for shows with a lot of scenery and special effects.
Kelevision
07-14-2023, 04:01 PM
These blockbuster movies often hire thousands of people in the locations they are being filmed. So they do have quite an impact.
Not sure how many people the television productions hire but it would probably be quite a number for shows with a lot of scenery and special effects.
Each tv show employees apporox 150 regular crew members during production and maybe 1/3 of them work through prep and wrap.
Blackbird45
07-14-2023, 04:40 PM
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.
Caymus
07-14-2023, 05:35 PM
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.
If it is so hard, they should quit and obtained jobs in other industries.
Keefelane66
07-14-2023, 05:45 PM
The last time the writers and actors went on strike at the same time was in 1960, when Ronald Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild.
Stu from NYC
07-14-2023, 06:24 PM
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.
Nobody forces them to continue in this industry. They choose to for whatever reason.
Keefelane66
07-14-2023, 07:49 PM
Nobody forces them to continue in this industry. They choose to for whatever reason.
Most are skilled trades electrician plumber carpenters painters will be easy for them to transition to similar work. Filming crews, editors will have a harder time. End credits of a movies list jobs and names associated with production
Stu from NYC
07-14-2023, 08:59 PM
Most are skilled trades electrician plumber carpenters painters will be easy for them to transition to similar work. Filming crews, editors will have a harder time. End credits of a movies list jobs and names associated with production
Do they really need all the people listed at the end of a film? From some articles I suspect there is some featherbedding going on.
Since films are such a high risk business do not understand why films cost such huge amounts.
TooColdinIdaho
07-15-2023, 03:13 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
I guess I see their point in striking while they still can.
Within a few years, they will become as obsolete as the Telegraph.
My thoughts are soon A.I. will replace most actors and screenwriters.
At least with A.I. actors, we won't have to listen to their personal Political views anymore.
There are some actors I like, but can't get myself to watch because of the insane things they try to push on me just because they are "famous".
I have always respected some actors for their ability to make me believe in the part they were portraying.
It was like I was watching something as it happened and I would forget it was a "play"
(Bogart/Bacall in "Key Largo", "To Have and Have Not" or "The Big Sleep" as examples)
I don't care nor want to know what their political views are.
But then again, that's probably just me... what do I know?
bruce213
07-15-2023, 06:56 AM
If you keep up with forum(or do a search) you will remember several threads about long lines of wait times to get into the movies. There are also threads about people trying to reopen the barnstorm theater. So yes a lot of people williss them.
ThirdOfFive
07-15-2023, 06:57 AM
I guess I see their point in striking while they still can.
Within a few years, they will become as obsolete as the Telegraph.
My thoughts are soon A.I. will replace most actors and screenwriters.
At least with A.I. actors, we won't have to listen to their personal Political views anymore.
There are some actors I like, but can't get myself to watch because of the insane things they try to push on me just because they are "famous".
I have always respected some actors for their ability to make me believe in the part they were portraying.
It was like I was watching something as it happened and I would forget it was a "play"
(Bogart/Bacall in "Key Largo", "To Have and Have Not" or "The Big Sleep" as examples)
I don't care nor want to know what their political views are.
But then again, that's probably just me... what do I know?
Amen!
For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can give credence to such statements, when made by people whose ONLY demonstrated talent is pretending to be someone they're not.
Kelevision
07-15-2023, 07:51 AM
I guess I see their point in striking while they still can.
Within a few years, they will become as obsolete as the Telegraph.
My thoughts are soon A.I. will replace most actors and screenwriters.
At least with A.I. actors, we won't have to listen to their personal Political views anymore.
There are some actors I like, but can't get myself to watch because of the insane things they try to push on me just because they are "famous".
I have always respected some actors for their ability to make me believe in the part they were portraying.
It was like I was watching something as it happened and I would forget it was a "play"
(Bogart/Bacall in "Key Largo", "To Have and Have Not" or "The Big Sleep" as examples)
I don't care nor want to know what their political views are.
But then again, that's probably just me... what do I know?
Elaborate pleaseā¦. Which actors and what are the insane things they try to push on you? Iāve never had an actor try to push insane things on me so Iām legit curious.
Taltarzac725
07-15-2023, 08:44 AM
Elaborate pleaseā¦. Which actors and what are the insane things they try to push on you? Iāve never had an actor try to push insane things on me so Iām legit curious.
Probably something they have said on Oprah or other shows.
Some actors and actresses have raised awareness of certain issues. I thank them for their courage. Tippi Hedren - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/tippi_hedren) Her work on protections for exotic animal, for instance.
margaretmattson
07-15-2023, 07:24 PM
Elaborate pleaseā¦. Which actors and what are the insane things they try to push on you? Iāve never had an actor try to push insane things on me so Iām legit curious.
1.Tom Cruise- Scientology
2. Donald Trump and others getting voted into office
3. Oprah on just about EVERYTHING
4. Beyonce- Black Lives Matter
5. Kid Rock- ban Bud Light for going woke
6. Plastic Surgery Nonsense of actors/actresses who OBVIOUSLY had something done
7. Jennie McCarthy- Innoculations of children that prevent diseases causes autism. So, beware! Don't have your children injected.
8. Angelina Jolie- adopt third world children instead of having your own
9. Pamela Anderson- moved to France because Trump was elected
The list goes on and on..... BTW: Don't hate the messenger. You were the one who asked for examples
Taltarzac725
07-15-2023, 07:33 PM
I do not hear that much about Travolta and Cruise on Scientology. Just once in a while.
And for every one actor/actress that pushes some interest of their own there are probably one hundred who do not.
1.Tom Cruise- Scientology
2. Donald Trump and others getting voted into office
3. Oprah on just about EVERYTHING
4. Beyonce- Black Lives Matter
5. Kid Rock- ban Bud Light for going woke
6. Plastic Surgery Nonsense of actors/actresses who OBVIOUSLY had something done
7. Jennie McCarthy- Innoculations of children that prevent diseases causes autism. So, beware! Don't have your children injected.
8. Angelina Jolie- adopt third world children instead of having your own
9. Pamela Anderson- moved to France because Trump was elected
The list goes on and on..... BTW: Don't hate the messenger. You were the one who asked for examples
Michael 61
07-15-2023, 07:48 PM
And of course, Jane Fonda
jimmy o
07-15-2023, 09:07 PM
The overpaid actors can afford fo be on strike the rest of their lives and still die filthy rich. As for the writers, really, they stink. Todays writers wouldnāt know a plot from a hole in the ground. In fact thatās exactly all they think that it is.
Kelevision
07-16-2023, 05:00 AM
1.Tom Cruise- Scientology
2. Donald Trump and others getting voted into office
3. Oprah on just about EVERYTHING
4. Beyonce- Black Lives Matter
5. Kid Rock- ban Bud Light for going woke
6. Plastic Surgery Nonsense of actors/actresses who OBVIOUSLY had something done
7. Jennie McCarthy- Innoculations of children that prevent diseases causes autism. So, beware! Don't have your children injected.
8. Angelina Jolie- adopt third world children instead of having your own
9. Pamela Anderson- moved to France because Trump was elected
The list goes on and on..... BTW: Don't hate the messenger. You were the one who asked for examples
No not at all! i donāt hate the messenger :wave:
But when I think of pushing their agenda on othersā¦ā¦
1. Scientologist actually never discuss being a Scientologist or Scientology with others. (theyāre still creepy though)
2. Yes I agree but still not really pushing an agenda, other than all political agendas. Though I guess you could consider that weird Goya beans thing pushing agendas?
3. I admittedly donāt watch Oprah but people seem to love her opinions on her favorite things. :a040:
4. I mean, sheās black and again, itās not pushing her agenda. Lots of black and non black celebs support BLM
5. Kid who? Heās just trying to say relevant. heās also easily triggered by beer apparently.
6. Well they arenāt telling people to go out and get plastic surgery as a matter of fact, they might be helping women decide against it after seeing bad results?
7. Iāll give you this one for sure. Good example.
8. Sheās had 3 of her own kids and also adopted. She first adopted when she was single. She started dating Billy Bob Thornton around the same time and he was a father figure to her eldest son for a while. Sheās been a fantastic hands on mother. I admire her a great deal for that. She has the money to help so let her.
9. Actually, she moved there to live with her French boyfriend. Also, sheās Canadian and currently lives in her home country of Canada.
Another good one would be Leo DeCaprio and Climate Change. Or of course Jane Fonda.
oldtimes
07-16-2023, 07:05 AM
No not at all! i donāt hate the messenger :wave:
But when I think of pushing their agenda on othersā¦ā¦
1. Scientologist actually never discuss being a Scientologist or Scientology with others. (theyāre still creepy though)
2. Yes I agree but still not really pushing an agenda, other than all political agendas. Though I guess you could consider that weird Goya beans thing pushing agendas?
3. I admittedly donāt watch Oprah but people seem to love her opinions on her favorite things. :a040:
4. I mean, sheās black and again, itās not pushing her agenda. Lots of black and non black celebs support BLM
5. Kid who? Heās just trying to say relevant. heās also easily triggered by beer apparently.
6. Well they arenāt telling people to go out and get plastic surgery as a matter of fact, they might be helping women decide against it after seeing bad results?
7. Iāll give you this one for sure. Good example.
8. Sheās had 3 of her own kids and also adopted. She first adopted when she was single. She started dating Billy Bob Thornton around the same time and he was a father figure to her eldest son for a while. Sheās been a fantastic hands on mother. I admire her a great deal for that. She has the money to help so let her.
9. Actually, she moved there to live with her French boyfriend. Also, sheās Canadian and currently lives in her home country of Canada.
Another good one would be Leo DeCaprio and Climate Change. Or of course Jane Fonda.
Honestly I donāt care what they say on their own time but the shows are brain numbing. They seem to be more focused on pushing a social agenda than actually having a plot and the acting is a farce. The characters are unlikeable and unbelievable.
dtennent
07-16-2023, 09:25 AM
One of the concerns that the background actors have is having their image digitized and used in future productions without payment. They get paid for the one day/week that they are on the set and the studio would own their image forever. These folks, unlike the megastars, arenāt making millions. How many of you would be happy with that situation?
Kelevision
07-17-2023, 08:31 AM
One of the concerns that the background actors have is having their image digitized and used in future productions without payment. They get paid for the one day/week that they are on the set and the studio would own their image forever. These folks, unlike the megastars, arenāt making millions. How many of you would be happy with that situation?
I think this is a bit of the telephone game. Theyāve been scanning actors and background for a long time. Similar idea is⦠VFX⦠say you need a bug crawling on a person. You pay big bucks for them to create that bug BUT you can now use that bug for much much less in other scenes. You certainly canāt use that bug in other films or projects. Even if itās the same studio theyād have to buy another bug. Iām guessing the offer was to pay the BG more money to scan them for that project only. AMPT arenāt stupidā¦..Wouldnāt it be great if we could all see what the real offers were? I shouldāve have mentioned Iām currently in 2 unions. The DGA and IATSE. I feel bad for the thousands of IATSE crew members unemployed now because of these strikes.
Michael 61
07-17-2023, 08:34 AM
Question for those that are supporting the strike - does going to a movie or watching steaming services constitute ācrossing the picket lineā?
Rainger99
07-17-2023, 08:46 AM
Yesterday, Barry Diller suggested that, to end the strike, the executives and the highest paid actors take a 25 percent pay cut.
Anyone see that happening??
Michael 61
07-17-2023, 08:49 AM
Yesterday, Barry Diller suggested that, to end the strike, the executives and the highest paid actors take a 25 percent pay cut.
Anyone see that happening??
Nope - waiting for Tom Cruise to get on board and publicly support - Aināt gonna happen!
Battlebasset
07-17-2023, 09:16 AM
Pretty soon, you'll be able to use AI to create your own personal movie/series.
Input a story line idea and a pop up list of questions comes up. Select what you are looking for, a rating, and any other features you are looking for. Utilizing stock images, an animation is created.
Not as far fetched as you might think. You can already have AI write a script.
Salty Dog
07-18-2023, 09:56 AM
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Robbb
07-19-2023, 08:07 AM
It looks like the actors and writers on going to be on strike!
Will anyone miss them??
Hollywood actors poised to join writers on strike after talks collapse | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/hollywood-actors-strike-ca3e3eddc910f1e52d618e5e3c394554)
OMG no new movies, how can we live without paying $15 to be told we are racist, homophobic, biggeted, hate filled, capitalist pigs?
Stu from NYC
07-19-2023, 08:56 AM
OMG no new movies, how can we live without paying $15 to be told we are racist, homophobic, biggeted, hate filled, capitalist pigs?
Well we needed them to tell us this as otherwise how would we know?
Taltarzac725
07-19-2023, 08:58 AM
OMG no new movies, how can we live without paying $15 to be told we are racist, homophobic, biggeted, hate filled, capitalist pigs?
Not sure where you are getting that.
wisbad1
07-19-2023, 10:17 AM
Won't miss them for a few years. Plenty of old shows I have never seen.
I think the actors are just acting
Whitley
07-19-2023, 11:16 AM
1.Tom Cruise- Scientology
2. Donald Trump and others getting voted into office
3. Oprah on just about EVERYTHING
4. Beyonce- Black Lives Matter
5. Kid Rock- ban Bud Light for going woke
6. Plastic Surgery Nonsense of actors/actresses who OBVIOUSLY had something done
7. Jennie McCarthy- Innoculations of children that prevent diseases causes autism. So, beware! Don't have your children injected.
8. Angelina Jolie- adopt third world children instead of having your own
9. Pamela Anderson- moved to France because Trump was elected
The list goes on and on..... BTW: Don't hate the messenger. You were the one who asked for examples
I guess we should thank them for their courage.
Whitley
07-19-2023, 11:23 AM
Thank Goodness Snow White and the Seven Magical Creatures is in the can and ready to be in theatres.
Caymus
07-19-2023, 01:55 PM
I found this funny.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la-investigating-after-universal-trims-trees-near-writers-picket-line/ar-AA1e3r55
karostay
07-20-2023, 09:14 AM
Hope they don't come back
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