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Maryland Girl
12-12-2010, 08:25 PM
My husband and I are thinking of purchasing a CYV on a corner lot in Edgewater Bungalows. Our sales rep told us that of the 10 feet between us and the next house, we own 5 feet and the house next to us owns 5 feet. (The side of his house forms part of the 'fencing' between our two villas.) Our rep said the tenants in the villa next to ours owns the 5 feet but only we have use of it. If for any reason the owners in the house next to us want to do maintance on the wall of their villa, they have to ask our permission to access the 5 feet of the land they own. We have never heard of this before and it seems awfully strange. Can anyone offer any insight to this situation?

Bill-n-Brillo
12-12-2010, 08:49 PM
It's the same way with the Patio Villa we're buying.

Bill

Pturner
12-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Maryland Girl + Bill,
Do you also have to get the neighbor's permission for maintenance on your side? Just curious.

Bill-n-Brillo
12-12-2010, 09:16 PM
Maryland Girl + Bill,
Do you also have to get the neighbor's permission for maintenance on your side? Just curious.

P - Can't speak to the specifics of a CYV. But with the Patio Villa we're buying, the full space (on one side) of your house is all yours to use as you see fit (and as that fits the covenants/rules) even though half of it legally is the other house's property. The reverse holds true on the other side of your house. Landscaping, sprinklers, mowing, etc. is the responsibility of the one property owner who has the use of the entire space. Works out nice to have use of the full space, though it's only on just the one side.

If someone doesn't have a copy of their deed restrictions (or if you'd want to see them for a property you're considering), go to www.districtgov.org , click "How do I?" at the top, click on "Download My Deed Restrictions" at the end of the drop-down list, then click on the particular District unit/villa. These will give you all the particulars about the usage. Hope that helps!

Bill

Rob Stevens
12-12-2010, 09:42 PM
Wow. Best Q & A I've seen on TOTV. Learn something new everyday. This is something I've never heard of before.

Maryland Girl
12-12-2010, 10:09 PM
Pturner;315036]Maryland Girl + Bill,
Do you also have to get the neighbor's permission for maintenance on your side? Just curious.

Pturner,
We don't have to get the neighbor's permission because we will be on a corner lot and the only adjacent house is the one where we have use of his 5 feet of property. We have access to all sides of our house without having to be on another's property.

Maryland Girl
12-12-2010, 10:17 PM
Bill,
Thanks for the information. It has been most helpful and we'll check our deed restrictions.

chuckinca
12-13-2010, 12:47 AM
Seems weird to me - what if you don't like what is happening on your property?

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BogeyBoy
12-13-2010, 07:27 AM
Here's an example of the deed restrictions for a CYV. Read Article IV, Property Rights.


http://www.districtgov.org/images/DeedRestiction/sumter/District%207/S7-711%20Adriana.pdf

Bill-n-Brillo
12-13-2010, 08:19 AM
Bill,
Thanks for the information. It has been most helpful and we'll check our deed restrictions. You're most welcome! :)

Bill

Bill-n-Brillo
12-13-2010, 08:22 AM
Seems weird to me - what if you don't like what is happening on your property?

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chuck - As long as what your neighbor is doing is compliant with the restrictions, etc., you probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on for taking issue. If it's something related to personal taste, I reckon that's always something that can be taken up one-on-one with your neighbor.

Bill

batman911
12-13-2010, 02:35 PM
This set up allows each homeowner to have a larger useful side yard. Otherwise you would have a narrow strip on both sides. It is a better use of land for the developer. We have this setup in my current neighborhood. The only problems I have observed is when a careless neighbor lets their sprinklers spray on your house wall and it causes some damage. There is also the issue of landscaping interferring with your ability to maintain that wall.

Maryland Girl
12-13-2010, 08:05 PM
This set up allows each homeowner to have a larger useful side yard. Otherwise you would have a narrow strip on both sides. It is a better use of land for the developer. We have this setup in my current neighborhood. The only problems I have observed is when a careless neighbor lets their sprinklers spray on your house wall and it causes some damage. There is also the issue of landscaping interferring with your ability to maintain that wall.

batman911,
We can see where you are coming from but in reading over the deed restrictions, it says the owner of the land has the right of ingress and egress to perform maintenance. Our rep said they would have to ask permission but the restrictions does not indicate they would. We would certainly expect them to do so but... We were concerned because we would have 2 dogs that would have use of the yard and well..you can see where this could go.

Pturner
12-13-2010, 08:27 PM
Hi Maryland Girl,
Did you know that you can quote another poster in your post by just clicking on the "Quote" button at the bottom right of the post you want to quote? That will save you a lot of time, plus it sets off the quote, so it's easier to read your post. Try it, you'll love it!

P

batman911
12-14-2010, 02:43 AM
Maryland Girl,

It is the same here. You have the right to access to conduct inspection and maintenance of that exterior wall. Our deeds say you need to notify the homeowner that has use of that land of the time and duration of your access. It does not say you need their permission.

Army Guy
12-14-2010, 08:12 AM
Yes, your deed restrictions will spell it out. We own a corner/dead-end CYV and our big issue was the end of the street property. By the deed we don't own but must maintain half of it which caused some angst with our neighbor when we were landscaping. We want NO maintence, so put down rock and a few Palm trees, they well, let me just sum it up this way, there are 14 Magnolia trees alone, not to mention bushes etc just in the front and side of their CVY. So it looks really weird, but not a thing can be done since by the deed it is half and half.

Army Guy

Maryland Girl
12-14-2010, 06:16 PM
Hi Maryland Girl,
Did you know that you can quote another poster in your post by just clicking on the "Quote" button at the bottom right of the post you want to quote? That will save you a lot of time, plus it sets off the quote, so it's easier to read your post. Try it, you'll love it!

P

Pturner,
Well I'll be!!! I'm not new to using a computer but am new to messaging. Thanks a bunch for your help!!!!

:mademyday:

Maryland Girl
12-14-2010, 06:24 PM
Yes, your deed restrictions will spell it out. We own a corner/dead-end CYV and our big issue was the end of the street property. By the deed we don't own but must maintain half of it which caused some angst with our neighbor when we were landscaping. We want NO maintence, so put down rock and a few Palm trees, they well, let me just sum it up this way, there are 14 Magnolia trees alone, not to mention bushes etc just in the front and side of their CVY. So it looks really weird, but not a thing can be done since by the deed it is half and half.

Army Guy

14 Magnolia trees???????????? :22yikes:

Army Guy
12-15-2010, 07:54 AM
14 Magnolia trees???????????? :22yikes:

YES! The wife and I call it the jungle. I will bet and not trying to be funny or unreal, but in the front of their CYV, they probably have over 200 bushes, trees, shrubs, pampas grass, etc. Our Landscaper told us, that as they grow they are going to have a real mess to contend with.

Army Guy

Sporty13
03-13-2011, 05:41 PM
This set up allows each homeowner to have a larger useful side yard. Otherwise you would have a narrow strip on both sides. It is a better use of land for the developer. We have this setup in my current neighborhood. The only problems I have observed is when a careless neighbor lets their sprinklers spray on your house wall and it causes some damage. There is also the issue of landscaping interferring with your ability to maintain that wall.

batman911,
We can see where you are coming from but in reading over the deed restrictions, it says the owner of the land has the right of ingress and egress to perform maintenance. Our rep said they would have to ask permission but the restrictions does not indicate they would. We would certainly expect them to do so but... We were concerned because we would have 2 dogs that would have use of the yard and well..you can see where this could go.

We live in a Patio Villa, & our neighbor just planted a Pindo Plam, on the property line, in her back yard, by our side, when it grows bigger, it will extend over onto our property, we will not be able to mow it there, & our sprinkle will not be able to water our grass, she did not get a permit for it, says it's her property, she'll do what she wants. I called The Villages, & ask what I could do, they said I have every right to cut, what ever palm leaves come over onto our side. she also has one other plant, right on the property line, that she wants to grow very tall, I think your only allowed to grow it 4'. Has anyone else had a problem with a neighbor like this, with a Patio Villa. :spoken:

JohnN
03-13-2011, 08:46 PM
It is strange, but that's the way it works.

That way, the house on the side where your yard is, that person can come over and do maintenance, etc. though common courtesy says they should talk to you. You just can't build on that 5 feet (lanai's etc)